Official BGOL Crypto Currency Thread ★★★★★

I sold some at 21k. Waiting for another dip down to buy.
I'm not hardcore about it.
You traders got crazy heart, especially with these institutions that can eat through sell walls like it ain't shit. I just don't trust billionaires buying OTC to keep price down when they also have money to easily move markets to double, triple their OTC investments at a fraction of the cost.
 
You traders got crazy heart, especially with these institutions that can eat through sell walls like it ain't shit. I just don't trust billionaires buying OTC to keep price down when they also have money to easily move markets to double, triple their OTC investments at a fraction of the cost.
That’s why I like the stock market better and it is more lucrative if you know what you are doing.

digital currency is the future though and will be part of everyday life by 2030.

Right now it is just a matter of what alt coin the governments adopt if they don’t make their own, which was the plan the Democrats have (Pelosi and Newsome) that they keep putting in the stimulus bill.
 
That’s why I like the stock market better and it is more lucrative if you know what you are doing.

digital currency is the future though and will be part of everyday life by 2030.

Right now it is just a matter of what alt coin the governments adopt if they don’t make their own, which was the plan the Democrats have (Pelosi and Newsome) that they keep putting in the stimulus bill.
Governments and institutions ain't about to play fair. They going to stock up on the big boys until they have so much they winning as price goes up. Same way folks swore they were about to destroy government control of money is going to make the elite more powerful than they ever been in recorded history. If the average joe is going to become a millionaire, what happens to governments and billionaires. :eek: :eek:

As the game goes, they will spread it over many wallets to make it look like the game is fair. We in for wild times man.
 
You traders got crazy heart, especially with these institutions that can eat through sell walls like it ain't shit. I just don't trust billionaires buying OTC to keep price down when they also have money to easily move markets to double, triple their OTC investments at a fraction of the cost.

Well..it's all about the money WE fuckin wit ..once you focus on that...let's get it mode just kick in.i always take profit and I always keep some in..if it's really gonna blow then I'm on the ship.lets do it.

you don't know how long I been waiting on something like this.you don't know.
 
Man. Those institutional guys just proudly bought $50 million bags of BTC over 19k. We are to the point where the 'smart money' is copping at 19k and saying they bagging the fuck up. It's like these rich cats trying to get ALL the BTC. They also said ETH only institutional investing increased. These guys buying major weight OTC. Dollar about to shit the bed again in 2021. Biden wants to print even more money and crypto usually goes up when dollar goes bad.

Any regulation from Cocksucker Sam will be aimed at keeping the peasants in check in the name of KYC/AML bullshit. No way they fucking over institutional guys who will end up with billions in BTC and ETH.

Regardless, we seen no one gives a flying fuck about U.S. citizens. They just ban us and keep the game going. :smh: They did it in 2017 with ICOs. And kept it going throughout the bear. If our fucked up government tries to ban us from DEFI, the DEFI game will still blow up without us.

Institutions are just beginning to announce their purchases. Most brought under 19k. The 'smart money' is copping everything under 25k.

The reality is that most of the "rich cats" don't really understand BTC yet.

Because of this institutional investing in ETH will only increase as BTC gets more expensive.

Intuitional buying OTC is what is keeping the dumps from being as severe and the pumps to be more extreme this time around.

The dollar already is shit and it will continue well past 2021.

Printing currency (they don't use money in this system) is all that can be done to keep the game going. Stocks, gold, silver and crypto go as the dollar goes bad. But the stock, gold and silver markets are highly manipulated. That level of manipulation is not present in crypto yet but wales do their best.

The Regulations that are coming must be understood for what they are. They are simply instructions for how to play the game in the corporate U.S. system.

Crypto, by nature, is outside the corporate U.S. system.

The U.S. may well attempt to keep "their subjects" in check with KYC/AML bullshit but the real reason is so that the real value (h)olders in the system can play like the little (young) guys have been for the past five years.

Institutional investors will end up with billions in BTC and ETH but the little guy can still buy right along with them. Same market, same rules, just different volumes. Plus many institutional players do and will pay HUGE premiums. Grayscale's premiums are ridiculous...

Regardless, fill your bags!!!

Find a way to get the coins and tokens you want!!!

