NBA: Amar'e Stoudemire hints Melo is why the Knicks never re-signed Jeremy Lin

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Amar'e Stoudemire hints Melo is why the Knicks never re-signed Jeremy Lin

When Jeremy Lin exploded onto the scene as a member of the New York Knicks, Linsanity didn't just sweep the nation, it was a worldwide phenomenon. And although they lost in the first round that season, the Knicks looked to be a fun, promising and star-studded team heading into the 2012-13 season with Lin, Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler and Amar'e Stoudemire. However, the Knicks failed to match Lin's "poison pill" contract with theHouston Rockets that summer and the Linsanity-era in New York ended almost as quickly as it started.

But for some like Stoudemire, Linsanity still lingers. And before facing off against his former team as a member of the Miami Heat on Sunday, Stoudemire wondered aloud and hypothesized why the Knicks didn't re-sign Lin almost four years ago.

From Marc Berman of the New York Post:

“If [Lin] stayed, it would've been cool,'' Stoudemire said. “But everyone wasn't a fan of him being a new star. So he didn't stay long. Jeremy was a great, great guy, great with teammates, worked hard. He put the work in. We were proud of him having his moment. A lot of times you got to enjoy somebody else's success. That wasn't the case for us during that stretch. You got to enjoy that and let that player enjoy himself and cherish those moments. He was becoming a star and I didn't think everyone was pleased with that.''

Berman and other New York media members believe that this was a veiled shot by Stoudemire at Anthony, who reportedly didn't like Lin stealing the spotlight away from him and urged the Knicks not to re-sign the young guard in 2012. Anthony, after hearing about Stoudemire's comments, disagreed with the media's assessment.

However, after the game, Anthony said Stoudemire was probably not talking about him.

“Wasn't that five years ago?'' Anthony said. “I don't know. I have no comment on that. If [Lin] was becoming a star, we should embrace that. We didn't embrace that? If that was the case, I'd be upset with KP [Kristaps Porzingis] right now. But I doubt he's talking about me. I highly doubt that.”

Unfortunately, Stoudemire did not offer up any clarifying comments about his early thoughts after the game so we don't really know if he was referring to Melo. But it seems like for Anthony, he is more focused on the Knicks future with Kristaps Porzingis and doesn't want to dwell in the past thinking about Linsanity.

Anthony is also still a superstar and one of the top players in the league, unlike Stoudemire, whose career has been trending downwards in the last several years due to various injuries. This may be why Stoudemire is dwelling in the past, wanting to reminiscence about when he was at his peak. Yet as Anthony says, Linsanity was several years ago, so it may be time for Stoudemire to stop trying to relive how it ended and just simply remember how glorious the whole experience was.

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alexw

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man people still talk about lin as if he was something special

if he was a star, he would be one right now

hell the average fan cant even tell you where he plays right now

how come he hasnt made any of the other 20 teams he's played for since then better?

mofo stole all that money from houston

fuck outta here
 

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...udemire-recent-new-york-knicks-barbs-were-him

NEW YORK -- Amar'e Stoudemire had mixed emotions upon returning to Madison Square Garden for the first time since he left the New York Knicks last season.

But the former Knick had plenty of interesting things to say about Carmelo Anthony, Jeremy Lin and how some Knicks didn't buy into the triangle last season.




The chants of "Let's go Heat" at the Garden served as a reminder of how dire things are for the Knicks now, and Carmelo's shouldering the burden.



Asked if he feels for his former teammate Anthony for going through another tough season with the Knicks, Stoudemire hinted that Anthony needs to be better to pull the Knicks out of their mess. The Knicks (25-36) have lost 14 of their past 17 games.

"It's tough," Stoudemire said before the Heat beat the Knicks 98-81 on Sunday. "When you get involved in this situation, you have to take ownership of it. You have to make sure you made the right decisions for your team and teammates.

Kristaps Porzingis], if he's talking about me. I doubt if [Stoudemire is] talking about me. I doubt that. I highly doubt that."

Anthony did tweet a series of motivational thoughts on Monday afternoon, though it's unclear what prompted the tweets:

Stoudemire said he thought Derek Fisher was "doing well" as a first-time coach last season, but not all the Knicks bought into the triangle. Fisher was fired earlier in February.

