20 years ago today, Lil Romeo released his album “Game Time” under No Limit Records. It sold 93,000 physical copies first week
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impressive numbers provided P didnt buy them
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93k was not good numbers pre-streaming. That was considered a flop.
Bullshit, it takes 1500 streams to equal one sale. 93000 x 1500 = 139.5 million streams in a week to hit this number.
93k first week? That’s far from a flop. Homie probably went gold after a few months
Back then he made bank with those numbers especially being a kid rapper.
So, that's nothing to sneeze at.
Ain't no kid rapper or grown man can make those numbers in their first week.
Niggas get 93k views and swear they famous or making money but still broke AF trying to sell their album.
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93k would be good numbers today but in 2002 that was a flop by industry standards especially as a follow up to a more successful debut album.
This album never even went gold.
Here is Guerilla Black explaining a little bit.
Actually, it's not that good today because of streaming. Lil Baby was doing 90000 a week 10 years ago and he was a hit. Now he's doing 200,000k his first week. Those are streaming numbers. Who's doing 135 million streams first week? Beyonce, Adele and Rhi Rhi maybe.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
People basing their standard on views ands streams and it should be the other way around.
93k is a flop. Don't let these inflated numbers you hear in today's context fool you. The reason why streams and views sound like huge numbers to you now is because you're comparing them to the numbers of old.
Shouldn't that tell you something?
93k was def a flop back then
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The top ten selling albums of 2002 (01/01/2002-12/29/2002) were:
- Eminem Show / Eminem 7,607,925.
- Nellyville / Nelly 4,916,073.
- Let Go / Avril Lavigne 4,121,396.
- Home / Dixie Chicks 3,690,413.
- Soundtrack / 8 Mile 3,498,497.
- Missundaztood / Pink 3,144,947.
- Ashanti / Ashanti 3,099,216.
- Drive / Alan Jackson 3,054,736.
- 9. Up!/ Shania Twain 2,909,499
10. Soundtrack/O Brother Where Art Thou? 2,736,049
Ashanti album sold 503,000 copies the first week just for some prospective on how much physical music was selling back in the day.
Crazy part I think I had the physical copies of 6 of these albums.
FACTZ
Going Gold the first week is not the norm. Ashanti was one of the top female R&B artist at that time. Romeo wasn’t top anything. Perspective matters. 93k is a flop for a top artist, but for a pre-teen rapper, how much were y’all expecting him to sell. His first album did 99k first week and eventually went Gold. Follow up album did 93k. For his scope of the Rap genre, he did well.
Also, Master P had that crazy distribution deal. So selling 300k on No Limit Records would put solid money in your pocket, especially if the CEO is your pops
You seem to have shit backwards.
93k in the first week is horrible , local rappers were doing those numbers. Your first 3-4 weeks of sales are your strongest and then they sharply drop off. Projections would have him short of going gold which was not good when all you had were physical albums to go on. for a pop artist like Romeo this is terrible, for somebody selling independent this is great.
To be fair?
The no limit tank in 2002 was NOT at its peak
The no limit tank in 2002 was NOT at its peak
Bullshit, Lil Romeo was #2 on the Bill Board 200 with that release.
Billboard is based off radio play, you know how many songs were popular on radio and didn’t sell shit? Even today. Radio play can be manipulated by payola aka Master P paying for plays. That shit didn’t help him.
So Jay Z, Beyonce, Kanye, R Kelly, and every other artist flopped in 2002?
No I'm not saying that stop that bro
You know me.
I'm taking the extreme to just illustrate how much the music industry is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NOW.
This generation cannot understand the numbers back then at all.
But speaking specifically on Romeo...
Because of the label, his dad, the industry at the time, bring independent the youth Market 106 and park radio, video etc etc...
I could understand that his debut album first week numbers were not insane
Bot damn near 100k first week PHYSICAL? has never been will never be a flop
But disappointing under performing? Yeah I could see it all things considered.
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I don't if the op did this to diss Romeo
If he did? This was the worst way to do it.
That young men did his numbers in a very difficult highly competitive market
Independent
When his label was going through a huge readjustment.
No limit only released THREE projects that year.
And it came with a DVD
And it came with a DVD
Good ole days
Nope, not at all. It was about 3-5 years past it's prime at this point.
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So 93k first week in 2002 isn't a flop?
NOPE
It’s a flop depending on label projections. If Eminem or Jay Z sold 93k first week it’s a flop. Priority records needs to recoup all those distribution and marketing costs. They pushed Romeo hard.
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established artist like Nas and Snoop push 150k their first week. And are in Top 10 list for first week sales, but Romeo pushing 93k is a flop
The Biggest Hip Hop Album First Week Sales of 2002
Beats, Rhymes & Lists
From Xzibit to Nas, Missy Elliott to Ja Rule, Jay-Z to Eminem, we take a look at the biggest hip hop first week sales of 2002.
