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Erdogan unconvincing on Sweden’s timeline after swift approval of Finland’s NATO bid in parliament​


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in a statement following his one-day visit to Hungary on Sunday, said the passage of Sweden’s NATO accession protocols in parliament is uncertain in terms of timing and is subject to committee and plenary approval.

Erdoğan’s statement claiming uncertainty about the duration of Sweden’s approval process in parliament doesn’t necessarily reflect the situation. The quick approval of Finland’s NATO application earlier this year occurred quite swiftly due to Erdogan’s party and its allies having the majority in parliament. The transformation of a proposal into law in as little as 15 days is a rare occurrence in Turkish parliamentary proceedings.

Erdogan submitted Finland’s application proposal to parliament for approval on March 17, and the Office of the Speaker referred it to the Foreign Affairs Committee three days later. The committee, which convened immediately, approved the proposal three days after that and referred it to the general assembly for a vote. The vote took place on March 31, the last working day of parliament before the May elections, and it was approved with 276 votes in favor, with all members present voting “yes.”

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Finland’s application was officially approved by Turkey with Erdogan’s signature and its publication in the Official Gazette on April 1.

Certainly, Ankara’s strategy of separately evaluating Finland and Sweden and approving Finland’s application to demonstrate a constructive and goodwill-oriented approach while highlighting that barriers standing in the way of the approval process originated from Sweden also played a role in the swift approval process.

Facing obstacles from the US Congress regarding the sale of F-16s, Erdogan often responds with a retort, citing the existence of a parliament in Turkey and stating that the decision regarding Sweden will be made by the members of parliament.

However, in Turkey, the parliament cannot be compared to its counterparts in the US or the European Union as it is to a great extent controlled by the president. It’s highly unlikely that members of the ruling party would cast a vote contrary to Erdogan’s wishes.

The ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) secured 268 seats in the May 14 elections; its Islamist partner the New Welfare Party gained five seats; and another government partner, the Nationalist Movement Party (MHP). garnered 50 seats. Collectively, in the 600-seat parliament, the ruling alliance secured a majority of 323 seats.

Rejecting Sweden’s NATO membership in parliament could lead to a new crisis between Turkey and the US, and this may not be preferred by Erdogan, especially given the economic challenges and his efforts to prevent the Turkish lira from losing more value against the dollar. Considering his re-election in May, he appears to be pursuing more rational policies rather than the anti-Western discourse from the election campaign.

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Bahçeli (L) and Erdogan
However, the Turkish media is speculatingthat Erdogan’s coalition partners might vote against Sweden’s NATO application. Devlet Bahçeli, the head of government partner MHP, had used strong language against Sweden, particularly about Quran burning incidents. Nonetheless, Bahçeli’s indication that the ultimate decision rests with the government and his statement about respecting the president’s choice suggests that the MHP is unlikely to create a problem. It’s not anticipated that MHP members would jeopardize their alignment with the ruling party and forfeit the benefits of being in power for the sake of a country like Sweden, which is not located within Turkey’s immediate vicinity.

However, it’s highly likely that the New Welfare Party, with its five seats, will vote against it. Party leader Fatih Erbakan, after reading an information note conveyed to him by Mikail Yüksel, leader of the Turkey-backed Islamist Nyans Party in Sweden, declared their opposition to Sweden’s NATO membership on April 10. He stated that Sweden supports terrorist organizations and endorses Islamophobic acts, expressing their stance against Sweden’s NATO membership and issuing a clear call for the government to oppose the application.

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As some observers point out, there are parallels between the current situation and a noteworthy event in 2003, when a proposal was presented to the Turkish Parliament seeking authorization for the deployment of the Turkish Armed Forces abroad and the presence of US forces within Turkey. Despite the appeal of then-prime minister Erdogan, the proposal, which could have allowed the US-led invasion of Iraq from Turkey, was rejected by the parliament. However, a comparison with the current vote on Sweden’s NATO application reveals a distinct contrast. Erdogan’s present dominance over his party, achieved through the elimination of opposition, signifies a shift in dynamics since then.

