MMA is for barbarians with room temperature IQs

[Art Vandelay]

I don't see how anyone over 21 with a job is interested in this shit...

Boxing is barbaric enough. Football's days are numbered. But many of us are stuck in the stone age.

 

["THE MAN"]

 

[Art Vandelay]

I saw that on BGOL in one of Helico-pterFunk's computer-freezing two dozen pictures & gifs dump posts...

I don't follow that bullshit.

My point still stands.

 

[gene cisco]

I saw that on BGOL in one of Helico-pterFunk's computer-freezing two dozen pictures & gifs dump posts...

I don't follow that bullshit.

My point still stands.

Yeah, a number of people have complained about funk coming in with those pictures. I can only imagine trying to view a thread from a mobile device when he decides to do that. I have no problem with funk, but damn those pics take up a lot of space.

That said, MMA represents real fighting more than anything else. Europeans valued boxing. It was the gentleman sport. And you know what comes next. Boxing is still overvalued in the black community.

Boxing is a component of MMA. So is grappling. MMA is as close to real fighting as you can get without bar stools and other weapons. It determines who is the baddest. Competition in boxing, wrestling, judo, bjj, and so forth only show who can dominate one aspect of fighting.

MMA>>>>>

 

[xxironxx]

Ufc>>>>>>boxing

 

[Art Vandelay]

Yeah, a number of people have complained about funk coming in with those pictures. I can only imagine trying to view a thread from a mobile device when he decides to do that. I have no problem with funk, but damn those pics take up a lot of space.

I like to open a bunch of tabs and then go through them and he is the #1 offender on the internet when I have to figure out why one tab is funking everything else up.

That said, MMA represents real fighting more than anything else. Europeans valued boxing. It was the gentleman sport. And you know what comes next. Boxing is still overvalued in the black community.

Boxing is a component of MMA. So is grappling. MMA is as close to real fighting as you can get without bar stools and other weapons. It determines who is the baddest. Competition in boxing, wrestling, judo, bjj, and so forth only show who can dominate one aspect of fighting.

MMA>>>>>

I only see that Ancient Greece throwback through BGOL (increasingly ESPN lately though ) and it amazes me to see otherwise intelligent people like you and Amajorfucup-- whose presence in the H-funk computer freeze thread prompted this one-- follow that caveman shit.

I look at Junior Seau and Muhammad Ali and see the fixation on "who is the baddest" as evidence that we are the same prehistoric species with satellite technology.

We know what these brutal activities do to athletes. Crowds of spectators watching people do serious harm to one another for entertainment should be a relic from a thousand years ago.

I grew up on Tyson fights. I understand the entertainment value. But these activities have no place in a civilized society.

 

[Amajorfucup]

I don't see how anyone over 21 with a job is interested in this shit...

 

[LennyNero1972]

To each his own.

 

[Art Vandelay]

To each his own.

You wouldn't say that about Jeffrey Dahmer's dietary preferences (which I'd imagine is the special at most MMA watch parties).

It is bloodsport. Fighting and football are mainly underprivileged people without many other options being treated like Michael Vick's dogs in hopes of making a living. These people are subjected to life-altering and sometimes life-ending damage. It's not just a matter of taste.

 

[xxironxx]

You sounding like acur up in this bitch op. Did he hack your account?

 

[LennyNero1972]

Yeah my online beef days are over.

 

[john blackcorn]

im not the biggest MMA fan, but a point i wanna make is im not gonna walk into a strip club and complain about naked bitches and tittys. get my point op?

 

[Art Vandelay]

You sounding like acur up in this bitch op. Did he hack your account?

My last two posts are more intelligent than a decade of that fool's trolling.

Given the rumors of him working 20 hours a week and living with his mother, he actually strikes me as the MMA target demographic.

I'm not shitting on people for their circumstances, as is his MO. I'm shitting on people for celebrating other people getting shitted on and abused.

 

[xxironxx]

im not the biggest MMA fan, but a point i wanna make is im not gonna walk into a strip club and complain about naked bitches and tittys. get my point op?

I doubt he does.

Real talk op. I couldn't get into it at 1st cuz it did seem a lil too violent 4 me. And just like with boxing I'm not a die hard fan but i do watch the big name fights. Mma is way more exciting these days than boxing.

 

[Art Vandelay]

im not the biggest MMA fan, but a point i wanna make is im not gonna walk into a strip club and complain about naked bitches and tittys. get my point op?

