How Much Do The Russian People Know About What’s Going on in Ukraine?

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Mass Media in Russia - According to Wiki

Television, magazines, and newspapers are all operated by both state-owned and for-profit corporations which depend on advertising, subscription, and other sales-related revenues. Even though the Constitution of Russia guarantees freedom of speech the country is plagued by both government and self censorship.[note 1]

The organisation Reporters Without Borderscompiles and publishes an annual ranking of countries based upon the organisation's assessment of their press freedom records. In 2016 Russia was ranked 148th out of 179 countries, six places below the previous year, mainly due to the return of Vladimir Putin.[7] Freedom House compiles a similar ranking and placed Russia at number 176 out of 197 countries for press freedom for 2013, placing it at the level with Sudan and Ethiopia.[8] The Committee to Protect Journalists states that Russia was the country with the 10th largest number of journalists killed since 1992, 26 of them since the beginning of 2000, including four from Novaya Gazeta.[9] It also placed Russia at number 9 in the world for numbers of journalists killed with complete impunity.
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How Putin Wants Russians to See the War in Ukraine
Even if his hold on power is precarious, he can still convince Russians that the whole world is conspiring against them.

Masha Gessen
March 01, 2022


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People seem to be tired of Putin, and Putin seems to feel himself teetering, a Moscow-based analyst of contemporary Russian society said. The outcome could be dire.
 

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Protests across Russia see thousands detained



Riot police at a demonstration in Moscow on Sunday
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Nearly 4,000 people have been detained at anti-war protests across Russia on Sunday, rights groups and Russian authorities say.

Some 1,700 people were detained in Moscow alone, the RIA news agency reported, citing the interior ministry.

The OVD-Info rights group says detentions took place in 53 cities.

Although protests have become increasingly restricted in recent years, numerous rallies have taken place across Russia since the invasion.

In the last 11 days, more than 10,000 people have been detained at protests, OVD-Info says.

"The screws are being fully tightened - essentially we are witnessing military censorship," Maria Kuznetsova, OVD-Info's spokeswoman, told Reuters news agency from Tbilisi in Georgia.

"We are seeing rather big protests today - even in Siberian cities, where we only rarely saw such numbers of arrests."

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Image caption, A policeman by a busload of detained protesters in St Petersburg

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A woman being led away in Moscow

Hundreds were arrested in St Petersburg
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Hundreds were detained in St Petersburg

Earlier this week, government critic Alexei Navalny - who is in jail on fraud charges - called for daily demonstrations against the invasion, saying Russia should not be a "nation of frightened cowards".

However, a number of new laws have made it harder to protest in Russia in recent years, rights groups say.

"Although Russian legislation avoids explicitly using terms like 'permit' or 'ban'... it effectively requires organisers to seek authorisation for their assemblies," Amnesty International says.

According to Russian human rights group OVD-Info - which was set up in 2011 - more than 2,500 people were detained across Russia on Sunday.

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Watch: Anti-war protesters arrested and beaten in Yekaterinburg, Russia

It publishes the names and locations of those arrested, as well as total figures.

"Each police department may have more detainees than published lists," it says. "We publish only the names of those people about whom we know for certain and whose names we can publish."
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Protesters in Almaty, Kazakhstan, in front of a Lenin statue
Thousands of people protested against the invasion in Brussels on Sunday
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Thousands of people protested against the invasion in Brussels on Sunday


Sunday, but around the world. In Kazakhstan - an ally of Moscow - a peace rally was permitted in Almaty, attended by around 2,000 people.
Anti-war protesters also took to the streets in cities like Brussels, in Belgium, and London.

In Ukraine itself, Russian troops occupying the southern city of Nova-Kakhovka opened fire to try to disperse demonstrators.

A video from the city, in the Kherson region, shows protesters calling for the Russians to "go home" amid the sound of gunfire and stun grenades. The demonstrators appear to hold their ground.

One report said five people had been injured.

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Why Russian opposition to Putin's war is crucial — and how U.S. sanctions could hurt it
The West is cheering Russia's anti-war protesters. But is our policy hurting their cause?
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SAOIRSE GOWAN
MARCH 6, 2022

Russian President Vladimir Putin's aggressive, immoral, and illegal invasion of Ukraine that began last month has only continued to escalate. Putin's troops have begun shelling civilian populations in Kharkiv and Kyiv, and the risk of nuclear strike or accident continues to loom.

But where Ukrainians have banded together to fight for their lives and their sovereignty, Russia is not united in this war. Russian protestors have risked everything to stand against the war despite living under an authoritarian government that meets dissent with police and judicial brutality. Their bravery is indisuputable. But very much in question is whether Western policy will help or hurt their cause.


OVD-Info, an independent human rights media project that tracks political persecution in Russia, estimates that more than 8,000 Russians have been detained as a result of anti-war activities in recent days. Many media outlets have been forced to close or to cease their coverage of the conflict, and new legislation passed in the Russian Duma this week would impose 15-year prison sentences on any journalist or protestor who contradicts the government's official narrative about the invasion.

These crackdowns don't show the strength of the Russian state, but rather its fear of the Russian people. Governments engage in repression of this nature precisely because ordinary people possess the capability to force changes in policy and government through collective action.

Those of us who marched against the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan should see the Russian anti-war movement as allies in the fight against war and aggression. Their boldness is inspiring, and it will be their movement, along with Ukrainian resistors, who will be responsible if there is to be a just and lasting peace.

