Name 5 NBA players who have changed or influenced the sport in the last 50 years. We all know MJ is one of them whose the other 4?

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I'm talking about a player who had influence on how the game is played....other athletes in the sport...not just the fans.

Someone can be really POPULAR but NOT influential on the sport. So not EVERY popular name will make the list.

Who do you think makes that list? (in no particular order)

1. Michael Jordan
2. Julius Erving
3. Magic Johnson
4. Allen Iverson
5. Steph Curry
 
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As far as influence goes, AI is up there with MJ. Possibly surpassing him I believe.
AI is responsible for or at least highly popularized these social influences:

1. Baggier shorts
2. Headbands
3. Arm sleeves
4. Reebok
5. CROSSOVER DRIBBLE
6. Tattoos
7. Cornrows
8. Rapping
9. Street attire (they made rules to enforce suit wearing because of AI)
10. Not practicing :hmm:
 
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A.I. - brought swag and a flashy style to the game
Kobe - brought that Jordan essence, mental toughness
Steph - took the long range game to another level
That's all to me in the last 30yrs without mentioning Jordan
 

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Michael Jordan
Steph Curry
Magic Johnson
Lebron James
Dirk Nowitzki
 

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Besides helping usher in more foreigners into the league? Dude was maybe the forefather of 7 footers who weren’t relegated to the paint, and who could move fluidly without the ball and shoot the midrange to three pointer like he was a 2 or a 3.

It was a toss up between him and harden for me as my last person my son plays AAU and I see EVERY kid doing that Harden step back
 

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MJ
Kareem
Larry Bird - For generations, he was the benchmark for white players, still is, always will be. He was the Great White Hope.
Magic Johnson
Iverson

Curry would be included if you add a 6th.



This would be my list too. Every player... high school, college, or pros today, were influenced by one of their styles.
 

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People saying Lebron what did he change or influence?

Lebron is the jack of all trades, but the master of none. Good all around athlete, great longevity and team player, but did not influence or change the game at all. Kobe had way more influence internationally than Lebron, but I think Lebron had a much better overall career.

There is no aspect of his game that you could use a teaching tool to another young player. He is an above average passer, that's about it, outside his athleticism.

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I'm more into the NFL but I'll give it a shot

Magic Johnson- the first point forward they allowed.

Sadly, after Magic Johnson they never allowed anyone else to do it. We don't know if anyone was capable of doing it because coaches from high school up to the NBA frowned on it. They were stuck on having people who were a certain height play a certain position

The "positionless" basketball we know today, how many players did they "disavow" or relegate to a square peg round hole role instead of letting them be the player they could be?

If you were tall in the 80s & 90s early 2000s but you could shoot they wanted to you be a center and post up. The "Wing" player wasn't created until much later

LeBron- LeBron James was the final chess piece of what Magic Johnson tried to be. Magic Johnson could have been a way of instituting a new way of basketball but it didn't catch on because NBA coaches and executives along with high school and college coaches we're not willing to see the change

If you were 6'10" and could shoot they wanted your ass in the low block. If you took a 3-pointer or an 18-footer they set your ass on the bench and you were put in the coach's dog house

LeBron not only made point forward a thing, but he gave opportunities to people who were big and athletic. He essentially finished what Magic Johnson started. LeBron James brought on what is now the position-less NBA.

Dr. J. - before Dr. J. the NBA was boring as fuck. Had the NBA not merge with the ABA there is no way the NBA would stand as it currently does. Dr. J and other ABA players along with George Gervin ushered in a more crowd friendly style of basketball

The style, Grace finesse and flashing play, this is the reason why the NBA is as popular as it is now and that is largely because of doctor J and other ABA players bringing the excitement to the game from the tight white coaches

Steph Curry - before Steph Curry you better not shoot a shot more than a foot outside of the three-point line. The three-point line was the boundary to shoot 3-pointers. That was it, it Curry made it THE MINIMUM. Before Curry, a long 3 pointer, whether you made it or not, was a way of ending up on the end of the bench.

Yes, a 23' 9" shot is the minimum to shoot a 3, but with Curry, anywhere after half court he HAS to be guarded or he will toss one up...and make it more than half the time!