If my original post was complaining about porn on BGOL, your point would be valid... Are you saying this board is just for mongrels and criticizing bloodlust here is absurd? I don't see the point.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I doubt he does.

Real talk op. I couldn't get into it at 1st cuz it did seem a lil too violent 4 me. And just like with boxing I'm not a die hard fan but i do watch the big name fights. Mma is way more exciting these days than boxing.

ISIS beheadings are more exciting than a lot of things, too, I'm sure...

 

[xxironxx]

ISIS beheadings are more exciting than a lot of things, too, I'm sure...

That's the thing. I don't watch that shit. You acting like somebody is forcing you to sit in front of a tv and watch mma

 

[Art Vandelay]

That's the thing. I don't watch that shit. You acting like somebody is forcing you to sit in front of a tv and watch mma

Nah, dude. Don't misunderstand it.

It's one thing for people to be sick enough to want to watch ISIS beheadings online in their homes. But if it was a major cultural event drawing in thousands at stadiums and millions on network TV, that would be a major societal issue. There is nothing wrong with any citizen standing up against widespread and growing sickness in his or her society.

If somebody says child porn is horrible, do you rebuke them by saying "You acting like somebody is forcing you to sit in front of a computer and watch child porn"? Now imagine it drawing crowds at stadiums and on TV.

 

[Mello Mello]

Young dumb and full of cum. Who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to knock fuckas out for a living or working a regular job? Especially now with the widespread popularity of the sport and minor celebrity to gain. With natural fighting instinct on top of a lot of hard work training, could come a opportunity to parlay that into millions.

 

[crossovernegro]

I like a good fight, whether it be boxing, MMA or whatever. MMA is violent as hell, but everyone involved is doing it at their own will, and everyone can tap out at any time, so fuck it.

I don't see how anyone over 21 with a job is interested in this shit...

Boxing is barbaric enough. Football's days are numbered. But many of us are stuck in the stone age.

 

[xxironxx]

Nah, dude. Don't misunderstand it.

It's one thing for people to be sick enough to want to watch ISIS beheadings online in their homes. But if it was a major cultural event drawing in thousands at stadiums and millions on network TV, that would be a major societal issue. There is nothing wrong with any citizen standing up against widespread and growing sickness in his or her society.

If somebody says child porn is horrible, do you rebuke them by saying "You acting like somebody is forcing you to sit in front of a computer and watch child porn"? Now imagine it drawing crowds at stadiums and on TV. I'm not saying these are equal evils but I am saying they are both evils and sicknesses which hurt real people.

Lol you on something special tonight. And im not gonna try to figure out what. Who does mma hurt? The people that know what they're signing up for and still decide to do it?

 

[xxironxx]

I like a good fight, whether it be boxing, MMA or whatever. MMA is violent as hell, but everyone involved is doing it at their own will, and everyone can tap out at any time, so fuck it.

Exactly. These folks are being paid and doing this at their own free will

 

[Star]

Boxing ~ MMA etc is just Tame
They should Fight till One Person is able to leave the Ring
Only Rule is No Weapons except what you was born with

 

[Art Vandelay]

Young dumb and full of cum. Who wouldn't jump at the opportunity to knock fuckas out for a living or working a regular job? Especially now with the widespread popularity of the sport and minor celebrity to gain. With natural fighting instinct on top of a lot of hard work training, could come a opportunity to parlay that into millions.

Are you kidding?

I'd rather be Mike Wilbon than Junior Seau, Johnny Cochran than Muhammad Ali, an of the millions of nameless professionals than the thousands of retired NFL players and fighters who you don't see suffering when the spotlight moves to the next guy.

More than anything, I want to see kids who believe they can actually grow up and do something with their minds. The millions are a fascade-- the vast majority of players end up broke with medical problems.

I'd much rather be a football player than a fighter and the dangers of fighting should be well-known by now. (Again, I'd rather be a professional with a real and safe career than either.) This has been a huge story in football recently and you seem totally oblivious.

Chris Borland won't be the last to retire early due to safety concerns
San Francisco 49ers linebacker Chris Borland is retiring from football at age 24, due to concerns over the head trauma associated with the game, he told Outside the Lines.
by Doug Farrar
Posted: Tue Mar. 17, 2015

Over the last few years, the NFL has been dragged kicking and screaming to admit what it never wanted to admit: the game of football has clear and distinct ties to head trauma and a host of other concerns. Thousands of current and former NFL players deal with physical, mental and emotional issues tied to head trauma inflicted upon them, and many who watch such trends have wondered when the players who love the game will push back.