That's true in a moral sense but also because there is very little Ukraine's Western sympathizers can realistically do to help. It's unlikely that any amount of Western military and economic aid to Ukraine will be sufficient to secure an absolute military victory, and the Biden administration is absolutely correct to rule out direct military interventions such as a "no-fly zone" (an innocent-sounding name for a policy that would require NATO to bomb Russian air defenses and bases, potentially triggering an all-out continental war with a nuclear-armed power). If Putin comes to the negotiating table, it won't be through force alone, but because the costs of continuing a long war against the Ukrainian people have become too high at home and within Ukraine itself.


We know from U.S. wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan that withdrawals often come about due to a combination of stiff resistance from the occupied population and a strong anti-war movement that succeeds in keeping a costly war at the forefront of domestic debate. Americans may be less familiar with the catastrophic Soviet intervention in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989, a blunder so bad it contributed significantly to the Soviet Union's collapse. That invasion involved over half a million Soviet troops, many conscripted. Some of its survivors surely must empathize with the young men forced into the conflict today — told by propagandists they'd be greeted as liberators only to discover they're hated as an invading army.

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Family members of conscript soldiers, too, are a key demographic for resisting the war from within Russia, much like the grieving American mothers whose children were sent off to die in Iraq and Afghanistan. While we condemn Russian political leadership, the generals carrying out this brutality, and soldiers who perpetrate atrocities, it is important for us not to dehumanize Russian conscripts and their families or celebrate their deaths. Nor should we turn a blind eye to instances of discrimination against Russian culture in the West, such as vandalism against Russian-themed restaurants, which will lend credibility to Putin's claims that Western solidarity with Ukrainians is motivated by hatred of Russians, especially when those claims are filtered through propagandistic media.

Indeed, this war is a tragedy for ordinary people on all sides — though certainly a greater one for Ukrainians as a whole — and we should remember that, absent the unlikely event of an outright Ukrainian military victory, the options remaining on the table are basically three: 1) the effective end of Ukrainian independence, 2) a military intervention by NATO that could trigger a nuclear exchange, or 3) a diplomatic solution fostered by a combination of Ukrainian resistance and Russian domestic opposition to the war.


In this context, other governments, and particularly that of the United States, have a responsibility to consider the outcomes of retaliatory economic measures. Russian history professor Gregory Afinogenov of Georgetown University argues at Dissent that sanctions against Putin himself will do little to change his behavior here because Putin is largely motivated by concerns other than material wealth. Sanctions against oligarchs, Afinogenov argues, will only increase their dependence on the Kremlin for economic security (though, I would add, some measures labeled as sanctions, like ending "golden passport" schemes that allow Russian oligarchs to buy Western citizenship, are justified for other reasons). Afinogenov reserves his strongest criticism, however, for broad sanctions that primarily hurt the Russian working class:

[C]utting Russia off from SWIFT and freezing central bank assets are the worst [sanctions], because they lead to hyperinflation and shortages of key imports that millions of vulnerable Russians depend on. Putin has already anticipated the likely effects of all three types of sanctions and therefore will not be deterred by them; neither have sanctions ever worked to catalyze effective political opposition to the regime (or to other regimes targeted by Western sanctions). [Dissent]
This is correct. There is little evidence the U.S. sanctions which target ordinary people in Russia (and many, many other nations) do much other than giving the regime a scapegoat for economic troubles and a pretext for cracking down on domestic opposition.

Punishing working-class Russians for their government's actions will not help Ukrainians, but it might undermine popular movements that could develop the capacity to force Putin to withdraw, to bring Russian conscripts home from war, and — we must hope — to bring larger change to Moscow, building a more peaceful, democratic, and egalitarian Russia, ruled by its people and not the oligarchs and generals who were empowered after the Soviet collapse.

Leveling severe sanctions so we can "do something" may make us feel less impotent. But cheering brave Russian protesters is useless if our policies actively hurt their push for a just peace.
 

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Horrific scenes in battle for Kyiv as families killed fleeing Russian onslaught

Horrific indeed. How much, I wonder, do the Russian people get to see/know about this??? Would they tolerate this massacre if they knew??? Or, are they powerless to stop it??? If so, then who should move to stop it, ???

Lots of questions; any answers ???
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Zelenskyy needs to quit this effeminate response asking for no fly zones which is crazy, he messed up and needs take responsibility. You speak their language, you look Russians, you are not European.

1. Victoria Nuland phone call leaking out approving leadership.
2. Heavy presence of idiotic U.S. political leadership in the country such as Hunter Biden. Imagine a Russian coup in Canada, than Putin family member sitting on the board of companies and having high level contacts with the President.
3. Not proclaiming neutrality.
4. Neo-Nazis attacking ethnic Russians

Now they are greenlighting military equipment and other garbage that will escalate the conflict to nuclear war.



Many countries in Africa were colonized and gained their independence after 100 years. The British came in with machine guns to overwhelm. Ukraine may go through a similar process.


The next retarded scheme of the U.S. political leadership is to get a country that is part of NATO to give military aid to Ukraine that does not possess nuclear weapons. Russia will respond with a conventional attack since they don't have nukes. This will give the U.S. the provocation to invade the country or directly attack Russia.

Unfortunately, I have been dealing with their criminal thought process for years and know how they will respond. Three more years left of these cannibalist bed wenches and incompetent leadership.