Blocked IP? Get a VPN.

Exchange wants KYC? Find another that will allow trading without it. DEXs don't KYC. The fees can be pricey so acquisitions and dispositions must be managed carefully.

If you consider yourself a U.S. citizen subject, play by the rules. If you consider yourself free, act accordingly.

The game will keep going.

A ban on DEFI is contradictory. Who is the ban going to apply to? How well can it be enforced?

I know, the U.S. government is oh so good at keeping drugs, prostitution, underage drinking, work off the books regulated so I'm sure they'll do a bang up job regulating an industry and asset class that sprung up right in front of them that is changing the rules of how value is stored, transferred and managed by the second across the entire globe.

Bottom line is don't allow yourself to be shut out. Manage risks. Always take profit in bitcoin.

As always, DYOR.
 
IRS is ‘setting the trap’ for bitcoin and virtual currency investors on 2020 tax form

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is making it harder for taxpayers to conceal cryptocurrency transactions — whether intentionally or not — by adding a new question about it near the top of the new Form 1040.

The form released last week asks: “At any time during 2020, did you receive, sell, send, exchange, or otherwise acquire any financial interest in any virtual currency?” The only option is to mark yes or no.

If you answer inaccurately, you could find yourself in hot water with Uncle Sam who is rooting out tax evaders, tax professionals warned.
“When you sign the form, it’s under the penalty of perjury,”
said Ryan Losi, a certified public accountant and executive vice president of PIASCIK, a tax firm. “The IRS is just gathering the data, changing the forms to expressly say you did or didn’t, and setting the trap, so in the coming years, the hammer can come down.”

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‘The IRS is making it clear...’
Since 2014, the agency considers virtual currencies as a capital asset that must be treated as a property when it comes to taxes. Similar to stocks or bonds, any gains or losses from the sale or exchange of cryptocurrency is taxed as a capital gain or loss. Any income generated from mining bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies is also taxable.
But the IRS has been investigating for years to determine how many crypto investors have been under-reporting their holdings.
In 2018, Coinbase — the largest custodian of virtual currencies — was forced to disclose information on 13,000 user accounts under an IRS summons. The agency also sued to force Bitstamp to release more information on a taxpayer who had requested a $15,475 tax refund in an amended return.
The IRS included the same question on the 2019 tax return, but it was placed on top of Schedule 1, used to report certain additional income or adjustments to income, according to Lewis Taub, a certified public accountant and director of tax services at Berkowitz Pollack Brant Advisors + CPAs. The problem was that not many people file Schedule 1 with their return, he said, so the agency moved it to the first page of the tax return.

“In my view, the IRS is treating omitted virtual currency transactions in the same manner it pursues foreign bank accounts of U.S. taxpayers,” Taub said. “By asking the question on the top of the first page of the return, the IRS is making it clear that any income from gains or losses from virtual currency must be reported on the return.”
The instructions that go with the Form 1040 explain how and when you must report your virtual currency holdings and transactions.
But cryptocurrency can be tricky, Losi said, because some people use their virtual currency account as a payment account — for instance, buying a Starbucks latte with bitcoin. But if you completed that purchase using gains from your cryptocurrency investments, that would be a taxable event, Losi said.
“That would go on Schedule D of the 1040,” he said.
But simply holding virtual currency doesn’t mean you need to be taxed on it.
“If you acquire the virtual currency and haven’t spent it or exchanged it out for other currency, you don’t have a triggering event for tax purposes,” Losi said. “It’s an unrealized gain.”



The most important lines were the last ones...
"But simply holding virtual currency doesn’t mean you need to be taxed on it.
'If you acquire the virtual currency and haven’t spent it or exchanged it out for other currency, you don’t have a triggering event for tax purposes,' Losi said. 'It’s an unrealized gain.'"

UNREALIZED GAINS are not taxed.

Question is, when does one actually realize a gain?

If I trade BTC for ETH is that a realized gain in U.S. dollars? The nature of the transaction says it is not. It most closely resembles a like kind exchange. I traded one digital asset for an equivalent amount of another digital asset with no U.S. dollar gain, profit or income derived.

When one understands what "income" is with regard to the federal excise tax on income life gets a lot simpler and a whole lot harder.

