Art Vandelay

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I've been drinking green tea steadily, five days a week for about 15 months now. I did a big diet and exercise change and I think that was one of many positive changes. I'm sure it helped with my weight loss.

The following report blew my mind and got me looking at alternatives:

"A published report cited by some companies found a serving of matcha contained 137 times as much of an antioxidant called epigallocatechin gallate, or EGCG, as one brand of green tea tested."- Wall Street Journal, University of Colorado

The article goes on to say "However, a recent report from ConsumerLab.com, which tests dietary supplements and nutritional products, suggests a more modest benefit for matcha over regular green tea. 'You’ll get about two to three times more EGCG from matcha' than from regular green tea, says Tod Cooperman, president of ConsumerLab.com."

Either way-- twice as good or over 100 times as good-- better is better.

So I gave it a shot. It's definitely more expensive-- the cheapest I found was a ten ounce bag for $20. My bag claims ten times the antioxidants of green tea. It has a pleasant frothy taste. I don't feel any different after drinking it.

An old friend of mine used to drink mate but I've never tried it. I'm thinking of alternating between matcha and mate for a while. Wondering what people have tried and prefer.

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MATE VS. MATCHA


What's the difference between yerba mate and matcha?! Perhaps due to their similar names, or to the fact that they're both teas, the two are often confused. We've been asked about the differences many times, so we wanted to provide a comparative summary. At the end of the day, both have tremendous health benefits and are a great substitute for coffee, energy drinks and the like. We obviously have our preference though ;)

The Pronunciation
Mate: Pronounced "mah-teh". Also known as "yerba mate".

Matcha: Pronounced "ma-cha".

The Origins
Mate: Discovered by the Guarani Indians of South America.

Matcha: Brought to Japan from China in the 12th Century by the Buddhist Monk Eisai.

The Leaves
Mate: Ilex Paraguariensis plant. Leaves are not shaded. Leaves are dried and broken up.

Matcha: Camellia Sinensis plant. Leaves are shaded prior to harvest. Leaves are steamed, dried and ground into a fine powder.

The Prep
Mate: The traditional drink is made by steeping the dried leaves in 4-8 oz. of hot water to form a tea. See here.

Matcha: The traditional drink is made by adding 2-3 oz. of hot water to the powder, and then whisking both together into a frothy tea. See here.

The Consumption
Mate: The tea is sipped from a hollow gourd via a metal straw*.

Matcha: The tea is sipped from the rim of a ceramic (or glass) bowl.

*This study revealed that high consumption of mate may increase the risk of lung, esophageal and oral cancers, due potentially in part to its consumption at high temperatures through a metal straw.

Health - Vitamins
Mate & Matcha: Both contain vitamins/minerals, including Vitamin C, Zinc, and Potassium.

Health - Cholesterol
Mate & Matcha: Both have been found to lower cholesterol.

Health - Detoxification
Mate & Matcha: Both contain chlorophyll and dietary fibers, which are natural detoxifiers.

Health - Antioxidants
Mate: ORAC value = approximately 6000 units. The primary antioxidant is chlorogenic acid, which is known to slow the body's release of glucose.

Matcha: ORAC value = approximately 1300 units. The primary antioxidant is epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), which is known to boost the body's metabolism.

Health - Amino Acids
Mate: Contains approximately 15-20 amino acids. Does not contain L-Theanine.

Matcha: Contains approximately 15-20 amino acids. Contains L-Theanine, which stimulates the production of alpha wave activity in the brain, resulting in a state of calm alertness.

Health - Catechins
Mate: Contains no catechins.

Matcha: Contains catechins, which help fight bacteria and infections. Green tea's catechins are generally known to boost metabolism, lower blood sugar and positively correlate with weight loss. Additionally, as matcha is digested, caffeine molecules bind to catechins. This binding slows the breakdown of caffeine and therefore counteracts the usual negative side effects. No jitter. No crash.

Caffeine
Mate: Approximately 85mg of caffeine per 8-oz. serving**.

Matcha: Approximately 34mg of caffeine per 3-oz. serving**.

**Varies by manufacturer.

https://www.panateamatcha.com/blogs/matcha-movement/17726124-mate-vs-matcha
 
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Art Vandelay

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I drink yerba mate everyday. It's a natural caffine that actually makes me feel nice and tranquil on the inside.

Where do you get it from?

I got my matcha from Amazon-- 10 0z for $20. Shit is ridiculously priced in smaller quantities.

(The mate drinker I knew also said it made him feel tranquil. I haven't gotten the "state of calm alertness" that matcha is supposed to bring, or at least haven't noticed it while drinking on vacation.)
 

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Be careful with matcha over 1oz. The quality is lower and is best used for mixed drinks like smoothies and baking. If you're drinking it straight I recommend the ceremonial grade. It's more expensive at about $20 for an 1oz can but lasts for a few weeks if you use the suggested 1/2 - 1tsp serving. Trust me, you will notice the difference.
 

Art Vandelay

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Be careful with matcha over 1oz. The quality is lower and is best used for mixed drinks like smoothies and baking. If you're drinking it straight I recommend the ceremonial grade. It's more expensive at about $20 for an 1oz can but lasts for a few weeks if you use the suggested 1/2 - 1tsp serving. Trust me, you will notice the difference.

This is the one I'm using--10 oz/$20, MatchaDNA.

MatchaDNA doesn't describe that as ceremonial grade; they do describe their 3 oz $30 product as ceremonial grade but as I made my first purchase I wasn't touching that.

I probably would've bought over 10 oz if I could have found it but the 10 oz seems good, though I'm a novice with nothing to compare it to but regular green tea.
 

sharkbait28

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Met a really sexy Argentinian chick in DC and she introduced me to yerba mate..... umm shit was intense, one of the best climaxes I've ever had (tmi.. fuck it I'm drinking early on Christmas Day lol)
 

Art Vandelay

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Met a really sexy Argentinian chick in DC and she introduced me to yerba mate..... umm shit was intense, one of the best climaxes I've ever had (tmi.. fuck it I'm drinking early on Christmas Day lol)

Not tmi at all; I didn't see that angle in the hour plus of reading I've done on these...
 

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I've been drinking a lot of green tea lately and reading the OP and remembering how much better matcha is made me feel silly for forgetting about it.
 
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