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I am writing alot about this conflict, you can study the tactics of our enemy which are commonly used against us. Zelensky is half Jewish and speaks Russian natively, rather Ukrainian. Immediately, they brought up his background when Putin brought up genocide, rather than discuss any substantive actions taken to create a healthy relationship of diversity with ethnic Russian. Rather than dealing with the real issues facing the ethnic Russians in Ukraine, they put this President Obama-esque figure out to mask their intent. The Russians were not having it unlike us which is insulting, Putin met with the Israeli PM to mock them after the tables have turned.

Meanwhile the ethnic Russians are getting tuned out by the Asov battalion and other groups. We have a rash of police shooting when President Obama was in office, trade policy that is against our interest, and other nonsense. President Obama is half-Jewish also, anyways, it went rapidly downhill with surveillance for me when he came into power.

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They are sanctioning Russia hard because they are inadvertently exposing this tactic to us. In any event, I know their proclivity to imagine and implement these retarded schemes that will start WWIII such as using a non nuclear country part of the alliance to give military aid. The Ukrainians (with the help of the U.S.) elected leadership to mask their genocide with the Russians and they are paying the price now.
 

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‘I’m not afraid of anyone’: Zelensky defiantly shares location amid Russian attacks
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky defiantly revealed his location during a video posted to social media Monday and vowed, “I’m staying in Kyiv.
“On Bankova Street [where the presidential offices are located],” he said. “Not hiding, and I’m not afraid of anyone.”
Zelensky pointed the camera out the window to show what appeared to be nighttime in Kyiv and also the Gorodetsky House, which sits across the street from his offices.
The brazen declaration comes after the Ukrainian leader is reported to have dodged three attempts on his life by Kremlin assassins since the Russian invasion began.
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The video begins selfie-style and tracks Zelensky as he walks through wood-paneled hallways. It then cuts to a higher-resolution video camera showing the president sitting at a desk, putting away his cell phone.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky shared his location on a video posted to social media and vowed to remain in Kyiv.

Ukrainian officials last week said they’d eliminated a pair of Chechen hit squads gunning for Zelensky — and that intelligence thwarting the attempts had come from sources within the Russian security apparatus.
Get the latest updates in the Russia-Ukraine conflict with The Post’s live coverage.
Zelensky is also believed to have survived two attempts on his life by the shadowy Wagner Group, a mercenary outfit made up of Russian ex-soldiers and suspected of war crimes across the globe.
This isn’t the first time Zelensky taunted his would-be killers — soon after turning down an evacuation offer by the US in the first days of fighting, Zelensky posted a video of himself on the streets of Kyiv.
“I’m here,” he said.
Map of Russian attacks in Ukraine as of Monday, March 7th, 2022. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said he is “not afraid of anyone,” and is believed to have survived two assassination attempts. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky begins the video with cell phone footage of what appears to be a building across from his presidential offices.
 

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I am writing alot about this conflict, you can study the tactics of our enemy which are commonly used against us.
Zelensky is half Jewish and speaks Russian natively, rather Ukrainian. Immediately, they brought up his background when Putin brought up genocide, rather than discuss any substantive actions taken to create a healthy relationship of diversity with ethnic Russian. Rather than dealing with the real issues facing the ethnic Russians in Ukraine, they put this President Obama-esque figure out to mask their intent. The Russians were not having it unlike us which is insulting, Putin met with the Israeli PM to mock them after the tables have turned.

Meanwhile the ethnic Russians are getting tuned out by the Asov battalion and other groups. We have a rash of police shooting when President Obama was in office, trade policy that is against our interest, and other nonsense. President Obama is half-Jewish also, anyways, it went rapidly downhill with surveillance for me when he came into power.

I’ve read the above several times trying to understand your point. How does Obama even remotely relate to the Russo-Ukrainian conflict ??? And, how does that seem to have any “personal” relevance to you ?

Maybe I just missed it. Sometimes one can read too deeply trying to understand the complex and just overlook the simplistic.

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Behind the curtain: how Russians are reacting to Ukraine invasion

Puck News Founding Partner and Washington Correspondent Julia Ioffe and former CNN Moscow Bureau Chief Jill Dougherty join CNN's Dana Bash to share their insight into what Russians really think about Putin's war in Ukraine.
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I can point you to videos on Youtube showing this is the case. The fact they installed this Jewish/President Obama like figure and readily discussed his tragic family history is a red flag to refute accusations.

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Victoria Nuland said fuck the EU, who was hesitant to get involved with Nazis, we are proceeding with our plans. This was based on leaked tapes. Zelenskyy is scum that setup President Trump for impeachment after showing favoritism toward Putin. He refused to cooperate with the DOJ investigation into President Biden to entrap President Trump with threatening his military aid. What is next, missile attacks against Air Force One, that a head of state of another country in concert with the President political rival plots? This is a sign of weakness that can not be tolerated.



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They have Neo Nazis running all over the country killing ethnic Russians- claiming they are not pure white, meanwhile they have a Jewish/native Russian speaking president. The sanctions really poured on when they started talking about getting rid of the Nazis in the country. This is a playbook they used in the United States being setup in other countries.
 

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Western white males are highly effeminate and emotional, white females are significantly emotional. A western Euro male would be equivalent to a black female. I have also observed this behavior with Asians and Indians.

I know with me they went crazy, crying chasing me around like a loser - threatening violence. Yes, they don't shed tears, but they over respond and try to harm you. You have to be careful because anything can upset them emotionally and they will try to ban you. Russia is facing this same predicament, yes they are males, but they are coequal to women.

