Israel Declares War After Hamas Attacks
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I’m surprised they actually showed this
powerful explosion sends one D9 bulldozer upside down !
Biden accused of ‘pressuring’ Israel to reconsider banning UN refugee body
The Israeli Knesset is set to debate a bill to sever ties with the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) - but not before US Ambassador Jacob Lew has urged Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister Netanyahu, to halt the legislation, Fox News have reported.
"There is a difference between dialogue and pressure," Knesset member Yulia Malinovsky said about the alleged interference from the ambassador.
The proposed bill would end diplomatic relations and services provided by Israel to UNRWA
The Israeli Knesset is set to debate a bill to sever ties with the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) - but not before US Ambassador Jacob Lew has urged Israeli leaders, including Prime Minister Netanyahu, to halt the legislation, Fox News have reported.
"There is a difference between dialogue and pressure," Knesset member Yulia Malinovsky said about the alleged interference from the ambassador.
The proposed bill would end diplomatic relations and services provided by Israel to UNRWA
Damn a double tap
Kinfolk serious about that sitting and talking methodThat's your plan? Seriously?
While Bibi and em have planned to take land from the ones he want to Facilitate the talks.
Who will tell the Israelis to sit and talk.
These fucks killed the Hamas guy that was working on a ceasefire aka “sitting down and talking” wtf….
The UN seem fucking powerless toward anything with Israel. Washington have the money and veto power.
The International Criminal Court hands are tied because Washington threatened to place sanctions on family members of those who place arrest warrants for Bibi
European nations France spoke about limiting arms then Washington said that won’t be good(or maybe Bibi said that)
I will ask again, how do YOU think the previous conflicts ended???That's your plan? Seriously?
Kinfolk serious about that sitting and talking method
While Bibi and em have planned to take land from the ones he want to Facilitate the talks.
Who will tell the Israelis to sit and talk.
These fucks killed the Hamas guy that was working on a ceasefire aka “sitting down and talking” wtf….
The UN seem fucking powerless toward anything with Israel. Washington have the money and veto power.
The International Criminal Court hands are tied because Washington threatened to place sanctions on family members of those who place arrest warrants for Bibi
European nations France spoke about limiting arms then Washington said that won’t be good(or maybe Bibi said that)
How do you think the previous conflicts ended?
It's like you guys refuse to realize that the longer the military conflict continues, the more the Palestinian people pay the price.
Seem like there were agreements
Lmao, who don’t know the longer a war goes on the more people die
Normally it not civilians getting murked
Ukraine
Civilian deathsBy 30 September 2024, OHCHR had recorded 36,357 civilian casualties in Ukraine since February 24, 2022: 11,973 killed and 25,943 injured, but said they believe the real number is higher.
How many people have died in Gaza?
The Swedish University of Uppsala, through its database on armed conflict, has identified over 30,000 deaths in Gaza between October 2023 and May 2024 – figures comparable to those of the Ministry of Health.Oct 13, 2024
Now I think that civilians deaths is well over 100k…. To many bulldozers roaming and buildings not cleared out
This ain't then. Israel is run by hardliners and warhawks right now. They want this to continue. Bibi goes to jail whenever he has to step down, he knows this. This ain't about Hamas because Hamas doesn't operate in The West Bank and they've lowkey invaded the West Bank as well. The UN can't stop Bibi from killing international workers, you think they have the leverage to get them to stand down from Gaza?
Why Hamas has to surrender?
When they are operating in their own territories.
Im in my fucking house but I have to obey you and give up my protection…
One of the first convos I had with a Palestinian in the Old City of Jerusalem used a similar analogy but she said a house. Admittedly I went in being a bit ignorant but nailed it. She said the Nakba in 1948 was like someone coming into your house, taking it over by force, and then telling you you're allowed to live in the attic. What would you do?
