Shid they already said they gonna find himHopefully Israel won't bomb the negotiator this time
Shid they already said they gonna find himHopefully Israel won't bomb the negotiator this time
The US is not the principal at school breaking up a fight.
The US is a friend to Israel and an enemy of Iran.
You keep talking as though the US should be impartial and down the middle... But that's just not reality. It's not the real world we currently live in.
However the US has nothing to gain from this conflict. It's a drain for everybody. We want it to be resolved.
The US has everything to gain and has gained from Israel being a strategic outpost. And that's why they allow the THOUSANDS of war crimes.
I used "principal" since the US is always trying to be the moral police to everyone in the world. If the analogy works or not, you cannot ask for a cease-fire while still providing BILLIONS of dollars in weapons. You can try to justify it however you want, but it looks like the US is going into this in bad faith
How do you figure that the US has anything to gain from the Israel crushing Gaza into dust?
What more does that give the US?
If Israel and Palestinians were at peace, Israel would still be a strategic outpost for the US.
I'm going to tell you again... Both sides are currently receiving weapons... Just from different sources. The weapons being sent now aren't for Gaza by the way, they are for Iran.
The US is going into this in good faith. It's Hamas and Israel that we don't know if they really want peace.
Fair question. I don't think the US cares enough (outside of PR) that Israel is committing genocide or they'd stop funding and arming it.How do you figure that the US has anything to gain from the Israel crushing Gaza into dust?
There's a HUGE difference. One side is committing genocide, the other is resisting. I don't agree with Hamas, but were they supposed to just endure the blockade forever? Was Israel just gonna wake up one day and give them their freedom? Has that ever happened in history? Speaking of history, no where in history have we looked down on a country assisting people who were being ethnically cleansed. And again, on a personal level, MY MONEY IS BEING USED to fund and arm the genocideBoth sides are currently receiving weapons... Just from different sources. The weapons being sent now aren't for Gaza by the way, they are for Iran.
Again, we're just gonna agree to disagree on this. You can't supply the nation committing war crimes and genocide with billions of dollars in weapons, money, and supplies, while simultaneously saying you want peace. You can't in one breath say Israel has the right to defend itself while telling Iran they need to exercise restraint.The US is going into this in good faith.
Man I kinda think folks take them for a joke.Everyone telling Iran to calm down when Israel keeps provoking them![]()
Just back up a little bit here.Fair question. I don't think the US cares enough (outside of PR) that Israel is committing genocide or they'd stop funding and arming it.
There's a HUGE difference. One side is committing genocide, the other is resisting. I don't agree with Hamas, but were they supposed to just endure the blockade forever? Was Israel just gonna wake up one day and give them their freedom? Has that ever happened in history? Speaking of history, no where in history have we looked down on a country assisting people who were being ethnically cleansed. And again, on a personal level, MY MONEY IS BEING USED to fund and arm the genocide
Again, we're just gonna agree to disagree on this. You can't supply the nation committing war crimes and genocide with billions of dollars in weapons, money, and supplies, while simultaneously saying you want peace. You can't in one breath say Israel has the right to defend itself while telling Iran they need to exercise restraint.
Just back up a little bit here.
I personally look down on Iran because they funded and organized the Oct 7th attacks, and since then, fund and organize attacks from all of their proxies.
Do YOU feel that Oct 7th has benefited the Palestinian people at all?
If so please tell me how.
Absolutely not.No. They're being massacred. But Gazans were also dying slowly in that open-air prison.
Question for YOU. Do you think how they were living was sustainable? Was Israel just gonna wake up one day and let them self determine?
I’m starting to think they aren’t going to do anything of consequence. They are very passive aggressive with drone footage and threats but they haven’t done anything major in Israel yet.
I know one thing, they show is burning our money. Our equipment is sitting idling in the seas. Been likely that for a week and some change.
I haven’t thought of this. The fear is costing the US and Israel money. I’m curious what the difference in money Iran spent on that announced drone strike vs Israel spent defending it.
I haven’t thought of this. The fear is costing the US and Israel money. I’m curious what the difference in money Iran spent on that announced drone strike vs Israel spent defending it.
Said it already...Israel is America (or is in charge of America)...time to stop thinking of them as a separate entityU.S. to Send More Combat Aircraft and Warships to Middle East, Officials Say
Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III directed the new deployments after speaking with his Israeli counterpart.