One test that you can use is creating some competition where they lose or refusal, and observing their response. A masculine response would be training harder or changing tactics to win, versus effeminate which is unrelated personal attacks, threatening violence, blacklisting you. A slight refusal or disagreement they will ignore/continue their neutrality and not be affected by it.

There are many competitive sports, highly racialized where they killed people because they won or could have beat a great white hope.

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BREAKING NEWS: A Russian man has chained himself to a McDonald's in Moscow, saying “They fed us this food for 30 years... and now they are leaving us. The sanctions are depriving me of the food that I have eaten all my life.”
(From Visegrád 24)
 

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Lets be real this is white trash. Russia is an oil dictatorship and only difference between them and those Middle Eastern oil dictatorships is their white skin.

Russia is a shithole country full of white trash.
 

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Russia sends prisoners, mercenaries, ‘conscripts’ from CADLR to fight in Ukraine
 

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Another angle to this conflict and previous conflicts is the notion of censorship. MSM, both Western and Russian isn't showing us the whole picture. Most of us are both unaware and unable to get information about this conflict due to media censorship.
 

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Forget what Russians know about what is happening in Ukraine. I don't know what is going on in Russia, Youtube is censoring their content. They tried to pose as neutral but now they have become extremely effeminate even though a man is running the company, emotionally responding by banning content right and left.

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I don't want to watch slanted, delusional U.S. garbage coming out of the Biden administration. I might use my VPN to see if I can bypass. They tried to come at me, what they should be doing is assisting me leave the country with dignity, not conjuring up retarded schemes.
 

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Putin's chilling warning to Russian 'traitors' and 'scum' is a sign things aren't going to plan

Analysis by Angela Dewan, CNN
March 17, 2022


(CNN) Western leaders and security agencies are spending huge amounts of resources on getting into Russian President Vladimir Putin'shead. It's a futile exercise -- at times when the West has thought Russia's war in Ukraine might be losing steam, Putin has doubled down, sending his forces to bomb maternity hospitalsand shelters harboring children.

Now, an apparent pause in the advancement of Russian troops has the West guessing: Has Russia's war effort stalled? Or is it a tactical regrouping?

Either way, an incendiary Stalinesque speech on Wednesday night in which Putin called Russians opposing the war "traitors" marked a change in tone and a sign that not all is going to plan, experts said. Perhaps more worrying, many observers saw it as a sign that the head of the Russian state, facing setback in Ukraine, would take a vengeful turn at home and crack down more forcefully than ever on any sign of dissent.


While some Russians support the war, many others are protesting against it in the streets, fully aware they will be rounded up by heavily armed police even for the most peaceful of demonstrations. The Russian state has made mass protests illegal, and now, insulting the military is against the law. Still, people show up in groups, while others demonstrate entirely alone. Even lone protesters have been detained, social media videos have shown.

A journalist who jumped on camera on a state-controlled news program, holding an anti-war sign, has become a cause celebré for free speech in Russia. A renowned ballerina has left the Bolshoi. Russian prisoners of war are calling Putin out for using propaganda to justify the war.


'We all will be judged.' Russian prisoners of war voice disquiet, shame over war in Ukraine

Russian prisoners of war voice disquiet, shame over war in Ukraine


Putin, who has enjoyed consistently high ratings in Russia, is now turning to a strategy of intimidation to keep Russians on side, experts said. His speech Wednesday hinted darkly that those Russians who do not side with him were, in essence, traitors -- chilling words in a country where mass political repressions and the Gulag system are still within living memory.

"The West will try to rely on the so-called fifth column, on national traitors, on those who earn money here with us but live there. And I mean 'live there' not even in the geographical sense of the word, but according to their thoughts, their slavish consciousness," Putin said. The "fifth column" usually refers to sympathizers of the enemy during a war.

"Such people who by their very nature, are mentally located there, and not here, are not with our people, not with Russia," Putin said, mocking them as the type that "cannot live without oysters and gender freedom."

"But any people, and even more so the Russian people, will always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors, and simply spit them out like a gnat that accidentally flew into their mouths, spit them out on the pavement," he said.

For Tatiana Stanovaya, founder of the political analysis firm R. Politik, Putin's speech proved the leader's plan has derailed.


"It seems to me that everything is starting to crumble with Putin. This speech of his is despair, strong emotion, impotence," she wrote on her official Telegram account.

Pointing to the situation in Russia, Stanovaya argues that Putin is losing the battle of popularity, too.

"This is the beginning of the end. Yes, they will twist everyone's elbows, lock them up, imprison them, but it is already all without a future ... Everything will crack and slip."


Elisabeth Braw, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, said Putin's speech reflected how isolated the Russian leader had become.
"What we saw as the war began, and what we have seen since -- including last night's speech -- is really the result of a man whose entire world takes place inside his head," Braw told CNN, explaining how Putin had isolated intensely during the pandemic and was now more cut off as Western sanctions batter the Russian economy.
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How long can Ukraine hold out in the war for the skies?


She said that he was likely surprised and angered by how far the West has gone with sanctions, and was now worried of the backlash that would likely soon come from the Russian people.

"There is a sort of humiliation of a country that is now seeing McDonald's close, where Russians are flocking to IKEA to get every last item that's available before it leaves the country -- that is humiliating, and of course, also rather frightening when you think of the potential reaction among the Russian public once these consumer goods are no longer available," she said.


Putin's ominous warning to Russians came as the UK's Defense Ministry said the invasion had "largely stalled on all fronts."

