NBA Finals 2016-2017 - Golden State wins NBA title 4-1 vs Cleveland Cavaliers...great series!!!

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I know we're all human and biased, and we allow shit for some people that we won't allow for others. Sure...

...but can somebody tell me how you some fans are willing to give Lebron a break for going up against a team with 'too much firepower', but don't discredit Lebron for having played on teams that had too much firepower for their opponents? We call it GREATNESS when Lebron and his band of All-Stars run through niggas, but KD and his band of All-Stars should be kept in perspective?

Jesus Christ, man.

I'm really getting to the point of being done with sports debates.

They don't even make sense half the time.

This nigga Lebron's legacy as a winner has been built on 'excess firepower', and he's even LOSS with 'excess firepower' ....

...but now that someone one-upped him in that department, he's suddenly a sympathetic figure?

COT DAMN.

I'm done with this guys.

Put this in ALL OF YOUR SIGNATURES: I will NEVER, EVER, EVER debate about Lebron James again. I'm getting a headache trying to unravel this biased ass bullshit, and I don't get headaches.

I know some of ya'll think I'm a little off, or even crazy ...

...but the feeling is mutual.
They wont answer you with anything intelligent Bruh...
 

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now u see where i'm coming from.. i said the dislike of lebron comes more from his fans than him..they grade with the biggest curve for this guy, argue against facts and logic, make shit up, and are extremely one sided with their arguments.. hell yesterday i clearly posted wade stats vs lebron in the mav series and it clearly showed wade was the better player yet one of his stans kept saying lebron had a better series.. than he eventually said well what if i agree for the sake of argument even though he believe lebron had the better series..think guy nig was trying to argue against stats, facts, and logic for that man.. hell i kept flipping his argument and using it against him by posting more facts and logic and he still try to argue against it... lebron stans are mentally special they almost sound like hoes and strippers when they have debates.. a hoe will be like juss because i fuck guys for living dosen't mean i'm a sluto_O, they'll be like juss cause i had sex with some guy for some money dosen't mean i cheated on my man..it's diffo_O..a bitch will suck 7 dicks in 1 nite for some cash but will get mad if their boyfriend made a sexual comment on ig to a chicko_O..talking to lebron fans is similar to that..all logic and facts are completely ignored..lebron has made his fans have brains of whores

Nobody has more dickriders with excuses than Jordan. In theory you should hate yourself and most of BGOL. The dudes fans kill each other for his sneakers and judge him off 30 games (Finals) while ignoring the other 1000. You Jordan dickriders are easily the most fanatical in sport and are too overprotective of his image and legacy.
 

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Their only reference point was that play when he didn't/couldn't drive past Kevin Love, so after they lost they started saying "see this ONE PLAY proves he was hurt. They was saying he was hurt earlier but when they came back to beat OKC and those first 2 games against the Cavs everybody was saying "HE'S BACK"

Man. It wasn't a fucking thing wrong that nigga. He looks exactly the same this season and if you put Durant on their squad last year, he would be playing just like he is right now.The game is easier when you put Durant on the floor.
 

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Their only reference point was that play when he didn't/couldn't drive past Kevin Love, so after they lost they started saying "see this ONE PLAY proves he was hurt. They was saying he was hurt earlier but when they came back to beat OKC and those first 2 games against the Cavs everybody was saying "HE'S BACK"

He was slightly hurt.....












But you do have a point o_O
 

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I think that trade could possibly happen; But do you honestly feel like Melo is making the Cavs better? does Melo help them in dealing with GS? I would say no...
Dude... fools acting like Melo will be a difference maker. What the hell does he bring? A volume scorer who needs the ball and a TON of shots, which sounds like another motherfucker on the Cavs... without shooting a lot, neither of those fools are worth a damn. I could see them fighting over the ball during a game like Will and Carlton and shit! :lol:

Clowns need to to stop all this star chasing and focus on getting quality role players who add to team chemistry....

Melo goes to the Cavs they will get even more humiliated by GS
 

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Nobody has more dickriders with excuses than Jordan. In theory you should hate yourself and most of BGOL. The dudes fans kill each other for his sneakers and judge him off 30 games (Finals) while ignoring the other 1000. You Jordan dickriders are easily the most fanatical in sport and are too overprotective of his image and legacy.
Why you still mad tho my lil albino mildly retarded LeBron ball taster?! :roflmao2:
 

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Dude... fools acting like Melo will be a difference maker. What the hell does he bring? A volume scorer who needs the ball and a TON of shots, which sounds like another motherfucker on the Cavs... without shooting a lot, neither of those fools are worth a damn. I could see them fighting over the ball during a game like Will and Carlton and shit! :lol:

Clowns need to to stop all this star chasing and focus on getting quality role players who add to team chemistry....

