What’s the difference between Trump being in office vs when obama was in office? As far as niggaz go. I haven’t really seen any difference.
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How the Coronavirus Shattered Trump’s Serene Confidence
COVID-19 is unimpressed and unimpeded by the President’s bluster. And the prolonged process of his humbling has put untold numbers of Americans at risk.
By David Remnick
March 22, 2020
With the coronavirus, Trump cannot bend the harsh realities of the world to his fantasies.Photograph by Doug Mills / NYT / Redux
Early last week, the Trump era—which defined itself by a lurid celebration of “alternative facts,” a contempt for science, and an assault on global institutions and the “administrative state”—came to an end. Regrettably, Donald Trump remains in office, but, at least for the moment, he appears to have ceded the argument: he cannot bend the harshest realities of the world to his fantasies. The aggressive and deadly coronavirus is unimpressed and unimpeded by the bluster of a con. Yet the prolonged process of Trump’s humbling, the time it took him to recognize the power of the global pandemic that has emptied our streets, has put untold numbers of Americans at risk.
The disease now known as covid-19 was first identified three months ago, in the Chinese city of Wuhan. Much like sars, which flared eighteen years ago, the likeliest breeding ground for the new coronavirus was a live-animal market. Like sars, H.I.V., and Ebola, covid-19, scientists believe, is a zoonotic disease, one that “jumps” from mammalian animal hosts to human beings. The coronavirus that causes covid-19 soon made its way to nearly every corner and crevice of the planet.
The New Yorker’s coronavirus news coverage and analysis are free for all readers.
For many weeks, the President resisted understanding the magnitude of the problems and the responsibilities of his office. In late January, he declared, “We have it totally under control. . . . It’s going to be just fine.” A month later, he told attendees at a White House celebration of Black History Month, “One day—it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.” Was he doing a good job? He gave himself “a ten.” Those who raised concerns about the Administration’s cuts in emergency preparedness or the outrageous failure to supply testing kits were promulgating “a hoax.”
This blithe unconcern for the looming crisis was hardly limited to Trump. His satraps in the “alternative fact” industry took their cues from him to rest easy in a warm bubble bath of denialism. Rush Limbaugh, who received a Presidential Medal of Freedom at Trump’s latest State of the Union address, told his immense radio audience that the virus was “the common cold, folks.” And, by the way, “Keep in mind where the coronavirus came from. It came from a country that Bernie Sanders wants to turn the United States into a mirror image of: Communist China.” Mark Steyn, filling in for Limbaugh one day, said that a shelter-in-place order had been issued in the Bay Area because “it’s a big gay town, San Francisco, and they’re the ones with all the compromised immune systems.”
On “Fox & Friends,” Ainsley Earhardt dismissed any cautions against travel––“It’s actually the safest time to fly”––and her sidekick Pete Hegseth mentioned that he was starting to think that the Democrats were “rooting for the coronavirus to spread.” Over on Fox Business, Trish Regan accused the liberal media and Democrats of trying to manipulate the news of the coronavirus as “yet another attempt to impeach the President.”
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The Coronavirus’s Impact on Chinatown
Sean Hannity, who has the biggest ratings on cable news, invited Dr. Anthony Fauci, the most visible public-health official on the White House coronavirus task force, to appear on his show. But, in Hannity’s world, as in Trump’s, bloviation precedes fact. And so Hannity went first. “The standard flu every single year kills tens of thousands of Americans. Now, does truth matter? Does perspective matter?” Fauci, just as he does when standing beside the President, betrayed no sign of disdain, as he politely corrected the misinformation. “Sean, to make sure your viewers get an accurate idea about what goes on,” he said, covid-19 is “ten times more lethal than the seasonal flu.”
Fake news and conspiracy theories are opportunistic viruses, and for many weeks there was no end to their spread. Jerry Falwell, Jr., one of Trump’s leading evangelical supporters, repeated a theory suggested to him by a restaurant owner he knows: “You remember the North Korean leader promised ‘a Christmas present for America back in December’? Could it be they got together with China and this is that present?” Ron Paul, a former Republican Presidential candidate and a physician, wrote, “People should ask themselves whether this coronavirus ‘pandemic’ could be a big hoax, with the actual danger of the disease massively exaggerated by those who seek to profit––financially or politically––from the ensuing panic.”