Curry made you guard him past the half-court line and that was a game changer in the NBA. From high school to college to the NBA there are players who chuck it up from far beyond the 3-point line and that is solely because of Steph Curry's prowess

Jordan and Kobe - you can't mention the NBA of the last 50 years and not mention these two players. They were as competitive and as ruthless as the NBA has ever seen.

Though Kobe was more human (the bullshit Colorado rape case transformed him into a more human player, and though he maintained the killer Instinct, he built relationships that he hadn't bothered to do beforehand),Both of them had the refuse to lose mentality. They hated to lose so much that it physically ailed them.

They are two of the most competitive players in NBA history. People remember them and their likeness and in many ways they all are the same player. Height and weight they are damn near identical. The NBA as we know it today could not have existed without these two immense competitors
 
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Lebron is the jack of all trades, but the master of none. Good all around athlete, great longevity and team player, but did not influence or change the game at all. Kobe had way more influence internationally than Lebron, but I think Lebron had a much better overall career.

There is no aspect of his game that you could use a teaching tool to another young player. He is an above average passer, that's about it, outside his athleticism.

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thats why I said: Someone can be really POPULAR but NOT influential on the sport. So not EVERY popular name will make the list.
 

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MJ
Kareem
Larry Bird - For generations, he was the benchmark for white players, still is, always will be. He was the Great White Hope.
Magic Johnson
Iverson

Curry would be included if you add a 6th.


I wanted to put Larry Bird oh, but when you look at my list of Magic Johnson, LeBron James, Dr. J, Steph Curry, a combination of Jordan and Kobe, there was just no room

There is not nor will there ever be another Larry Bird. Michael Jordan was in many ways cloned when Kobe Bryant came on the scene. If you look at them they are largely the same kind of player

But Larry Bird? Larry Bird was an animal all in itself

Larry Bird maybe the best white players in NBA history of sheer skill and talent and ferocity.

I remember an interview with Magic Johnson and he stated that there was a game the Lakers played the Celtics and Magic Johnson was injured and not playing. Larry Bird says to Magic Johnson in so many words, "I'm about to fuck your team up"

Larry Bird proceeded to tear the Los Angeles Lakers a new asshole. On one shot during the game Larry Bird threw up a shot turned to run down the court and as he did so he stared down Magic Johnson the entire time, mean mugging him, not even looking to see if the ball went in which it did.

That was a bad ass white boy that to this day there has never been another.

In many ways Michael Jordan was cloned when they made Kobe Bryant. But there has never been another Larry Bird
 

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Dope list, id replace Magic with Vince Carter. People didnt understand his arm in the rim dunk at the time but that is literally a signature move in every dunk contest. It wasnt until Curry came with the shooting that everyone in high school was tryin to be dunkers. Now with Vince gone and Steph here, high schoolers tryin to launch from half court and ish.
 

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I'm more into the NFL but I'll give it a shot

Magic Johnson- the first point forward they allowed.

Sadly, after Magic Johnson they never allowed anyone else to do it. We don't know if anyone was capable of doing it because coaches from high school up to the NBA frowned on it. They were stuck on having people who were a certain height play a certain position

The "positionless" basketball we know today, how many players did they "disavow" or relegate to a square peg round hole role instead of letting them be the player they could be?

If you were tall in the 80s & 90s early 2000s but you could shoot they wanted to you be a center and post up. The "Wing" player wasn't created until much later

LeBron- LeBron James was the final chest piece of what Magic Johnson tried to be. Magic Johnson could have been a way of instituting a new way of basketball but it didn't catch on because NBA coaches and executives along with high school and college coaches we're not willing to see the change

If you were 6'10" and could shoot they wanted your ass in the low block. If you took a 3-pointer or an 18-footer they set your ass on the bench and you were put in the coach's dog house

LeBron not only made point forward a thing, but he gave opportunities to people who were big and athletic. He essentially finished what Magic Johnson started. LeBron James brought on what is now the position-less NBA.

Dr. J
. - before Dr. J. the NBA was boring as fuck. Had the NBA not merge with the ABA there is no way the NBA with stand as it currently does. Dr. J and other ABA players along with George Gervin ushered in a more crowd friendly style of basketball

The style Grace finesse and flashing this is the reason why the NBA is as popular as it is now and that is largely because of doctor J and other ABA players bringing the excitement to the game from the tight white coaches

Steph Curry - before Steph Curry you better not shoot a shot more than a foot outside of the three-point line. The three-point line was the boundary to shoot 3-pointers. That was it, it Curry made it THE MINIMUM. Before Curry, a long 3 pointer, whether you made it or not, was a way of ending up on the end of the bench.

