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These are all super impressive:




















Just based on the numbers presented here, I'm going with the David Robinson quadruple double as the most impressive statline above.

Looked it up-- he took 20 shots and also had two steals in a winning effort.




I was wondering how Wemby's statline compared to some of these-- I thought I might argue it could fuck with one of them but then I looked it up and saw he shot 9/22. Can't touch any of those with that efficiency.



Still, 9 blocks is fucking impressive. I imagine it is a record for most franchises.
 

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Embiid Suspended
Did the league go light on 76ers star's discipline?
76ers star Joel Embiid will be suspended for three games “for shoving a member of the media,” the NBA announced yesterday. In a statement announcing the discipline, league executive vice president and head of basketball operations Joe Dumars explained: “Mutual respect is paramount to the relationship between players and media in the NBA. While we understand Joel was offended by the personal nature of the original version of the reporter’s column, interactions must remain professional on both sides and can never turn physical.”

Embiid hasn’t played this season but has already amassed a technical foul and this suspension, plus the 1-5 76ers were fined $100,000 for misrepresenting the reason for his absence from the court. Embiid’s suspension will begin when he is eligible and able to play. Many were hearing Embiid would be available as early as tonight to make his season debut. If that’s the case and he’s active, his suspension will commence immediately. The 76ers begin their NBA Cup slate after the next three games. What a coincidence — he’ll be back to pursue the NBA Cup!

Am I surprised by the length of this suspension? Yes, a little. I thought it would be about five games. Commissioner Adam Silver is notoriously softer on players than his predecessor David Stern was. However, the fact Embiid made contact with a media member in the locker room and made threats about what he’d “do to” the reporter “next time,” made me think Embiid would get a bit harsher of a penalty than three games.

Should I have been surprised? Not at all. On the night of the incident, a friend of mine in a group chat made a prediction about the suspension not interfering with the NBA Cup schedule. I don’t know if the NBA Cup is truly a no-fly zone for suspensions or harsher penalties. But it’s a funny theory to consider.

Is this issue behind us now? It is. I don’t expect Embiid to let this spill over into the rest of the season. Hopefully, he’ll be around to play Nov. 12, when the Sixers host the Knicks for group play in the NBA Cup. That would be a rematch of their playoff series from the first round – not bad for a potential season debut. While we wait to see him, you can check out this excerpt on Embiid from “The Basketball 100,” The Athletic’s upcoming book that ranks the 100 greatest NBA players of all time.
 

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Embiid Suspended
Did the league go light on 76ers star's discipline?
76ers star Joel Embiid will be suspended for three games “for shoving a member of the media,” the NBA announced yesterday. In a statement announcing the discipline, league executive vice president and head of basketball operations Joe Dumars explained: “Mutual respect is paramount to the relationship between players and media in the NBA. While we understand Joel was offended by the personal nature of the original version of the reporter’s column, interactions must remain professional on both sides and can never turn physical.”

Embiid hasn’t played this season but has already amassed a technical foul and this suspension, plus the 1-5 76ers were fined $100,000 for misrepresenting the reason for his absence from the court. Embiid’s suspension will begin when he is eligible and able to play. Many were hearing Embiid would be available as early as tonight to make his season debut. If that’s the case and he’s active, his suspension will commence immediately. The 76ers begin their NBA Cup slate after the next three games. What a coincidence — he’ll be back to pursue the NBA Cup!

Am I surprised by the length of this suspension? Yes, a little. I thought it would be about five games. Commissioner Adam Silver is notoriously softer on players than his predecessor David Stern was. However, the fact Embiid made contact with a media member in the locker room and made threats about what he’d “do to” the reporter “next time,” made me think Embiid would get a bit harsher of a penalty than three games.

Should I have been surprised? Not at all. On the night of the incident, a friend of mine in a group chat made a prediction about the suspension not interfering with the NBA Cup schedule. I don’t know if the NBA Cup is truly a no-fly zone for suspensions or harsher penalties. But it’s a funny theory to consider.

Is this issue behind us now? It is. I don’t expect Embiid to let this spill over into the rest of the season. Hopefully, he’ll be around to play Nov. 12, when the Sixers host the Knicks for group play in the NBA Cup. That would be a rematch of their playoff series from the first round – not bad for a potential season debut. While we wait to see him, you can check out this excerpt on Embiid from “The Basketball 100,” The Athletic’s upcoming book that ranks the 100 greatest NBA players of all time.