During this dangerous period, a range of polls revealed that Republicans, in particular, trust Trump’s information on the virus more than that of the “lame-stream media.” A Marist College-NPR-PBS poll found that more than half of this group thought the risk was being “blown out of proportion.” The Trumpian efforts to downplay the threat to public health held fast among “the base.”
What finally shattered Trump’s serene confidence and the consensus of his followers? Fauci and other officials on the White House task force certainly began to cut through his dismissals in their briefing sessions. An analysis from epidemiologists at Imperial College London, forecasting as many as 2.2 million American fatalities and a health-care system under siege, reportedly helped advance the argument for strict social-distancing measures. And, because this is Trump World, the President listened attentively when he received a visit at Mar-a-Lago from Tucker Carlson, who broke ranks with his Fox News colleagues and urged serious action.
Trump cannot be forgiven for his preening and his belatedness. And yet this least trustworthy of Commanders-in-Chief is entrusted by the authority of his office to make a series of critical decisions. In order to “flatten the curve,” we have rightly set in motion a set of edicts that, while necessary to control the pandemic, will continue to batter the economy, create deep atomization, and cause all manner of suffering. The human need for solidarity is frustrated by the need for social distancing. An economy that seizes up entirely could, in theory, produce nearly as much suffering as the virus itself, particularly for the most vulnerable among us. A host of well-judged policy decisions must be made and executed effectively if the country is to be spared the worst. As recently as Friday, however, the President spent much of his briefing berating a reporter and further alarming the public. It is better to be lucky than good, the old saw has it. Trump is not good; we must hope that he will be lucky.
Right now, as we sit in our homes, washing our hands yet again, as we try to read the querulous expressions of our children, scientists and pharmaceutical companies are racing to develop antiviral treatments and—what will be our most valuable weapon—a vaccine. But no such deliverance is likely to arrive in this calendar year. In the meantime, another form of protection has become more urgent than ever. Misinformation and cant, along with a kindred scorn for science and professional expertise: these things are pathogens, too. Counterfeit facts can polarize, alienate, disaffect, rouse misdirected rage, and foment social division. They have long come at a cost to our civility; at a time of pandemic, especially, they also come at a cost in human lives. ♦
A Guide to the Coronavirus
COVID-19 is unimpressed and unimpeded by the President’s bluster. And the prolonged process of his humbling has put untold numbers of Americans at risk.
By David Remnick
March 22, 2020
With the coronavirus, Trump cannot bend the harsh realities of the world to his fantasies.Photograph by Doug Mills / NYT / Redux
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Early last week, the Trump era—which defined itself by a lurid celebration of “alternative facts,” a contempt for science, and an assault on global institutions and the “administrative state”—came to an end. Regrettably, Donald Trump remains in office, but, at least for the moment, he appears to have ceded the argument: he cannot bend the harshest realities of the world to his fantasies. The aggressive and deadly coronavirus is unimpressed and unimpeded by the bluster of a con. Yet the prolonged process of Trump’s humbling, the time it took him to recognize the power of the global pandemic that has emptied our streets, has put untold numbers of Americans at risk.
The disease now known as covid-19 was first identified three months ago, in the Chinese city of Wuhan. Much like sars, which flared eighteen years ago, the likeliest breeding ground for the new coronavirus was a live-animal market. Like sars, H.I.V., and Ebola, covid-19, scientists believe, is a zoonotic disease, one that “jumps” from mammalian animal hosts to human beings. The coronavirus that causes covid-19 soon made its way to nearly every corner and crevice of the planet.
The New Yorker’s coronavirus news coverage and analysis are free for all readers.
For many weeks, the President resisted understanding the magnitude of the problems and the responsibilities of his office. In late January, he declared, “We have it totally under control. . . . It’s going to be just fine.” A month later, he told attendees at a White House celebration of Black History Month, “One day—it’s like a miracle—it will disappear.” Was he doing a good job? He gave himself “a ten.” Those who raised concerns about the Administration’s cuts in emergency preparedness or the outrageous failure to supply testing kits were promulgating “a hoax.”
