Facebook is already banned in China. Just to do business in China, American companies have to conform to all of their rules and share their intellectual property.
Biden has signed the bill requiring TikTok to be sold / US lawmakers have told Apple and Google to be ready to remove TikTok Jan 19
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Lot of people can't see the trees for the forest if this becomes law
Smh
Smh
Such as.......?
My issue is, even if they do "sell," will they turn over ALL of the data they've collected the past 6 years?
If so, a lot of people are fucked!!
But just reviewing the ToS again...... they have access to all the file names/ types from any device you use to log into TT.......
So if a kid uses their parents computer/ tablet/phone/connect to a "smart car" while logged in........
China has that data...... and then now a US company/companies will have it...... lawd
Your data is valuable and may cost you more without you knowing
nypost.com
Your car is secretly spying on you and driving your insurance rates through the roof: report
Drivers of cars manufactured by General Motors, Ford, Honda and other popular brands say that their insurance rates went up after the companies sent data about their driving behavior to issuers without their knowledge.
Kenn Dahl, 65, is a Seattle-area businessman who told The New York Times that his car insurance costs soared by 21% in 2022 after GM’s OnStar Smart Driver computerized system installed in his Chevy Bolt collected information about the particulars of his driving habits.
Dahl said that his insurance agent told him the price increase was based on data collected by LexisNexis, which compiled a report tracking each and every time he and his wife drove their Chevy Bolt over a six-month period.
According to Dahl, the 258-page report contained information about the start and end times of his trips, distance driven and other data detailing possible instances of speeding, hard braking and sharp accelerations.
The report contained information about one particular trip in June which lasted 18 minutes and spanned 7.33 miles
During that same trip, the LexisNexis report recorded two instances of rapid acceleration and two incidents of hard braking.
The LexisNexis report indicated that the details it had cobbled together were gleaned from the OnStar Smart Driver, the GM-owned subscription service that records driver information such as total miles driven, hard braking incident and other aspects of driver behavior.
According to its web site, OnStar Smart Driver “provides driving insights on how you can become a smarter, safer driver” while enabling users to “earn badges by completing challenges, build on streaks specific to different driving habits and view all your data in an intuitive dashboard.”
“It felt like a betrayal,” Dahl said. “They’re taking information that I didn’t realize was going to be shared and screwing with our insurance.”
It’s not just electric vehicle owners who are complaining.
A Cadillac driver based in Palm Beach County, Fla., told the Times that he is considering a lawsuit against GM after he was denied car insurance by seven different companies in December.
He said he is planning to sell his Cadillac and that he will never buy another GM-made car again.
The decision was based on a LexisNexis report which detailed six months of his driving behavior, including numerous instances of hard braking, hard accelerating and speeding.
“I don’t know the definition of hard brake. My passenger’s head isn’t hitting the dash,” the unnamed Cadillac driver, who like Dahl was enrolled in the OnStar Smart Driver subscription service, told the Times.
Same with acceleration. I’m not peeling out. I’m not sure how the car defines that. I don’t feel I’m driving aggressively or dangerously.”
GM, whose portfolio of brands includes Chevy, GMC, Cadillac and Buick, isn’t the only car company that is gathering data through internet connectivity and then providing it to insurance companies.
Subaru, Mitsubishi, Honda, Kia and Hyundai also offer drivers the option of turning on similar features without them being aware that the data is being sold to brokers similar to LexisNexis
Your car is secretly spying on you and driving your insurance rates through the roof: report
Drivers of cars manufactured by GM, Ford, and others say that their insurance rates went up after the companies sent data about their driving behavior to issuers without their knowledge.
nypost.com
Your car is secretly spying on you and driving your insurance rates through the roof: report
Drivers of cars manufactured by General Motors, Ford, Honda and other popular brands say that their insurance rates went up after the companies sent data about their driving behavior to issuers without their knowledge.
Kenn Dahl, 65, is a Seattle-area businessman who told The New York Times that his car insurance costs soared by 21% in 2022 after GM’s OnStar Smart Driver computerized system installed in his Chevy Bolt collected information about the particulars of his driving habits.
Dahl said that his insurance agent told him the price increase was based on data collected by LexisNexis, which compiled a report tracking each and every time he and his wife drove their Chevy Bolt over a six-month period.
According to Dahl, the 258-page report contained information about the start and end times of his trips, distance driven and other data detailing possible instances of speeding, hard braking and sharp accelerations.
The report contained information about one particular trip in June which lasted 18 minutes and spanned 7.33 miles
During that same trip, the LexisNexis report recorded two instances of rapid acceleration and two incidents of hard braking.
The LexisNexis report indicated that the details it had cobbled together were gleaned from the OnStar Smart Driver, the GM-owned subscription service that records driver information such as total miles driven, hard braking incident and other aspects of driver behavior.
According to its web site, OnStar Smart Driver “provides driving insights on how you can become a smarter, safer driver” while enabling users to “earn badges by completing challenges, build on streaks specific to different driving habits and view all your data in an intuitive dashboard.”
“It felt like a betrayal,” Dahl said. “They’re taking information that I didn’t realize was going to be shared and screwing with our insurance.”
It’s not just electric vehicle owners who are complaining.
A Cadillac driver based in Palm Beach County, Fla., told the Times that he is considering a lawsuit against GM after he was denied car insurance by seven different companies in December.
