Definition of Cool: All BLACK 'Reservoir Dogs'

All Black Reservoir Dogs Redux, good idea?

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Laurence Fishburne as Mr. White! Inside the all-black (almost) 'Reservoir Dogs' reading

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Imagine a very smooth, very self-satisfied rattlesnake.

That was what Terrence Howard brought to the role of Mr. Blonde, the casually homicidal madman of Quentin Tarantino’s Reservoir Dogs in a one-night-only live-reading of the script last night.

Now picture an older guy, who probably should be thinking about retirement, but realizes too late he has thrown in with the wrong thugs — and he left his medication at home. That was what Laurence Fishburne did with the part of Mr. White, originated by Harvey Keitel.

Up in the Air and Young Adult filmmaker Jason Reitman has been creating these events for the past five months, with one more to go in the series. This time around, he decided to take a movie that once featured an all-white cast and replace it with an entire group of black actors (with one exception.)

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Though the event is not recorded, EW has this to share from the cinematic experiment …

Film critic Elvis Mitchell, who helps curate the Los Angeles Couty Museum of Art events through Film Independent, introduced the proceedings with: “Happy Black History Month, everybody!” He was wearing a tweedy jacket, but it seemed to be a little ill-fitting. After a moment he said, “Something’s wrong …” and disappeared backstage.

When he returned to the microphone, it was wearing a familiar outfit — the black suit and skinny tie of the Reservoir Dogs crooks. “There! That’s better,” he said. “Everybody looks better in black, right?”

In a way, that was the question of the evening: would the performance be better, different, or basically the same by changing the color of the actors? A little over a week before the performance, Reitman told EW he wasn’t really sure what would happen.

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Mitchell theorized that this was just taking the source material back to its roots. Much like rock ‘n’ roll began with music from people of color, he speculated that Tarantino — a connoisseur of ’70s blaxploitation cinema — found inspiration there with his own debut script. “If you were an African-American and saw this movie when it came out, you probably thought, ‘What …? These guys all sound like black dudes!’”

Mitchell characterized it as “the 99 percent black version of Reservoir Dogs.” He laughed. “Because, if you’re African-American, you know … there’s always that 1 percent nobody wants to tell you about in the family!”

The outlier — Patton Oswalt, a staple of Reitman’s readings who previously played the Wallace Shawn role in The Princess Bride, and the Anthony Michael Hall role in The Breakfast Club, among others. Oswalt played, appropriately, the only major black character in the film: Holdaway, the mentor for Tim Roth’s undercover cop, who was originally played by Randy Brooks (a black actor.) Oswalt also did the K-Billy Supersounds of the ’70s voice-over, among other bit parts.



Along with Fisburne and Oswalt, a few other actors were kept under wraps until the performance began: Rapper Common as both Mr. Brown (originated by Tarantino) and the tortured cop Officer Nash (originated by Kirk Baltz), and Chi McBride as the heist boss Joe Cabot, originated by the late Lawrence Tierney.

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At times, McBride’s performance was eerily reminiscent of the fearsome Tierney, right down to the voice and posture, though he brought a warmth that the original actor (who was arrested for shooting a gun at a neighbor during the production) had a hard time faking.

Anthony Mackie took on the iconic part of Mr. Pink, but instead of the movie’s leering creepiness brought a sense of comic panic to the role — more Don Knotts than Steve Buscemi, but a fresh and funny take nonetheless, especially when joined for so many scenes by the exasperated grumpiness of Fishburne’s Mr. White.

Anthony Anderson was Mr. Nice Guy as the appropriately named Nice Guy Eddie, the son of Joe Cabot who helps orchestrate the heist and knows all the major players. He seemed to especially savor his character’s monologue about the differences between white and black women, which definitely played as more admiring than sneering, as it did in the movie coming out of the mouth of the late Chris Penn.

The kind of casually racist dialogue the murderous characters occasionally use, while jarring initially, got plenty of laughs — from the audience and actors alike.