"I truly bought into it," said Stoudemire, who had eight points and seven rebounds Sunday. "I thought it was great. Maybe three-fourths of the team thought it was great. But if you don't have a full team that buys into a system, it's never going to pan out."

Carmelo Anthony doesn't think Amar'e Stoudemire was referring to him when he talked about players being less than receptive to Jeremy Lin's success in New York. "If that was the case, then I'd be upset right now with [Kristaps Porzingis]," Anthony said. AP Photo/Jason DeCrow
"The triangle offense is based upon ball movement and ball penetration," Stoudemire said. "There's a lot of intelligence that's involved in the triangle offense that you have to conquer and understand. But if you don't have a full team that buys into it, it's not going to work."


When told of Stoudemire's triangle comments, Anthony asked, "Was I [part of] the quarter?"

"To be honest, I don't even know ... what happened last year was a blur to me, bro," Anthony said when told Stoudemire didn't mention his name. "As far as buying into last year, buying into what? I don't have any recollection about last year."

Stoudemire, who had to deal with several injuries during his Knicks tenure, received mixed reception from New York fans.

"It's been a lot," Stoudemire said of what he thinks of all the Knicks' changes in the past few seasons. "It's been a lot going on, and it hasn't really been great over the years.

"It's hard for me to watch from the outside looking in because I was so involved with creating a positive atmosphere around the Knicks. Now it's gone the opposite way. Hopefully, things can pan out well in the near future."
 

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man people still talk about lin as if he was something special

if he was a star, he would be one right now

hell the average fan cant even tell you where he plays right now

how come he hasnt made any of the other 20 teams he's played for since then better?

mofo stole all that money from houston

fuck outta here

wait a minute now. who has Melo elevated since he stole all that money from NewYork?
 

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http://thebiglead.com/2016/02/29/amare-stoudemire-carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks/

Amare Stoudemire pulled no punches in an interview with the New York Times, hammered former teammate Carmelo Anthony in an evisceration so brutal that the few remaining Knicks fans who actually like ‘Melo will finally change their minds.


I’ve been pounding Melo on social media, but delusional Knicks fans refuse to turn on their star player. After this? We’ll see:

He suggested, for example, that the Knicks did not make a greater effort to re-sign Jeremy Lin after the 2011-12 season because of antagonism in the locker room. His comments aligned with a narrative that players, most importantly Anthony, were uncomfortable with the attention paid to Lin during his breakout season.

“If he stayed, it would have been cool, but everyone wasn’t a fan of him being the new star, so he didn’t stay long,” Stoudemire said of Lin, heaping praise on his work ethic. “A lot of times, you’ve got to enjoy someone else’s success, and that wasn’t the case for us during that stretch. You’ve got to enjoy that. You’ve got to let that player enjoy himself and cherish those moments. But he was becoming a star, and I don’t think everyone was pleased with that.”

Stoudemire went on to praising Lin’s work ethic when he was in New York while noting (not excerpted here) that last season, some players – Anthony wasn’t mentioned, but it’s clearly about him – refused to buy into the triangle offense last season. Lovely.

Like I’ve been saying – Carmelo Anthony’s basketball legacy: Champion at Syracuse, but a selfish ball-stopper in the pros who never got to the Finals. In fact, his greed to chase a max contract has prevented the Knicks from adding star.

A few years ago Ian O’Connor reported the Anthony/Lin friction, but Knicks fans with their heads in the sand refused to believe it. I loved Carmelo Anthony’s response after the game when the reporter asked him about Amare’s comments:

“What happened last year was a blur to me, bro, to be honest with you,” he said.

And he seemed incredulous when a reporter asked him about Lin. “Still?” he asked, adding that he doubted Stoudemire was talking about him.

Yes, “still” with Lin. How funny is it that Melo’s legacy in New York will be when Jeremy Lin took over the team for that glorious run?
 

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wait a minute now. who has Melo elevated since he stole all that money from NewYork?
this isnt about elevating anyone

this is about one player being a star and people blaming him for the other player not becoming one

the fact remains if Lin was really that nice he wouldve became a star in his other stops

but mario chambers ended his whole career
 

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Melo and stats never got along
They didn't even play together, they was in different rotations
 

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man people still talk about lin as if he was something special

if he was a star, he would be one right now

hell the average fan cant even tell you where he plays right now

how come he hasnt made any of the other 20 teams he's played for since then better?

mofo stole all that money from houston

fuck outta here

Its not about being a star, Lin is a very servicable role player, and had great chemistry on the knicks, there are some nights in Charlotte where he balls out, and others where he is at least an average to above average nba point guard. Which is alot more than we can say NY's starting pg's have given them the past few years. Have you checked out Calderon play this year? He is easily the worse starting pg in the league.
 