In that regard, the retirement of San Francisco 49ers linebacker Chris Borland is a major step forward. Borland, a third-round pick out of Wisconsin in the 2014 draft, told ESPN's Mark Fainaru-Wada and Steve Fainaru on Monday that he is retiring from football due to concerns over his future, and how head trauma may affect it.

"I just honestly want to do what's best for my health," Borland said. "From what I've researched and what I've experienced, I don't think it's worth the risk ... I feel largely the same, as sharp as I've ever been, for me it's wanting to be proactive. I'm concerned that if you wait till you have symptoms, it's too late. ... There are a lot of unknowns. I can't claim that X will happen. I just want to live a long healthy life, and I don't want to have any neurological diseases or die younger than I would otherwise."

49ers general manager Trent Baalke said this in a statement:

“While unexpected, we certainly respect Chris’ decision. From speaking with Chris, it was evident that he had put a great deal of thought into this decision. He was a consummate professional from day one and a very well respected member of our team and community. Chris is a determined young man that overcame long odds in his journey to the NFL and we are confident he will use the same approach to become very successful in his future endeavors. We will always consider him a 49er and wish him all the best.”​

Borland said that he first started to have concerns about football's effects on him during his rookie training camp, when he suffered what he believed to be a concussion on a running play. But because he was concerned that he would not make the team if he came out, he continued practicing.

Whatever misgivings he may have had, they certainly didn't show on the field. Borland excelled in his rookie campaign, amassing 84 solo tackles, 23 assists, a sack, two interceptions and five passes defensed in 14 games and eight starts.

But as he told ESPN, the desire to stay on the field even when possibly concussed, and the history of the men before him who have done the same, stayed with him.

"I just thought to myself, 'What am I doing? Is this how I'm going to live my adult life, banging my head, especially with what I've learned and knew about the dangers?'"

Borland wrote a letter to his parents during the season, he said, explaining that his NFL career would probably be a short one. And after his rookie season, according to the report, he consulted several renowned concussion experts to get a better feel for the dangers.

"I've thought about what I could accomplish in football, but when you read about Mike Webster and Dave Duerson and Ray Easterling, you read all these stories and to be the type of player I want to be in football, I think I'd have to take on some risks that as a person I don't want to take on."

Webster, Duerson and Easterling were all diagnosed with Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, or CTE, after their deaths. The last few years of Webster's life were a kind of hell, and Duerson and Easterling committed suicide. Duerson shot himself in the chest and left a note that he wanted his brain to be used for CTE research. CTE comes about as the result of multiple head injuries, and can lead to memory loss, aggression, confusion, depression and suicidal thoughts.

But the story that impacted players most of all, at all levels of the game, is the story of former linebacker Junior Seau, the legendary linebacker who killed himself with a gunshot wound to the chest in May, 2012. After his death, the future Hall-of-Famer was found to have CTE, and stories started to come out about erratic behavior that fit the profile.

The NFL denied for decades that football had any relation to head trauma and that head trauma had any relation to CTE, rolling out a truly shameful array of medical "experts" who clearly did not have their patients' best interests in mind. It was public pressure that forced the league to admit those connections, and commissioner Roger Goodell had to be publicly shamed by Congress and beaten down by various class-action lawsuits from former players to take any steps at all in the right direction.

Still, most of those steps are diversions. The NFL doesn't use the best possible helmet technology, it doesn't track concussions as well as it could given the evidence available, and a lot of what comes out of the league offices on the subject sounds like so much spin, whether it is or not, because it has so often been. Therefore, players have no real reason to believe that the league will look out for them.

Borland is the fifth player 30 or younger to retire in the last few weeks, and the second 49ers player. Linebacker Patrick Willis announced his retirement on March 10, citing pain in his feet. Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Jason Worilds and Tennessee Titans quarterback Jake Locker also retired, though both expressed a desire to do other things with their lives.

Last year, former Vikings and Seahawks receiver Sidney Rice called it quits at age 27, and though a skeptical person could claim that Rice was already on the way out from a practical perspective, what he told CBS News about the reason for his retirement resonates with this story.

