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Israel Declares War After Hamas Attacks. UPDATE: Israel Ends Ceasefire, Begins Bombing Gaza

My point is there is a lot of blame to go around. Too many people are presenting the Arabs as poor, innocent people that never did anything to anyone and had all this fall on them for no reason.

They all need to want to have peace for there to be peace. But neither side wants peace. They want victory.
 
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Big Tex said:
Israel seized Gaza after the Arabs attacked in the 6 day war though. So if Egypt hadn't attacked, they would still control Gaza. So both sides have been assholes.
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Big Tex said:
My point is there is a lot of blame to go around. Too many people are presenting the Arabs as poor, innocent people that never did anything to anyone and had all this fall on them for no reason.

They all need to want to have peace for there to be peace. But neither side wants peace. They want victory.
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Oh brother, don't tell me you're "both side"-sing this shit :confused::smh:

I'm honestly exhausted by all the fuckery going on here on Earth and didn't bother to tap in to see where my BGOL bruhs were on this shit but to read this kind of commentary from a dude like you is mad dissapointing lol.
 
sharkbait28 said:
Oh brother, don't tell me you're "both side"-sing this shit :confused::smh:

I'm honestly exhausted by all the fuckery going on here on Earth and didn't bother to tap in to see where my BGOL bruhs were on this shit but to read this kind of commentary from a dude like you is mad dissapointing lol.
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Yea him and @AllUniverse17 been both siding it and all lives mattering all thru this thread
 
sharkbait28 said:
Oh brother, don't tell me you're "both side"-sing this shit :confused::smh:

I'm honestly exhausted by all the fuckery going on here on Earth and didn't bother to tap in to see where my BGOL bruhs were on this shit but to read this kind of commentary from a dude like you is mad dissapointing lol.
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No. I'm saying Israel is an oppressor. I'm also saying killing kids and innocents is wrong.

You guys defending terrorism is wild.
 
Big Tex said:
No. I'm saying Israel is an oppressor. I'm also saying killing kids and innocents is wrong.

You guys defending terrorism is wild.
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Killing kids and innocents is bad, of course (also I hope you know that all the "baby beheaded" stuff was propaganda the likes of which we should be very familiar with here in the States post Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom etc). As for this notion of terrorism, especially given the context, I'd say that has nothing to do with reality. It's a WAR. It's been a war.

However skewed your view might be of this right now, just remember any and ALL efforts at freedom have been similarly bloody. It's also worth considering how effective the oppressed here against the oppressor. The data is available to you right now.

This shit is clear as day brother. Can't be someone who hated South African Apartheid pretending that this shit is any different just because it's drawing on your taxes.
 
sharkbait28 said:
Killing kids and innocents is bad, of course (also I hope you know that all the "baby beheaded" stuff was propaganda the likes of which we should be very familiar with here in the States post Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom etc). As for this notion of terrorism, especially given the context, I'd say that has nothing to do with reality. It's a WAR. It's been a war.

However skewed your view might be of this right now, just remember any and ALL efforts at freedom have been similarly bloody. It's also worth considering how effective the oppressed here against the oppressor. The data is available to you right now.

This shit is clear as day brother. Can't be someone who hated South African Apartheid pretending that this shit is any different just because it's drawing on your taxes.
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I never mentioned baby beheading. I'm talking about the Hamas bodycam videos showing them killing people at a rave, or shooting up homes.

You are 100 percent defending the actions of Hamas because of the occupation. And that's your right to do.

I don't support the occupation, and I don't support killing and raping people that were just living their lives. I don't support the brutal campaign the people of Gaza are and are about to go through.

I just don't see innocent hands in this conflict between Hamas and Israel.

So if it's a WAR, then let it be a war. You can't go into a country and behead innocent citizens then cry to the world that YOUR innocents are being killed. Even if you are oppressed.

I'm 100 percent for Gaza to be able to govern itself without Israeli oppression or involvement. But I'm not condoning herding people into a bomb shelter so you can throw grenades in there and blow their bodies to pieces either.
 
Big Tex said:
I never mentioned baby beheading. I'm talking about the Hamas bodycam videos showing them killing people at a rave, or shooting up homes.

You are 100 percent defending the actions of Hamas because of the occupation. And that's your right to do.

I don't support the occupation, and I don't support killing and raping people that were just living their lives. I don't support the brutal campaign the people of Gaza are and are about to go through.

I just don't see innocent hands in this conflict between Hamas and Israel.

So if it's a WAR, then let it be a war. You can't go into a country and behead innocent citizens then cry to the world that YOUR innocents are being killed. Even if you are oppressed.

I'm 100 percent for Gaza to be able to govern itself without Israeli oppression or involvement. But I'm not condoning herding people into a bomb shelter so you can throw grenades in there and blow their bodies to pieces either.
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Imma head out lol. Check out the Hedges article I posted earlier, it's very dated but still supremely relevant. Consider also... where was this Israeli rave held? Like literally in terms of distance. Where was it relative to the actual largest open air prison on Earth?

