Data Scientist the best Job of the future? High Paying Tech Jobs

[MYSTIC]

Peace Fam,

I'm currently taking courses on becoming a full-stack developer and I love the journey but I'm 40 years old. I already do front-end development but see it may be going away in the near future and that's the reason why I decided to move into becoming a full-stack developer (for job security mainly) but I'm really intrigued about becoming a data scientist, mainly because the world is full of data and they need people to understand all that data.

I have been on the fence about it and know it's alot of tech workers here on bgol that can give me a better framing on what the job entails.

I have been looking at two places to learn expertise. One is a boot camp named Dataquest (www.dataquest.io) and a more traditional approach at Western Governors University (Data Management/Data Analytics)

Are these essentially the same thing? One offers a degree and one doesn't and does that matter? or from my experience, it's all about your projects.

Looking for feedback.

Thanks

 

[lightbright]

Try a search of the board as well as advice... I know I remember a few threads about it .....good luck !!!


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[Moving Target]

bro dataanalytics is one of the highest jobs right now bc there is so much info out there, it cant all be sorted through. which is why AI is the most sought after holy grail of IT and intelligence at the moment. some of the govt programs are starting pay at 180 for phd data analytics. thats govt...so you know civilian pay is off the chain.
but yeah it is all about your projects and experience. how you tailor your programs to search the data and what you are looking for as in being able to sift through petabytes of data of little nuggets of pertinent info.
im around your age and have been looking at the same thing. i do know that if you get the bootcamp, you will have to have immediate exerience behind that....but having the degree will serve you better. im slightly familiar with WGU. got a friend that graduated from their online school. he got all the certs while going through too. he doing good. but ultimately its up to you. i would recommend you scan job offer and position descriptions to see what the employers want then tailor your attack plan that way.

 

[MYSTIC]

bro dataanalytics is one of the highest jobs right now bc there is so much info out there, it cant all be sorted through. which is why AI is the most sought after holy grail of IT and intelligence at the moment. some of the govt programs are starting pay at 180 for phd data analytics. thats govt...so you know civilian pay is off the chain.
but yeah it is all about your projects and experience. how you tailor your programs to search the data and what you are looking for as in being able to sift through petabytes of data of little nuggets of pertinent info.
im around your age and have been looking at the same thing. i do know that if you get the bootcamp, you will have to have immediate experience behind that....but having the degree will serve you better. im slightly familiar with WGU. got a friend that graduated from their online school. he got all the certs while going through too. he doing good. but ultimately its up to you. i would recommend you scan job offer and position descriptions to see what the employers want then tailor your attack plan that way.

Thanks Moving Target for the feedback. I'm really on the fence with this field and AWS Cloud Architect. It pays well and seems like It may have an easier entry point from the job descriptions I have been reading, but those don't consider being black either but just having that certificate increases your pay a nice amount and you can always keep gaining more certs once you get your foot in the door. With Data Analytics it seems you have to have a good grasp on I.T before entering that field and to get a B.S from WGU you atleast have to have an A.S (Which is 2 years) + perhaps another 1-2 years at WGU (Since they let you show your mastery in order to move on) With the AWS It may be a year at most (If I go hard) with learning Python and doing projects and perhaps some low-pay or probono work to provide that 1 year of experience with Amazon web services.

Anyway, my main concerns are dealing with my age and holding a position I won't get phased out in the future.

 

[MrSid]

Talk to @kayanation

 

[Llano]

Talk to @kayanation

Is he still around? He hasn't posted on here in a minute

 

[blackbull1970]

Don’t get yourself all that excited about Tech jobs.

Remember, if they can get Punjab Singh from India to do the job for $15k/year.....guess who they gonna hire?

The future of labor in America is to find a job/career that cannot be outsourced, exported or done by undocumented people.

 

[MrSid]

Is he still around? He hasn't posted on here in a minute

Lurking somewhere , no one leaves bgol.

 

[MYSTIC]

Don’t get yourself all that excited about Tech jobs.

Remember, if they can get Punjab Singh from India to do the job for $15k/year.....guess who they gonna hire?

The future of labor in America is to find a job/career that cannot be outsourced, exported or done by undocumented people.

What career line would you suggest?

 

[lightbright]

Don’t get yourself all that excited about Tech jobs.
Remember, if they can get Punjab Singh from India to do the job for $15k/year.....guess who they gonna hire?
The future of labor in America is to find a job/career that cannot be outsourced, exported or done by undocumented people.