"You have these guys that have been going to the same house for 25 years," he said. "And all of the sudden they get to a certain point on their way home and they have to call their wives to get the directions home. So that is something that really hit home for me after having experienced so many concussions."

Rice said that while he showed no signs of head trauma, he experienced several concussions during his NFL career. He and Giants punter Steve Weatherford are two players who have agreed to donate their brains posthumously for research.

Borland earned a bachelor's degree in history from Wisconsin and says he'll probably go back to study sports management. In truth, his sense of history led him to a decision that he may never regret -- and other NFL players could use this type of management..

Chris Borland's retirement may be a surprise, but it's hardly an outlier, and this won't be the last time it happens. As the true effects of the game have become public, the game will be seen with different, and more knowing, eyes.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I like a good fight, whether it be boxing, MMA or whatever. MMA is violent as hell, but everyone involved is doing it at their own will, and everyone can tap out at any time, so fuck it.

Lol you on something special tonight. And im not gonna try to figure out what. Who does mma hurt? The people that know what they're signing up for and still decide to do it?

Exactly. These folks are being paid and doing this at their own free will

Yeah, Mike Tyson had all the opportunity in the world. He could've been whatever he wanted and just chose to fight for a living. Most boxers and football players could easily be lawyers and doctors but just chose different paths.

Please. Many athletes and most aspiring athletes come from nothing and even those who go to college on "scholarship" don't get an education.

Next you're going to say the Asian kids who make your tennis shoes should just quit, too.

 

[john blackcorn]

Nah, dude. Don't misunderstand it.

It's one thing for people to be sick enough to want to watch ISIS beheadings online in their homes. But if it was a major cultural event drawing in thousands at stadiums and millions on network TV, that would be a major societal issue. There is nothing wrong with any citizen standing up against widespread and growing sickness in his or her society.

If somebody says child porn is horrible, do you rebuke them by saying "You acting like somebody is forcing you to sit in front of a computer and watch child porn"? Now imagine it drawing crowds at stadiums and on TV. I'm not saying these are equal evils but I am saying that interest in any of the three are mindless sicknesses which hurt real people.

dude are u serious? both situations u described lack one thing. CONSENT. u can compare 2 CONSENTING adults fighting in a professional setting with rules, regulations, and safety equipment to child molestation and murder

 

[Art Vandelay]

dude are u serious? both situations u described lack one thing. CONSENT. u can compare 2 CONSENTING adults fighting in a professional setting with rules, regulations, and safety equipment to child molestation and murder

You have to understand the subject of the analogy. I'm not comparing the athlete to a child molestation or murder victim and I didn't claim the acts were equivalent. I could have chosen from a dozen more tame examples. The point was that someone doesn't have to force me to watch something for me to have a valid problem with it and if you read the statement in the context of the conversation, that should be clear.

Edit: I did get a little away from that with my last sentence but, again, just follow the conversation and see how ISIS came up. Sorry for not being as clear as I should have been.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Bump

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

I like to open a bunch of tabs and then go through them and he is the #1 offender on the internet when I have to figure out why one tab is funking everything else up.



I only see that Ancient Greece throwback through BGOL (increasingly ESPN lately though ) and it amazes me to see otherwise intelligent people like you and Amajorfucup-- whose presence in the H-funk computer freeze thread prompted this one-- follow that caveman shit.

I look at Junior Seau and Muhammad Ali and see the fixation on "who is the baddest" as evidence that we are the same prehistoric species with satellite technology.

We know what these brutal activities do to athletes. Crowds of spectators watching people do serious harm to one another for entertainment should be a relic from a thousand years ago.

I grew up on Tyson fights. I understand the entertainment value. But these activities have no place in a civilized society.

yea all that is nice, but I watch it to learn whats going on in these

streets...

dudes are getting their asses kicked out there and left on the ground unconscious with a kick to the head, because they didnt know what

a sprawl was or how to defend against kicks to the head....


Its very barbaric, but so is war, and as long as they are going on,

Im watching MMA to know how to defend myself in times of need..


its always good to avoid a fight...

but with these crazy youth out there today, maan you just never know when

one of them fools want to challange you..Im a tall dude, so I never get tested, not even close

but its always good to be ready son.


I think its more barbaric to slowly kill yourself with retarded eating

habits.. but thats just me...