Yes, a 23' 9" shot is the minimum to shoot a 3, but with Curry, anywhere after half court he HAS to be guarded or he will toss one up...and make it more than half the time!

Curry made you guard him past the half-court line and that was a game changer in the NBA. From high school to college to the N B A there are players who suck it up from far beyond the 3-point line and that is solely because of Steph Curry's prowess

Jordan and Kobe - you can't mention the NBA of the last 50 years and not mention these two players. They were as competitive and as ruthless as the NBA has ever seen.

Though Kobe was more human (the bullshit Colorado rape case transformed him into a more human player, and though he maintained the killer Instinct, he built relationships that he hadn't bothered to do beforehand),Both of them had the refuse to lose mentality. They hated to lose so much that it physically ailed them.

They are two of the most competitive players in NBA history. People remember them and their likeness and in many ways they all are the same player. Height and weight they are damn near identical. The MVA as we know it today could not have existed without these two immense competitors

Positionless basketball hurt the game, you got a lot of guys who can do a little bit of everything, but are not great at anything.

Sometimes, you need more scoring to win, not a person that is trying to be all around.

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Besides helping usher in more foreigners into the league? Dude was maybe the forefather of 7 footers who weren’t relegated to the paint, and who could move fluidly without the ball and shoot the midrange to three pointer like he was a 2 or a 3.
Also that one legged shot that a bunch of people have emulated since.

Though I would say that KG was the forefather of 7 footers who weren't relegated to the paint.
 
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Positionless basketball hurt the game, you got a lot of guys who can do a little bit of everything, but are not great at anything.

Sometimes, you need more scoring to win, not a person that is trying to be all around.

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I don't deny that at all, but position is basketball allowed for more opportunity for the Channing Frye's of the world and the like
 

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Can't mention Magic Johnson without Peter Maravich who pretty much birthed Magic's style.

Just sayin :dunno:
I wanted to mention Pistol Pete Maravich but I never had the pleasure of watching him play. Pistol Pete existed in basketball long before my ass was born in 1977

He was truly born in the wrong era

Also, the NBA did not have what the NFL had in Steve Sabol and his father, someone to document the entire history of the league
 

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Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul Jabar and Dirk Nowitzki
those 3 guys were all freaks.. you can't emulate what they did (thats why the sky hook never got beyond Jabbar even tho theres more 7 footers than ever. And Shaq sucking at free throws proves God has a sense of fair play becuz if he was a 70-80% FT shooter the league would have had to change the rules for him. :giggle:
 

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I wanted to mention Pistol Pete Maravich but I never had the pleasure of watching him play. Pistol Pete existed in basketball long before my ass was born in 1977

He was truly born in the wrong era

Also, the NBA did not have what the NFL had in Steve Sabol and his father, someone to document the entire history of the league
I miss Pete Sabol (RIP). He was a good dude.
 

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Reggie Miller - The league finally addressing his leg kick trick this season

Shaq - Zone against Diesel defense

Barkley - Back down rule

Curry - Took Reggie Millers movement & jumper to the next level.

Bird & Bird rights

Gary Payton - Hand checking , I'll give him credit because he is the glove. Guard hasn't won DPOY since.

Cream Abdul Jabbar - Dunking & the sky hook. All time scorer because they banned dunking. The GOAT
 

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I miss Pete Sabol (RIP). He was a good dude.
Steve Sabol has one person I wish I could have met before he passed. As much as I know about football I know because of him.

This Is The NFL raised me. Many a Sunday morning was spent watching everything football.

I was having a conversation with a guy who was at least 25 years older than me so we start talking about football. He started talking about players from 2000 so I start talkin about player from the 90s. He started talking about players from the 80s and I start talking about players from the 70s

He's are talking about players from the 60 and I started talking about the point of minute Rams with Norm van brocklin and Elroy Crazy Legs Hirsch and he said, "Hold up one motherfuking minute. How fucking old are you?"

I must be the only 44 year old that knows that slingin Sammy Baugh was the last quarterback to lead the league in interceptions...CAUGHT. He caught 11 interceptions in 1943 and there will NEVER be another quarterback to double as a safety EVER

That's all thanks to Steve Sabol
 
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