This blithe unconcern for the looming crisis was hardly limited to Trump. His satraps in the “alternative fact” industry took their cues from him to rest easy in a warm bubble bath of denialism. Rush Limbaugh, who received a Presidential Medal of Freedom at Trump’s latest State of the Union address, told his immense radio audience that the virus was “the common cold, folks.” And, by the way, “Keep in mind where the coronavirus came from. It came from a country that Bernie Sanders wants to turn the United States into a mirror image of: Communist China.” Mark Steyn, filling in for Limbaugh one day, said that a shelter-in-place order had been issued in the Bay Area because “it’s a big gay town, San Francisco, and they’re the ones with all the compromised immune systems.”
On “Fox & Friends,” Ainsley Earhardt dismissed any cautions against travel––“It’s actually the safest time to fly”––and her sidekick Pete Hegseth mentioned that he was starting to think that the Democrats were “rooting for the coronavirus to spread.” Over on Fox Business, Trish Regan accused the liberal media and Democrats of trying to manipulate the news of the coronavirus as “yet another attempt to impeach the President.”
VIDEO FROM THE NEW YORKER
The Coronavirus’s Impact on Chinatown
Sean Hannity, who has the biggest ratings on cable news, invited Dr. Anthony Fauci, the most visible public-health official on the White House coronavirus task force, to appear on his show. But, in Hannity’s world, as in Trump’s, bloviation precedes fact. And so Hannity went first. “The standard flu every single year kills tens of thousands of Americans. Now, does truth matter? Does perspective matter?” Fauci, just as he does when standing beside the President, betrayed no sign of disdain, as he politely corrected the misinformation. “Sean, to make sure your viewers get an accurate idea about what goes on,” he said, covid-19 is “ten times more lethal than the seasonal flu.”
Fake news and conspiracy theories are opportunistic viruses, and for many weeks there was no end to their spread. Jerry Falwell, Jr., one of Trump’s leading evangelical supporters, repeated a theory suggested to him by a restaurant owner he knows: “You remember the North Korean leader promised ‘a Christmas present for America back in December’? Could it be they got together with China and this is that present?” Ron Paul, a former Republican Presidential candidate and a physician, wrote, “People should ask themselves whether this coronavirus ‘pandemic’ could be a big hoax, with the actual danger of the disease massively exaggerated by those who seek to profit––financially or politically––from the ensuing panic.”
During this dangerous period, a range of polls revealed that Republicans, in particular, trust Trump’s information on the virus more than that of the “lame-stream media.” A Marist College-NPR-PBS poll found that more than half of this group thought the risk was being “blown out of proportion.” The Trumpian efforts to downplay the threat to public health held fast among “the base.”
What finally shattered Trump’s serene confidence and the consensus of his followers? Fauci and other officials on the White House task force certainly began to cut through his dismissals in their briefing sessions. An analysis from epidemiologists at Imperial College London, forecasting as many as 2.2 million American fatalities and a health-care system under siege, reportedly helped advance the argument for strict social-distancing measures. And, because this is Trump World, the President listened attentively when he received a visit at Mar-a-Lago from Tucker Carlson, who broke ranks with his Fox News colleagues and urged serious action.
Trump cannot be forgiven for his preening and his belatedness. And yet this least trustworthy of Commanders-in-Chief is entrusted by the authority of his office to make a series of critical decisions. In order to “flatten the curve,” we have rightly set in motion a set of edicts that, while necessary to control the pandemic, will continue to batter the economy, create deep atomization, and cause all manner of suffering. The human need for solidarity is frustrated by the need for social distancing. An economy that seizes up entirely could, in theory, produce nearly as much suffering as the virus itself, particularly for the most vulnerable among us. A host of well-judged policy decisions must be made and executed effectively if the country is to be spared the worst. As recently as Friday, however, the President spent much of his briefing berating a reporter and further alarming the public. It is better to be lucky than good, the old saw has it. Trump is not good; we must hope that he will be lucky.
Right now, as we sit in our homes, washing our hands yet again, as we try to read the querulous expressions of our children, scientists and pharmaceutical companies are racing to develop antiviral treatments and—what will be our most valuable weapon—a vaccine. But no such deliverance is likely to arrive in this calendar year. In the meantime, another form of protection has become more urgent than ever. Misinformation and cant, along with a kindred scorn for science and professional expertise: these things are pathogens, too. Counterfeit facts can polarize, alienate, disaffect, rouse misdirected rage, and foment social division. They have long come at a cost to our civility; at a time of pandemic, especially, they also come at a cost in human lives. ♦
A Guide to the Coronavirus
- How to practice social distancing, from responding to a sick housemate to the pros and cons of ordering food.
