Cobb County Police are using new technology called 'ShotSpotter' that can locate gunshots within seconds, without the need for 911 calls.
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This story is on mix what now? Where’s the actual story?
Why is this poster allowed here?
Why is this poster allowed here?
They've had thise in south Florida for a w couple of years.
Because he's MASTERBAKERS protege..... here to spam/flood the board
Shit has been in my city for at least eight years if not longer...... this technology is relatively old
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All it does, is allow police to know which opposite direction to go when things pop off.
Arizona had that all the time back when i was living there..it never worked 
We, Oakland CA, started with version 1 of Shot-Spotter in 1999-2000, and still have it. That shyt DOES NOT WORK. Moreover, they've started changing the marketing for it. Now, it's a tool for quickly locating gunshot victims, instead of the shooters as originally stated!!! It's all bullshyt, but their central command center here in Fremont CA is impressive. Lastly, they've been caught doing some foul shyt as well!!!
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This is ABSOLUTELY untrue!!!
Maybe its a new version or something, but this is from their official IG, 2 days ago.
Arizona had that all the time back when i was living there..it never worked
Interesting article about the system
I studied ShotSpotter in Chicago and Kansas City – here’s what people in Detroit and the more than 167 other cities and towns using this technology should know
Our research found that while ShotSpotter may have benefits for improved detection and response, it offers little benefit for enforcement and clearance and did not reduce gunshot victimization.
Since 2020, my colleagues and I have conducted the largest study on this technology, funded by a grant from the National Institute of Justice. Our study used over 15 years of data from Chicago and Kansas City, comparing ShotSpotter target areas with similar control areas not covered
Our findings were published in a technical report to NIJ and in five peer-reviewed journal articles as of July 2024. Our research has important implications for public safety, given the popularity of ShotSpotter.
More than 170 cities and towns across the United States have adopted ShotSpotter – the industry-leading gunshot detection technology system manufactured by SoundThinking – with costs ranging from US$65,000 to $90,000 per square mile per year and a one-time initiation fee of $10,000 per square mile. Detroit’s $7 million contract covers 40 square miles.
1. Faster responses to gunfire
In Kansas City, we found that ShotSpotter alerts went off 93 seconds before the first 911 call reporting the same incident on average.
This 93-second time savings shaved off nearly 12% of the overall police response, EMS response and hospital transport travel times. This means that ShotSpotter can offer an important head start and get victims to the hospital faster.
2. No increase in enforcement compared with 911 calls
Critics argue that ShotSpotter targets low-income communities of color, while supporters claim that coverage areas reflect gun violence levels.
The data from Chicago lent credence to both perspectives.
In that city, the ShotSpotter target area had about twice the nonwhite population and a poverty rate about 50% higher than the remainder of the city. Gun crime rates were as much as 1.5 times higher in the ShotSpotter target
An important question is whether ShotSpotter more often led to police enforcement, specifically against people of color. We found both ShotSpotter and citizen calls to 911 prompt arrests and stops of citizens at similar levels.
Interestingly, the relative effect of ShotSpotter and 911 calls was consistent across different racial groups in most instances, indicating that ShotSpotter does not generate additional racial disparities in enforcement beyond those already present in standard police responses to gunfire.
3. Not all calls can be confirmed
A prime selling point for ShotSpotter is the system’s ability to correctly identify gunshots, giving police a better opportunity to respond to the scene, collect evidence and apprehend shooters. But how accurate is it?
In Kansas City, we found that shots-fired incidents occurring in the ShotSpotter target area were 15% more likely than 911 calls to be classified as “unfounded,” meaning evidence of gunfire couldn’t be confirmed.area.
4. No increase in clearance rates
In Kansas City, the collection of ballistic evidence and recovery of firearms was substantially higher in the ShotSpotter target area than the controls. While we did not have ballistic evidence data in Chicago, we found that ShotSpotter similarly led to a significant increase in firearm recoveries
5. No reduction in gunshot victimization
In both Chicago and Kansas City, ShotSpotter did not reduce the occurrence of fatal shootings, nonfatal shootings or other violent felonies committed with firearms..