The two stand-outs in the performance undoubtedly were Howard as the homicidal Mr. Blonde (originated by Michael Madsen) and Cuba Gooding Jr. as Mr. Orange, the undercover cop played by Roth in the 1992 film.

Gooding had the broadest spectrum of emotions to play — stark panic at being shot, the stress and pressure of having to pass as a crook to gain access to the heist, stern determination as he tries to keep the bust going, even while wounded, and the affection he forms for Mr. White, his protector as he lay dying, despite the man’s status as a lifelong criminal. As Gooding’s Mr. Orange began to doubt what he was doing, Fishburne’s Mr. White remains stalwart in support of the partner he (mistakenly) trusts.

Then there was Howard, whose willingness to take long, tension-inducing pauses, and apparent memorization of many of his lines, allowed him to create a character who moves at an entirely different speed from what fans of Reservoir Dogs have seen before. While White, Orange, and Pink blustered and fought, Howard’s Blonde remained cool, calm, and collected — rarely raising his voice above a whisper.

When he faced down Mr. White’s gun and says, “Are you gonna bark, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?” the audience first grew deadly quiet — then cheered as White backed down.

It wasn’t a lack of energy — on the contrary, the hushed approach made Howard seem like Hannibal Lecter compared to Madsen’s ear-chopping schoolyard bully. “Alone at last …” he cooed, almost romantically, to the tied-up cop, played by Common in the seat beside him.

“I don’t know anything,” Common said. “You can torture me if you want.”

Howard smiles. “Thank you,” he said, almost sweetly, in the man’s ear. Then the character takes out a knife and begins carving.

In Mr. Blonde’s last stand, falling in a hail of gunfire in the moment he’s about to incinerate the gasoline-soaked cop, Howard cracked a wide smile and broke character as the crowd in the theater applauded. “Aw, I wasn’t ready to die yet!”

Reitman, who narrates the scripts by reading the stage direction, jokingly changed course: “For a moment, Mr. Blonde apparently dodges a few bullets, but THEN …!”

The story is the story — even if the audience wasn’t ready to see that Mr. Blonde go either.

*every time I want to write off Howard as a high pitched punk he does something like this

SHOULD THIS REALLY BE RE-DONE WITH AN ALL BLACK CAST???​

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Damn, no one recorded this.....would have been cool to see a scene or two.
 

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I don't think it should be remade with a black cast....how about making new films like this or hiest films , similar to Oceans 11 with an all black cast instead.. i hate remakes for the sake of remakes, and although some are cool (Death at a Funeral) since they are foreign films brought to the states, I don't think remaking Resevoir Dogs with an all black cast would be the way to go. Just create a new story and setting instead.....
 

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I don't think it should be remade with a black cast....how about making new films like this or hiest films , similar to Oceans 11 with an all black cast instead.. i hate remakes for the sake of remakes, and although some are cool (Death at a Funeral) since they are foreign films brought to the states, I don't think remaking Resevoir Dogs with an all black cast would be the way to go. Just create a new story and setting instead.....

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honestly, after watching THIS I dont think they are capable...:hmm:
 

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Jason Reitman Using An All-Black Cast For His Reservoir Dogs Reading

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Jason Reitman’s re-imagined readings of cherished scripts – can we call them The Reitman Readings? – are so clever, I’m amazed no one thought to do this before … at least, on this scale. To date, he has recruited all-star ensembles for celebrity line-readings of The Breakfast Club, The Apartment, The Princess Bride (with a few original cast members in different roles), and Shampoo. His next, according to EW.com, will be Quentin Tarantino’s brilliant Reservoir Dogs -- with a distinct twist.

“We’re changing the race of the race of the entire cast,” the Young Adult director told the magazine about his upcoming (sold-out) reading, which will be held at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art on Thursday, Feb. 16. “This is kind of the first attempt at really looking at a screenplay through a different lens, and we’ll see what happens when we do that. Maybe nothing changes, or maybe the story becomes completely different.”