- How people cope and create new customs amid a pandemic.
- What it means to contain and mitigate the coronavirus outbreak.
- How much of the world is likely to be quarantined?
- Donald Trump in the time of coronavirus.
- The coronavirus is likely to spread for more than a year before a vaccine could be widely available.
- We are all irrational panic shoppers.
- The strange terror of watching the coronavirus take Rome.
- How pandemics change history.
Trump and the MAGA crowd reminds me that Jim Crow, the Red Summer and Tulsa weren't that long ago. People think what happened in 1932 Germany can't happened again. People are not hardware that has had software updated. We're basically the same people from then. We haven't evolved. If anything we're certainly dumber than people were in 50's and 60's. People think Fascism or authoritarianism can't come to America but what was Jim Crow. In fact, I would argue we've spent the majority of our history as a authoritarian nation. The Nazi looked to the American south for inspiration in writing the Nuremberg Laws. Hitler praised the south for the way the treated blacks.
I don't believe that Trump has plans for the genocide of blacks and other minorities but I'm sure he and his base would love a return to the 1950's, some forms of segregation. They would love to keep us out of their spaces. No more being reminded of their anatomical inferiority. A time in which we didn't have as much influence on culture. A time when you could be lazy and fuck around in high school, then get a job down at the plant because your dad worked there. I'm sure he would love to be able to imprison his critics and enemies. He's a small pathetic bitter man. He hates people who really see him for what he is.
Many well respected historians see the similarities with Trump and Hitler. I haven't heard any of them predict another Holocaust but they realize it's possible. Hitler was in power for almost a decade before they started exterminating Jews.
Soon 2 of the 3 most powerful countries in the world will have Presidents for Life. You don't think Trump would want that for his ego.
I don't believe that Trump has plans for the genocide of blacks and other minorities but I'm sure he and his base would love a return to the 1950's, some forms of segregation. They would love to keep us out of their spaces. No more being reminded of their anatomical inferiority. A time in which we didn't have as much influence on culture. A time when you could be lazy and fuck around in high school, then get a job down at the plant because your dad worked there. I'm sure he would love to be able to imprison his critics and enemies. He's a small pathetic bitter man. He hates people who really see him for what he is.
Many well respected historians see the similarities with Trump and Hitler. I haven't heard any of them predict another Holocaust but they realize it's possible. Hitler was in power for almost a decade before they started exterminating Jews.
Soon 2 of the 3 most powerful countries in the world will have Presidents for Life. You don't think Trump would want that for his ego.
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The ugly history of ‘Lügenpresse,’ a Nazi slur shouted at a Trump rally
A German crowd gives the Nazi salute to the U.S. Olympic contingent as it marches past the reviewing stand of Olympics host Adolf Hitler, pictured in semi-silhouette on the right. (International News Photos)
By
Rick Noack
Reporter
Oct. 24, 2016 at 9:11 a.m. EDT
BERLIN — When a video of two Donald Trump supporters shouting “Lügenpresse” (lying press) started to circulate Sunday, viewers from Germany soon noted its explosive nature. The defamatory word was most frequently used in Nazi Germany. Today, it is a common slogan among those branded as representing the “ugly Germany”: members of xenophobic, right-wing groups.
Its use across the Atlantic Ocean at a Trump rally has worried Germans who know about its origins all too well. Both the Nazi regime and the East German government made use of it, turning it into an anti-democracy slogan.
“Lügenpresse” was branded a taboo word in Germany in 2015 by an academic panel after anti-Islam movements, such as Pegida, started using it more frequently in the presence of journalists. As in the United States, trust in mainstream media is on the decline in Germany.
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The verbal attacks against journalists soon turned into physical violence in Germany. At times, media members were unable to cover the Pegida-organized protest marches without private security personnel. Some reporters who risked going in without bodyguards were beaten up. It is without doubt that the word “Lügenpresse” has an extremely ugly meaning in modern-day Germany.
Its history is even worse, though.
The term emerged way before the Nazis took over in Germany. For instance, the German Defense Ministry released a book titled “The Lügenpresse of Our Enemies” in 1918 during World War I. According to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung newspaper, the term was coined by Reinhold Anton in 1914. In books, Anton used the term mainly in a foreign context to refer to “enemy propaganda.” It is unclear whether Anton was a pseudonym.