Enjoy and DYOR.
 
The most important lines were the last ones...
"But simply holding virtual currency doesn’t mean you need to be taxed on it.
'If you acquire the virtual currency and haven’t spent it or exchanged it out for other currency, you don’t have a triggering event for tax purposes,' Losi said. 'It’s an unrealized gain.'"

UNREALIZED GAINS are not taxed.

Question is, when does one actually realize a gain?

If I trade BTC for ETH is that a realized gain in U.S. dollars? The nature of the transaction says it is not. It most closely resembles a like kind exchange. I traded one digital asset for an equivalent amount of another digital asset with no U.S. dollar gain, profit or income derived.

When one understands what "income" is with regard to the federal excise tax on income life gets a lot simpler and a whole lot harder.

Enjoy and DYOR.

The form released last week asks: “At any time during 2020, did you receive, sell, send, exchange, or otherwise acquire any financial interest in any virtual currency?

But you will have to answer yes to that question if someone sent you even 1 penny worth of Virtual currency. Btw: What does the government consider as virtual currency?

Virtual currency, or virtual money, is a type of unregulated digital currency, which is issued and usually controlled by its developers and used and accepted among the members of a specific virtual community. In 2014, the European Banking Authoritydefined virtual currency as "a digital representation of value that is neither issued by a central bank or a public authority, nor necessarily attached to a fiat currency, but is accepted by natural or legal personsas a means of payment and can be transferred, stored or traded electronically". By contrast, a digital currency that is issued by a central bank is defined as "central bank digital currency".

Is Chick-fil-A dollars considered virtual currency?
 
The most important lines were the last ones...
"But simply holding virtual currency doesn’t mean you need to be taxed on it.
'If you acquire the virtual currency and haven’t spent it or exchanged it out for other currency, you don’t have a triggering event for tax purposes,' Losi said. 'It’s an unrealized gain.'"

UNREALIZED GAINS are not taxed.

Question is, when does one actually realize a gain?

If I trade BTC for ETH is that a realized gain in U.S. dollars? The nature of the transaction says it is not. It most closely resembles a like kind exchange. I traded one digital asset for an equivalent amount of another digital asset with no U.S. dollar gain, profit or income derived.

When one understands what "income" is with regard to the federal excise tax on income life gets a lot simpler and a whole lot harder.

Enjoy and DYOR.

Exactly the irs is just throwing shit at walls..

They want tax every fucking trade..

They see folks making sweet money flipping the volatility

Coins that fluctuate

A lot..

I know dudes that was making big fucking money..

Fifty geez a week was common

There whole game went to shit when they got that irs audit letter.
.these irs cock suckers

Saw all the money folks were making trading and they want a piece of every trade..

Its like they taxed you already on your income

So you take the money youve been taxed on already..

Make some money and they want to tax the same money again ..just because you profit off it

The are still taxing the same money twice

Thats double taxation

We got laws against that shit you know.

We need to ban together tell the irs fuck you

Hands off our crypto.

And start pushing for a civilian team of super accountants to

AUDIT THE IRS...

And publically release the findings

You will find that ALL every single penny..

Goes to the govt their lapdogs and the rest goes to

ENGLAND...da fuck??

We need to stand up and stop acting like lil scary bitches everytime the IRS

Flexs their lil canary feathers..

Lots of millionaires are saying fuck the irs and giving up their citizenship..

We need to stop the stupid division..

Wake up and take our country back

From the English oligarchs..

Not our English brethren..they getting fucked

Over by the English oligarchs as well..
 
The Treasury dept now going after crypto wallets in exchanges

Y'all seen this shit

US Treasury Unveils Stifling Crypto Wallet Regulation — Experts Break Down the Rules
 
The Treasury dept now going after crypto wallets in exchanges

Y'all seen this shit

US Treasury Unveils Stifling Crypto Wallet Regulation — Experts Break Down the Rules


I don't think it's the exchanges that do kyc..it's exchanges and wallets that don't.like coinomi,trust wallet,etc.they wanna track and link every transaction to a real person or
Institution.
 
I don't think it's the exchanges that do kyc..it's exchanges and wallets that don't.like coinomi,trust wallet,etc.they wanna track and link every transaction to a real person or
Institution.

