Israel Declares War After Hamas Attacks

[AllUniverse17]

Please stop this nonsense. Israel and MENA both have an abhorrent record when it comes to the treatment of Black people. Gaza is 1% Black with the "Black" neighborhood literally called “Al Abeed”: slave

This article is from well before BGOL, inexplicably, decided that fucking Islamists were their friends.

Black Palestinians constitute a minority of one per cent of the total population of the two million inhabitants living in Gaza Strip.

While its is difficult to accurately pin their exact origins, many say they came from Ghana, Sudan and Egypt — or at least that’s what has been passed down through their oral history.

Many first came to Palestine during the Islamic conquests as slaves to serve their owners in the seventh century.

At least 11,000 black Palestinians live in Al Jalla’a district of Gaza in a neighbourhood called “Al Abeed” which means slaves in Arabic.

Among friends and co-workers, Obaid is known as Samara — which means dark skinned.

“I am proud of who I am, so I don’t take it in a bad way,” he said.

“I consider it to be a distinguished nickname which gives a special flavour to my personality.”

Black Palestinians face subtle racism in Gaza

Obaid, who believes his ancestors came from Sudan, says he has to work twice as hard to prove himself

gulfnews.com

This is why I ask people here if they know any Palestinians.

Alot of posters here don't really know much about the region and the culture.

The reality is the Jews look down on them and they look down on their own black/ dark skin Palestinians.

Never mind how they view Black Americans. Thats a whole other story. Yeah IF you are a Black American but of Muslim faith, it's a little better, otherwise nah she can't take you to the cook out.

None of that changes their plight within their own country. I don't wish that shit on nobody. And I understand what desperation leads to. On a humane level, I wish them the best, as I wish for peace for all people. But is it "exhilarating" and "exciting" as some would put it? Nah not to me.

 

[TheFuser]

My point is you can't say the Egyptians and the other Arabs aren't letting them in out of concern for right of return while, simultaneously, Egypt and the other Arabs are saying that they should go to Negev which is literally in Israel. Al-Sisi and the other other Arabs say Hamas and PIJ must be defeated, BGOL still says otherwise in the rare instances when they can actually differentiate Hamas from Fatah/PIJ/PFLP/DFLP...

You can absolutely say that (not on the from the Palestinian POV). If they go to Negev they're still in their own land, correct? It's in 48 but still part of what was once Palestine, correct? Going to another nation with no passport and no right to return leaves them in limbo like the refugees in Jordan and Lebanon. Stateless and stuck. Why would them going to Sanai be any different? The camps in Bethlehem aren't walks in the park (I know, I've been there) but at least they're in their land.

Now if you're arguing that's not Egypt's reason for not allowing them in, I can agree with that. I just think they don't wanna deal with the economic and political side of caring for 2 million refugees (I think I said that before earlier in this thread or another) I was arguing from the Palestinian side.

Also who's lying? Israel is saying Raffa isn't open on the Egyptian side. Egypt is saying Raffa isn't open on the Israeli side, and in fact it the Israeli side was bombed.

 

[Costanza]

 

[playahaitian]

Citi fires banker over ‘revolting’ Israel remark: ‘No wonder why Hitler wanted to get rid of all of them’

Citibank has fired one of its staffers after she posted “revolting” commentary on Instagram that endorsed Hitler’s mass murder of Jewish people during the Holocaust.

nypost.com

 

[DJCandle]

Pretty much what we been saying in here

 

[DJCandle]

 

[keone]

 

[^SpiderMan^]

He better keep that same energy when it come to approve our Reparations package in CA.

Gavin Newsom has had a “Task Force” studying Reparations for over 3 years now.

 

[Big Tex]

Pretty much what we been saying in here

What's left out of this is that Israel has nuclear weapons, and they would use them before they let those multiple countries run them over. This is a very delicate situation.

 

[HUNTSVEGAZ]

What's left out of this is that Israel has nuclear weapons, and they would use them before they let those multiple countries run them over. This is a very delicate situation.

This is the only resolve Izzy has. It's just a matter of time

 

[HUNTSVEGAZ]

Yo @Flawless ... i remember you were up on John Titor...this was from 2000 my g

Does the current relationship between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war?​

Titor: Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency. This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election. The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Gavin Newsom has had a “Task Force” studying Reparations for over 3 years now.

yes
very aware of that.
they've done great work

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

The world waits for Israel’s ground offensive, and whatever comes next

The Israel-Hamas war is near a tipping point. At some point Israel will have to decide to push forward with a massive and unprecedented ground offensive into Gaza in an attempt to eradicate Hamas, or find a way to back down from its stated goal of its response. A large-scale ground invasion...

thebigstorypodcast.ca

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

What's left out of this is that Israel has nuclear weapons, and they would use them before they let those multiple countries run them over. This is a very delicate situation.