Additionally, Erdoğan also said on Sunday that the pace of the approval process is contingent on Sweden keeping its promises, indicating that he will negotiate until the last moment.

Referring to the Quran burning incidents in Sweden, he stated, “If these attacks on our sacred values persist, they should not expect apologies.”

However, prior to the July 10-11 NATO summit in Vilnius, Erdogan had expressed similar views, suggesting that the Quran-burning incidents might prevent Sweden from becoming a NATO member. But he gave the green light for Sweden’s membership and announced the start of the approval process following the parliamentary recess.

For those familiar with Turkish politics, it won’t come as a surprise that the Quran burning incidents were never a priority for Erdogan. He saw the NATO negotiations, with Finland and particularly with Sweden, as an opportunity to address some issues with the United States, for instance, securing the procurement of F-16 fighter jets and modernization kits that was denied approval in the US Congress as well as prolonging the ongoing delay of the Halkbank trial, in which a state-owned bank is accused of evading US sanctions on Iran. The Halkbank case also closely concerns the Erdogan family since they are accused of unfairly profiting in the billions of dollars due to the violation of the Iran embargo.

When far-right Danish-Swedish politician Rasmus Paludan burned the Quran outside the Turkish Embassy in Stockholm in January, protests were held in almost every city in Turkey. Islamist groups with support from the government had staged demonstrations in front of the Swedish Consulate in Istanbul and the embassy in Ankara. However, in July, when Quran burnings resumed on a sacred day for Muslims, protests took place across many Muslim countries, while there were no significant demonstrations in Turkey. This absence of a public outcry in Turkey can be seen as an indicator of the government’s control over the masses.

Turkey’s most significant procurement challenge involves acquiring new F-16 fighter jets from the United States to upgrade its outdated fleet.

In 2021 the US administration officially removed Turkey from the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program due to Ankara’s purchase of a Russian S-400 missile system in 2017.

In February US senators from both the Democratic and Republican parties wrote a letter to President Joe Biden urging him to delay a $20 billion F-16 sale to Turkey until Sweden and Finland’s NATO accession is approved.

A reason for Erdogan’s deliberate pace in responding to Sweden’s application is his desire to not quickly approve Sweden while there is a significant backlash against Sweden in the Islamic world. Last month Turkey approached the member countries of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, urging stronger and more concrete measures against Sweden and Denmark.

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President Recep Tayyip Erdogan met with Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the 22nd Meeting of the Council of Heads of State of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).
After Erdogan’s re-election in May, he had sent signals of his intention to have a less problematic relationship with the West. The deteriorating economy significantly contributed to this approach. However, there’s apprehension that this situation could harm Turkey’s relations with Russia. Russian President Putin’s continuous postponement of a possible visit to Ankara, the Russian navy stopping a Turkish ship for inspection in the Black Sea last week and the reluctance to extend the grain deal are regarded as messages for Ankara. Nevertheless, Moscow would not expect Turkey, which refused to join Western sanctions and embargoes following the start of the Ukraine war, to do things it is unable to do. Maintaining Turkey in a Trojan horse role in the Western world seems to be a more pragmatic strategy for Moscow.

It is no secret that Erdogan views his negotiations on Sweden’s membership as a ticket to engage in talks with US President Biden during the G-20 meeting in India and at the United Nations General Assembly in New York in September.
 

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I could have told you US influence in waning on the world stage. Our mistakes in combat had degrading the impression of military prowess, and China (specifically) is going to capitalize on that shit.

More alliances like this will start popping up to consolidate power and influence and the US will (unfortunately) lose more ground. Our own fault with the way we run our own shit and everyone sees this shit. People come here, make money or get educated and ship off back where they came from to build up their countries.

We make shitty rap music and TikTok videos.

You tell me how much longer we’re gonna last in this paradigm shift.
 