Americans are propagandized from when we literally emerge onto Earth. Literally. It's how anyone would look at Iran as a villain in our story compared to the actual facts on the ground (as just one example). There's no question that there's a clear aggressor here... and not just a clear aggressor... a clear aggressor that can only shift their weight around thanks to Big Bro.... and guess who's the big bro in this scenario?

Look man, I'm not guessing... I'm just dealing with facts, hope you can come around to reality eventually. Cheers,
 
AllUniverse17 said:
Go get my belt son.

Its funny that you think Twitter is a university that can give a degree. You ain't never met a Palestinian person in your life. You in here talking like you know something. Don't make me tell you what they really think about you son.
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You're wrong you dumbass plant. Go back to wherever you came.
 
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sharkbait28 said:
Imma head out lol. Check out the Hedges article I posted earlier, it's very dated but still supremely relevant. Consider also... where was this Israeli rave held? Like literally in terms of distance. Where was it relative to the actual largest open air prison on Earth?

Americans are propagandized from when we literally emerge onto Earth. Literally. It's how anyone would look at Iran as a villain in our story compared to the actual facts on the ground (as just one example). There's no question that there's a clear aggressor here... and not just a clear aggressor... a clear aggressor that can only shift their weight around thanks to Big Bro.... and guess who's the big bro in this scenario?

Look man, I'm not guessing... I'm just dealing with facts, hope you can come around to reality eventually. Cheers,
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Exactly. They are getting kidnapped from inside Palestinian territory. Talkin about " they support Palestine. You can't occupy and support Palestine simultaneously. Shit is so disenginuous trying to equate those two groups.
 
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sharkbait28 said:
Imma head out lol. Check out the Hedges article I posted earlier, it's very dated but still supremely relevant. Consider also... where was this Israeli rave held? Like literally in terms of distance. Where was it relative to the actual largest open air prison on Earth?

Americans are propagandized from when we literally emerge onto Earth. Literally. It's how anyone would look at Iran as a villain in our story compared to the actual facts on the ground (as just one example). There's no question that there's a clear aggressor here... and not just a clear aggressor... a clear aggressor that can only shift their weight around thanks to Big Bro.... and guess who's the big bro in this scenario?

Look man, I'm not guessing... I'm just dealing with facts, hope you can come around to reality eventually. Cheers,
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So you’re saying Hamas is 100 percent justified. I just don’t agree.

And that’s with agreeing that Israel is implementing oppressive apartheid on the Gazan.

I just don’t think any cause justifies killing innocents. But that’s just me.

And nowhere is my position pro-Israel. I’m anti killing of innocents.
 
Big Tex said:
So you’re saying Hamas is 100 percent justified. I just don’t agree.

And that’s with agreeing that Israel is implementing oppressive apartheid on the Gazan.

I just don’t think any cause justifies killing innocents. But that’s just me.

And nowhere is my position pro-Israel. I’m anti killing of innocents.
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I feel you, but you're just regurgitating propaganda right now homie. Use your big brain for a sec. Especially in the context of actual "innocents" killed.

Look at all this effort on your behalf to be conciliatory and big hearted and shit rn. Did you do so last year on behalf of Palestinians? Or the year before? Or the year before? Or before that? LOL.

There is an oppressor and and oppressed here for anyone interested in reality. Any dissembling about this stuff just speaks to how much propaganda has been levied against you successfuly imo.

Peace,
 
sharkbait28 said:
I feel you, but you're just regurgitating propaganda right now homie. Use your big brain for a sec. Especially in the context of actual "innocents" killed.

Look at all this effort on your behalf to be conciliatory and big hearted and shit rn. Did you do so last year on behalf of Palestinians? Or the year before? Or the year before? Or before that? LOL.

There is an oppressor and and oppressed here for anyone interested in reality. Any dissembling about this stuff just speaks to how much propaganda has been levied against you successfuly imo.

Peace,
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What propaganda did I regurgitate? Please point it out

These lands have traded hands so many times through the years that no group of people can really claim they are their ancestral home. Hell, when the Persians conquered these lands from the Christian occupants, what was their first order? Massacre the inhabitants. Like I said, no innocent hands in the passing around of these lands. So what about the groups who had the land before current day Palestinians held it? Do they get to make a claim and kick both the Jews and the Palestinians out?

It's obvious you don't give a single fuck if any Israelis are killed or by what manner. And that's cool. I have a good friend of mine that's in Gaza now, moved there to be with her husband who was killed by Israeli border guards on some bullshit. I have always been against Israeli oppression.

Here let me help you out so you won't keep repeating the same thing;

Israel is the oppressor
Palestinians are the oppressed

You think that oppression justifies committing atrocities. I think committing atrocities because of atrocities just creates more atrocities. We just disagree on that. The sad thing is a million people in Gaza will suffer for this shit.
 

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