This is the only resolve Izzy has. It's just a matter of time

What happens after that..

 

[World B Free]

Listen to this man, he's speaking the truth:

 

[peter.parker1]

Pretty much what we been saying in here

The Hamas attack meant at least a year of preparation (planning, equipment, logistics ... etc) which means that as far as Gaza is concerned and of course the Hamas the Shin Bet is blind and deaf. Who in his rightful mind could send a ground operation in such context and not expect a Titanic ending ?

 

[HUNTSVEGAZ]

What happens after that..

Everybody starts upp'n them thangs

Coming soon to a city near you

 

[Mask]

Pretty much what we been saying in here

Man ain’t no way y’all listening to this dude, I was told he’s a kiddy chaser… now what that has to do with the assessments he give IDK… I just know I was told to discredit anything he has to say…

 

[Chiyo]

Pretty much what we been saying in here

This begs the question then.

If Gaza is such an oppressed, open-air prison, then how can we also in the same breath say they can "Work" the best military in the region?

Folks will have to be honest. Either they are lying, or Israel is a hell of a lot more merciful to enemies than any other world power would be.

 

[Mask]

I’m say this for the longest I always wondered what the fuck the issues was between Israel and Gaza/West Bank…. Well this week I finally came to a simple understanding nothing more nothing less than good old fashion religious folks not getting along.

Now I’m try to figure out what the hell is the root of Syria and Yemen conflicts

 

[Mask]

13th day of the war, October 19th, status update and major events:

– Airstrikes on Gaza throughout the entire day, still a huge lack of food, water, medicine and electricity.

– An Israeli airstrike nearly entirely destroyed the Orthodox Church of Saint Porphyrius in Gaza, where civilians were taking shelter.

– Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant tells his troops: 'The order will come, you will see Gaza from the inside'.

– United States issued a 'worldwide caution' travel alert, due to possible hostility against Americans around the world in light of recent events.

– As of today, Germany, Saudi Arabia, Canada, the United States and the United Kingdom have called on their citizens to leave Lebanon as soon as possible.

– U.S. Bases in Syria and Iraq came under rocket fire from Iraqi Shiite militias.

– Kann announced that Israel will be evacuating its embassies in Bahrain, Jordan, Morocco, Egypt and Turkey.

– A U.S. Navy ship intercepted 3 missiles that were fired from Yemen, presumably headed towards Israel. It is widely speculated that the missiles were fired by the Iranian-backed Houthis.

– Throughout the entire day, Hezbollah carried out attacks against IDF targets across the border. ATGMs were used against Israeli tanks and radar sites, and small arms were used to destroy surveillance equipment.

– In response to these attacks, the IDF fired artillery into South Lebanon at various times during the day and carried out drone strikes against Hezbollah. The IDF also started shooting at a mixed Iranian-Lebanese film crew who approached the Israeli border, resulting in one dead Lebanese journalist, and one journalist critically injured.

– Unusual amounts of Iranian LRBM launchers of the IRGC Aerospace Force were seen moving on the Tehran-Qom highway.

– The Pentagon announced that one U.S. contractor died of a heart attack during yesterday's (October 18) attack on American bases in Iraq.

– The Israeli cabinet held another meeting which lasted for 6 hours.

– Biden held a speech in the oval office, to be honest it was uneventful.

 

[Supersav]

 

[Supersav]

I’m say this for the longest I always wondered what the fuck the issues was between Israel and Gaza/West Bank…. Well this week I finally came to a simple understanding nothing more nothing less than good old fashion religious folks not getting along.

Now I’m try to figure out what the hell is the root of Syria and Yemen conflicts

Nah you need to do more research. This is an occupation and apartheid of a group of people for the last 75 years

 

[Mask]

Why is Israel so worried about Hezbollah?
I’ve seen a report from a Gaza radio guy,

He pretty much said Gaza people just hope that their neighbors from Lebanon would act, which is why Israel is so hesitant to attack

 

[Mask]

Nah you need to do more research. This is an occupation and apartheid of a group of people for the last 75 years

What’s the root

 

[Supersav]

 

[Supersav]

What’s the root

Israel being created in 1948 in what was Palestine

 

[Chiyo]

Israel being created in 1948 in what was Palestine

Jordan was created out of "Palestine" too.

 

[Supersav]

Jordan was created out of "Palestine" too.

Jordan doesn't control Palestinian water, electricity, and movement

 

[Chiyo]

Jordan doesn't control Palestinian water, electricity, and movement

West bank to Jordan isnt quite an open border is it?

 

[zod16]

You can absolutely say that (not on the from the Palestinian POV). If they go to Negev they're still in their own land, correct? It's in 48 but still part of what was once Palestine, correct? Going to another nation with no passport and no right to return leaves them in limbo like the refugees in Jordan and Lebanon. Stateless and stuck. Why would them going to Sanai be any different? The camps in Bethlehem aren't walks in the park (I know, I've been there) but at least they're in their land.