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NATO official proposed dividing Brazil into 4-5 states for not cooperating with NATO

Günther Fehlinger, president of NATO's European Development Committee, said after the BRICS summit that he would "dismantle" Brazil if Lula continued to be obstinate
 

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I could have told you US influence in waning on the world stage. Our mistakes in combat had degrading the impression of military prowess, and China (specifically) is going to capitalize on that shit.

More alliances like this will start popping up to consolidate power and influence and the US will (unfortunately) lose more ground. Our own fault with the way we run our own shit and everyone sees this shit. People come here, make money or get educated and ship off back where they came from to build up their countries.

We make shitty rap music and TikTok videos.

You tell me how much longer we’re gonna last in this paradigm shift.
Bruh… like it really this serious… Saudi Arabia and Iran deciding to put their differences aside
 

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So are they going to change the name now?

Not at the moment… Maybe they will have discussions next year


It interesting how each nation kinda selected one of them(so say) to be include

South Africa - Ethiopia(wanted another African nation)

Brazil - Argentina(wanted another Latin nation)

Russia - I’m sure Russia push Iran

Not sure who India & China pushed for between UAE and the Saudi’s
 

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History repeats

Sweden stayed on the fence in WW2 also.

Allowed Germany to have their way in the country while providing 'refuge' for Jewish
 

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BRICS Leaders Discuss Need for De-Dollarization, Approve Saudi Arabia and Iran Among New Members

This year's BRICS forum highlighted the need to reduce reliance on the Dollar and facilitate trade in local currencies, as the U.S. continues to ramp up tensions with key members, Russia and China.

The group is expected to grow in 2024, with Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia and the UAE set to become official members. Their addition will give BRICS control of nearly half of the world’s oil production. The six new countries are just a handful of the more than 40 that have expressed interest in joining the alliance.
 

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Not really NATO but the EU



If Serbia joins the EU, it will become Russia's "Trojan horse" in Europe - Maida Ruge, expert on the Balkans of the EU for international relations.
“After the start of the NWO in Ukraine, the US and the EU accelerated the turn towards Serbia, seeking to remove its President Aleksandar Vučić from Russia's orbit. But, 18 months after the start of the NWO, Serbia refused to support European sanctions against the Russian Federation, continuing to pursue its own interests in the region.”
According to Ruge, the West can simply stream Russian influence into Europe if Serbia joins the EU.
 

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Saudi Arabia extends voluntary cut in oil production by 1 million b/d until the end of the year - Saudi Press Agency

"Russia will also extend a voluntary cut in oil exports of 300,000 barrels per day until the end of 2023," Deputy Prime Minister Novak said.
 

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Jens Stoltenberg: Ukraine has never been so close to NATO membership as it is now

Ukraine has never been so close to NATO membership as it is now, Alliance Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said, speaking at a joint meeting of the European Parliament's Foreign Affairs, Defense and Security committees.

"At the NATO summit in Vilnius, we made a number of decisions that bring Ukraine closer to the alliance. We repeated our position that Ukraine will become a member of NATO, but we also added three elements that bring this membership closer. First, we have adopted a comprehensive assistance package and agreed on its financing in order to achieve full compatibility of the Ukrainian army with NATO. We have strengthened political cooperation by creating the NATO-Ukraine Council, where we meet as equals and make decisions. We also canceled the implementation of the Membership Action Plan for Ukraine, reducing its path to NATO from two steps to one," the NATO Secretary General explained.

So...According to Jens Stoltenberg Ukraine with AFU 400 000+ losses has never been so close in joining NATO...Probably when there are 1 000 000+ AFU losses and UkroReich non-existent,UkroReich will join as a full member of NATO...Ukraine will be full member of NATO when Mykolas and Oksankas are no more in Ukraine according to Jens....
 

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Saudi Arabia extends voluntary cut in oil production by 1 million b/d until the end of the year - Saudi Press Agency

"Russia will also extend a voluntary cut in oil exports of 300,000 barrels per day until the end of 2023," Deputy Prime Minister Novak said.
This is why we need to hurry up and get off of oil. They are doing this to fuck up certain governments around the world.
 