Dozens of cities are paying for gunshot detection tech they may not need
The Trace shares findings from a new analysis identifying cities across the country that are using ShotSpotter despite averaging fewer than one shooting a month in which someone was killed or injured.
Revenues are going through the roof. Instead of going directly to the largest crime markets, the company is targeting small towns under the auspices of Covid funding.
Dozens of cities are paying for gunshot detection tech they may not need
The Trace shares findings from a new analysis identifying cities across the country that are using ShotSpotter despite averaging fewer than one shooting a month in which someone was killed or injured.www.wsbradio.com
Revenues are going through the roof. Instead of going directly to the largest crime markets, the company is targeting small towns under the auspices of Covid funding.
Well damn
In a new analysis by The Trace, 62 cities that have installed ShotSpotter averaged fewer than one shooting per month in which someone was injured or killed over the past 10 years, according to Gun Violence Archive data. Of those 62 cities, 43 of them—including Phillipsburg—were located in states that received an "A" grade by the gun violence prevention group Giffords for their strong gun restrictions.
ShotSpotter's Mixed Track Record
ShotSpotter, which launched in Northern California in the mid-aughts, is more closely associated with big cities like Chicago, New York, and Washington, D.C. But in recent years, those cities have faced pressure to abandon the system as researchers and community activists criticize it as an ineffective technology that doesn't prevent shootings and leads to overpolicing in Black and brown communities.
Amid the backlash, SoundThinking has pursued dozens of smaller markets—like Phillipsburg—that were more receptive to the technology. But those smaller cities are far less likely to have the volume of gun violence that justifies the need for the system, which typically costs $65,000 to $90,000 for each square mile of sensors.
Chicago has moved on
abc7chicago.com
Chicago's ShotSpotter program officially expires
Chicago's ShotSpotter program is officially over.
Who makes the sensor? It is proprietary?Chicago has moved on
Chicago's ShotSpotter program officially expires
Chicago's ShotSpotter program is officially over.
Yes, check my earlier post.
they've installed the system in cities/ neighborhoods that have experienced less than 1 shooting a month for 10 years straight.
They rebranded themselves in the pandemic as a covid relief product due to the increase of people being home and agitated
This is wild
Chicago was one of the earliest cities
I'd want to remove / update anything they installed
But Chicago's problem is, they fumbled the bag on their parking meters/ lots and now don't have the money in the budget to get a new / comparable system in the neighborhoods that would be most beneficial.
Nice is a euphemism for white. The apparent market for this company is low in crime but flush in cash. That’s the definition of waning suburb in America.
Did you read you're own article?!
Dozens of cities are paying for gunshot detection tech they may not need
The Trace shares findings from a new analysis identifying cities across the country that are using ShotSpotter despite averaging fewer than one shooting a month in which someone was killed or injured.
Revenues are going through the roof. Instead of going directly to the largest crime markets, the company is targeting small towns under the auspices of Covid funding.
The main city of the article is nearly 70% white and under 14% black
And they weren't the only ones!!
Fam, come on now!!
This is a lot of "SPIN" on their part [Shot Spotter], that several major technological vetting sources hadn't verified or accredited, at least as of 2024. Additionally, there was a case, a back east criminal case where Shot Spotter was found guilty of perjury or intentionally providing false evidence by "creating gunshots where none existed. It was an officer involved shooting and a question was raised who shot first, the accused or the officer. The Shot Spotter recording(s) were brought into evidence and it was discovered that Shot Spotter attempted to "add" sound effects they testified were gunshot evidence that would tend to exonerate the officer!!! I'll try to find my notes and provide the case citation information.Interesting article about the system
I studied ShotSpotter in Chicago and Kansas City – here’s what people in Detroit and the more than 167 other cities and towns using this technology should know
Our research found that while ShotSpotter may have benefits for improved detection and response, it offers little benefit for enforcement and clearance and did not reduce gunshot victimization.www.yahoo.com
Since 2020, my colleagues and I have conducted the largest study on this technology, funded by a grant from the National Institute of Justice. Our study used over 15 years of data from Chicago and Kansas City, comparing ShotSpotter target areas with similar control areas not covered
Our findings were published in a technical report to NIJ and in five peer-reviewed journal articles as of July 2024. Our research has important implications for public safety, given the popularity of ShotSpotter.