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

oh and joe rogan who is probably the

biggest mma fan in the world.

has about one thousand jobs..

including in the UFC where he

does the post fight interviews...


also shaq diesel is a big MMA fan

and he has a decent gig!!

lol

 

[Mello Mello]

Are you kidding?

I'd rather be Mike Wilbon than Junior Seau, Johnny Cochran than Muhammad Ali, an of the millions of nameless professionals than the thousands of retired NFL players and fighters who you don't see suffering when the spotlight moves to the next guy.

More than anything, I want to see kids who believe they can actually grow up and do something with their minds. The millions are a fascade-- the vast majority of players end up broke with medical problems.

I'd much rather be a football player than a fighter and the dangers of fighting should be well-known by now. (Again, I'd rather be a professional with a real and safe career than either.) This has been a huge story in football recently and you seem totally oblivious.

I'm familiar with CTE.

You asked why anyone would take interest in it. Well that's why it's appealing to those who take interest in MMA. Many will risk health for a chance at millions.

You've heard of the Roman coliseum right. Well there you go MMA is interesting to people for all sorts of reasons. The glory, entertainment, the fame, the money, the admiration, to prove something to themselves, etc. Some go broke some don't, there are no guarantees in any of this.

@ you wanting to be Michael Wilbon vs Junior Seau. No offense but that just sounds beta-male as fuck.

I take it you didn't play many sports growing up. That's cool cuz everybody gotta have they own lane, but it's just hard to respect those who just commentate but have never played the game.

Fight or flight, this is as old as mankind. All these contact sports appeal to our nature in how to overcome opposition through skill and physical means. How to conquer the next man with just your bare hands or all four limbs.

Fighting will always be popular no matter how risky it is because it appeals to our primal instincts and risk taking abilities as a man, the basic laws of the jungle.

 

[World B Free]

OP's on METH

 

[crossovernegro]

OK, your logic with statement is just all kinds of fucked up. So Mike Tyson HAD to be a boxer... really? If he didn't box, he wouldn't have been able to live, so it was that or certani death? No... absolutely not. Boxers, football players, etc, HAVE to choose those paths because there's nothing else? Hell no... again your logic doesn't work. Want proof? Sure, how many people in Mike Tyson's situation didn't start boxing and went on to live their lives ? Lots... maybe not rich, maybe in poverty, but they lived. How many dudes grew up poor and didn't get scholarships or go pro, etc? Answer... the vast majority. So no, Mike didn't have all the opportunity in the world, but not having the greatest of opportunities does not = gotta box! Was boxing his best chance to make a "good" living; sure... but that doesn't change the fact that it was his choice to do so.

Do this all you want... it doesn't help that logic.

If your logic was even halfway right, then every damn poor dude from Bed-Stuy who isn't incredibly bright would be boxing for a living because they couldn't be doctors or lawyers.


The fighters we see are fighting by choice... and yes, every single MMA fighter can tap out whenever they want. You won't want your arm fucked up... tap out.

Yeah, Mike Tyson had all the opportunity in the world. He could've been whatever he wanted and just chose to fight for a living. Most boxers and football players could easily be lawyers and doctors but just chose different paths.

Please. Many athletes and most aspiring athletes come from nothing and even those who go to college on "scholarship" don't get an education.

Next you're going to say the Asian kids who make your tennis shoes should just quit, too.

 

[SKATTA]

I personally cant watch that nonsense.

people are becoming more and more desensitized to un necessary violence
at an even younger age.




but to each their own i guess.

 

[gene cisco]

I only see that Ancient Greece throwback through BGOL (increasingly ESPN lately though ) and it amazes me to see otherwise intelligent people like you and Amajorfucup-- whose presence in the H-funk computer freeze thread prompted this one-- follow that caveman shit.

I look at Junior Seau and Muhammad Ali and see the fixation on "who is the baddest" as evidence that we are the same prehistoric species with satellite technology.

We know what these brutal activities do to athletes. Crowds of spectators watching people do serious harm to one another for entertainment should be a relic from a thousand years ago.

I grew up on Tyson fights. I understand the entertainment value. But these activities have no place in a civilized society.

They sure do. That's why MMA is toned down so much. Look, I've been training in that shit on and off for years. It's brutal. People know what they are getting themselves into. Let adults make adult choices. We aren't watching children fight.

Adults choose to parachute. Climb Everest. Swim with Sharks. Ski. There is so much dangerous shits adults do that the argument against watching MMA is simply ridiculous.

We are not watching people fight to the death.