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[Moving Target]

Thanks Moving Target for the feedback. I'm really on the fence with this field and AWS Cloud Architect. It pays well and seems like It may have an easier entry point from the job descriptions I have been reading, but those don't consider being black either but just having that certificate increases your pay a nice amount and you can always keep gaining more certs once you get your foot in the door. With Data Analytics it seems you have to have a good grasp on I.T before entering that field and to get a B.S from WGU you atleast have to have an A.S (Which is 2 years) + perhaps another 1-2 years at WGU (Since they let you show your mastery in order to move on) With the AWS It may be a year at most (If I go hard) with learning Python and doing projects and perhaps some low-pay or probono work to provide that 1 year of experience with Amazon web services.

Anyway, my main concerns are dealing with my age and holding a position I won't get phased out in the future.

bruh you and i share that concerns. i been looking at AWS since the govt has a huge project collaboration with amazon right damn now. the only drawback is my security clearance. still waiting on the folks to move their asses. then imma be good .

either way you cant go wrong. AWS or data analytics. tech is short on both right now.

 

[Moving Target]

Talk to @kayanation

brother kayanation is that dude when it come to the IT aspect.

PM him. let me know what he says and invite him to comment on the thread.

one other thing, look into hardware/ server and VR machine maintenance. thats another field that will always be employed. doesnt ay as much but stays employed. i met one of the guys who works at the google farm in ATL. he does steady work in an AC environment and doesn worry about people messing with him be makes his schedule work.

 

[furlough]

Talk to @kayanation

Is he still around? He hasn't posted on here in a minute

brother kayanation is that dude when it come to the IT aspect.

PM him. let me know what he says and invite him to comment on the thread.

one other thing, look into hardware/ server and VR machine maintenance. thats another field that will always be employed. doesnt ay as much but stays employed. i met one of the guys who works at the google farm in ATL. he does steady work in an AC environment and doesn worry about people messing with him be makes his schedule work.

@neutron, your assistance is needed please

 

[Coldchi]

Thanks Moving Target for the feedback. I'm really on the fence with this field and AWS Cloud Architect. It pays well and seems like It may have an easier entry point from the job descriptions I have been reading, but those don't consider being black either but just having that certificate increases your pay a nice amount and you can always keep gaining more certs once you get your foot in the door. With Data Analytics it seems you have to have a good grasp on I.T before entering that field and to get a B.S from WGU you atleast have to have an A.S (Which is 2 years) + perhaps another 1-2 years at WGU (Since they let you show your mastery in order to move on) With the AWS It may be a year at most (If I go hard) with learning Python and doing projects and perhaps some low-pay or probono work to provide that 1 year of experience with Amazon web services.

Anyway, my main concerns are dealing with my age and holding a position I won't get phased out in the future.

I started with AWS last summer, finished the Solutions Architect, now I'm working on AWS Developer and SysOps Admin.
Bought the Docker and Hadoop course as well. Big Data is growing and paying alot.....and so is DevOps.

 

[3rd__Optic]

 

[blackbull1970]

What career line would you suggest?

That’s the $10 Million Dollar Question.

It’s obvious that with Black folks in America, our value has gone below Zero in the labor market.

Automation is killing a large percentage of jobs today.

There is a bigger demand to hire undocumented workers from Central and South America for general labor. There is a demand to hire educated tech workers from India and the Far East. They want them cuz they work cheap.

The dude that owns Facebook has stated he wants tech workers from over there instead of investing money in apprenticeship programs right here in America.

As crazy as it sounds, it is coming to a point where Americans will actually have to relocate to foreign countries for a good paying job/career.

Your grandchildren will probably be in that situation.

It’s all part of “The Global Economy”.

 

[Cle Da YoungKingPin]

Talk to @kayanation

Yes talk to Kaya thats a good brother there man

 

[water]

@neutron, your assistance is needed please

yo Bro, thanks for the mention.


Let me write a detailed post below....

