Israel Declares War After Hamas Attacks

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governing is the province of a nation state... as you just stated there is no Palestinian state and Isreal will not allow one to be formed

so...

1. in reality, if not on paper, the PA exists to administrate parts of the west bank for Isreal...
2. current leadership of PA is corrupt and very strongly incentivised to keep working for Isreal


are you aware that Hamas and other resistance groups are operating in the West Bank too?
are you aware that factions of Fatah (PA) are conducting resistance missions in Gaza in coordination with the other organisations?
I'm really not sure what point you are trying to make anymore. Or how you are trying to object to mine.

Hamas and other groups operate in West Bank. PA operates in Gaza. Yes...

Do Hamas and PA officially work together for the betterment of all Palestinian people and towards the creation of the state of Palestine?

Sadly the answer is no.
 

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That tactical pause that they declared today must be related to the death of those 8 soldiers.

One thing 4 sure they're taking a beating beyond whatever they could have imagined when entering the Gaza strip !
I saw a report that it was 10 but likely 12


Probably to much for them in one day


(dude say they confirmed 12 dead)
 
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Was thinking the same thing watched that Putin's interview where he talked about delivering weapons to Yemen
Dawg, I was been pose to show you this


Saw this a couple days after we had this discussion


I busted out laughing when I saw it…. Like these fuckers be watching our threads on bgol

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Who controlled Gaza before Hamas?


Egypt

Following the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Egyptadministered the newly formed Gaza Strip. It was captured by Israel in the Six-Day War in 1967. Between 1994 and 1999, Israel transferred security and civilian responsibility for much of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank to the Palestinian Authority.
 

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What do Palestinians think of Hamas?
Among other notable findings, the survey found: About 23% of respondents said they have a great deal or quite a lot of trust in Hamas; 52% had no trust at all in Hamas. Nearly 80% believed the economic situation in Gaza and the West Bank is bad or very bad.Dec 5, 2023


What percent of Palestine supports Hamas?
A poll conducted in March 2024 by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, a think tank based in the West Bank, revealed that almost three-quarters [PDF] (71 percent) of Palestinians living in Gaza still supported Hamas's decision to launch the October 7 attacks—up from 57 percent in December 2023.3 days ago
 

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Why did Israel give up Gaza?
The motivation behind the disengagement was described by Sharon's top aide as a means of isolating Gaza and avoiding international pressure on Israel to reach a political settlement with the Palestinians. The disengagement plan was implemented in August 2005 and completed in September 2005.
 

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Was Palestine a country before Israel was created?


While the State of Israel was established on 15 May 1948 and admitted to the United Nations, a Palestinian State was not established. The remaining territories of pre-1948 Palestine, the West Bank - including East Jerusalem- and Gaza Strip, were administered from 1948 till 1967 by Jordan and Egypt, respectively.
 

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Just was doing a little question and answer on google….


That last post is very interesting, if you ask me the roles should be opposite. just on that strength, the Palestinians should be going hard on the Israeli.
 

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What is Hamas when and why was it founded?


Hamas was founded by Palestinian imam and activist Ahmed Yassin in 1987, after the outbreak of the First Intifada against the Israeli occupation. It emerged from his 1973 Mujama al-Islamiya Islamic charity affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.
 

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Why is Hamas attacking Israel?


Hamas has stated that its attack was in response to the blockade of the Gaza Strip, the expansion of illegal Israeli settlements, rising Israeli settler violence and recent escalations at Al-Aqsa.
 

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How many Palestinians were held without charges?


However, even with those hundreds of Palestinians released, the overall number of Palestinians taken into Israeli custody has increased since the start of the war, including around 2,500 who are held without any formal charges under a policy known as administrative detention.Dec 1, 2023
 

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“The Houthis said they attacked a US destroyer off the coast of Yemen.
Also attacked were 2 merchant ships related to deliveries to Israel.

We are waiting for the results of the attack.”
 

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“Houthis saying they hit something big”


Guess we will hear what they talking about soon
 

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Looks like they have boat drones. :eek2: This was the attack on that tanker 3 days ago

Them unmanned boat and drones will cause havoc out there
Man don’t even look like dude had a clip in it….


But my post was about some in the sky
 

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The Houthis run the Red Sea Neither the Americans nor the Europeans have been able to stop them. Imagine if the Houthis get Zircon missiles and lancet drones
 

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U.S. carrier captain says Houthis are trying to ‘inspire themselves through misinformation’ with false claims of hitting his ship​

By — Jon Gambrell, Associated Press
Jun 17, 2024 2:53 PM EDT
ABOARD THE USS DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER IN THE RED SEA (AP) — The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower may be one of the oldest aircraft carriers in the U.S. Navy, but it's still fighting — despite repeated false claims by Yemen's Houthi rebels.

