NFL: New AP report specifies who Ray Rice tape was sent to at NFL offices

[playahaitian]

New AP report specifies who Ray Rice tape was sent to at NFL offices

Jeffrey Miller is the latest key name in the NFL's Ray Rice controversy.
When a law enforcement official sent the full video of Rice punching his then-fiancee to the NFL he addressed it to Miller, the NFL's vice president of security, according to a new report from the Associated Press.

The AP reported two weeks ago that the tape was sent to the league offices, but didn't specify who it was sent to. The AP reported then that a female left a voicemail saying the tape arrived on April 9 and she said "You're right. It's terrible."

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The NFL has been in full denial that it ever saw the full video. Miller said through an NFL spokesman, "I unequivocally deny that I received at any time a copy of the video, and I had not watched it until it was made public on September 8."

If the NFL wants us to believe that, it'll immediately look into who might have had it, now that there are more specifics to follow up on, and be transparent about what happened. I doubt anyone is holding their breath for that to happen.

Either the AP is being entirely misled by a source or the NFL should be able to figure out who actually received that mail and why it never found its way to Miller (or, the NFL is lying about never having seen it). The league's approach the entire time has been to believe its fans have no common sense, so it's unlikely those answers come soon.

The AP's source addressed why he decided to reveal who he anonymously sent the tape to, after not doing so two weeks ago.

"Since the NFLPA and NFL have launched separate investigations into the league and the Ravens' handling of Ray Rice's case, I want to make a few things clear. No one from the NFL ever asked me for the inside-elevator video," the official told AP. "I mailed it anonymously to Jeff Miller because he's their head of security. I attached a note saying: 'Ray Rice elevator video. You have to see it. It's terrible.' I provided a number for a disposable cellphone and asked for confirmation that it was received. I knew there was a possibility Mr. Miller may not get the video, but I hoped it would land in the right hands."​

There is mounting evidence that the tape made its way to the NFL offices, even though it's possible that it was in the offices and none of the NFL's top officials saw it. The league should be able to figure out why that tape never got to Miller, or commissioner Roger Goodell, now that the recipient should be narrowed down. Whether the league is serious about letting everyone know exactly what happened, or if it just wants to keep figuring its fans and observers are not smart enough to figure out that something doesn't line up with their story, that remains to be seen.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...ape-was-sent-to-at-nfl-offices-010724250.html

 

[woodchuck]

Here's what doesn't add up, among other things, if NO ONE at the NFL offices saw the tape, why did the lady on the voice message CONFIRMING the reception of said tape say, "You're right, it's bad."?

 

[Amajorfucup]

Jeff about to get 2million in a swiss bank account, a six figure work from home consultant position at some firm or corporation and a pink slip with the picture of an "escape goat" on it.

 

[Coldchi]

Here's what doesn't add up, among other things, if NO ONE at the NFL offices saw the tape, why did the lady on the voice message CONFIRMING the reception of said tape say, "You're right, it's bad."?

thats confirmation right there........caught red handed.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Jeff about to get 2million in a swiss bank account, a six figure work from home consultant position at some firm or corporation and a pink slip with the picture of an "escape goat" on it.

Yea he's done

No more NFL for you

And no more perks at all Faggit

Jeff Miller

 

[playahaitian]

Here's what doesn't add up, among other things, if NO ONE at the NFL offices saw the tape, why did the lady on the voice message CONFIRMING the reception of said tape say, "You're right, it's bad."?

* boom

 

[Brother Blues]

It hard to get the lies straight when there are so many parts...

 

[Djmarkxr7]

Here's what doesn't add up, among other things, if NO ONE at the NFL offices saw the tape, why did the lady on the voice message CONFIRMING the reception of said tape say, "You're right, it's bad."?

The NFL is gonna fall back onto the excuse that, since the tape wasn't explicitly labeled "INSIDE elevator video of Ray Rice" that everyone @ their offices, including the woman who said "You're right, it's bad!" just assumed it was the same video that everyone had already seen w/o ever opening it, of Ray Rice carrying his then fiance' around like a rag doll OUTSIDE of the elevator, remember, since it was addressed to Jeff Miller, why would a woman, presumably a subordinate, have seen it @ the same time?!?

The more damning statement is the fact that a 9.5 billion dollar franchise/business that was charged with dispensing discipline based on what happened NEVER ASKED for the tape to begin with!!!

 

[playahaitian]

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?p=14779220#post14779220

 

[jackeebleu]

So wait, I'm sorry, but you get a package from someone anonymously, with a note attached that says, "this is horrible, watch this", and you have someone from your office, call back the stranger, and leave a message, to someone they don't know, to a number they don't know, saying "yep, its bad! Thanks for the tape!" Huh? Is it just me or does this story of anonymous sources and burners make no fucking sense at all?