"Russian forces have made minimal progress on land, sea or air in recent days and they continue to suffer heavy losses," the ministry tweeted Thursday, adding that Ukrainian resistance remained "staunch and well-coordinated."

That chimes with the assessment from a senior US defense official, who told reporters on Monday that Russian forces in and around several key cities had made no appreciable progress over the prior weekend.

It may be wishful thinking to read so much into this pause. Russia's military is far mightier than Ukraine's by every measure. Any "stall" is more likely to be tactical than a sign of Russia backing down.

Nonetheless, Russia's invasion hasn't brought easy pickings for Putin. In 2014, Russia was able to annex Crimea in around three weeks -- the same amount of time this war has raged so far. Ukraine's resistance, propped up by weapons sent from the West, has been greater than Putin had calculated, experts said.

That's clear by the way Russian forces are now bombing civilian targets indiscriminately. They are also showing signs of being stretched to their limits.

A public intelligence assessment report released Tuesday by the UK Defense Ministry said that Russia was calling up reinforcements from across the entire country. This includes the eastern section of the Russian Federation, troops in the Pacific Fleet and Armenia, as well as fighters from "private military companies, Syrians, and other mercenaries." The journalist who protested on Russian state TV says it was 'impossible to stay silent' Journalist who protested on Russian state TV tells CNN why she did it




Braw said that the stall in Russian forces' movement was likely the result of Russia working out next steps.

"Russia clearly counted on a swift and decisive success, which didn't happen. They face more united, better trained Ukrainian fighters than Russia appreciated," she said. "So they went to Plan B, which was brutal warfare, but Ukraine is standing firm.
They are winning back towns, they recently liberated a local mayor who was taken captive. So if that's not working, what's Plan C?"
At the very least, Ukraine's resistance has put the country in a better place for negotiations with Putin than it would have been at the start of the war, Braw said.

What Putin won't want is to lose many more soldiers, she added.

"If Russia returns from the Ukrainian war with a completely decimated military, it's clearly pursued the wrong strategy."






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Russia-Ukraine: What do young Russians think about the war?

Young Russians tell us about a war few wanted and how the sanctions are affecting their lives.


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Sanctions on Russia following its invasion of Ukraine have targeted banks, oil refineries and key members of the Russian regime and oligarchs close to the Kremlin, but have also led [to or] caused the value of the rouble to plummet and inflation to soar, impacting the daily lives of Russian citizens [Pavel Golovkin/AP Photo]


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Since Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, an outcry has arisen around the world. On March 2, the UN voted overwhelmingly to approve a resolution demanding the end of the invasion, with only five countries opposing – Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea, and Syria. As the war rages on, thousands have been killed according to Ukrainian authorities and many more injured.

In response, the US, EU, UK and other countries have levelled sanctions, both general and targeted, and doors have closed to Russians around the world, from research institutions to sporting events, in protest at Russia’s invasion.
Sanctions have targeting banks, oil refineries, military and luxury product exports as well as members of the Russian regime and oligarchs with close ties to the Kremlin. Companies, too, have closed their doors in Russia, including fast-food giant McDonald’s which has temporarily shut its roughly 850 outlets.

Surveys have suggested that the majority of Russians support the invasion. But it is difficult to determine how reliable these surveys are, in light of new crackdowns on free speech and dissent in Russia, where even the use of the word “war” to describe the invasion is now a crime. In the meantime, sanctions affect every Russian citizen in their daily lives – both those who support and those who oppose the war, those at home and those abroad.

Al Jazeera spoke with five young Russians about their views on the invasion, and how the blowback has affected them.

Anna and friends tied green ribbons, one of the anti-war symbols, to trees and plants around a park in Moscow
Green ribbons, anti-war symbols, are tied to trees and plants in Moscow [Courtesy of an interviewee]

Anna*, 22, Moscow –‘None of us wanted this war’
I’m doing OK, but the whole situation is quite tough. Literally, all of my friends and me are shocked. None of us wanted this war, and we stand in opposition to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s actions. But we have no right to express our position. At demonstrations, people are detained for several days or fined. Now, any anti-war speech can result in up to 15 years of imprisonment. Some of my friends are leaving the country right now, and I understand them.


Russian authorities want to declare Meta(which owns Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp) extremist. All those platforms will stop working in Russia, but I hope that with a VPN, it will be possible to continue using them.

I deleted some of my messages because the police check social media chats on public transportation. In addition, the police recently searched the flat of a close friend of mine and then put her under house arrest for two months. I was very frightened. She had been putting up posters that said “No to war” around the city. The investigation is ongoing, but she is fine. But the whole situation is awful, of course.

The situation is exacerbated by the fact that the older generation is drowning in propaganda and believes that Putin’s actions are justified.

It is surreal. I’ve already stopped communicating with my father and grandfather for a while.

Now, I’m very encouraged by the fact that the world understands that the Russian people did not choose this war, that instead it was started by a president who lives in some absurd reality of his own. And if I am not imprisoned soon for speaking out against war, I want to try – together with like-minded people – to do everything I can to give our country hope for a peaceful future.


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A McDonald’s restaurant in Moscow’s Prospect Vernadskogo district [Courtesy of an interviewee]

Yana*, 25, Moscow – ‘It feels like we don’t have any control’
When I think about the conflict, I feel anxious, sad, and frustrated. Mostly because I don’t understand how anyone could take this step – to send people to fight, to kill others. It’s scary.