10. Man vs. Machine by Xzibit
Released: October 1, 2002
Label: Open Bar, Loud, Columbia Records
First week album sales: 156,000
Billboard 200 position: 3
Singles: “Multiply”, “Choke Me, Spank Me (Pull My Hair)”, “My Name”, “Symphony in X Major”
9. Paid tha Cost to Be da Boss by Snoop Dogg
Released: November 26, 2002
Label: Doggystyle, Priority, Capitol
First week album sales: 174,000
Billboard 200 position: 12
Singles: “From tha Chuuuch to da Palace”, “Beautiful”
8. God’s Son by Nas
Released: December 13, 2002
Label: Ill Will, Columbia
First week album sales: 156,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “Made You Look”, “I Can”, “Get Down”
7. The Last Temptation by Ja Rule
Released: November 19, 2002
Label: Murder Inc., Def Jam
First week album sales: 237,000
Billboard 200 position: 4
Singles: “Thug Lovin’”, “Mesmerize”, “Murder Reigns”
6. Under Construction by Missy Elliott
Released: November 12, 2002
Label: The Goldmind, Elektra
First week album sales: 359,000
Billboard 200 position: 3
Singles: “Work It”, “Gossip Folks”, “Back in the Day”
5. Better Dayz by 2Pac
Released: November 26, 2002
Label: Amaru, Tha Row, Interscope
First week album sales: 366,000
Billboard 200 position: 5
Singles: “Thugz Mansion”, “Still Ballin”
4. The Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse by Jay-Z
Released: November 12, 2002
Label: Roc-A-Fella, Def Jam, IDJMG
First week album sales: 545,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “’03 Bonnie & Clyde”, “Hovi Baby”, “Excuse Me Miss”
3. 8 Mile OST by Various Artists
Released: October 29, 2002
Label: Shady, Interscope
First week album sales: 702,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “Lose Yourself”, “Rap Name”, “Wanksta”, “8 Mile”
2. Nellyville by Nelly
Released: June 25, 2002
Label: Fo’ Reel, Universal
First week album sales: 715,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “Hot in Herre”, “Dilemma”, “Air Force Ones”, “Work It”, “Pimp Juice”
1. The Eminem Show by Eminem
Released: May 26, 2002
Label: Shady Records, Aftermath Entertainment, Interscope, Goliath
First week album sales: 1,322,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “Without Me”, “Cleanin’ Out My Closet”, “Superman”, “Sing for the Moment”, “Business”
150k and up first week was good numbera back thwm
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established artist like Nas and Snoop push 150k their first week. And are in Top 10 list for first week sales, but Romeo pushing 93k is a flop
The Biggest Hip Hop Album First Week Sales of 2002
Beats, Rhymes & Lists
From Xzibit to Nas, Missy Elliott to Ja Rule, Jay-Z to Eminem, we take a look at the biggest hip hop first week sales of 2002.
10. Man vs. Machine by Xzibit
Released: October 1, 2002
Label: Open Bar, Loud, Columbia Records
First week album sales: 156,000
Billboard 200 position: 3
Singles: “Multiply”, “Choke Me, Spank Me (Pull My Hair)”, “My Name”, “Symphony in X Major”
9. Paid tha Cost to Be da Boss by Snoop Dogg
Released: November 26, 2002
Label: Doggystyle, Priority, Capitol
First week album sales: 174,000
Billboard 200 position: 12
Singles: “From tha Chuuuch to da Palace”, “Beautiful”
8. God’s Son by Nas
Released: December 13, 2002
Label: Ill Will, Columbia
First week album sales: 156,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “Made You Look”, “I Can”, “Get Down”
7. The Last Temptation by Ja Rule
Released: November 19, 2002
Label: Murder Inc., Def Jam
First week album sales: 237,000
Billboard 200 position: 4
Singles: “Thug Lovin’”, “Mesmerize”, “Murder Reigns”
6. Under Construction by Missy Elliott
Released: November 12, 2002
Label: The Goldmind, Elektra
First week album sales: 359,000
Billboard 200 position: 3
Singles: “Work It”, “Gossip Folks”, “Back in the Day”
5. Better Dayz by 2Pac
Released: November 26, 2002
Label: Amaru, Tha Row, Interscope
First week album sales: 366,000
Billboard 200 position: 5
Singles: “Thugz Mansion”, “Still Ballin”
4. The Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse by Jay-Z
Released: November 12, 2002
Label: Roc-A-Fella, Def Jam, IDJMG
First week album sales: 545,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “’03 Bonnie & Clyde”, “Hovi Baby”, “Excuse Me Miss”
3. 8 Mile OST by Various Artists
Released: October 29, 2002
Label: Shady, Interscope
First week album sales: 702,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “Lose Yourself”, “Rap Name”, “Wanksta”, “8 Mile”
2. Nellyville by Nelly
Released: June 25, 2002
Label: Fo’ Reel, Universal
First week album sales: 715,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “Hot in Herre”, “Dilemma”, “Air Force Ones”, “Work It”, “Pimp Juice”
1. The Eminem Show by Eminem
Released: May 26, 2002
Label: Shady Records, Aftermath Entertainment, Interscope, Goliath
First week album sales: 1,322,000
Billboard 200 position: 1
Singles: “Without Me”, “Cleanin’ Out My Closet”, “Superman”, “Sing for the Moment”, “Business”
Romeo was in the ring tone/start of internet fame era. He was number 1 on 106 & park for weeks, his father was spending on endless promotion.
93k does not live up to all that
Although established, this was very much a low point considering their previous success. These were without a doubt disappointing numbers as such Romeo's numbers.