Because the officer has reasonable suspicion to stop doesn’t mean that he has the right to pat someone down for weapons. Once the police lawfully stop someone, they can only conduct a pat down if the officer reasonably believes that the suspect may be armed or a danger to the officer or others. Looks like in this case, the pig doesn't have a valid reason. So ole boy was well within his rights to deny the search. Since he was cited,...that means they had his info, more than likely ran a background check....came up with nothing.....now they on a fishing expedition.
Nah.....im not in neither.Yeah fam, you summed it up perfectly
Are you in law enforcement? Or in the legal/judicial field?
(Not to get in your business or anything)
Basically I wanted to create this thread to help educate the other bruhs on here
As the saying goes....."If you don't know your rights, you will lose your rights"
Cops nowadays will use all types of bullshit tactics
And if people don't know what thier rights are (even just the basic rights like the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th amemdments)
Then you might get hemmed up dealing with these crooked ass pigs
Nah.....im not in neither.
But since i open carry a lot, and i've been stopped a lot by police when they see me open carrying,
i've made myself aware of the various laws in states i've frequently visit with regards to stop and frisk,
stop and ID, my rights as a passenger in a car,...even down to Supreme and State Court decisions,
specific penal codes.....especially 38.02 (Failure to Identify) here in Texas. Cops try to use that a lot as
a means to arrest people. But here in Texas, there has to be a crime (or a suspicion of a crime) in order to ID someone.
So just because they see me walking around with a gun on my hip or in my shoulder holsters doesn't justify suspicion of a crime....so they can't
just stop me and ask for ID.
a few that i've reviewed for my own knowledge and come in useful:
Terry vs Ohio
Florida vs. JL
United States vs Spears
United States vs Quinn
Arizona vs Gant
United States vs. Lenderos
Delaware v Prouse, 1979 (Police can't pull you over for the purposes of just wanting to see if you have a drivers license.
This is a 4th amendment violation.)
and of course, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals recently upheld in 2019 that passengers of a car in traffic stops, Do Not have to ID themselves.
Cop is a straight dickhead
Right. We gotta know our right and not fall for the bullshit.Yeah fam, basically the cops wanted to illegally search him for guns or drugs
Just straight up profiled that dude
Cops can't just search us "for the hell of it"
They need 3 things:
Reasonable suspicion of a CRIME
and.....
Reasonable suspicion the person has a weapon
and.....
Reasonable suspicion the person is dangerous
and of course, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals recently upheld in 2019 that passengers of a car in traffic stops, Do Not have to ID themselves.