On one hand, it’s affected everyone – psychologically, economically, and in many other ways. And on the other hand, I understand that we could be hurt if we did something to try and change it. It feels like we don’t have any control. Petitions and protests are forbidden. People are arrested for even walking around the area where a protest was scheduled.

Right now, we can see that the situation is changing every day, and we’re trying to figure out things like, “How can we pay for foreign goods if the bank doesn’t work?” Or, “What are we going to do with these publications, university admissions, and conferences that we’ve been rejected from because we are Russians?”

For example, we can’t access Zoom. And other specialised apps, like Matlab (a programming and computing platform) and Coursera (an online course platform). Also, prices for some ordinary things, like cosmetics and food, have doubled, but in many cases, we have no alternative because there are no factories here that produce those products.

I have a colleague in my laboratory who is a reviewer at an open access science publisher. Now, those who want to publish and are affiliated with Russia have been asked to withhold applications, though they have not yet been officially withdrawn.

The same thing with conferences – international
events that take place in Moscow are all cancelled.

It’s affected me. I was planning to publish this month. And we’re seeing products disappear from shelves – rice, flour, sugar, canned food – but I guess that’s really just because of mass panic. I have never seen empty shelves in stores in the centre before. Yesterday, I couldn’t buy contact lenses because they ran out in the store where I would normally buy them. It seems like it will close – I saw employees removing shelves and emptying boxes, and the light was turned off.

There aren’t long lines at ATMs any more, but we saw them a few days ago. Right now, we cannot withdraw other currencies at ATMs until September.


I was thinking about leaving Russia, but there is the problem of money – ticket prices have increased tenfold, and also, there’s no one waiting for me over there.

It’s hard to differentiate global problems from everyday ones, as you can see. But to combat the anxiety, we try to remember our connections with friends and family and enjoy the spring weather.

A photo of a sign that says the word world with a leaning L and D on an illustration of planet earth.

An anti-war painting by Tatyana* describes a feeling that the world has changed forever and that it is vanishing [Courtesy of the interviewee]

Tatyana*, 28, from Moscow, currently in Germany – ‘My parents can justify the war in their heads. I can’t understand why’

I’m OK, physically. Mentally, I’m a bit of a wreck, but I’m managing.

I moved to Germany last year to get my Master’s. However, my whole family is in Russia.

I was planning to go see my family right about this time, but it doesn’t seem possible any more. I mean – there is probably a way to go to Russia, but almost zero way for me to come back to study, and as a new semester is coming, I’m not risking it. I have a residency permit right now, but it expires in May. Because of everything escalating so rapidly, I’m anxious about whether I’ll have issues renewing it due to me being Russian.

Due to Russian cards getting blocked and Russia being disconnected from SWIFT(the international payment system), my family had to send me some money in advance, just in case, and I had to withdraw it really quickly before I lost access to it.

My family has already seen changes in prices. My sister was struggling to get baby products for my nephew because the prices skyrocketed. One of my brothers-in-law and my father will potentially lose their jobs because their businesses worked very closely with European businesses, and all of those lines of communication are closed off now.

We have a distant relative who lives in southern Ukraine. Their town has been directly affected, so we are worried about them. Right now, they are relatively safe, but it’s a constant worry for my family.

We are all affected mentally, scared, and stressed. I’ve been struggling with my mental health for months and everything that’s happening is affecting that a lot.

I’m against the war, and most of my friends and people I know feel the same way. These are mostly people around my age with the same level of education. However, when it comes to family, I, unfortunately, do have a conflict with my parents. This has been pretty hard as we have very different views.

I can’t even really tell why they believe what they believe. It could be their Soviet past, or the government propaganda that has been poured out for so many years, or just that there is too much fear and anxiety to actually allow the thought that the world is different from what they expect. Regardless, I’m having a pretty hard time with it. Being far away from them helps because we try to prioritise keeping our relationship intact and caring for each other more than anything. Sometimes I can’t help but try to convince them, which obviously doesn’t work. For the record, they don’t support the war in general, they do want it to stop; however, they can justify it in their heads somehow.


A closed H&M shop on Avtozavodskaya Street in Moscow
A shuttered H&M shop on Avtozavodskaya Street in Moscow [Courtesy of an interviewee]


Kira*, 20, Moscow – ‘I don’t want to live in isolation here’
It’s true that all my favourite shops like H&M, Bershka, and P&B are closed. I’m a little bit upset because of this. However, I have my favourite Russian showrooms, so the spring collection will be great, too.

I just bought an iPhone. It was three days before the inflation. It was rather cheap, but now I want to buy AirPods and they’re really expensive. They were 7,000 roubles and now cost more than 14,000 roubles.

My friend was going to be a trainee at an international magazine publisher, but they stopped working in Russia on his first day there. As for me, I’m involved in the sports industry. I’m sure you know about the FIVB world volleyball championship 2022 which was planned in Russia. It won’t be in Russia, now. It’s like having your legs cut out from under you. It’s shocking. How do you live without the thing you were living for?

I got a government email saying that we had until March 14 to download all files from Instagram. After that, it wouldn’t work. TikTok isn’t available either. We have VK (a Russian substitute for Facebook), but it’s not the same.

I can’t even look at the word “Telegram” any more, it was on every story on Instagram. People were linking to new Telegram channels because Instagram is no longer working, saying, “Let’s keep in touch” or “This is my last story, see you on TG.”


