MONDAY NIGHT WARS BACK IN EFFECT WWE v TNA v AEW aka The Pro Wrestling Thread

[Mastermind2002]

Since we're in June at the halfway point of 2024 here's my Top 10 women's wrestlers based on match quality, presentation, and character work in that order.

1. Mayu Iwatani
2. Sareee
3. Stephanie Vaquer
4. Giulia
5. Bayley
6. Toni Storm
7. Athena
8. Willow Nightingale
9. Maika
10. Mina Shirakawa

 

[Mastermind2002]

Oh shit! Toni appeared in a video segment during Stardom's Korakuen Hall show today and challenged Mina to a championship match at "Forbidden Door". I expect Mina to show up on Dynamite and except the challenge.

 

[Mastermind2002]

Toni and Mariah dropped another gem on "Collision". Mariah's reaction when Toni said "My Forbidden Door is wide open" was priceless.



And for those who don't understand Toni's gimmick it's inspired by the character Norma Desmond (played by actress Gloria Swanson) from the 1950's film "Sunset Blvd". Here are a few clips from the movie and you'll see all the intentional dramatic over the top acting. Toni basically took from this and ran with it.

 

[Mastermind2002]

This gem today from Mina in response to Toni Storm. Please keep this love triangle storyline going past "Forbidden Door". I love it. They can milk this story for awhile.

 

[Mastermind2002]

Good promo from Swerve and the match with Ospreay has classic written all over it. We'll see if it can top Danielson/Ospreay from "Dynasty".

 

[Mastermind2002]

Not a ppv worthy match! Build up KAIRI and have her challenge Bayley. The talent is there. Use it.

 

[God-Of-War-420]

Not a ppv worthy match! Build up KAIRI and have her challenge Bayley. The talent is there. Use it.

Can't stand bayley, she's trash, especially as a baby face. Hope Piper squashes her so we can get battle of the fat bitch Kaiju at SummerSlam.

 

[Mastermind2002]

Can't stand bayley, she's trash, especially as a baby face. Hope Piper squashes her so we can get battle of the fat bitch Kaiju at SummerSlam.

They'll never put a World title on Piper. She's as bland as it gets. They need to build up other talents.

 

[God-Of-War-420]

They'll never put a World title on Piper. She's as bland as it gets. They need to build up other talents.

Probably not, I just want to see if the ring could take the load of having Nia the refrigerator jax and Piper dewdrop niven flopping around taking bumps.

 

[c_commander]

Not a ppv worthy match! Build up KAIRI and have her challenge Bayley. The talent is there. Use it.

Damage Control is on Raw now so she can't challenge Bayley.

 

[chrislee]

Overkill

 

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Don't recall posting these, even though they've been highly entertaining

I think I've posted Mariah's but if not,that one compliments the new one.

 

[Mastermind2002]

Don't recall posting these, even though they've been highly entertaining

I think I've posted Mariah's but if not,that one compliments the new one.

The Mina interview was fantastic as it accomplished its job of showing off Mina's beautiful personality to an American audience. They didn't even get two minutes into the interview and RJ is already talking about Mina's boobs. Highlights of the interview are at the 6:29 and 12:15 points. I also like how throughout the interview RJ's sarcasm jokes completely goes over Mina's head as sarcasm isn't really a thing in Japanese culture. Overall good shit. TK would be an absolute idiot not to sign her when her Stardom contract runs out next year.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

Bad fuck up.....not a good look. Promo botches on WWE too lolz

That was like Dominik told Rey Mysterio"Keep..my name..out of my-YOUR mouth!"

 

[Mastermind2002]

It was okay but not better than Moxley/Takeshita, Anarchy in the Arena or Strong/Ospreay.

 

[Mastermind2002]

The Shida effect! Elevates everyone around her and for Emi Sakura to not hold a belt by now is insane.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Bad fuck up.....not a good look. Promo botches on WWE too lolz

I didn’t even know they shot that shit live lol.

 

[blackman80]

Good promo from Swerve and the match with Ospreay has classic written all over it. We'll see if it can top Danielson/Ospreay from "Dynasty".

Facts!!!...This was a good promo that Swerve did!!... .....I'm looking forward to this match at Forbidden Door!!..This match is going to be straight fire!!..

Mastermind2002, I got two early predictions about this match brother!!..1. Swerve will get the win(It won't hurt Ospreay cause he got a AEW Title already)..Or 2. Some is going to come in and interfere in the match!!..


This is going to be a hellva match no matter what!!..

 

[God-Of-War-420]

It was okay but not better than Moxley/Takeshita, Anarchy in the Arena or Strong/Ospreay.

The shit I took after beer and hot wings last night was better than anarchy in the arena.

 

[blackman80]

The Shida effect! Elevates everyone around her and for Emi Sakura to not hold a belt by now is insane.

That Britt Baker vs Thunder Rosa cage match was a classic match to me!!..

 

[Mastermind2002]

Okada has done an okay job but he needs to do a better job booking the champions. Makia's red belt reign has been dry. Saroi Anou's white belt reign has been decent but doesn't feel important enough. He doesn't have a clue on what to do with the High Speed championship as he keeps playing hot potato with the belt between Mei Seira, Saki Kashima and Saya Kamitani. Mina, AZM, and Tam Nakano are just floundering around with nothing to do. He's got to inject some energy back into the promotion. With the 5 Star tournament coming up he'll have the opportunity to get things back on track.