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I bet we will, just like we putting pressure on UEA also


“The U.S. plans to redirect some of its foreign military financing allocated for Egypt to Taiwan over what it says is Egypt’s failure to make progress on human rights and other issues, according to U.S. officials.”
 

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Change is good.... muthafuckas made kniggas jump through hoops for them dollars.

Things gonna be different and it's a beautiful thing
 

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lol at the ignorant people falling for this shit. The only country in there whose economy isn't going straight down the toilet is saudi arabia. And if the US Navy interdicts them they'll have nobody to sell their oil to.

So, for those slow on the uptake, while this theater of the absurd was taking place, Biden inked long-term deals with Vietnam, India, and Australia effectively surrounding china. Also a pact with the perfidious Brazilians.

russia has already been shown to be a paper tiger. If they have to go to n korea for those Wiley E Coyote weapons you know their military ain't shit.

y'all keep on with the Chicken Little routine and believe the propaganda coming from faux noise if you want.

Ain't shit gonna change except the US position gets stronger.
 

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Western officials arrive in the UAE amid push to deprive Russia of advanced microchips​

By Mostafa Salem, CNN


Published 12:06 PM EDT, Wed September 6, 2023
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan signed a slew of investment deals during a visit in October 2019.

Abu Dhabi CNN —
Senior Western officials are visiting the United Arab Emirates to discuss sanctions as concerns mount over goods being exported to Russia that could potentially be used in Moscow’s war on Ukraine.

Representatives from the United States, the United Kingdom and the European Union arrived in the Gulf nation this week to discuss the implementation of sanctions on Russia as part of a broader effort with a range of “partner” countries, a US embassy spokesperson told CNN.

The Wall Street Journal, which first reported the visit, said that it comes as part of “a collective global push to keep computer chips, electronic components and other so-called dual-use products, which have both civilian and military applications, out of Russian hands.”


“The UAE is working with its friends and allies to address any concerns with regards to sanctions on Russia,” a senior UAE official told CNN when asked about the matter.

Last week, chip manufacturing giant Nvidia said in a regulatory filing that the US government had added additional licensing requirements for its H100 and A100 chips, which are often used for generative artificial intelligence, for customers in the Middle East. The new restriction comes amid US concerns over technology transfer to sanctioned countries.

Rival chipmaker AMD also received a letter with similar restrictions, Reuters reported, citing a person familiar with the matter. CNN has reached out to AMD.

It’s unclear which Middle Eastern states the additional measures target, or why they were placed. A US Department of Commerce spokesperson denied that the US is blocking chip sales to the Middle East, Reuters said.

Saudi Arabia and the UAE are reportedly buying thousands of Nvidia chips used to build artificial intelligence software, the Financial Times said in August citing “people familiar with the moves”.

Asked about the chip sale restrictions, a UAE foreign ministry official said the country operates “one of the most sophisticated customs systems in the region.”

“This system is continuously and systematically updated to reflect developments in areas such as dual-use and sensitive technologies,” the official, who asked to remain anonymous citing government policy, told CNN.

The UAE has invested large sums in developing an artificial intelligence program and has a ministry dedicated to the technology. It is currently building large language models (LLMs) using advanced microchips.

An AI language model named “Falcon LLM”was launched earlier this year by the UAE’s Technology Innovation Institute, and an Arabic language AI model named “Jais” was unveiled by Abu Dhabi-based developer G42 last week.

UAE ‘abides by UN sanctions’​

Russia is under a barrage of sanctions from the US and other Western nations following its full-scale invasion of Ukraine last year. But most of these are primary sanctions, which can only be enforced within the territory of the sanctioning country.


Western officials have visited the UAE several times over the past two years to warn the regional business hub that helping Moscow evade sanctions wouldn’t be without consequences.

The US has previously sanctioned entities and individuals in the UAE for sanctions evasion, including two UAE-based air transportation firms for collaborating with a sanctioned Iranian firm to transport Iranian unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), personnel, and related equipment from Iran to Russia.