Most of my friends say that our government is awful. I don’t support that view, but I do think we need some changes.

There were rallies against the war. But the older generations are for our president. One of my friends is against our government while her grandmother supports them, and I know that’s caused a quarrel between them.

My feelings are mixed regarding the decision of our president.

I want peace, but my grandmother thinks our military is needed to protect Russians in eastern Ukraine. Also, my neighbour is from western Ukraine. She supports our president, despite the fact that her whole family is still over there. When I hear it from Ukrainian people, I begin to doubt that our president’s strategy is wrong. Maybe Putin and his people know more and it’s really all justified. I hope so, and I hope they’ll stop it soon.



The situation in our economy isn’t good today. Our president should care about us, about his people. What about my future? I don’t want to live in isolation here.

I really cannot understand why Russians don’t have the right to eat in McDonald’s. Of course, that may be a strange example, but I just mean those of us who are against war still suffer from it.

A photo of an illustration of a sketch with a person going through a maze on the left and text that reads Military Operation which has been crossed out and the words WAR in Ukraine below it.

An anti-war sketch made by Katya, which shows text saying “Military operation” as crossed out, while under “War in Ukraine”, in brackets, is written “Road to nowhere” [Courtesy of Katya]


Katya, 21, Moscow – ‘I don’t attend protests. It’s too scary, the idea of dying or being locked up for life’
Most of the sanctions seem strange to me. The heads of government started this horror, but prohibitions and sanctions have been imposed on ordinary people. Closing ordinary stores and removing some food from shops is illogical. Why take away even something insignificant from ordinary people? We’re in deep s*** already. The world hates us all, that’s already enough.

As for me, personally, I lost the opportunity to move into my own apartment, which I was supposed to do soon because the renovations became too expensive. Because of this, I will have to live for a long time in a place where I’m not very comfortable.


I can do without access to the blocked social media platforms. But many Russians are being deprived not only of a meaningless feed with entertaining content, but also of memories, work, and also important and truthful information about what is happening, which can’t be obtained from a zombie box (television). They blatantly lie to us on there.

Where I am, people typically express their opinion at rallies, on social networks and among their inner circle. Usually, people will spread the word about protests secretly. But everyone who wants to participate can easily find out about it. For example, in certain online communities, they’ll just post a single number (indicating a date) and everyone understands everything. But I don’t feel safe expressing my opinion, especially when I talk about it online or on the phone. I don’t attend protests. It’s too scary, the idea of dying or being locked up for life. Plus, I can see that despite many years of huge protests, the people have not achieved anything at all. The government doesn’t need the people.

The majority of the people in Russia are against the war. Many shout about it openly, but it doesn’t end in anything good. We really want to help, but we haven’t been able to solve problems even in our own country, and now requests are flying around that we stop the war in another country. Trust me, we’re still trying. We write about it on social networks, sign petitions, send money, go to rallies, but so far this hasn’t yielded any results, the government only hits us with a truncheon.

And, well, if you really want to throw anger at someone, shout at least that Putin is an a****** and his retinue, and not ordinary citizens. What have we to do with it?


As told to Delaney Nolan.
Edited and condensed for clarity and length.
*Names have been changed at the interviewees’ request.


SOURCE: AL JAZEERA



 

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In the context of this conversation, we may also have to ask on what people living in the west are not being told.





 

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Vladimir Putin in ‘better shape than ever,’ Belarus’ Lukashenko gushes
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The doting dictator of Belarus offered effusive praise of his pal Vladimir Putin, saying the Russian leader is in “better shape than ever” despite reports he’s in a diminished mental state.
Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko painted the flattering picture of his ally in an interview with the Japanese television channel TBS that comes amid Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine.
“He and I haven’t only met as heads of state, we’re on friendly terms,” Lukashenko said. “I’m absolutely privy to all his details, as far as possible, both state and personal.”
Putin’s army used Belarus as a staging ground for the northern ground invasion of Ukraine while troops crossed the Russian border to the country’s east.
Lukashenko dismissed assertions that Putin made a grave miscalculation trying to occupy Ukraine, as Russian troops experience heavy losses and still face strong resistance more than three weeks into the invasion.
“Putin is absolutely fit, he’s in better shape than ever … This is a completely sane, healthy person, physically healthy — he’s an athlete.”
“As they say here — he’ll catch a cold at all our funerals.”
FILE - In this file pool photo taken on Monday, Aug. 3, 2009, the then Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin ia seen riding a horse while traveling in the mountains of the Siberian Tyva region (also referred to as Tuva), Russia, during his short vacation. After 18 years as Russia’s leader _ and with another six-year term sure to follow a March election _ Putin doesn’t show the appetites or vulnerabilities that can personalize Western politics, even when staged or spun. If he has moments of merriment or melancholy, they happen in private. (Alexei Druzhinin, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP, file) Then-Russian Prime Minister Putin made headlines when he rode a horse shirtless in 2009.Alexei Druzhinin, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP
Lukashenko, who calls himself “Europe’s last dictator” also called the collapse of the Soviet Union “a tragedy” and said Ukraine, a former Soviet territory, is an “inalienable part” of Russia.
“While the USSR existed, the world was multipolar and one pole balanced the other,” he said. “Now the reason for what’s happening in the world is unipolarity – the monopolization of our planet by the United States of America.”
The comments came after President Joe Biden labeled Putin a “war criminal,” “pure thug” and “murderous dictator.”
In this file photo taken on Thursday, Nov. 30, 2017, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, left, greets Russian President Vladimir Putin during the Collective Security Council of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) summit in Minsk, Belarus. Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko is known for being a bootlicker to Russia’s Vladimir Putin.Tatyana Zenkovich, Pool Photo via AP, File
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Igor Kalbukhov made the remarks during an interview with broadcaster FTV on Thursday. He noted that the country is free to join the 30-member alliance but that Moscow would respond, Euractiv reported.
"If (Bosnia and Herzegovina) decides to be a member of any alliance, that is an internal matter," he said. "Our response is a different matter. Ukraine’s example shows what we expect. Should there be any threat, we will respond."