 

[playahaitian]

So wait, I'm sorry, but you get a package from someone anonymously, with a note attached that says, "this is horrible, watch this", and you have someone from your office, call back the stranger, and leave a message, to someone they don't know, to a number they don't know, saying "yep, its bad! Thanks for the tape!" Huh? Is it just me or does this story of anonymous sources and burners make no fucking sense at all?

 

[ballscout1]

The NFL is gonna fall back onto the excuse that, since the tape wasn't explicitly labeled "INSIDE elevator video of Ray Rice" that everyone @ their offices, including the woman who said "You're right, it's bad!" just assumed it was the same video that everyone had already seen w/o ever opening it, of Ray Rice carrying his then fiance' around like a rag doll OUTSIDE of the elevator, remember, since it was addressed to Jeff Miller, why would a woman, presumably a subordinate, have seen it @ the same time?!?

The more damning statement is the fact that a 9.5 billion dollar franchise/business that was charged with dispensing discipline based on what happened NEVER ASKED for the tape to begin with!!!

If they assumed anything without actually looking at it then they are derelict and anybody that believes that is only trying to fool themselves.

NFL, MLB and NBA security are like the Feds.

The video was labeled inside the elevator so why again would they assume that it was a video of outside the elevator ? Especially since when the outside video was released everyone with a heartbeat questioned what happened inside the elevator.

Why would the woman see it ? Simple she most like is the executive assistant ( administrative assistant) to the vice president of NFL security.It stands to reason there is nothing that she doesn't see in regards to his office.



Even without this video being specifically sent it is unreasonable to think that the NFL had not seen every video from that night and every angle. We are to believe they would not have gotten those videos from the hotel ?

There is also statements that Rice came clean and told them he punched his fiance and knocked her out...So the the NFL to try and say that isn't what happened is bullshit because that is exactly what he did.

It would have been different if he said he punched her but instead hit her with a bat...

NFL is lying plain and simple



BTW this would have been over with if they simply stood by their initial punishment instead of lying.

They also weeks later instituted a new policy to address domestic violence since they didn't have one when Rice hit his woman.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

Jeff about to get 2million in a swiss bank account, a six figure work from home consultant position at some firm or corporation and a pink slip with the picture of an "escape goat" on it.

 

[BDR]

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?p=14779220#post14779220

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

 

[Djmarkxr7]

If they assumed anything without actually looking at it then they are derelict and anybody that believes that is only trying to fool themselves.

NFL, MLB and NBA security are like the Feds.

The video was labeled inside the elevator so why again would they assume that it was a video of outside the elevator ? Especially since when the outside video was released everyone with a heartbeat questioned what happened inside the elevator.

"I mailed it anonymously to Jeff Miller because he's their head of security. I attached a note saying: 'Ray Rice elevator video. You have to see it. It's terrible.

It says NOTHING about being inside the elevator.

Why would the woman see it ? Simple she most like is the executive assistant ( administrative assistant) to the vice president of NFL security.It stands to reason there is nothing that she doesn't see in regards to his office.

It DOESN'T stand to reason, if she was an assistant she is NOT part of security, and as such, she would break the "chain of custody" as far as sensitive material goes, in other words, ANY lawyer worth two cents could/would introduce that she could've tampered with whatever "evidence" was received, especially something that did NOT have her name on it.

Even without this video being specifically sent it is unreasonable to think that the NFL had not seen every video from that night and every angle. We are to believe they would not have gotten those videos from the hotel?

I am in lock step with you on this statement, however, the law official in question himself said that "No one from the NFL asked me for the inside-elevator video", so it can also stand to reason that if no one asked, why would they be looking to receive ANYTHING from said law officials?!?

There is also statements that Rice came clean and told them he punched his fiance and knocked her out...So the the NFL to try and say that isn't what happened is bullshit because that is exactly what he did.

Rice also said that he had too much to drink, have you ever heard a drunk recall what they did the night before?!?

Not only are there gaps, it's extremely spotty, biased, and painted to put themselves in a better light, but let's not quibble over small matters, the fact that he knocked her out should have been enough, but you saw for yourself that many on this very board were saying that she provoked him, how do we know how much Rice may have emphasized her spitting & slapping him inside the elevator, and even Janae herself not only cosigning with Ray, but taking blame herself, this is why domestic violence advocacy groups ALL said that Janae SHOULD NOT have been @ that meeting!

It would have been different if he said he punched her but instead hit her with a bat...

NOT when you're dealing with a pro athlete it isn't, remember that we are talking about people WHO ARE PAID to work out and build their muscle mass to many times that of the average person, the SAME applies to Adrian Peterson, a few hits from a switch from him vs. a few hits from a switch from you or I are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS, they are athletes who compete on a level way above regular people, TRUST that a slap from Ray Rice vs a slap from a regular person are two different things!