Now if you're arguing that's not Egypt's reason for not allowing them in, I can agree with that. I just think they don't wanna deal with the economic and political side of caring for 2 million refugees (I think I said that before earlier in this thread or another) I was arguing from the Palestinian side.

Also who's lying? Israel is saying Raffa isn't open on the Egyptian side. Egypt is saying Raffa isn't open on the Israeli side, and in fact it the Israeli side was bombed.

Egyptians have been pretty staight forward about Rafah being closed to people fleeing

King Abdullah on Gaza: 'No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt'

Jordan's King Abdullah on Tuesday warned against trying to push Palestinian refugees into Egypt or Jordan, adding that the humanitarian situation must to be dealt with inside Gaza and the West Bank.

www.reuters.com

Egypt's president says Israel can transfer Palestinians in Gaza to Negev desert

Egypt's president warns that the forcible transfer of civilians to Egypt's Sinai could turn region into base for terror attacks on Israel in future

www.middleeasteye.net

If Al-Sisi is saying that Negev is a place suitable for refugees from Gaza he clearly isn't concerned with the right of return as Negev is in Israel. He can't say they can't come to Egypt because of concerns over right of return and then literally suggest they go to Israel. We all know his actual concerns about the refugees and they aren't unfounded.


The dispute was over the aid being allowed into Gaza from Egypt. Biden got them to agree to open it for that and the Israelis agreed not to bomb the trucks/roads (seriously ). The issue is that the aid/relief agencies claim you need around 100 trucks daily and we are talking about a one time entry of around 20. Prior to this phase of the conflict, there were around 500 daily coming in.

Egypt and Israel agree to deal to open Rafah crossing into Gaza for humanitarian aid

After calling Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi on Wednesday, US President Joe Biden said that Egypt had agreed to 'let up to 20 trucks through'. Israeli authorities have stated that it will not prevent deliveries of

www.lemonde.fr

 

[peter.parker1]

Listen to this man, he's speaking the truth:

Crystal clear !!!

 

[Walter Panov]

This is why I ask people here if they know any Palestinians.

Alot of posters here don't really know much about the region and the culture.

The reality is the Jews look down on them and they look down on their own black/ dark skin Palestinians.

Never mind how they view Black Americans. Thats a whole other story. Yeah IF you are a Black American but of Muslim faith, it's a little better, otherwise nah she can't take you to the cook out.

None of that changes their plight within their own country. I don't wish that shit on nobody. And I understand what desperation leads to. On a humane level, I wish them the best, as I wish for peace for all people. But is it "exhilarating" and "exciting" as some would put it? Nah not to me.

I've met two Palestinians. I knew them well. I'm not the only one in this thread either.

 

[Walter Panov]

It's best to put the Zionists on ignore. You're talking to people with an intellectual disability.

 

[TheFuser]

Egyptians have been pretty staight forward about Rafah being closed to people fleeing

King Abdullah on Gaza: 'No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt'

Jordan's King Abdullah on Tuesday warned against trying to push Palestinian refugees into Egypt or Jordan, adding that the humanitarian situation must to be dealt with inside Gaza and the West Bank.

www.reuters.com

Egypt's president says Israel can transfer Palestinians in Gaza to Negev desert

Egypt's president warns that the forcible transfer of civilians to Egypt's Sinai could turn region into base for terror attacks on Israel in future

www.middleeasteye.net

If Al-Sisi is saying that Negev is a place suitable for refugees from Gaza he clearly isn't concerned with the right of return as Negev is in Israel. He can't say they can't come to Egypt because of concerns over right of return and then literally suggest they go to Israel. We all know his actual concerns about the refugees and they aren't unfounded.


The dispute was over the aid being allowed into Gaza from Egypt. Biden got them to agree to open it for that and the Israelis agreed not to bomb the trucks/roads (seriously ). The issue is that the aid/relief agencies claim you need around 100 trucks daily and we are talking about a one time entry of around 20. Prior to this phase of the conflict, there were around 500 daily coming in.

Egypt and Israel agree to deal to open Rafah crossing into Gaza for humanitarian aid

After calling Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi on Wednesday, US President Joe Biden said that Egypt had agreed to 'let up to 20 trucks through'. Israeli authorities have stated that it will not prevent deliveries of

www.lemonde.fr

I think we agree that Egypt isn't super concerned with permanently housing two million fleeing Gazans. But it's Israel job to do, not Egypt's (though it would be the humane thing), and even then it's a war crime whether they flee to Sanai or Negev. According to international law, forced relocation of civilian populations is a crime against humanity (though it hasn't stopped Israel before, they've been doing it with the bedouins for decades now, including trying to re-relocate Khan Al Ahmar AGAIN recently).