And fast forward to today, Now they telling you, leave the attic
You ask and go where, they say I don’t care but just to stay on the street, only to tell you to leave the streets a couple months later
I never understood the mindset. Did they think they were just gonna live in an open-air prison forever? I didn't even go to Gaza, but I saw how people lived in The West Bank and knew it wasn't sustainable. Gaza is WAY worse than The West Bank
so seem like the international community can’t get thru to Israel
Seem like Bibi always changing the deal… even folks on his side said its stupid to hold up the ceasefire becuase of the Philadelphia Corridor, when they can always go back. Hamas won’t be able to keep them from going back
Reuters
Israel issued a relocation order for southern Gaza's Khan Younis residents on Sunday, following a deadly air strike on a school in Gaza City
In a statement on Sunday night, the group called on mediators “to present a plan to implement what was agreed upon by the movement on July 2, 2024, based on [President Joe] Biden's vision and the UN Security Council resolution”.
On 2 July, Hamas issued its response to the outline ceasefire plan announced by Mr Biden on 30 May.
The details of Hamas’s response have not been made public but the group is understood to have dropped a demand for a full ceasefire at the outset rather than an initial six-week pause put forward by the president.
Negotiations resumed a week later, with Hamas accusing Israel of introducing new conditions.
Hamas sources told the BBC that the introduction of the new conditions - that displaced Palestinians should be screened as they return to the north of Gaza, as well as the question of control of the Philadelphi corridor that borders Egypt - have been sticking points.
It has also been widely reported in the Israeli press that these new demands were made by Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and that they have caused friction with his negotiating team.
Last week, international mediators from Qatar, Egypt and the US urged Israel and Hamas to resume urgent discussions on the ceasefire and hostage release deal on 15 August.
The mediators said they were prepared to offer a bridging proposal to overcome differences on the implementation of Mr Biden's framework agreement.
Israel responded on Thursday, saying it would send a team of negotiators to take part in the meeting.
Hamas rejected any new proposals, but the BBC understands that the group is open to resuming talks at the point prior to which the new conditions were introduced.
On Monday, the leaders of the UK, France and Germany issued a joint call for talks to resume, saying there "can be no further delay".
UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz echoed the mediators' call for ceasefire talks to resume in a joint statement.
"We agree that there can be no further delay," the statement said.
"We have been working with all parties to prevent escalation and will spare no effort to reduce tensions and find a path to stability."
The countries also called for the de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East - which have risen since the assassination of senior members of Hamas and Lebanese group Hezbollah.
US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin confirmed on Sunday night that he had ordered the deployment of a guided missile submarine to the Middle East which will join the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, which is heading to the region.
Iran previously said it will respond to the killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh at the “right time” in the "appropriate" manner and that the US bears responsibility for his death because of its support of Israel.
Iran has blamed Israel for the assassination, though Israel has not commented directly.
Aftermath of Israeli strike on Gaza City school
Meanwhile on Sunday, the Israeli military ordered thousands of Palestinians in Khan Younis, southern Gaza, to relocate to what it has designated "humanitarian zones".
The relocation order followed an Israeli air strike against a school building in Gaza on Saturday, which killed more than 70 people according to a local hospital director.
Fadl Naeem, head of al-Ahli Hospital where many of the casualties were taken, said around 70 victims were identified in the hours after the strike - with the remains of many others so badly disfigured that identification was difficult.
A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said the school "served as an active Hamas and Islamic Jihad military facility", which Hamas denies.
IDF spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said “various intelligence indications” suggest a “high probability” that the commander of Islamic Jihad’s Central Camps Brigade, Ashraf Juda, was at al-Taba’een school school when it was struck.
He said it is not yet clear whether the commander was killed in the attack.
The BBC cannot independently verify casualty figures from either side.
Israel claims that Hamas is using civilian infrastructure to plan and carry out attacks, and that is why it has been targeting hospitals and schools - sites protected under international law.
Hamas has consistently denied the accusations.
Hamas-led gunmen killed about 1,200 people in an attack on Israel on 7 October, taking 251 others back to Gaza as hostages.
That attack triggered a massive Israeli military offensive against Gaza and the current war.
At least 39,897 Palestinians have been killed in the Israeli campaign, according to Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry.