The Houthis and social media accounts supporting them repeatedly have falsely claimed they hit or even sank the carrier in the Red Sea. The carrier leads the U.S. response to the rebels' targeting of commercial vessels and warships in the crucial waterway — attacks the Houthis say are aimed at bringing an end to the Israel-Hamas war in the Gaza Strip.

The Eisenhower's leader, Capt. Christopher "Chowdah" Hill, is creatively striking back on social media to counter the misinformation — and boost the morale of the ship's 5,000 personnel — as the Navy faces its most intense combat since World War II.

"I think it's been about two or three times in the past six months we've allegedly been sunk, which we have not been," Hill told The Associated Press during a recent visit to the carrier. "It is almost comical at this point. They're attempting to maybe inspire themselves through misinformation, but it doesn't work on us."

The visit by two AP journalists and others to the Eisenhower represents part of the effort the Navy has made to try to counter the Houthi claims. While on board for about a day and a half, journalists escorted by sailors crisscrossed the nuclear-powered ship's 1,092-foot (332-meter) length. AP journalists also repeatedly circled the Eisenhower from the air in a Seahawk helicopter.
Other than rust on its side from the hot, humid Red Sea air and water apparently leaking from a pipe in a dining room, the ship appeared no worse for wear. Its flight deck bore no blast damage or gaping holes, just the stink of jet fuel, pooled puddles of oily water and the scream of engines before its F/A-18 fighter jets took flight.

The other half of the information warfare effort has been Hill himself, a native of Quincy, Massachusetts, something noticeable immediately in his South Boston accent. While even the secretive leader of the Houthis, Abdul Malik al-Houthi, has name-dropped the carrier in speeches while making false claims about the vessel, Hill has offered ceaselessly positive messages online about his sailors on board.

Videos of flight operations from the bridge and images of sailors eating cookies in the captain's chair are constant staple. After one false Houthi claim, Hill responded by posting images of cinnamon rolls and muffins in the bakery on board the Eisenhower — a subtle jab at the claims.

"The whole intent of the social media outreach was to connect with families, to bring them closer to the ship," Hill said. "So if I can post pictures of sons and daughters, husbands and wives out here, or even fathers and mothers, get it out there, it just kind of brings the family closer to us. And again, that's our support network. But it also took on another role because everyone else was watching to see what we're doing."

Then there's the "Star Wars" memes and images of Captain Demo, the Labrador-golden retriever mix who roams the ship as a support animal for sailors. And as far as the Houthi forces watching his postings, Hill takes special pleasure in writing about "Taco Tuesday" on the ship.

"We're going to celebrate 'Taco Tuesdays' because it's my absolute favorite day of the week. That will never end," the captain said. "If you call that an information warfare campaign, you can. It's just who I am, you know, at the end of the day."

But morale remains a deep concern for Hill and other leaders on board the ship. The Eisenhower and its allied ships have gotten just one short port call during the eight-month rotation so far to Greece. The carrier also has been the most-deployed carrier among the entire U.S. fleet over the last five years, according to an analysis by the U.S. Naval Institute's news service.

One sailor, Lt. Joseph Hirl from Raleigh, North Carolina, wore a patch reading: "Go Navy, Beat Houthis." While that's a play on the classic call for the annual Army-Navy football game, the naval flight officer stressed that he knew the combat was deadly serious.
"It's pretty much the day-in, day-out stress of knowing that we are being shot at definitely gives a realism to the whole experience that this is not a normal deployment," Hirl said.

Meanwhile, munitions also remain a concern. Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro told the U.S. Senate's Armed Services Committee in May the Navy had spent at least $1 billion in armaments to fight in the Red Sea. Every leader on board the Eisenhower that the AP spoke to acknowledged the Navy was trying to use the right weapon against the Houthis, whose asymmetrical warfare sees them use far cheaper munitions.

"My sailors, my ships are priceless — that's not a calculus I want a captain to have," said Capt. David Wroe, the commodore overseeing the guided missile destroyers escorting the Eisenhower. "Now, using the appropriate effect weapon system on the appropriate threat to preserve magazine depth, to have more missiles, is certainly a germane tactical question."

For now, the Eisenhower continues its patrol along with the USS Philippine Sea, a cruiser, and two destroyers, the USS Gravely and the USS Mason. It's been extended twice already and there's always the chance it could happen again. But Hill said his sailors remained ready to fight and he remained ready to continue to captain in his style.

"I came to a revelation at some point in my career that, one of the things that all humans require is to be loved and valued," Hill said. "So I shouldn't be afraid, as a leader, to try to love and value everybody, and also to expect other leaders that I'm responsible for to love and value their sailors."
 

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