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At that time, the word was used more descriptively. A decade later, it had turned into an explosive and stigmatizing propaganda slogan, used to stir hatred against Jews and communists. Critics of Adolf Hitler's regime were frequently referred to as members of the “Lügenpresse apparatus.”
Until today, the word has an anti-Semitic connotation, and it implies hatred not only against journalists but against everyone who opposes the “will of the people.” That abstract concept emerged during World War II when Hitler sought to propagate the idea that Germans were a "master race" superior to all others, especially Jews and Slavic people.
The consequences of that rhetoric — of which the term “Lügenpresse” was an important component under propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels — were horrifying. Millions of people were killed in concentration camps by the Nazis, including Jews, political opponents and homosexuals.
Although the word disappeared from public discourse for almost half a century in democratic West Germany, it continued to flourish in communist East Germany, where it was used to condemn Western countries, including the United States.
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Trump signs an executive order to establish a 'national commission to promote patriotic education
US President Donald Trump made the announcement about what he has dubbed “The 1776 Commission,” at the first White House Conference on American History. He said the commission will be aimed at establishing “patriotic” and “pro-America” education that will celebrate American history. In his...
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“Nationalism Will Run Roughshod Over Democracy”: What Can Nazi Germany Tell Us About Trump’s GOP?
As Trump’s fearmongering, demonization, and threats of violence have invited comparisons to Hitler’s rise, historian Peter Fritzsche separates fact from exaggeration.
It's just a link to a podcast but in the description, there's one line that really stands out:
One difference: “A white ethnic America is much more important in Trump’s campaign than the vision of an Aryanized Germany was in Hitler’s electoral campaigns,” says Fritzsche.
Most racist than Hitler.
Whenever someone refer MAGA to the nazi's, people accuse them of hysteria. Before every catastrophe, there's an expert warning it can happen. I always say the Nazi's weren't the Nazi's until they were. There's video of the Queen of England doing the heil Hitler salute. Look at the things that were written about Hitler in the American Media before WW2. The Nazi's didn't start the mass extermination of Jews until, probably 1941, seven years after they came to power. Prior to that, the treatment of the Jews was similar to and based on the treatment of blacks in Jim Crow America.
One of my interests is Nazi Germany. Germany was one of the most advanced and progressive countries in the world. How did they succumb to a buffoonish clod like Hitler? Sound familiar? Much of the propaganda that the Nazi's inflamed the same sentiments about Jews that whites have towards blacks in America. The Germans hated that the Jews had so much influence on the Arts and were upset at the success the Jews had in intellectual circles and the financial world. There was the false claim widely believed that 75% of the attorneys in Germany were Jews.
You can look up almost any of the experts on the Nazi's and read how they see the similarities between the our countries, especially the British historians. If you're interested, look up any of the these historians views on Trump, Ian Kershaw (the Dean of WW2), Richard J. Evans, Jane Caplan and the Americans, Timothy Snyder and Christopher Browning. Browning is the expert on the Einzsattengrupen, SS troops that were exterminating Jews before the Concentration Camps began.
I just read this article and there's one shocking quote out of it, when asked about the Trump and the Nazi's:
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One of my interests is Nazi Germany. Germany was one of the most advanced and progressive countries in the world. How did they succumb to a buffoonish clod like Hitler? Sound familiar? Much of the propaganda that the Nazi's inflamed the same sentiments about Jews that whites have towards blacks in America. The Germans hated that the Jews had so much influence on the Arts and were upset at the success the Jews had in intellectual circles and the financial world. There was the false claim widely believed that 75% of the attorneys in Germany were Jews.
You can look up almost any of the experts on the Nazi's and read how they see the similarities between the our countries, especially the British historians. If you're interested, look up any of the these historians views on Trump, Ian Kershaw (the Dean of WW2), Richard J. Evans, Jane Caplan and the Americans, Timothy Snyder and Christopher Browning. Browning is the expert on the Einzsattengrupen, SS troops that were exterminating Jews before the Concentration Camps began.
I just read this article and there's one shocking quote out of it, when asked about the Trump and the Nazi's:
“Nationalism Will Run Roughshod Over Democracy”: What Can Nazi Germany Tell Us About Trump’s GOP?
As Trump’s fearmongering, demonization, and threats of violence have invited comparisons to Hitler’s rise, historian Peter Fritzsche separates fact from exaggeration.