 

[BlackGoku]

They did it with Cody/Seth recently where they open the show and set up the main event.

My point is, they continually do it with Swerve and have him open the show AND wrestle in the first match.

IDGAF what you say but that's not how you treat the world champion of your promotion.

Also, why is Swerve wrestling every week? That should be the secondary title holder's job.

The world championship should be reserved for bigger shows or a once a month title defence cadence.

This seems to be booking 101. Not sure why this even needs to be explained..smh

 

[BlackGoku]

I am torn about this as people want to see the champ wrestle, but psychologically the champ only wrestles when you THINK he might lose. I know WCW used to do this with its champs back in the day of having their champ wrestle on televised shows. You KNEW Hogan wasn't gonna lose, but for those in attendance they got to see the champ wrestle. That way you didn't have to pay exorbitant amount of money to see said champ wrestle on a PPV.

Also that is a VERY new way of booking your champ as well. Just cause Brock makes it commonplace now doesn't mean that is how it is or should be done. Cody wrestles on TV and again you are pretty quiet.

They did this with the TV title for wcw and they put them on WCW thunder..lol

 

[blackman80]

It was okay but not better than Moxley/Takeshita, Anarchy in the Arena or Strong/Ospreay.

Mercedes Mone lame ass is straight tripping and on that BS on what she said that her and willow stole the show!!!!...Shit, people are more upset and pissed that they put the belt on her on her first match at AEW!!...That wasn't right!!..


I'm still upset and pissed about it!!..

 

[Mastermind2002]

This seems to be booking 101. Not sure why this even needs to be explained..smh

TK over analyzes ratings and viewership metrics so for the TV shows he caters to that with his booking instead of a more traditional style of booking. For the ppvs however he books in the more traditional way as with ppvs all he needs to be concerned with is ppv buys.

 

[Mastermind2002]

The shit I took after beer and hot wings last night was better than anarchy in the arena.

I enjoyed the match but I also like a wide variety of things. Not everything needs to be Flair/Steamboat to me.

 

[God-Of-War-420]

I enjoyed the match but I also like a wide variety of things. Not everything needs to be Flair/Steamboat to me.

Listen I get ya, and as someone who grew up loving ECW I like a furniture Match shit show as much as the next guy but imo it was just a giant cluster fuck. From the start to finish it was poorly executed in every way, the camera work, the spots, there was nothing appealing or captivating about the match. Jungle bitch walking around clearly drenched in flame retardant gel gave up the surprise which was also poorly executed. There was no rhythm or reason for anything I was watching and it just fell flat for me and ultimately I couldn't wait for it to be over.

But glad you enjoyed it

 

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[Mastermind2002]

Bring her back and get her involved in "Forbidden Door".

 

[Mastermind2002]

The way I would book the Toni/Mariah/Mina storyline. Toni beats Mina at "Forbidden Door" but gives Mina too hard of a post match beatdown for Mariah's liking so she steps in. Toni gets pissed off at Mariah for defending Mina which leads to a war of words but they don't do the split yet. Mariah wins the Owen Hart tournament which gives her a shot at the World title. This causes more friction between Toni and Mariah and then one turns on the other and the split happens. TK books Mariah vs Toni for "All In" and Mariah defeats Toni and wins the title at Wembley. Out comes Mina, and her other friends from Stardom like Waka Tsukiyama, Hanan, Xena, and Xia Brookside to celebrate with her. This all depends however on when Jamie Hayter comes back. If Jamie Hayter comes back before or at "Forbidden Door" then the storyline with Toni/Mariah/Mina goes a different way.

 

[NightMare Paint]

Not a ppv worthy match! Build up KAIRI and have her challenge Bayley. The talent is there. Use it.

Piper is Scottish bruh. Let ol girl get some shine in her homeland lol

 

[Mastermind2002]

Piper is Scottish bruh. Let ol girl get some shine in her homeland lol

Got to earn that shit bro. We aren't doing charity cases.

 

[blackman80]

Bring her back and get her involved in "Forbidden Door".

Is she still wrestle at ROH??..I remember she was over there

 

[blackman80]

The way I would book the Toni/Mariah/Mina storyline. Toni beats Mina at "Forbidden Door" but gives Mina too hard of a post match beatdown for Mariah's liking so she steps in. Toni gets pissed off at Mariah for defending Mina which leads to a war of words but they don't do the split yet. Mariah wins the Owen Hart tournament which gives her a shot at the World title. This causes more friction between Toni and Mariah and then one turns on the other and the split happens. TK books Mariah vs Toni for "All In" and Mariah defeats Toni and wins the title at Wembley. Out comes Mina, and her other friends from Stardom like Waka Tsukiyama, Hanan, Xena, and Xia Brookside to celebrate with her. This all depends however on when Jamie Hayter comes back. If Jamie Hayter comes back before or at "Forbidden Door" then the storyline with Toni/Mariah/Mina goes a different way.

This sounds like a good storyline right here brother!!...I think it's time for Mariah May do her own thing now as a solo wrestler!!...She's too good of a wrestler for having her as a laggy to another wrestler!!..It's really time for her to shine at AEW now!!

Also when Britt Baker and Jamie Hayter comes back...Alot of the storylines are going to change in the Women's Division at AEW!!!...It's going to be crazy!!