Melo goes to the Cavs they will get even more humiliated by GS
Yep
 

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Dude... fools acting like Melo will be a difference maker. What the hell does he bring? A volume scorer who needs the ball and a TON of shots, which sounds like another motherfucker on the Cavs... without shooting a lot, neither of those fools are worth a damn. I could see them fighting over the ball during a game like Will and Carlton and shit! :lol:

Clowns need to to stop all this star chasing and focus on getting quality role players who add to team chemistry....

Melo goes to the Cavs they will get even more humiliated by GS

Agreed
 

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Are you kidding?? It IS a coaching problem. Big Time. :rolleyes:
Coaching is all about MAKING ADJUSTMENTS. :yes:

Just because a 'drive & kick offense' beat all the Eastern Conference teams... does NOT necessarily mean that it will beat the best team in the Western Conference. :smh:

A coach has to be able to ADAPT. :yes:
  • Sometimes the opponent puts out a BIG lineup... so maybe you 'go SMALL' to take advantage of playing at a faster tempo, so you can outscore the other team in transition & get the big men tired... so they will make 'mental mistakes' like 'turnovers' & 'silly fouls'. :rolleyes:
  • Sometimes you play more ZONE DEFENSE than man-to-man.... to make the other team shoot more 'long jumpers'... if they cannot shoot well from the perimeter.
  • Whatever changes a Coach SHOULD be making... you make them... if you really want to win.
  • Or you keep running the same offense... and shooting bricks.
The whole "LBJ wants to play this type of offense" comment is not really the issue.
Honestly, the problem is not really the offense. 'The O" is running as intended.

The real problem is 'shot selection'. :yes:

Its not the 'drive & kick offense' that is not working... it's what happens IMMEDIATELY whenever the ball gets kicked out.

What does that recipient do with it? They settle for a bad shot. :yes:
They Catch the ball >> UpFake (defender goes flying by) >> Then take a Shuffle-Step (either left or right) >> Then either Pass again >> or jack up a 3-point Brick. :rolleyes: Thats what. :yes:

There's no 'variety' :smh: in their shot selection.

If this was baseball...
  • Everyone is trynna hit a homerun... OR they just strikeout. No in-between. :smh:
  • Nobody is trynna hit a Double, or Single, or Bunt. Or tag up. :smh:
  • Just swing for the fences. :rolleyes: Every time at bat.

Now what the recipient SHOULD be doing is...
They Catch the ball >> UpFake / or Jab Step (defender goes flying by) >> STEP-IN :yes: >> Then Shoot from Mid Range. :rolleyes: (Or Drive all the way to the Bucket / get fouled) :yes:

But right now, in these first 3 games... the Cavs are playing real “NBA 2K-ish” type basketball.:rolleyes:
(Like most youngsters do, nowadays :yes:)

Here’s a prime example >> Notice this 2K player drives & kicks for 3-pointers all day long.... but takes Zero mid-range shots. :smh:



I'ma let Sam Cassell show you whats wrong with the Cavs offense.
None of their role-players do ANY of this shit very well…


This so damn simple.

If they did do stuff like this…the Cavs fans would see alot more footage like this, from the benchwarmers....



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Lastly, this is why David Blatt got fired >>> He never had their respect. :smh:



Plus his 'rotations' sucked. :hmm:
He was benching the 'wrong guys' at the wrong times.


You think Lebron would EVER be able to push around a Coach like Greg Popovich and say stuff like: "Sorry Pops, but I cant do what you want... i gotta play my own drive & kick offense"? :rolleyes:

Popovich would bench his ass :yes:... and respond with something like: "Son, if you want some minutes... you better learn to play the offense that wins games for us... whatever it is.... because that offense might change on any given night... Depending on our opponent." :hmm:

The real problem is none of what you said; the problem is defense!!!!!!!! They have gotten progressively worst each year and instead of addressing that; they added players that are offensive; there is no adjustment for that; lue isn't a good coach to begin with; and last year was more lucky than not; they don't can't play defense and it showing; it didn't show I the eastern conference because they have more talent than anyone else; now they don't so what they gonna do? Gerry swept......
 