Makes sense, when you think about it. Tarantino’s gangsters go by color-coded nicknames, so the color of Reitman’s performances should be a determining factor. So, who does he have in mind? According to EW, Reitman has cast: Terrence Howard as Mr. Blonde, the sadistic bastard originally played by Michael Madsen; Anthony Mackie as Mr. Pink, Steve Buscemi’s original gangster; Cuba Gooding Jr. as Mr. Orange, the undercover cop Tim Roth played; and Anthony Anderson as Nice Guy Eddie, originally played by doughy Chris Penn.

Reitman has a week left to fill out the remaining roles. The hardest to cast, in my opinion, is Mr. White. Harvey Keitel is so freaking outstanding in Dogs, I wouldn’t want to try and change his reading. But Reitman also has to find actors for: Mr. Brown (Reitman should take that, as Tarantino played him in the original); officer Marvin Nash; and ringleader Joe Cabot.

It’s going to be great. The unfortunate part is that most of us won’t get to see it. Hopefully down the road, Reitman can package these into a DVD set, so we can enjoy how different these projects become in different hands. For now, though, what do you think of the casting … and the idea, in general?
 

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Black ‘Reservoir Dogs’ Comes To Stage With Mackie, Gooding, and Howard!

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Jason Reitman, who recently directed the Charlize Theron film, ‘Young Adult,’ is looking to do a Los Angeles one-time-only live staged-reading of Quentin Tarantino‘s 1992 film, ‘Reservoir Dogs,‘ and will be using an all-black cast.

This isn’t the first time Reitman has done stage readings of classic films.
In the past he’s re-created The Breakfast Club, The Apartment, The Princess Bride, and Shampoo.
Tarantino’s film centered on the surviving criminals, who after a simple jewelery heist goes terribly wrong, begin to suspect that one of them is a police informant.

Signing up for selected roles are Terrence Howard, Cuba Gooding Jr., Anthony Mackie, and Anthony Anderson.

Terrence Howard is Mr. Blonde (originally played by Michael Madsen), Anthony Mackie as Mr. Pink (originally played by Steve Buscemi), Cuba Gooding Jr. as Mr. Orange (originally played by Tim Roth) and Anthony Anderson as Nice Guy Eddie (originally played by Chris Penn).

Reitman says he liked Gooding’s good-guy vibe. “You can presume that he’s actually not a thug, not a crook,” he says. “I know Cuba a little bit and I like the idea of seeing him as this character, who talks a lot about the acting process and learning how to act to be undercover.”

“If we were going to make it an all-black cast, we wanted to make sure we started with an all-white cast,” Reitman said. “What makes the Reservoir Dogs script work so well is, despite the fact that it was cast with all white actors, it really is a script that could feature any race.”

The Film Independent event happens at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art on Feb. 16, and although tickets were sold out well before the title was announced, there will be a wait-list line for those willing to take a chance.

(Unfortunately, they aren’t recorded for broadcast due to rights issues.)

This time, in consultation with Film Independent’s Elvis Mitchell, who helps curate the event, they decided to make a more radical switch.

“We talked about the idea of changing the age, changing the gender, and of course changing the race of the characters,” Reitman says. “This is kind of the first attempt at really looking at a screenplay through a different lens, and we’ll see what happens when we do that. Maybe nothing changes, or maybe the story becomes completely different.”

The film, as it turns out, is surprisingly colorblind, given the names of its characters. But then, those code names were specifically chosen because the colors had no meaning.
 

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honestly, after watching THIS I dont think they are capable...:hmm:

The problem is you have too many rappers and singers in black films instead of actual actors. I can't stand when I see a rapper/actor in a serious film. I never saw Takers though, don't know how good or bad it was. All I needed to know that T.I. and Chris Brown was in it...Idris Elba is a great actor, but there is only so much one can do when surrounded by crap.

Although I'm not a fan of Howard and Gooding Jr., a heist/crime thriller like Reservoir Dogs starring actual actors like Fishburne, and them two along with Mackie and others would be the way to go. Common is another horrid actor, but limit his role (like in American Gangster) and I could let him slide.
 

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Jason Reitman to re-create 'Reservoir Dogs' in live reading -- with a major twist

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Jason Reitman has aimed his sights at reinterpreting a new classic: Quentin Tarantino’s Reservoir Dogs.