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That was hinted for a minute :dunno:

I think it's because Melo knew he was a fraud. What has he done with the past three teams he's been with?
 

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Its not about being a star, Lin is a very servicable role player, and had great chemistry on the knicks, there are some nights in Charlotte where he balls out, and others where he is at least an average to above average nba point guard. Which is alot more than we can say NY's starting pg's have given them the past few years. Have you checked out Calderon play this year? He is easily the worse starting pg in the league.

where has he even been a serviceable role player?

he has one or two good games every two months and 5-6 god awful ones

there is a reason he keeps getting traded every year

all of his knicks stats were elevated since dphoni lets the pg dominate the ball and shoot whenever they please

and then mario chalmers and norris cole happened

as you see when he has to play in a real system he's pure trash
 

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If you have something to say about somebody man up and say their name. If you can't do that you should probably just shut the fuck up. Lin never became a star anywhere. Amare after getting injured never did what he was paid to do. If he never hit that fire extinguisher the Knicks might've had a better shot during the playoff run. Another thing Lin's pussy ass sat out the playoff run for Knicks with a weak injury. Bottom line both Lin and Amare are yesterday's news talking about tomorrow as if they matter.
 

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where has he even been a serviceable role player?

he has one or two good games every two months and 5-6 god awful ones

there is a reason he keeps getting traded every year

all of his knicks stats were elevated since dphoni lets the pg dominate the ball and shoot whenever they please

and then mario chalmers and norris cole happened

as you see when he has to play in a real system he's pure trash

He's averaging 12-3-3 in 25 minutes per game, thats not that shabby. And he was decent on the Rockets as well, he has a decent offensive game, just does poor defensively against quicker pg's, but can use his size well against other pg's with similar speed. Point is he would be a huge upgrade over Calderon, and Knicks fan would tell you that.
 

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If you have something to say about somebody man up and say their name. If you can't do that you should probably just shut the fuck up. Lin never became a star anywhere. Amare after getting injured never did what he was paid to do. If he never hit that fire extinguisher the Knicks might've had a better shot during the playoff run. Another thing Lin's pussy ass sat out the playoff run for Knicks with a weak injury. Bottom line both Lin and Amare are yesterday's news talking about tomorrow as if they matter.

yeah man and to be fair this knicks suck right now because of that amare contract

they had the pieces in play to continue to be a top seed in the east but couldnt unload that nigga or his contract

and he just brought the team down

dude is a straight clown
 

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If you have something to say about somebody man up and say their name. If you can't do that you should probably just shut the fuck up. Lin never became a star anywhere. Amare after getting injured never did what he was paid to do. If he never hit that fire extinguisher the Knicks might've had a better shot during the playoff run. Another thing Lin's pussy ass sat out the playoff run for Knicks with a weak injury. Bottom line both Lin and Amare are yesterday's news talking about tomorrow as if they matter.

yeah man and to be fair this knicks suck right now because of that amare contract

they had the pieces in play to continue to be a top seed in the east but couldnt unload that nigga or his contract

and he just brought the team down

dude is a straight clown
 

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They were friends and wanted to play together before the trade. They wanted cp3 but got Chauncey
They wasnt friends they was pretending
Melo came to N.Y. like "this is my team now"
Stats numbers quickly when down and got moved to second string
But stats was being positive cause he was the one making all the sacrifices
 

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couple things.
Melo is the only reason Lin got to even play. Melo was hurt and told the idiot Dantoni that Lin should get some run THAT IS A FACT.
next. Melo saw the scrub for what he is. a scrub.
He stole money from Houston and is now back to being a journeyman 1 trick pony.
Amare NEVER showed up in the playoffs with the knicks. If he had they might have won any of those series that melo was actually putting in work in... but alas he, like everyone else not named lebron couldn't do it by himself.
Amare needs to stfu
 

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I was saying this when lin was wit the Snicks and they was talkin bout some hit the open market and see what your worth is.. The. Melo and JR commenting on Lin money like some crabs
 
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