Seem like Bibi always changing the deal… even folks on his side said its stupid to hold up the ceasefire becuase of the Philadelphia Corridor, when they can always go back. Hamas won’t be able to keep them from going back
Hamas says ceasefire must be based on group’s July response
12 August 2024
Reuters
Israel issued a relocation order for southern Gaza's Khan Younis residents on Sunday, following a deadly air strike on a school in Gaza City
In a statement on Sunday night, the group called on mediators “to present a plan to implement what was agreed upon by the movement on July 2, 2024, based on [President Joe] Biden's vision and the UN Security Council resolution”.
On 2 July, Hamas issued its response to the outline ceasefire plan announced by Mr Biden on 30 May.
The details of Hamas’s response have not been made public but the group is understood to have dropped a demand for a full ceasefire at the outset rather than an initial six-week pause put forward by the president.
Negotiations resumed a week later, with Hamas accusing Israel of introducing new conditions.
Hamas sources told the BBC that the introduction of the new conditions - that displaced Palestinians should be screened as they return to the north of Gaza, as well as the question of control of the Philadelphi corridor that borders Egypt - have been sticking points.
It has also been widely reported in the Israeli press that these new demands were made by Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and that they have caused friction with his negotiating team.
Last week, international mediators from Qatar, Egypt and the US urged Israel and Hamas to resume urgent discussions on the ceasefire and hostage release deal on 15 August.
The mediators said they were prepared to offer a bridging proposal to overcome differences on the implementation of Mr Biden's framework agreement.
Israel responded on Thursday, saying it would send a team of negotiators to take part in the meeting.
Hamas rejected any new proposals, but the BBC understands that the group is open to resuming talks at the point prior to which the new conditions were introduced.
On Monday, the leaders of the UK, France and Germany issued a joint call for talks to resume, saying there "can be no further delay".
UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz echoed the mediators' call for ceasefire talks to resume in a joint statement.
"We agree that there can be no further delay," the statement said.
"We have been working with all parties to prevent escalation and will spare no effort to reduce tensions and find a path to stability."
The countries also called for the de-escalation of tensions in the Middle East - which have risen since the assassination of senior members of Hamas and Lebanese group Hezbollah.
US Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin confirmed on Sunday night that he had ordered the deployment of a guided missile submarine to the Middle East which will join the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, which is heading to the region.
Iran previously said it will respond to the killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh at the “right time” in the "appropriate" manner and that the US bears responsibility for his death because of its support of Israel.
Iran has blamed Israel for the assassination, though Israel has not commented directly.
Aftermath of Israeli strike on Gaza City school
Meanwhile on Sunday, the Israeli military ordered thousands of Palestinians in Khan Younis, southern Gaza, to relocate to what it has designated "humanitarian zones".
The relocation order followed an Israeli air strike against a school building in Gaza on Saturday, which killed more than 70 people according to a local hospital director.
Fadl Naeem, head of al-Ahli Hospital where many of the casualties were taken, said around 70 victims were identified in the hours after the strike - with the remains of many others so badly disfigured that identification was difficult.
A spokesman for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said the school "served as an active Hamas and Islamic Jihad military facility", which Hamas denies.
IDF spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said “various intelligence indications” suggest a “high probability” that the commander of Islamic Jihad’s Central Camps Brigade, Ashraf Juda, was at al-Taba’een school school when it was struck.
He said it is not yet clear whether the commander was killed in the attack.
The BBC cannot independently verify casualty figures from either side.
Israel claims that Hamas is using civilian infrastructure to plan and carry out attacks, and that is why it has been targeting hospitals and schools - sites protected under international law.
Hamas has consistently denied the accusations.
Hamas-led gunmen killed about 1,200 people in an attack on Israel on 7 October, taking 251 others back to Gaza as hostages.
That attack triggered a massive Israeli military offensive against Gaza and the current war.
At least 39,897 Palestinians have been killed in the Israeli campaign, according to Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry.
Exactly, there's never any military knockouts. Its always agreements then end the conflicts.
