MONDAY NIGHT WARS BACK IN EFFECT WWE v TNA v AEW aka The Pro Wrestling Thread
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I don't mind it so much with the B-Team getting a show. Every show isn't gonna be a knock out the park. You have a point with the shows placement right after Punk comes back, but you gotta get these guys exposure at some point and give your main event guys a break.
It would've been a higher number if they put on a better show instead of featuring jobbers. If they don't come out with guns blazing next week that number will drop back down under a million again. The rating potential of where I can see them ultimately reaching one day is 1.9 million but it's gonna take the hard work and consistency of them putting on great shows week after week. No more filler bullshit.
Everything done at SummerSlam was cause Vince wanted to be petty to the company he said he didn't see as competition. AEW made this MF blink and the investors see it.
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No amount of money would've gotten Punk to sign there because the work environment is too toxic. With Brock it's a different story because all he really does care about is the money.
The environment for Brock is TOTALLY different than what it was for Punk or will be for some of the current roster.
Yep, Brock gets to just cash his checks, take private planes everywhere, show up for a few dates a year and then get the fuck out in a year or two.
I think people need to come to grips and realize that AEW will only do so well in the ratings. 1.5 mil seems to be the ceiling now.
It's what happens when you primarily cater to the "smart" fans and the casual viewership for wrestling as a whole is as low as it's ever been.
Everything considered, Turner may actually be fine with the rating especially in that targeted 18-49 male demo.
Makes sense... Plus Rampage is taped tonight.
The crowd was a bit lackluster as well in Milwaukee... Expect the same mood tonight
Been out of touch for a loooong time.....
Over 90% the current talent came from the independent companies
Clearly, WWE is now focused on creating their own homegrown talent and molding them to their "system" rather than getting indy guys who are already set in their ways. Plus, indy guys are more likely to get over on their own, which is something WWE seems to be deathly afraid of.
You also have to remember indy guys rarely look like Roman Reigns.
It's been stated that WWE doesn't want another Cena meaning anyone who becomes bigger than the company.
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They have the potential to do more because WWE loses viewers every year.
Raw for example:
2018 - 2.5 to 3 mil viewers a week
2019 - 2 to 2.5 mil viewers a week
2020 - 1.5 to 2 mil viewers a week
As of 2021, Raw still has a ceiling of 2 mil, but they only hit 2 mil when they roll out the old guys.
And WWE doesn't have many of those cards left and they know it. They've used the Goldberg card, the Edge return, the Cena money match, the Brock return. They've already set up a Rock/Roman match for like two years from now where Rock will be 50 or 51.
For the last 10 years, WWE has been actively making people dislike wrestling because their product has been progressively getting worse and they sandbag their competition.
AEW is the first company in a long time to present WWE viewers with a legit alternative (as far as being on TV). So now they have the task of trying to get the people who are fed up with WWE, but still wanna watch pro wrestling to come over to AEW. They've done a good job so far going from 700 to 800k in 2019 to averaging 1 mil now, and killing it in the demo.
Acquiring CM Punk was a great move to siphon more of WWE's inactive and active viewers, but that's not the biggest move. The big move is war.
And I believe within the next few years if WWE's product continues to be bad, and all these old guys start hanging it up, and they continue to not produce new stars, and letting all these good workers with untap potential go, AEW can (and probably will) put a show up against Raw, maybe even Smackdown (because that Roman shit gone get old at some point), and they could overtake the viewership by outbooking the shit outta them.
Yeah, it's clear WWE doesn't want anyone becoming bigger than the company which then leads to them demanding more money and more creative control over their character. WWE is like the circus, where they feel the WWE name alone is the attraction and not any one individual performer.It's been stated that WWE doesn't want another Cena meaning anyone who becomes bigger than the company.
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I can't see AEW ever overtaking WWE and I don't see all those viewers WWE is losing going to AEW.
I think WWE would still draw a higher rating than AEW even if they went head-to-head.
WWE is like Disney right now. We crap on Disney movies and their product, but it's not aimed at us.
And in the end despite all the shitty booking, they still make a shitload of money and that's all Vince and the shareholders care about.
I can see how you feel that way.
A lot of companies make a ton of money by selling shitty products. A lot of people will buy a shitty product because it's familiar.
Like people who still eat McDonald's, they know they're not getting any nutritional value from most of the shit they sell, but for whatever reason, they still fuck with it. WWE's the same. Raw is the sweet tea, Smackdown is the fries.
You're right, WWE probably rakes in way more money than AEW and that's probably why Vince doesn't consider them competition. Vince sees more money in having a shit product.
But that's not a perspective I care about because I'm the consumer, not the businessman. I want to consume a good product.
I don't support WWE, just like I don't support McDonald's. I don't buy their merch or the games, I don't go to their shows, I don't watch their product via cable, hell, I'm starting not to even watch their official YouTube clips.
But I will support Tony Khan and AEW for trying to do good business by trying to produce good wrestling product. That's opposed to trying to make tons of money off of shitty product.
Because I've been tired for a long time of consuming WWE's bullshit just because I like wrestling. And as history has shown, if things keep going the way they are under Vince, I believe more and more people over time are going to discover that they feel the same way that I do.
The problem with that though is Vince works for somebody (and it ain't the viewers!) The cats at USA and Fox have more money than Vince and if they back loud enough Vince is gonna have to change. He didn't want his own homegrown network so you have to bow to the people who put you on theirs
How many athletes aren't athletic. You teach your body one thing over and over for practically decades, yeah your body isn't able to the simplest of moves in other sports.