After re-creating The Breakfast Club, The Apartment, The Princess Bride, and Shampoo in a series of Los Angeles staged readings, Reitman has selected the 1992 crime saga for his latest one-time-only live performance with a new cast.

And there’s a big switch in store for Mr. Blonde, Mr. Pink, Mr. White, Mr. Orange and the rest of the diamond-heist crew.

“We’re changing the race of the entire cast,” Reitman says.

For a while the reading was a toss-up between The Big Chill and Reservoir Dogs, but the crime saga ultimately won out.


“If we were going to make it an all-black cast, we wanted to make sure we started with an all-white cast,” Reitman said. “What makes the Reservoir Dogs script work so well is, despite the fact that it was cast with all white actors, it really is a script that could feature any race.”

The Film Independent event happens at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art on Feb. 16, and although tickets were sold out well before the title was announced, there will be a wait-list line for those willing to take a chance. (Unfortunately, they aren’t recorded for broadcast due to rights issues.)

Reitman’s monthly live-reads began in October as a way for the Up in the Air and Young Adult director to highlight the language in some beloved scripts by having new groups of actors read them on stage before an audience. “You can truly reinterpret a screenplay,” says Reitman, who narrates the stage directions during each show.

In past performances, Reitman cast Bradley Cooper for the Warren Beatty role in Shampoo, Steve Carell for Jack Lemmon’s part in The Apartment, and made Cary Elwes the villain Humperdinck in The Princess Bride while Paul Rudd took on Elwes’ original role of the hero Westley.

This time, in consultation with Film Independent’s Elvis Mitchell, who helps curate the event, they decided to make a more radical switch.

“We talked about the idea of changing the age, changing the gender, and of course changing the race of the characters,” Reitman says. “This is kind of the first attempt at really looking at a screenplay through a different lens, and we’ll see what happens when we do that. Maybe nothing changes, or maybe the story becomes completely different.”

The film, as it turns out, is surprisingly colorblind, given the names of its characters. But then, those code names were specifically chosen because the colors had no meaning.

The cast is still coming together, but click through the next pages for a look at who has signed on to the all-black Reservoir Dogs so far.
 

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like any movie...if it's done properly...

if they cast it...they'll probably cast big names...jus because they are big names..even if they are wrong for the part...

like for instance..cuba gooding jr. ..while i think he's a good actor ... his voice is too soft to be an effective bad guy ... even if he's playin' the undercover cop.. i would find it hard to believe that the bad guys would accept him into their organization...

terrence howard ... at least ...has the ability to deepen his voice..to be menacin' like he did in Dead Presidents or Get Rich or Die Tryin' and Hustle & Flow...

i would keep anthony mackie [have him play mr. orange]... and add chiwetel eijifor would be a good mr. white. ... and idris elba in the role of that guy who was the guy who kinda masterminded the whole heist [Nice Guy Eddie]..

chi mcbride would be a good choice... he can play very intimidatin' characters...i would use him in the boss role..

and let antoine fuqua direct...
 
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The problem is you have too many rappers and singers in black films instead of actual actors. I can't stand when I see a rapper/actor in a serious film. I never saw Takers though, don't know how good or bad it was. All I needed to know that T.I. and Chris Brown was in it...Idris Elba is a great actor, but there is only so much one can do when surrounded by crap.

Although I'm not a fan of Howard and Gooding Jr., a heist/crime thriller like Reservoir Dogs starring actual actors like Fishburne, and them two along with Mackie and others would be the way to go. Common is another horrid actor, but limit his role (like in American Gangster) and I could let him slide.

I agree but I dont want to say EVERY rapper is crap...

Will and Mos Def are good, So is Latifah even LL and Common have their moments.

I think an Ocean 11 type flick with quality writing and a good budget is PERFECT.

But because of the reputation of QT's work I think even if THIS reading was filmed it would have had a huge effect on the market.

I would have went to a reading and went to see this at the theater first weekend with NO trailer if Spike or Earnest Dickerson or QT himself directed it.