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Kalbukhov then accused the West of stoking division and tensions by claiming Russia is preparing "a plan."
"We do not have any plans. We will respond having analyzed the strategic and geopolitical situation," the ambassador said. NATO membership is not a reality for BiH given the current lack of consensus on the matter in the country, he added.
Moscow has vehemently opposed a NATO expansion, particularly with nations it shares borders with. A day after the Kremlin launched its invasion of Ukraine, Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova issued a warning to Finland and Sweden.
"Finland and Sweden should not base their security on damaging the security of other countries and their accession to NATO can have detrimental consequences and face some military and political consequences," she said in a video clip.
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"I think we are really well prepared. We have one of the best armies in Europe. We have a really strong defense. We have really good international partners," he said. "We are not in a position that we would get scared because of one statement. There's nothing new. That's the old Russian position."
 

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US, Ukraine quietly try to pierce Putin’s propaganda bubble

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FILE - Russian President Vladimir Putin chairs a meeting with members of the government via teleconference in Moscow, Thursday, March 10, 2022. (Mikhail Klimentyev, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP, File)

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. and Ukraine have knocked back Russian President Vladimir Putin’s efforts to falsely frame the narrative of his brutal war, but they are struggling to get a more accurate view of the Kremlin’s invasion in front of the Russian people.

While the Russian military suffers thousands of deaths and fails to capture key cities, Putin is intensifying his two-decade crackdown on information. The Kremlin has shut down Russia’s last three independent media outlets, barred major social media platforms, created new laws against journalists who defy its propaganda and insisted on calling the war a “special military operation.”

The result is a Russian public with little to no access to any alternative to Putin’s own anti-Ukraine, anti-Western narrative. It’s a heat shield for Putin against any backlash to the war and Western sanctions that have crippled Russia’s economy.


 

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Russia isn't the only one shutting down censorship and opposition news. This was even before the conflict taking place between the two countries.

Ukraine: President bans opposition media Strana.ua and sanctions editor-in-chief
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyj last week banned the opposition media news site Strana.ua and imposed sanctions on its editor-in-chief, Ihor Huzhva. Lawyers have criticised these measures for their “lack of legal basis”. This decision comes only six months after closing down three TV channels in early 2021. The European Federation of Journalists (EFJ) joined its affiliate in Ukraine, the National Union of Journalists of Ukraine (NUJU), in calling this extrajudicial action a threat to press freedom and media pluralism in the country.

On 21 August 2021, it was revealed that President Volodymyr Zelenskyj banned Strana.ua, one of the largest news sites in Ukraine, by decree. The authorities also announced sanctions against the outlet’s editor-in-chief, who has been living in Austrian exile since 2018.

The authorities cited the protection of national security and based the ban on a submission by the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU), which described Strana.ua journalists as “pro-Russian propagandists”. SBU head Ivan Bakanov said the measures were taken to protect the “information space”. Strana.ua is one of the few remaining opposition media in Ukraine.

President of the National Union of Journalists of Ukraine (NUJU) Sergiy Tomilenko reacted: “The extrajudicial blocking of opposition news media is a waiver of the legal safeguards of press independence.”

The editorial team of Strana.ua said in a letter that the actions by the Ukrainian government are “illegal” and that they are hoping international journalists will raise the topic of censorship against their media outlet.

Strana’s editor-in-chief Huzhva said he will continue his work despite the blocking: “It doesn’t matter. Under (former Ukrainian President) Poroshenko, I was put in prison. Under Zelenskyj, the website is blocked.” The website already moved to a new domain: strana.news.

EFJ General Secretary Ricardo Gutiérrez said: “In a democratic country, media-related concerns must be addressed in a legal way that also ensures media pluralism. We call on the Ukrainian authorities to find better, judicial solutions to alleged national security threats.”
 

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What I like to know from the Russian people is the reason behind the war with Germany which led to 27 million deaths in WWII. The genocide that occurred with the Jews is easy to identify as an ethnic cleansing. They would be more compliant and not have weapons to defend themselves since they were under control of the German government. Many people are unaware that Russians were considered a lower tier, subject to Germanic expansion.

Let say whites or Asians wanted to ethnically cleanse African Americans, we would not have the weaponry or military to defend ourselves; this would easy to identify as a genocide. Another scenario, the U.S. or the EU wanted to colonize an African or Caribbean country based on a belief on being a superior race, the African country would have a military resulting in a conflict with significant casualties. Would this be a genocide? Yes...

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Let say Germany took this ideology to other countries, the people would fight to defend themselves since they had the weapons. It would look like a conflict between two countries, even though one is looking to expand its superior race into Russia. I would consider the 27 million deaths as Holocaust, which the ICC did not consider.

If you look up the reason online, you will get garbage, Hitler's Mein Kampf spelled out his intent. This could help people gain a better understanding of Russia over reaction and response.
 
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