“The UAE strictly abides by UN sanctions and has clear and robust processes in place to deal with sanctioned entities, which has been exercised against a number of companies,” the UAE foreign ministry official said.

The UAE central bank in March cancelled a license granted to Russia’s MTS Bank after it came under US and British sanctions.

The Gulf state has walked a tightrope between Washington and Moscow since the start of the Ukraine war in February 2022, opting to remain neutral as it sees the world order moving toward multipolarity. It has condemned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, but has expanded economic ties with Moscow.

Last week, the UAE was one of six nations, including Saudi Arabia and Iran, to be invitedto join BRICS, a grouping of nations effectively led by China with Russia. The UAE hasn’t officially accepted the invitation.

The bloc held its first summit in 2009 with four members before adding South Africa the following year. In 2015, it launched a lender known as the New Development Bank.

“From the UAE’s perspective, joining BRICS is about extending and enhancing our diplomatic circle. We look at BRICS from a geo-economic not a geo-political perspective, with the aim of strengthening our economic competitiveness,” a senior UAE official told CNN.
 

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lol at the ignorant people falling for this shit. The only country in there whose economy isn't going straight down the toilet is saudi arabia. And if the US Navy interdicts them they'll have nobody to sell their oil to.

So, for those slow on the uptake, while this theater of the absurd was taking place, Biden inked long-term deals with Vietnam, India, and Australia effectively surrounding china. Also a pact with the perfidious Brazilians.

russia has already been shown to be a paper tiger. If they have to go to n korea for those Wiley E Coyote weapons you know their military ain't shit.

y'all keep on with the Chicken Little routine and believe the propaganda coming from faux noise if you want.

Ain't shit gonna change except the US position gets stronger.

Nah, the position isn't gonna get stronger. The best case scenario, I believe, is we're gonna see a plateau in US power.

but yeah, all the "OMGZ the BRICS IS GONNA DESTROY THE DOLLAR!!!!11" takes are extraordinarily dumb.
 

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So we just on wait and see status or is there something we can do to get ahead of this? Investments maybe?
 

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Bulgaria has decided to host a NATO military base. This was announced by the country's Minister of Defense Todor Tagarev.

It will be ready by 2025. The cost of the future base is estimated at 100 million levs (50 million euros).

Tagarev also added that the location of the future military base has not yet been determined. It is clarified that part of the costs will be covered directly by NATO
 

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Nah, the position isn't gonna get stronger. The best case scenario, I believe, is we're gonna see a plateau in US power.

but yeah, all the "OMGZ the BRICS IS GONNA DESTROY THE DOLLAR!!!!11" takes are extraordinarily dumb.


It just got stronger my friend.
 

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We in Argentina ear…


Look we gonna do this for y’all to keep y’all from joining the them fuckers

“Some details of the armament of the F-16s proposed by the US to Argentina have been published, which could have BVR AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles (unspecified version) and JDAM guided bombs.”
 

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“Javier Miley has become popular in Argentina as a presidential candidate.

He wants to replace the Argentinian national currency with the American dollar. He also believes in the privatization of everything: healthcare, social security, national parks etc.

He is against BRICS and wants to stop trading with "communist countries": China, Russia and Brazil.”
 

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Jens Stoltenberg:

▪️It is not NATO that is aggressively expanding towards the East, it is the East that is joining NATO.

▪️Due to the fact that there is an active war on the territory of Ukraine, it is impossible to "call Kiev into the alliance today or tomorrow."

▪️The best proof that our help reaches Ukraine and does not end in corruption are Ukraine's successes on the battlefield.

▪️What happens in Europe affects Asia, what happens in Asia affects Europe, that is why countries like South Korea and Japan are worried about the war in Ukraine.

▪️NATO will continue to be a regional alliance, we are not going to expand to Asia, it is an alliance between America and Europe.

He also said that through the training of Ukrainian troops on Western material, it means that Ukraine is getting closer to NATO
 
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