Are "people" dying?Lmao, who don’t know the longer a war goes on the more people die
Normally it not civilians getting murked
Ukraine
Civilian deathsBy 30 September 2024, OHCHR had recorded 36,357 civilian casualties in Ukraine since February 24, 2022: 11,973 killed and 25,943 injured, but said they believe the real number is higher.
How many people have died in Gaza?
The Swedish University of Uppsala, through its database on armed conflict, has identified over 30,000 deaths in Gaza between October 2023 and May 2024 – figures comparable to those of the Ministry of Health.Oct 13, 2024
Now I think that civilians deaths is well over 100k…. To many bulldozers roaming and buildings not cleared out
Or are only Palestinian civilians dying?
Yes people dying but if you listen to certain folks they all Hamas supports even the in workers
Ummmm seem like
The Lebanon conflicts stopped when Israelis couldn’t move forward whch cause an agreement
But I’m go see if that’s an accurate assessment by me
The numbers are not even comparable.Yes people dying but if you listen to certain folks they all Hamas supports even the in workers
Why do you think people are calling it a genocide?
Because Bibi & Biden have killed more old ladies and babies than they killed Hamas fighters via bombing, starvation and no medical aid
Trying to Cleansing Palestine of Palestinians so Europeans can live there is genocide to me.
And technically who is a Hamas fight?
Also my question to you if all of these agreements have but established, why are these Palestinians steady getting killed or arrested, their land being inched away day by day… like how is this possible
Yes I agree that's what I'm saying its Palestinian civilians are dying. No distinction is being made at all. How much longer do they want this to go on?
I keep telling y'all Bibi wants to keep this going.
Why does Hamas?
It's way past time to get to the agreements part.
If we believe them or not Hamas said they got enough firepower to fight another two years….
Idk
but what we are seeing is an increase of the sophistication of their strikes along with an increaseHamas apparently Activated a next phase that’s been causing terror among the Israelis population. Definitely not on the same scale tho.
For as the agreement, Hamas has stated a number of times they are willing to agree to what was put forward on July 2…
(That’s if those reports are honest)
Sooooo it’s really on Bibi like you said.
Him and his crew got a Viagra infused hard on about the expansion of Israel. They ain’t about to cut the vein to let the pressure off either
Hamas said they liked the ceasefire, they present to Bibi he change something
They go back to Hamas, they said this ain’t what we agreed to
The next Month Bibi killed dude in Iran
Iran get all kinda calls from the west not to do anything, please don’t response
Iran said if they agree to a ceasefire, we won’t response…
That’s when Blinken rush to the region, met with Bibi, hoping for an acceptance to July 2 proposal. Bibi told him go Fuck himself which was the reason he was sweating on camera, like a hooker in church
Bibi was even nervous as hell giving an interview when thinking about the heat Iran could send.
something else many of these people speak about but don’t keep it real
The Palestinian Authority runs the West Bank, the Israelis steady taking land from them. They steady arresting and doing what they want to those folks.
They have resistance there but I’m trying to paint a picture.
Everyone is some up in arms about who should governing Gaza after the conflict is over. “No way Hamas can be the ruling factor, Gaza needs to be free of Hamas”
But the people of Gaza elected Hamas as the rulers because they know the Palestinians Authority was weak and can be trusted. They knew Bibi would do whatever he wants to them.
So my question is why the fuck everyone gotta have a say so in WHO runs Gaza.
The Palestinians are very capable of running it.
The Palestinian Authority runs the West Bank, the Israelis steady taking land from them. They steady arresting and doing what they want to those folks.
They have resistance there but I’m trying to paint a picture.
Everyone is some up in arms about who should governing Gaza after the conflict is over. “No way Hamas can be the ruling factor, Gaza needs to be free of Hamas”
But the people of Gaza elected Hamas as the rulers because they know the Palestinians Authority was weak and can be trusted. They knew Bibi would do whatever he wants to them.
So my question is why the fuck everyone gotta have a say so in WHO runs Gaza.
The Palestinians are very capable of running it.