NFL is lying plain and simple

There DEFINITELY is some sort of cover-up, but it seems more to me that what they're covering is the fact that they've ALWAYS treated these situations as "Boys will be Boys", the problem is much more systemic, rather than just Roger himself, the bottom line is ALWAYS the bottom line, the NFL was MUCH MORE about keeping these players ON THE FIELD rather than actually helping them resolve their personal issues, in a world where EVERYTHING done in the dark seems to come out in the light it seems far-fetched that, if they saw the video, that the punishment would've been so light, as I said earlier, the more damning tidbit here is the fact that NO ONE actually seemed to care about investigating this situation thoroughly, AND THIS IS THEIR ADMITTED POSITION!!!

BTW this would have been over with if they simply stood by their initial punishment instead of lying.

If they had done this, Goodell would've been out of a job already!!!

The actual thing that would've prevented all of this would've been a proper punishment to begin with, a 4 game suspension (or 6) to begin with, you simply can't justify getting caught with a joint/having weed in your system (which hurts NO ONE!) being a 4 game suspension, and COMPLETELY KNOCKING OUT a woman and dragging her out of an elevator like a rag doll only being worth 2, even though it is apples vs oranges, one of the fruits appears to have SIGNIFICANTLY higher value, which just shouldn't be the case!

Further, how can Goodell justify giving Big Ben 6 games when he's neither been charged nor convicted with no video, and only give Rice 2 games, even with it being his first offense?!?

They also weeks later instituted a new policy to address domestic violence since they didn't have one when Rice hit his woman.

Right, and THAT move BLUNTED ALL efforts to dismiss Goodell, not only did he admit his mistake, he also put in place a much tougher policy to address the issue BEFORE the tape became public, but this is where I have a problem!

How could Goodell suspend Rice indefinitely when, IN HIS OWN WORDS, a first offense is a 6 game suspension, exactly how is this any different from letting Wes Welker play last Sunday under the NFL's new drug policy that was just enacted last week?!?

Further, it was the NFL's duty to do their due diligence in investigating Rice, NOT RICE'S, so when they handed down their 2 game suspension, as far as Ray Rice is concerned, THAT WAS IT, NOTHING CHANGED FROM HIS POV so why should he be further punished for the same "crime" that he had already admitted to?!?

The BIGGEST problem that the Commish has had here is that this story unfolded, and keeps unfolding as the season goes on, NO OTHER LEAGUE has had to deal with their problems this way, when MLB was enbroiled in the steroids issue it began in the off-season.

Goodell handled this wrong from jump, no doubt, but if he stepped down is anyone else here worried about how "tight" the next Commish would be?!?

 

[ballscout1]

It says NOTHING about being inside the elevator.



It DOESN'T stand to reason, if she was an assistant she is NOT part of security, and as such, she would break the "chain of custody" as far as sensitive material goes, in other words, ANY lawyer worth two cents could/would introduce that she could've tampered with whatever "evidence" was received, especially something that did NOT have her name on it.



I am in lock step with you on this statement, however, the law official in question himself said that "No one from the NFL asked me for the inside-elevator video", so it can also stand to reason that if no one asked, why would they be looking to receive ANYTHING from said law officials?!?



Rice also said that he had too much to drink, have you ever heard a drunk recall what they did the night before?!?

Not only are there gaps, it's extremely spotty, biased, and painted to put themselves in a better light, but let's not quibble over small matters, the fact that he knocked her out should have been enough, but you saw for yourself that many on this very board were saying that she provoked him, how do we know how much Rice may have emphasized her spitting & slapping him inside the elevator, and even Janae herself not only cosigning with Ray, but taking blame herself, this is why domestic violence advocacy groups ALL said that Janae SHOULD NOT have been @ that meeting!




NOT when you're dealing with a pro athlete it isn't, remember that we are talking about people WHO ARE PAID to work out and build their muscle mass to many times that of the average person, the SAME applies to Adrian Peterson, a few hits from a switch from him vs. a few hits from a switch from you or I are two COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS, they are athletes who compete on a level way above regular people, TRUST that a slap from Ray Rice vs a slap from a regular person are two different things!



There DEFINITELY is some sort of cover-up, but it seems more to me that what they're covering is the fact that they've ALWAYS treated these situations as "Boys will be Boys", the problem is much more systemic, rather than just Roger himself, the bottom line is ALWAYS the bottom line, the NFL was MUCH MORE about keeping these players ON THE FIELD rather than actually helping them resolve their personal issues, in a world where EVERYTHING done in the dark seems to come out in the light it seems far-fetched that, if they saw the video, that the punishment would've been so light, as I said earlier, the more damning tidbit here is the fact that NO ONE actually seemed to care about investigating this situation thoroughly, AND THIS IS THEIR ADMITTED POSITION!!!