Oh no doubt they want exchanges to be snitches...


The fuckin idiots thought they had the crypto thingy solved when they found out how to track

Bitcoin transactions

Then about four months ago somebody said. Hey irs..you cake ass faggots

What about mine to..

Irs was like mo whaaa. ??

Just a few weeks ago they offered almost a million

To anyone that could help them track monero transactions

Its just starting to hit the gluttonous idiots

They are way behind in this crypto game...

Lol

Thats why they coming out with all these knee jerky rules.

Which is way to general and shows they are clueless about crypto...

I never thought about giving up my citizenship

But they sure making that notion seem rosier and rosier..

Too many more tropical pleasant crypto friendly options out there
 
Oh no doubt they want exchanges to be snitches...


The fuckin idiots thought they had the crypto thingy solved when they found out how to track

Bitcoin transactions

Then about four months ago somebody said. Hey irs..you cake ass faggots

What about mine to..

Irs was like mo whaaa. ??

Just a few weeks ago they offered almost a million

To anyone that could help them track monero transactions

Its just starting to hit the gluttonous idiots

They are way behind in this crypto game...

Lol

Thats why they coming out with all these knee jerky rules.

Which is way to general and shows they are clueless about crypto...

I never thought about giving up my citizenship

But they sure making that notion seem rosier and rosier..

Too many more tropical pleasant crypto friendly options out there


What made me flip about u.s citizenship is the exit tax to renounce it.

From google..

The Exit Tax is computed as if you sold all your assets on the day before you expatriated, and had to report the gain. Currently, net capital gains can be taxed as high as 23.8%, including the net investment income tax.Feb 27, 2017

Gotta pay your way out ...
 
What made me flip about u.s citizenship is the exit tax to renounce it.

From google..

The Exit Tax is computed as if you sold all your assets on the day before you expatriated, and had to report the gain. Currently, net capital gains can be taxed as high as 23.8%, including the net investment income tax.Feb 27, 2017

Gotta pay your way out ...

Aka freedom tax..

Didn't slaves have to pay for their freedom to?

Bitch ass troglydyte ni666as

But the good news is still money to be made out there..

I just wish we had a more private venue.

So much I want to discuss

But too many agents lurking...

Too many ways to make money

I just hope a lot of the good people out there
Get their children on blockchain technology..

It's going be just as much a part of our future..just like these internets are
 
But you will have to answer yes to that question if someone sent you even 1 penny worth of Virtual currency. Btw: What does the government consider as virtual currency?

Virtual currency, or virtual money, is a type of unregulated digital currency, which is issued and usually controlled by its developers and used and accepted among the members of a specific virtual community. In 2014, the European Banking Authoritydefined virtual currency as "a digital representation of value that is neither issued by a central bank or a public authority, nor necessarily attached to a fiat currency, but is accepted by natural or legal personsas a means of payment and can be transferred, stored or traded electronically". By contrast, a digital currency that is issued by a central bank is defined as "central bank digital currency".

Is Chick-fil-A dollars considered virtual currency?

So what if you have to answer yes?

Everybody that brought $10 worth of bitcoin when it dropped to $3.7k last March and are now looking at $60 in their cash app essentially has to answer "YES". So what?

If you traded fiat for crypto through any U.S. based company the paper trail is out there to be found. So what?

Answer the question "YES" and if you sold for fiat, report the REALIZED FIAT gains or losses.

Despite having to answer the question "YES" the reporting of "REALIZED GAINS/LOSSES" is all that is required to complete the tax return accurately. The one signing the form is responsible for reporting the "REALIZED GAINS/LOSSES" not the entity you transact through. If you exceed the reporting threshold the company you deal with will send you an information return reporting the gross amount of distribution.

This is not one's REALIZED GAIN/LOSS! YOU HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT FROM YOUR RECORDS!

Someone sent you 1 penny worth of crypto currency? Check the box.

You still hold the 1 penny's worth of crypto? report no gains and keep it moving even if it is worth $1M now. You still hold it so no gain has been realized. It can go back to a penny tomorrow. According to the SCoTUS, the appreciation of the asset is not taxable despite the fact that IRS "instructions" will tell you otherwise... (discussion for another time. But for those interested read Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920)).