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Joel Embiid’s 3-game suspension was just, but NBA still has a problem to solve​

WILMINGTON, DE - OCTOBER 20: Joel Embiid #21 of the Philadelphia 76ers signs autographs during an open practice on October 20, 2024 at Chase Fieldhouse in Wilmington, Delaware. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2024 NBAE (Photo byJesse D. Garrabranty/NBAE via Getty Images)

By David Aldridge
Nov 5, 2024
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Three games is right for Joel Embiid.
A one-game suspension for the 2023 NBA Most Valuable Player shoving a Philadelphia Inquirer columnist in a postgame incident Saturday night would have been too light, a slap on the wrist for putting his hands on Marcus Hayes, no matter how incendiary Hayes’ recent columns have been, or how callous Hayes was in initially bringing up Embiid’s late brother in a column last month. You still can’t knuckle up with the media when they write or say things you don’t like. But five games or more would have made too much out of what wasn’t a punch, or punches. A shove is rude and a shock to the system, but even one from a 7-foot-2, 270-pound man doesn’t break bones or tear ligaments.
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The suspension will begin Wednesday in Los Angeles, where the 76ers will play the LA Clippers. The team had hoped that Embiid would finally make his season debut in Steve Ballmer’s $2 billion Intuit Dome. But now, he has to sit out three games, beginning with the first one for which he is eligible and healthy. That means he’d be able to play on Nov. 12 in Philadelphia against the New York Knicks on the first night of the, uh, Emirates Cup.
But what isn’t resolved by the suspension is the still-smoldering dichotomy between the NBA and its teams, one made even starker as the league embarks on its new 11-year, $76 billion extravaganza of a media-rights deal that tips off with the 2025-26 season.
Clearly, the NBA has heard the wails from its national TV partners, both current and future, about marquee players missing big games in the Tuesday through Friday night windows for games aired by ESPN or TNT. The league was not thrilled when an ESPN story last month detailed the 76ers’ plans to hold Embiid out of back-to-back games during the regular season. When the league fined the team $100,000, it said the 76ers were “inconsistent” in their public statements about Embiid’s readiness for the regular season as he rehabbed his left knee.
Come on. It was because Philly told the truth about its plans for its superstar center and for splash free agent signing Paul George during the regular season: They would be held out of at least one end of most of the Sixers’ back-to-backs during the year.
The league has leaned, incessantly, into making the regular season mean more in the last couple of years. The league’s Player Participation Policy for most of the league’s top individual awards, implemented in 2023, and the, uh, Emirates Cup, were two big markers. But, the NBA officially opining, earlier this year, that its own data over the last decade didn’t show load management actually prevented injuries, was the biggest change. It was a 180-degree turn from its long-held, avowed position, which NBA Commissioner Adam Silver himself continued arguing as late as the 2023 All-Star Game in Utah, that the league’s teams had autonomy over when and how much their players played, based on the proprietary medical information they collected on them.
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That has changed.
You ask teams around the league, and they’ll tell you that the NBA isn’t insensitive to the idea that teams need to manage their best players, including holding out key players from time to time. But they need to be kept in the loop. They hate being surprised.
But the league can’t have it both ways. It knows full well that its teams don’t extend grace to coaches and general managers who don’t win championships or consistently make the playoffs, and especially as more and more teams are bought by rarely patient hedge fund owners and corporations. Lots of people deride Ringzz Culture as antiquated, and yet, Embiid is still clowned because he’s never lifted his team to an Eastern Conference final in his eight active seasons, much less an NBA Finals. Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown have been big, big winners in Boston since they got to town, but they had to win a championship in Boston to be considered “real” Celtics, worthy of the team’s winning heritage.
Embiid has made hundreds of millions of dollars, including earning a $193-million extension in September. But he’s rarely gotten to April and May healthy. One of the rare times he did, Kawhi Leonard, then playing in Toronto, took Embiid and the Sixers out in Game 7 of the 2019 Eastern semis. A healthy Kawhi then led the Raptors to their first NBA title, over Golden State.
Neither has rarely been as healthy in the postseason since. Which is the point.
 

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Yeah, they went light on disciplining embiid when it could've been much worse.

The sixers and embiid have to change their ways because it's not looking good with all this mess going on.

Adam Silver basically gave them a warning, now if they do something dumb again, I expect it to be harsh next time.

Understood

I still want Hayes to be punished too.
 
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