Especially spike cause I think the Inside Man is an under-rated classic and if made by ANY OTHER director would have been on its 3rd sequel by now.
 

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like any movie...if it's done properly...

if they cast it...they'll probably cast big names...jus because they are big names..even if they are wrong for the part...

like for instance..cuba gooding jr. ..while i think he's a good actor ... his voice is too soft to be an effective bad guy ... even if he's playin' the undercover cop.. i would find it hard to believe that the bad guys would accept him into their organization...

terrence howard ... at least ...has the ability to deepen his voice..to be menacin' like he did in Dead Presidents or Get Rich or Die Tryin' and Hustle & Flow...

i would keep anthony mackie [have him play mr. orange]... and add chiwetel eijifor would be a good mr. white. ... and idris elba in the role of that guy who was the guy who kinda masterminded the whole heist [Nice Guy Eddie]..

chi mcbride would be a good choice... he can play very intimidatin' characters...i would use him in the boss role..

and let antoine fuqua direct...

you KNOW some Hollywood lurker casting agent just JACKED this idea right?

:D
 

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I agree but I dont want to say EVERY rapper is crap...

Will and Mos Def are good, So is Latifah even LL and Common have their moments.

I think an Ocean 11 type flick with quality writing and a good budget is PERFECT.

But because of the reputation of QT's work I think even if THIS reading was filmed it would have had a huge effect on the market.

I would have went to a reading and went to see this at the theater first weekend with NO trailer if Spike or Earnest Dickerson or QT himself directed it.

Especially spike cause I think the Inside Man is an under-rated classic and if made by ANY OTHER director would have been on its 3rd sequel by now.

Will has long ago stopped being an a rapper and has focused more on acting....

Mos was an actor before he became a rapper if I recall correctly....

I see your points about LL and Dana Owens. Hell, even Ice T is decent as an actor now on SVU.

Just would hate to see one of these films splattered with music industry names to just sell extra tickets....
 

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MR. BLONDE

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Terrence Howard will play the sadistic killer who is the only thief not suspected of being an undercover police officer. As Mr. Pink puts it: “Right now, this guy is the only one I completely trust. He’s too f—ing homicidal to be working with the cops.”

Michael Madsen played the original ear-slicing role.
 

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Will has long ago stopped being an a rapper and has focused more on acting....

Mos was an actor before he became a rapper if I recall correctly....

I see your points about LL and Dana Owens. Hell, even Ice T is decent as an actor now on SVU.

Just would hate to see one of these films splattered with music industry names to just sell extra tickets....

Of course you right...

same goes for those horror remakes filled with those teen WB stars...
 

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MR. PINK
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Steve Buscemi leaves behind some big, bloody shoes to fill, but The Hurt Locker‘s Anthony Mackie is going to take a walk in them for a night.

Now imagine the frustration in his voice as his whines: “Why am I Mr. Pink?”

No word on what kind of tipper Mackie is in real life.
 

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MR. ORANGE
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Cuba Gooding Jr. will play the undercover cop who goes far deeper than he ever wanted to with this gang of robbers. Tim Roth originated the role.

Reitman says he liked Gooding’s good-guy vibe. “You can presume that he’s actually not a thug, not a crook,” he says. “I know Cuba a little bit and I like the idea of seeing him as this character, who talks a lot about the acting process and learning how to act to be undercover.”

Of course, when Mr. Orange gets shot and reflexively draws his gun and shoots a civilian, the line between good guy and bad guy gets awfully blurry.
 

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NICE GUY EDDIE
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The late Chris Penn’s character never put on one of the generic black suits that the other robbers wear as a kind of uniform — his wardrobe was more “sleazeball casual.” As one of the organizers of the heist, he was never supposed to get close to the action anyway, until things went horribly wrong.

Anthony Anderson will be taking over this character, who not only provides a great deal of comic relief, but is one of the most vicious of the characters in Reservoir Dogs. As a guy who can be both funny and fearsome (remember his turn as the drug kingpin Antwon Mitchell on The Shield?), Anderson should fit into that track suit nicely.
 
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