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Nobody has more dickriders with excuses than Jordan. In theory you should hate yourself and most of BGOL. The dudes fans kill each other for his sneakers and judge him off 30 games (Finals) while ignoring the other 1000. You Jordan dickriders are easily the most fanatical in sport and are too overprotective of his image and legacy.
i said jordan was better than lebron and posted facts to prove it

scoring titles jordan 10 lebron 1

dpoy jordan 1 lebron o

stealing titles jordan 3 lebron o

mvp's jordan 5 lebron 4

finals mvp jordan 6 lebron 3

chips jordan 6 lebron 3

with a 11 game total diff jordan has more points, steals, and blocks than lebron

i'm posting facts, not curves, not what if's, not make believe, hardcore facts ..11 game diff in total and as i said even if i gave lebron 33 more blocks 40 more steals and 330 more points to make up for the 11 game diff it still wouldn't change the fact that jordan leads him in all 3 categories and owns all those other awards..thank u sir can't wait till game 12 of next yr so that lebron officially surpass jordan in reg season games played and still show how much jordan was better than him
 

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I know we're all human and biased, and we allow shit for some people that we won't allow for others. Sure...

...but can somebody tell me how you some fans are willing to give Lebron a break for going up against a team with 'too much firepower', but don't discredit Lebron for having played on teams that had too much firepower for their opponents? We call it GREATNESS when Lebron and his band of All-Stars run through niggas, but KD and his band of All-Stars should be kept in perspective?

Jesus Christ, man.

I'm really getting to the point of being done with sports debates.

They don't even make sense half the time.

This nigga Lebron's legacy as a winner has been built on 'excess firepower', and he's even LOSS with 'excess firepower' ....

...but now that someone one-upped him in that department, he's suddenly a sympathetic figure?

COT DAMN.

I'm done with this guys.

Put this in ALL OF YOUR SIGNATURES: I will NEVER, EVER, EVER debate about Lebron James again. I'm getting a headache trying to unravel this biased ass bullshit, and I don't get headaches.

I know some of ya'll think I'm a little off, or even crazy ...

...but the feeling is mutual.

In short, KD joining a team that was historically great before he got there is different.
 

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The real problem is none of what you said; the problem is defense!!!!!!!! They have gotten progressively worst each year and instead of addressing that; they added players that are offensive; there is no adjustment for that; lue isn't a good coach to begin with; and last year was more lucky than not; they don't can't play defense and it showing; it didn't show I the eastern conference because they have more talent than anyone else; now they don't so what they gonna do? Gerry swept......
Love had 6 steals tho? :confused:
 

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Nobody has more dickriders with excuses than Jordan. In theory you should hate yourself and most of BGOL. The dudes fans kill each other for his sneakers and judge him off 30 games (Finals) while ignoring the other 1000. You Jordan dickriders are easily the most fanatical in sport and are too overprotective of his image and legacy.


Sounds like a knick fan
 

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These cats are clowns at this point.

Bitch he the perfect fir for any team!!! Hes a top 15 player all time. Foh!! Hes an obscene addition for a 73 win team.

#Trust

Same it says about the West that they swept... (and won 73 games playing in last season).

Name the one that had 3 MVP trophies in their prime...and two more all nba guys in the same starting lineup. GSW have 4 of the top 20 players in the world.

No muthafucka!! The reason TT is useless is because he stinks... Also, the warriors added the second best player in the world to a 73 win team. So at any given moment TT will face KD, or SC on a switch...

:smh:
So now all of a sudden LBJ role players stink:lol:didn't you pick the Cavs to win though:hmm:if GS was so great why didn't you pick them to win:hmm:...

Bill Russell played with 8 hall of famers in the 60s; kareem and oscar, 2 mvps, on the same team in their primes in the 70s; along with a great supporting cast; magic played with how many all stars in the 80s? Bird played with a top 50 all time great in his prime player, and 4 other all stars:lol::lol:; zeke and dumars hall of famers, mark aquirre all star, rodman salley Bill microwave etc etc great role players:lol:MJ played with a top 50 all time great in his prime; and a good supporting cast; that great almost took them to the finals without MJ.....we not gonna even mentioned all the help LBJ has had etc etc etc; there have been plenty of super teams; not constructed like this but it works the same; you talked a lot of shit... eat it now
 

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The real problem is none of what you said; the problem is defense!!!!!!!! T...