If they had done this, Goodell would've been out of a job already!!!

The actual thing that would've prevented all of this would've been a proper punishment to begin with, a 4 game suspension (or 6) to begin with, you simply can't justify getting caught with a joint/having weed in your system (which hurts NO ONE!) being a 4 game suspension, and COMPLETELY KNOCKING OUT a woman and dragging her out of an elevator like a rag doll only being worth 2, even though it is apples vs oranges, one of the fruits appears to have SIGNIFICANTLY higher value, which just shouldn't be the case!

Further, how can Goodell justify giving Big Ben 6 games when he's neither been charged nor convicted with no video, and only give Rice 2 games, even with it being his first offense?!?



Right, and THAT move BLUNTED ALL efforts to dismiss Goodell, not only did he admit his mistake, he also put in place a much tougher policy to address the issue BEFORE the tape became public, but this is where I have a problem!

How could Goodell suspend Rice indefinitely when, IN HIS OWN WORDS, a first offense is a 6 game suspension, exactly how is this any different from letting Wes Welker play last Sunday under the NFL's new drug policy that was just enacted last week?!?

Further, it was the NFL's duty to do their due diligence in investigating Rice, NOT RICE'S, so when they handed down their 2 game suspension, as far as Ray Rice is concerned, THAT WAS IT, NOTHING CHANGED FROM HIS POV so why should he be further punished for the same "crime" that he had already admitted to?!?

The BIGGEST problem that the Commish has had here is that this story unfolded, and keeps unfolding as the season goes on, NO OTHER LEAGUE has had to deal with their problems this way, when MLB was enbroiled in the steroids issue it began in the off-season.

Goodell handled this wrong from jump, no doubt, but if he stepped down is anyone else here worried about how "tight" the next Commish would be?!?

Okay semantics....Elevator or hallway.

either way they saw ever video that hotels cameras recorded.

she is actually part of security because she works directly for the vice president..she makes his appointments, reads his mail, screens his calls ect ect ect.....they usually have access to credit card info as well as passwords.

she isn't a pool secretary she is his assistant. and they are under confidentiality agreements. that is standard for assistants.

They didn't have to ask law enforcement since the hotel would have complied just as they would if a normal patron was suing them....Sure they could refuse and force a supeona but that is not likely.

I punched my wife and knocked her out....what else is there.....he didn't say I pushed her and she fell back and hit her head....I punched her and knocked her out.....

He trains to run and take tackles....that he is a pro athlete is not valid since he doesn't train to throw punches which is why Too Tall Jones wasn't shit as a boxer.


Goodell won't be out of a job until the owners who he works for say so.

He could have said we have concluded this was an isolated incident. We have spoken to all partied involved and there is nothing in his background to suggest this was anything other.

We have given him a 2 game and 500k fine and he is required to go to counseling yadda yadda yadda.

We have also developed a policy to address any further incidents of domestic violence.....

But instead they went from 2 games and fine and jumped over the 6 games required by their new policy to an indefinite ban.

ight, and THAT move BLUNTED ALL efforts to dismiss Goodell, not only did he admit his mistake, he also put in place a much tougher policy to address the issue BEFORE the tape became public, but this is where I have a problem!

How could Goodell suspend Rice indefinitely when, IN HIS OWN WORDS, a first offense is a 6 game suspension, exactly how is this any different from letting Wes Welker play last Sunday under the NFL's new drug policy that was just enacted last week?!?

Further, it was the NFL's duty to do their due diligence in investigating Rice, NOT RICE'S, so when they handed down their 2 game suspension, as far as Ray Rice is concerned, THAT WAS IT, NOTHING CHANGED FROM HIS POV so why should he be further punished for the same "crime" that he had already admitted to?!?

The BIGGEST problem that the Commish has had here is that this story unfolded, and keeps unfolding as the season goes on, NO OTHER LEAGUE has had to deal with their problems this way, when MLB was enbroiled in the steroids issue it began in the off-season.

Goodell handled this wrong from jump, no doubt, but if he stepped down is anyone else here worried about how "tight" the next Commish would be?!?

all true.



BTW

I am waiting for the outrage that calls for Solo to be banned from the Olympics and professional soccer in general.

They said jack shit about the judge who beat the shit out of his wife and beat his first wife as well then got a sweetheart deal that clears his record in 6 months. Who could sit on the bench and give me years in prison for doing just what he did.


This hasn't been about Ray Rice since it happened it is about providing cover for the NFL.