More than 170 cities and towns across the United States have adopted ShotSpotter – the industry-leading gunshot detection technology system manufactured by SoundThinking – with costs ranging from US$65,000 to $90,000 per square mile per year and a one-time initiation fee of $10,000 per square mile. Detroit’s $7 million contract covers 40 square miles.
1. Faster responses to gunfire
In Kansas City, we found that ShotSpotter alerts went off 93 seconds before the first 911 call reporting the same incident on average.
This 93-second time savings shaved off nearly 12% of the overall police response, EMS response and hospital transport travel times. This means that ShotSpotter can offer an important head start and get victims to the hospital faster.
2. No increase in enforcement compared with 911 calls
Critics argue that ShotSpotter targets low-income communities of color, while supporters claim that coverage areas reflect gun violence levels.
The data from Chicago lent credence to both perspectives.
In that city, the ShotSpotter target area had about twice the nonwhite population and a poverty rate about 50% higher than the remainder of the city. Gun crime rates were as much as 1.5 times higher in the ShotSpotter target
An important question is whether ShotSpotter more often led to police enforcement, specifically against people of color. We found both ShotSpotter and citizen calls to 911 prompt arrests and stops of citizens at similar levels.
Interestingly, the relative effect of ShotSpotter and 911 calls was consistent across different racial groups in most instances, indicating that ShotSpotter does not generate additional racial disparities in enforcement beyond those already present in standard police responses to gunfire.
3. Not all calls can be confirmed
A prime selling point for ShotSpotter is the system’s ability to correctly identify gunshots, giving police a better opportunity to respond to the scene, collect evidence and apprehend shooters. But how accurate is it?
In Kansas City, we found that shots-fired incidents occurring in the ShotSpotter target area were 15% more likely than 911 calls to be classified as “unfounded,” meaning evidence of gunfire couldn’t be confirmed.area.
4. No increase in clearance rates
In Kansas City, the collection of ballistic evidence and recovery of firearms was substantially higher in the ShotSpotter target area than the controls. While we did not have ballistic evidence data in Chicago, we found that ShotSpotter similarly led to a significant increase in firearm recoveries
5. No reduction in gunshot victimization
In both Chicago and Kansas City, ShotSpotter did not reduce the occurrence of fatal shootings, nonfatal shootings or other violent felonies committed with firearms..
We aren’t talking to each other.
Soon that place gonna get new technology such as tablets and smart phones.. finally the millennium has kicked it up a notch in that area.. one day I hear they gonna get something called FaceTime where you can actually see the person you talking to while making phone calls George jetson move the fuck over
ShotSpotter as advertised X years ago, sounded great and for cities that desperately needed SOMETHING, it sounded like a godsend.....
but as with a lot of things the execution fell short of the expectations.
there are comparable systems now, hopefully they will prove to be more effective and live up to the needs and expectations of their customer communities.
As a child, I remember reading stories of the paranoia that engulfs tyrants like flames does oxygen. The tyrant Capitalism is no different, however, instead of the Secret Police coming to get you, you have people selling wares that have replaced entire teams of human beings that are supposed to capture you.
Imagine if you used technology to replace the characters in A Most Wanted Man.
Shotspotter was proven not to work. They had it here in NYC and all it kept doing was saying trucks and construction were gunshots.In fact it was false positives 87% of the time. I can't believe they got another city to fall for the bullshit....