Yep. This is the other understated thing. Players like Delly might have been trash offensively but he played hard ass fuck on the perimeter. It's one of those role players that's a meaningful loss....might not show up on the stat sheet though.

Cavs didn't get better.. but really were strapped with the Cap...and now only did the Warriors get better, they added fucking Durant...i hate these muthafuckas but I have to give the GM credit..those are mainly players they drafted and they handed the cap so fucking well that they had money to add durant.. still fuck them muthafuckas though :lol:
 

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Naw. Melo would have helped, easily. Cavs have no players that can play in the post. At the end of games, that's the easier way to get good looks. Cavs are a good shooting team but they're streaky team. Irving, SMith, etc are streaky 3 point shooters... Warriors are really the only team that can depend solely on jump shooting because they're the best shooting team ever.

Buf if some shit happens and the Cavs add a superstar to match up with the Cavs, I'm done watching the NBA until they fix the product.
 

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The Cavs had a chance to win last night i think they just tried to hard to put that dagger into the Warriors with the 3 ball in the 4th qtr, but somebody tell me this what's the problem with Tristian Thompson, he was a no show again last night with THREE REBOUNDS and ZERO POINTS. For the series he has combined for 11 rebounds and 8 points
 

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Their only reference point was that play when he didn't/couldn't drive past Kevin Love, so after they lost they started saying "see this ONE PLAY proves he was hurt. They was saying he was hurt earlier but when they came back to beat OKC and those first 2 games against the Cavs everybody was saying "HE'S BACK"
Klay won that series.

Steph was clearly hobbled.

Don't matter they lost.

Draymond. Was unfairly suspended

Don't matter, they lost

Refs targeted fouls
Don't matter, they lost.

No one had problems with super teams until then super team gets out supered
 

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Naw. Melo would have helped, easily. Cavs have no players that can play in the post. At the end of games, that's the easier way to get good looks. Cavs are a good shooting team but they're streaky team. Irving, SMith, etc are streaky 3 point shooters... Warriors are really the only team that can depend solely on jump shooting because they're the best shooting team ever.

Buf if some shit happens and the Cavs add a superstar to match up with the Cavs, I'm done watching the NBA until they fix the product.
He plays zero defense...

Your soloution to a team that lost because of iso ball and bad shot selection is to add another iso player with bad shot selection?
 

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So now all of a sudden LBJ role players stink:lol:didn't you pick the Cavs to win though:hmm:if GS was so great why didn't you pick them to win:hmm:...

Bill Russell played with 8 hall of famers in the 60s; kareem and oscar, 2 mvps, on the same team in their primes in the 70s; along with a great supporting cast; magic played with how many all stars in the 80s? Bird played with a top 50 all time great in his prime player, and 4 other all stars:lol::lol:; zeke and dumars hall of famers, mark aquirre all star, rodman salley Bill microwave etc etc great role players:lol:MJ played with a top 50 all time great in his prime; and a good supporting cast; that great almost took them to the finals without MJ.....we not gonna even mentioned all the help LBJ has had etc etc etc; there have been plenty of super teams; not constructed like this but it works the same; you talked a lot of shit... eat it now
Its always that Niggas role player! Fool is avg 3 pts in the 4th quarter and getting roasted on the reg but its somebody else fault. Truth be told the only reason they were in that game is because of gunning ass Kyrie.... LeBron didnt do SHIT in the second half! :lol:

Think of this fam... all the finals this choking ass Nigga been to and he only has won 17 finals games?!?!? Incubus' teams only win an avg of 2 games in the finals?!?!?

He been hoeing himself out for years for this shit?!?!? :roflmao:
 

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Klay won that series.

Steph was clearly hobbled.

Don't matter they lost.

Draymond. Was unfairly suspended

Don't matter, they lost

Refs targeted fouls
Don't matter, they lost.

No one had problems with super teams until then super team gets out supered

Klay Thompson won Game 6. All the sports media/fans declared, social media was full of memes declaring Steph was BACK to 100% until..............................:rolleyes:

Check all these vids of Curry blowing past players before that ONE Game 7 play when he didn't/couldn't blow past Kevin Love


 
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The vet that would've helped the cavs was Joe Johnson this offseason but he went to utah instead and all they got was Korver and Deron Williams. Joe Johnson has more left in the tank than those 2
 
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