With regard to the question "What does the government consider as virtual currency?" It depends on which government one is referring to, one of the several States, U.S. Federal, some other country? According to Global Legal Insights, there is no "uniform definition of 'cryptocurrency" so the answer is jurisdiction specific.

However, it has already been deemed that corporate sponsored gift cards and reward systems are not "virtual currencies" so Chick-fil-A dollars are not considered virtual currencies.

In summary, check the box "YES" if it applies to your situation. If one acquired crypto by the exchange of fiat through a U.S. based entity that you had to provide some type of ID verification, answer yes and keep it moving. If you exchanged said crypto for fiat through an entity that has your ID, determine if you realized a gain or not by subtracting the fiat value of the coin when acquired and the trading expenses associated with the acquisition and disposition from the value fiat received when sold and report accordingly.

Answering "YES" to the crypto question on the 1040 does not require disclosure of one's entire crypto portfolio.

As always, DYOR.
 
Exactly the irs is just throwing shit at walls..

They want tax every fucking trade..

They see folks making sweet money flipping the volatility

Coins that fluctuate

A lot..

I know dudes that was making big fucking money..

Fifty geez a week was common

There whole game went to shit when they got that irs audit letter.
.these irs cock suckers

Saw all the money folks were making trading and they want a piece of every trade..

Its like they taxed you already on your income

So you take the money youve been taxed on already..

Make some money and they want to tax the same money again ..just because you profit off it

The are still taxing the same money twice

Thats double taxation

We got laws against that shit you know.

We need to ban together tell the irs fuck you

Hands off our crypto.

And start pushing for a civilian team of super accountants to

AUDIT THE IRS...

And publically release the findings

You will find that ALL every single penny..

Goes to the govt their lapdogs and the rest goes to

ENGLAND...da fuck??

We need to stand up and stop acting like lil scary bitches everytime the IRS

Flexs their lil canary feathers..

Lots of millionaires are saying fuck the irs and giving up their citizenship..

We need to stop the stupid division..

Wake up and take our country back

From the English oligarchs..

Not our English brethren..they getting fucked

Over by the English oligarchs as well..
Hold the Fuck up, Bro ! You're starting to make toooo much sense !!!!
 
Breaking News for Ledger Hardware Wallet Users

People are receiving Extortion emails and text messages demanding money with their home address posted in the threat.


The best advice I can give you is when you order your ledger please use a Google voice number, dummy E-mail and some type of PO Box or mail center address.

Ledger's eCommerce site was hacked in July of 2020, causing 270,000 customer emails and delivery addresses to be stolen by hackers. FUNDS ARE SAFE. NO cryptocurrency / private keys were leaked. Today this information was released to the public, causing a massive amount of fear, anger, and frustration. What's worse is that there are email scams right now capitalizing on this fear - so here are some pointers to stay SAFE.




 
Aka freedom tax..

Didn't slaves have to pay for their freedom to?

Bitch ass troglydyte ni666as

But the good news is still money to be made out there..

I just wish we had a more private venue.

So much I want to discuss

But too many agents lurking...

Too many ways to make money

I just hope a lot of the good people out there
Get their children on blockchain technology..

It's going be just as much a part of our future..just like these internets are
It's crazy that we talked about this shit about 3 years ago. I remember saying these governments would try to do KYC/AML for wallets and decentralized exchanges. This is them sticking the tip in. :smh:

Another thing that will come down the line. They will require us to hand over our private keys. We all know the 'not your keys, not your coins' saying. How long will these government ghouls tolerate an asset that they can't confiscate? Picture this shit. They can't take this shit and it's poised to be worth trillions. They can take gold, stocks, real estate, wages, etc, but can't seize crypto without private keys.

So at first, they getting us to disclose we own the shit even if we don't owe taxes. Next, the :D "anti-terroism freedom pie act of 2024" will demand we turn over our private keys to a government-endorsed entity. These keys will be held in safe keeping and insured. Similar to how our funds are insured in the bank.

If you run afoul of the U.S. OR they feel like doing it, they will get a court order to remove the crypto from that wallet and into their wallet until the case/claim is resolved. Currently, without private keys, they can't seize anything by force.