 

[water]

Top careers to get into and paths:

Fullstack developer- javascript
Path: Bootcamps like hackreactor

Data Scientist- python
Path: Udacity

Cloud: AWS (for companies that are disruptors), Azure (for very legacy type business that are more risk adverse)
Path: ACloud Guru, Linux Academy


Data Scientist
- Hands on is very important and so Udacity's program is very hands on and the curriculum is also created by the companies who hire directly from them.
- A lot of the actual machine learning algorithms are open source e.g. go to prediction.io and you will see ML models
- The challenge is incorporating these models into a relevant product in some industry e.g. churn analysis in e-commerce, similar product so practice is key
- University programs are too long because the industry is changing too fast. I have not seen a university programs that teaches Tensorflow for example
- Use Tensorflow, Keras to do some side projects
- Bookmark and read from the following:
https://www.kdnuggets.com/
https://www.kaggle.com/
Subscribe to this: https://machinelearningmastery.com/

Open to questions so ask them here so other people could benefit from the answer

Bless.

 

[Naha-Nago]

Dope thread.

*two cents*

 

[BlackGoku]

Don’t get yourself all that excited about Tech jobs.

Remember, if they can get Punjab Singh from India to do the job for $15k/year.....guess who they gonna hire?

The future of labor in America is to find a job/career that cannot be outsourced, exported or done by undocumented people.

And if THAT can't be done, then they will automate/let a robot do it..

 

[4 Dimensional]

Dope thread.

*two cents*

I have a fairly strong background in analytics, but I'm not sure if I want to take that up as a career.

Teaching seems to be more my speed, but the money is substantially higher in Data Analyitcs field.

I'm very interested, just not ready for a career change. I hear these brothers on here talking big tech game and I get motivated to do something different.

 

[water]

I have a fairly strong background in analytics, but I'm not sure if I want to take that up as a career.

Teaching seems to be more my speed, but the money is substantially higher in Data Analyitcs field.

I'm very interested, just not ready for a career change. I hear these brothers on here talking big tech game and I get motivated to do something different.

Passionate teacher?

Create a course on Udemy and let the money roll in independently of your effort.

there are courses on Udemy about how to create a Udemy course

 

[Gods_Debris]

I think AI learning bots are going to take away analytics jobs. I personally can't see this as a career goal for younger people but at 40+ I imagine you could do this until retirement without worry of that scenario.

 

[PJN]

Lurking somewhere , no one leaves bgol ALIVE.

Fixed

 

[water]

I think AI learning bots are going to take away analytics jobs. I personally can't see this as a career goal for younger people but at 40+ I imagine you could do this until retirement without worry of that scenario.

This is true.

Timeline is off though

Maybe another 2-3 yrs as the technology trickles it's way into corporate america from silicon valley

 

[Gods_Debris]

This is true.

Timeline is off though

Maybe another 2-3 yrs as the technology trickles it's way into corporate america from silicon valley

 

[water]

This recession being created will be the impetus.

 

[Gods_Debris]

M

This recession being created will be the impetus.

And that's when we'll see the real devil in the details of the Russian meddling. Fuckers probably just laying virtual landmines all over our networks to corrupt, manipulate, outright control, and destroy those AI systems and TRUMP is facilitating the shit.

 

[Louis Koo]

Don’t get yourself all that excited about Tech jobs.

Remember, if they can get Punjab Singh from India to do the job for $15k/year.....guess who they gonna hire?

The future of labor in America is to find a job/career that cannot be outsourced, exported or done by undocumented people.

cut hair?

 

[kogalee muhammad]

What career line would you suggest?

The world's oldest profession.

And even that will be replaced once we can get these Silicone sex dolls roboticised

Not even these hoes are safe from automation.

When Master Fard Muhammad returns,
These hoes are going to be fucking and sucking DAILY and will be more than happy to do it for a meal and a place to stay !

 

[kogalee muhammad]

I think AI learning bots are going to take away analytics jobs. I personally can't see this as a career goal for younger people but at 40+ I imagine you could do this until retirement without worry of that scenario.

I think you don't know what the hell you talking about. You just running yo damn mouth for effects because you have someone's hand up your ass like a puppet and making you say stupit shit.

 

[kogalee muhammad]

cut hair?

Pimp and sell your own mothers ass.

 

[Gods_Debris]

I think you don't know what the hell you talking about. You just running yo damn mouth for effects because you have someone's hand up your ass like a puppet and making you say stupit shit.

Listen up you musty smelling dog because I'm going to make you a promise right here and now: if I ever come across your bitch ass in real life I'm going to drag your mutt ass face across the concrete, peel open your skull with a plastic spoon and after I take a shit into your jugg ass neanderthal head I'm gonna put your pimply puss covered ass back in the maggot filled hole you crawled out of.