He said he is planning to sell his Cadillac and that he will never buy another GM-made car again.
The decision was based on a LexisNexis report which detailed six months of his driving behavior, including numerous instances of hard braking, hard accelerating and speeding.
“I don’t know the definition of hard brake. My passenger’s head isn’t hitting the dash,” the unnamed Cadillac driver, who like Dahl was enrolled in the OnStar Smart Driver subscription service, told the Times.
Same with acceleration. I’m not peeling out. I’m not sure how the car defines that. I don’t feel I’m driving aggressively or dangerously.”
GM, whose portfolio of brands includes Chevy, GMC, Cadillac and Buick, isn’t the only car company that is gathering data through internet connectivity and then providing it to insurance companies.
Subaru, Mitsubishi, Honda, Kia and Hyundai also offer drivers the option of turning on similar features without them being aware that the data is being sold to brokers similar to LexisNexis
I understand you there.
But where's the government to have the same energy when literally EVERY social media does the same thing.
Why stop at tik tok. Do American companies like Meta. Also NSA BEEN spying on ya.
The government ain't never gave a damn about protecting our privacy. I'm offended they trying to pull this stunt honestly.
They just mad that tik tok is eating American companies lunch and aren't subj3ct to control.
It's a great source of free information Also.
I wrote about the infiltration that the Democrat and Republican parties had during the primaries; how, they were being manipulated.
I am looking to ditch my phone, too much surveillance on them; they have become unusable.
Tik Tok sounds like Facebook.
Meta, Google, Apple do not have that level of access and invasion in their ToS......
Secondly there's no encrypted file full of that data that is accessible by the Chinese government.
If the argument is the big 4 does it so why try to stop TT, I'm not buying it. We should definitely care about TT because they're the most egregious. Let's stop them and then work on the rest. No company should be allowed to collect THAT much data
I didn't know they had access to any device regardless of log in method. . I don't use it often, but when I do it's via web browser. I wasn't comfortable downloading the app but it looks like it didn't matter anyway.
TikTok's growth rate has collapsed. 'Life' may be getting in the way for its younger users.
TikTok's user growth lagged behind Snapchat, YouTube, Instagram, and even Facebook in the final quarter of 2023.
www.businessinsider.com
Tiktoks usage is decreasing...... a lot,
"TikTok's growth stalled in the final quarter of 2023 and even went into reverse in the US."
Which is why TT now has an IG competitor in the works
You agree to the ToS and login..... they have access to file names/types.....FOR ALL files on the device! (All users, even those that did not agree to the ToS!)
Way toooooo much power...
But people here cosigning this huh lol
Anyone willing to trade their rights deserve neither.
But people here cosigning this huh lol
Anyone willing to trade their rights deserve neither.
at this point all these apps do this and unless you plan to go off grid and live in a cabin somewhere you not getting away from this....
sorry to tell you bruh but whatever device you using to get on BGOL is being tracked by someone somewhere....
You niggas applauding this got goldfish memories lolz
Maybe 3 ppl in this thread have said they are OK or support action against tiktok, but every 4th post is you moaning about it.
Two things can be true at once: Tiktok can be a national security or privacy threat AND this particular bill can be a poor way to address it.
I haven't read the bill and it's not clear it will pass the senate. Come up with a better plan and write your congressman about it.
Shut up sis.
Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless, take your weapon, strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey toward the dark side will be complete...
The Chinese people are aware that the government is blocking access. U.S. propaganda is that the government is blocking them from gaining their full American freedoms, they are hiding the truth. Now we have helped the Russians and Chinese through their psychological manipulation that access is being blocked for national security reason. It is more about their internal security than trying to propagandize us.
Going into China and saying we have all these freedoms trying to foment a revolution is much less likely.
It would be similar to the British publishing a newspaper attacking the U.S. government on purpose, hoping you would shut it down. When you do, I have taken your main selling point for starting the U.S. which is freedom of the press and freedom of speech. You could have used as a main selling point that you will have all these freedoms, but the British manipulated you into taking them away out of fear.
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Colour revolution - Wikipedia
Freedom of Speech
How are you going to sell Western style liberal demcracy to their people when you are not...
The Russian and Chinese have exposed you as a fraud that I always knew you were. They went over the top to manipulate you into doing something out of fear. Outrageous terms of service, intentionally accessing information in China which the U.S. government would have done to their data without a doubt.
Many Chinese use VPN to access Western websites...
Why You (Still) Need a VPN in China in 2024
As the great firewall of China is getting more sophisticated and less permeable, a reliable VPN connection is essential to access social networking sites and other websites and apps that China commonly blocks.
www.chinaexpatsociety.com
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I was just coming to post this. Yeah, that would make me feel MUCH more secure.
Former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is putting together an investor group to buy TikTok
Former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is building an investor group to acquire ByteDance’s TikTok, as a bipartisan piece of legislation winding its way through Congress threatens its continued existence in the U.S.
www.aol.com
You mean like they already have? Lol
I was just coming to post this. Yeah, that would make me feel MUCH more secure.
Former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is putting together an investor group to buy TikTok
Former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is building an investor group to acquire ByteDance’s TikTok, as a bipartisan piece of legislation winding its way through Congress threatens its continued existence in the U.S.
Yeah.......fuck NO!
So basically do nothing?
China doesn't have Facebook they have their own versions.
Tech hub sellouts.