Published Aug. 2, 2024Updated Aug. 3, 2024
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The aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, seen in South Korea in June, is now steaming near the Arabian Gulf, equipped with about 40 F/A-18 Super Hornet and F-35 attack planes. Pool photo by Song Kyung-Seok
Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III on Friday ordered additional combat aircraft and missile-shooting warships to the Middle East in response to threats from Iran and its proxies in Gaza, Lebanon and Yemen to attack Israel in the coming days to avenge the death of Ismail Haniyeh, the Pentagon said.
The military will send one additional squadron of Air Force F-22 fighter jets, an unspecified number of additional Navy cruisers and destroyers capable of intercepting ballistic missiles, and, if needed, more land-based ballistic-missile defense systems.
To maintain the presence of an aircraft carrier and its accompanying warships in the region, Mr. Austin also directed the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, now in the eastern Pacific, to relieve the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt in the next couple of weeks when it is scheduled to return home.
Some ships already in the western Mediterranean Sea will move east, closer to the coast of Israel to provide more security, a senior Pentagon official said.
“Secretary Austin has ordered adjustments to U.S. military posture designed to improve U.S. force protection, to increase support for the defense of Israel and to ensure the United States is prepared to respond to various contingencies,” Sabrina Singh, the deputy Pentagon press secretary, said in a statement.
The statement did not specify when the additional warplanes and combatant vessels would arrive, but officials said on Friday it would be a matter of days for the additional aircraft and somewhat longer for the naval reinforcements.
Earlier on Friday, officials were still deciding how many additional planes and warships to send. Officials said they were seeking to calibrate the American response to send enough of the right types of aircraft and ships as quickly as possible to help defend Israel without appearing to escalate the conflict.
Ms. Singh, in a news conference earlier on Friday, had raised the possibility that the United States could also send additional troops to operate whatever additional capabilities the Pentagon sends to the region. The support, she said, would be defensive in nature.
She said that during a telephone call Mr. Austin held with his Israeli counterpart, Yoav Gallant, on Friday morning, Mr. Austin “committed” that the United States would help Israel in its defense. “We will be bolstering our force protection in the region,” she said.
The Pentagon is also bracing for the possibility that Iran-backed groups, including the Houthis in Yemen and Kataib Hezbollah in Iraq, might target American troops in the region as part of the expected Iranian retaliation for the killing of Mr. Haniyeh this week.
Mr. Austin, during the conversation with Mr. Gallant, expressed concerns about the dangers of escalation. He said that “all countries” in the region would benefit from defusing tensions, Ms. Singh said.
In addition to some 80 land-based combat aircraft, the Pentagon has already deployed more than a dozen warships in the region. The aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, equipped with about 40 F/A-18 Super Hornet and F-35 attack planes, is now steaming near the Arabian Gulf, while the U.S.S. Wasp amphibious ready group, with 30 airplanes and helicopters as well as 4,500 Marines and sailors, is operating in the eastern Mediterranean Sea.
Any additional air power could be crucial. Iran fired more than 300 drones and missiles against Israel in a major attack in April, but only a handful got through, causing slight damage. U.S. Air Force jets based in Jordan and in Saudi Arabia coordinated with French, Jordanian and British Air Force fighters to shoot down more than 80 drones.
Iran telegraphed that strike in advance, giving the Pentagon sufficient time to move additional combat aircraft and Navy ships into place while U.S. commanders negotiated access to airspace for fighter jets and coordinated air defense batteries on the ground to help defend Israel.
It is unclear whether Israel and its allies will have that much time to prepare for any new round of major Iranian attacks, officials said.
This was the numbers in April for the Iranian test run…
(That they gave a warning for)
“According to Reuters, analysts estimate that the cost for Israel and its allies to defend the attack was about $1 billion, while the cost to Iran for the attack was about $80 million to $100 million.”
Also another thing to factor in the damage the waiting game is doing to Israel. The country is on defense mode. Many citizens have been called up to defend. Much of their economy is on hold.
You bring up good points. I just saw the article of the costs per day of an Aircraft carrier. It is expensive to put weapons in position.
Said it already...Israel is America (or is in charge of America)...time to stop thinking of them as a separate entity
So just think a number is equipment been idle waiting for Iran.You bring up good points. I just saw the article of the costs per day of an Aircraft carrier. It is expensive to put weapons in position.
You bring up good points. I just saw the article of the costs per day of an Aircraft carrier. It is expensive to put weapons in position.
And we're the ones footing the fucking bill for Bibi's bullshit