Crypto is going to show everyone that freedom is a lie. U.S. made it illegal to own gold before, so be prepared. Not disclosing private keys to bitch ass Sam will be punishable by 5 years and/or 250k fine. :smh:
 
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The Treasury dept now going after crypto wallets in exchanges

Y'all seen this shit

US Treasury Unveils Stifling Crypto Wallet Regulation — Experts Break Down the Rules
This corporation is BROKE so they are legalizing everything and want to tax everything to pay down the debt owed to the banking cartels.

it’s coming time for the bill to be due so that is why you see all the artificial inflation of the stock market (commercial banks are buying equities) and when the contraction comes it’ll take a decade to recover.

brothas better learn all they can about “interest rates” if they want to survive. That is the only way these Neanderthals are because of the low interest loans due to damn near 0 interest rates which is what should’ve been the case for educational loans :smh:
 
It's crazy that we talked about this shit about 3 years ago. I remember saying these governments would try to do KYC/AML for wallets and decentralized exchanges. This is them sticking the tip in. :smh:

Another thing that will come down the line. They will require us to hand over our private keys. We all know the 'not your keys, not your coins' saying. How long will these government ghouls tolerate an asset that they can't confiscate? Picture this shit. They can't take this shit and it's poised to be worth trillions. They can take gold, stocks, real estate, wages, etc, but can't seize crypto without private keys.

So at first, they getting us to disclose we own the shit even if we don't owe taxes. Next, the :D "anti-terroism freedom pie act of 2024" will demand we turn over our private keys to a government-endorsed entity. These keys will be held in safe keeping and insured. Similar to how our funds are insured in the bank.

If you run afoul of the U.S. OR they feel like doing it, they will get a court order to remove the crypto from that wallet and into their wallet until the case/claim is resolved. Currently, without private keys, they can't seize anything by force.

Crypto is going to show everyone that freedom is a lie. U.S. made it illegal to own gold before, so be prepared. Not disclosing private keys to bitch ass Sam will be punishable by 5 years and/or 250k fine. :smh:
The only cryptocurrency that is totally “off the books” is monero. They have already gotten to the rest and can find out who owns what. too much tracking and surveillance and blockchain being secure doesn’t mean it is anonymous...but with the scenario I gave before with the rich transferring wealth through commodities, land, artifacts etc., they still can through crypto. You can’t tax what isn’t realized and that’s what they’re trying to figure out how to do now.
 
This corporation is BROKE so they are legalizing everything and want to tax everything to pay down the debt owed to the banking cartels.

it’s coming time for the bill to be due so that is why you see all the artificial inflation of the stock market (commercial banks are buying equities) and when the contraction comes it’ll take a decade to recover.

brothas better learn all they can about “interest rates” if they want to survive. That is the only way these Neanderthals are because of the low interest loans due to damn near 0 interest rates which is what should’ve been the case for educational loans :smh:

damn shame so many citizens are brain washed to think

a united states corporation must exist or its the end of the universe.

Americans and citizen of America aint going anywhere
 
The only cryptocurrency that is totally “off the books” is monero. They have already gotten to the rest and can find out who owns what. too much tracking and surveillance and blockchain being secure doesn’t mean it is anonymous...but with the scenario I gave before with the rich transferring wealth through commodities, land, artifacts etc., they still can through crypto. You can’t tax what isn’t realized and that’s what they’re trying to figure out how to do now.
The elite will be fine. They the ones control the politicians that are creating all the rules to limit joe sixpack from winning. The puppets will create plenty of loopholes for the billionaires holding crypto.

U.S. just on acting a fool. SEC about to sue Ripple over XRP.
 
They should have left the states years ago



Yep.
I got my spark token snapshot and got out.
XRP got themselves into this. They played it too close and are now paying for it. If they overcome this lawsuit I may buy in the .30 cent range and dump again around the 60s. Wash and repeat.
 
Yep.
I got my spark token snapshot and got out.
XRP got themselves into this. They played it too close and are now paying for it. If they overcome this lawsuit I may buy in the .30 cent range and dump again around the 60s. Wash and repeat.
I think xrp will hit $10
 
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