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guyver

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That benchwarmer could work just as hard with the same dedication as Kobe. We don't know because it's rarely talked about unless the player is a superstar. Dedication to your craft is only one of the boxes you have to check to be good at something.

Babies feel emotion by instinct. No one has to teach them how to cry when they're hungry or their diapers are soiled. If they didn't have this ability most would starve to death within 3 months.

The difference from an AI image and the cartoons you speak of is that they are created by humans who intuitively understand that these emotions. The reason it hurts when Optimus prime or Bambi's mother dies is because the screenplays are written by writers who know first hand what it's like to feel that kind of loss. Dialogue is expressed by actors who felt the same. The background music is performed by musicians and composers who understand how to express this loss through music. The animators have a limited pallet compared to a human face, but when you add these elements together it creates an emotional scene.

I don't know Tyler Perry's intentions with AI. What I can tell you that using it for background performers is no small thing.

I was one of about 300 crowd extras in the Kurt Russell movie miracle. They had a sit in a section of the Vancouver Agrodome while they filmed a series of scenes. 3 hours later they would have us move to a different section and film in the scenes again. In post the used CGI to blend the shots and make it look like the stadium was full. It took 6 weeks.

The extras are cheap, but the production also pays the crew, actors, and support staff. If they could have used AI to simulate the crowd in some of those shots and cut the shot down to two or three weeks it could have saved millions.

Best of all, they wouldn't run afoul of SAG or IATSE because the tech doesn't replace anyone they represent. At worst they might negotiate a higher hourly rate to make up for the lack of downtime. Even if they did the production still saves money and the talent gets paid more for less work so it's a win.

But no. I don't think it will ever be possible or practical to replace a supporting or lead actor.

The point is the bench player doesn't necessarily work on his craft. For the record, im not saying that is universally true. It's just an example of someone who puts in their 8 hours and nothing more. It goes without saying someone can change their behavior. My real point is there are people who just show up for work and there are people who strive to be the best or love what they do. There are people who care enough about their craft that they'll do it for nothing.

Taking it back to rap JCole is an example of a rapper who seems to take his craft seriously. I didn't want to get into who fits what I'm describing, but Blueface doesn't seem to care about his craft and more or less said as much. An extreme example that I shouldn't use , but what are the chances Chrisean Roc really cares about her craft. Not saying JCole wouldn't use AI when it benefits, but I don't see him allowing AI to write for him or replace him so he can avoid going in the booth. I could see the other two doing that especially since Chrisean is more of an entertainer. I'm clearly going to the bottom, but that is what I've been speaking on.

Babies do not instinctively understand emotions. They learn them from you. That is why you are encouraged to interact with your babies. If you are thinking of crying as an display of emotions, initially it is not. It's just their method of communicating.

The AI is not creating things on its own. Humans are telling the AI what it wants. The humans will then decide what is useful or what needs to be modified. You are talking as if the AI is sentient. That's is not what I'm speaking on. In this instance, AI is not operating independently of the human. The elements you believe the AI would miss will be corrected by humans. Even with that, AI seems to be moving so fast that human intervention may happen less and less over time.

From the perspective of what our original point of showing human emotions, yes background actors is a small thing. My point was you didn't seem to be looking at actors as a whole and seemed to be strictly focused lead actors. However, I still stand by my stance the AI will be able to replicate human enough for lead roles. Again, any error the AI creates would be modified by a human. The way you are talking is like whatever the AI creates I'd the finale product and there's nothing that can be changed.

Like I said before, the different guilds are already considering the threat of AI. That said, the guilds are basically unions right. I don't know that studios have to listen. They likely will, but that doesn't speak to the independent movie/tv creators. AI in general would need to be addressed by law makers who seem to be more focused on issues that should be left to the individual citizen. The politicians seem to be more concerned about how elections will be impacted from AI rather than other aspects of society. I don't recall hearing much from them until America's favorite white girl Taylor Swift was negatively impacted.
 

Dannyblueyes

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The point is the bench player doesn't necessarily work on his craft. For the record, im not saying that is universally true. It's just an example of someone who puts in their 8 hours and nothing more. It goes without saying someone can change their behavior. My real point is there are people who just show up for work and there are people who strive to be the best or love what they do. There are people who care enough about their craft that they'll do it for nothing.

Taking it back to rap JCole is an example of a rapper who seems to take his craft seriously. I didn't want to get into who fits what I'm describing, but Blueface doesn't seem to care about his craft and more or less said as much. An extreme example that I shouldn't use , but what are the chances Chrisean Roc really cares about her craft. Not saying JCole wouldn't use AI when it benefits, but I don't see him allowing AI to write for him or replace him so he can avoid going in the booth. I could see the other two doing that especially since Chrisean is more of an entertainer. I'm clearly going to the bottom, but that is what I've been speaking on.

Babies do not instinctively understand emotions. They learn them from you. That is why you are encouraged to interact with your babies. If you are thinking of crying as an display of emotions, initially it is not. It's just their method of communicating.

The AI is not creating things on its own. Humans are telling the AI what it wants. The humans will then decide what is useful or what needs to be modified. You are talking as if the AI is sentient. That's is not what I'm speaking on. In this instance, AI is not operating independently of the human. The elements you believe the AI would miss will be corrected by humans. Even with that, AI seems to be moving so fast that human intervention may happen less and less over time.

From the perspective of what our original point of showing human emotions, yes background actors is a small thing. My point was you didn't seem to be looking at actors as a whole and seemed to be strictly focused lead actors. However, I still stand by my stance the AI will be able to replicate human enough for lead roles. Again, any error the AI creates would be modified by a human. The way you are talking is like whatever the AI creates I'd the finale product and there's nothing that can be changed.

Like I said before, the different guilds are already considering the threat of AI. That said, the guilds are basically unions right. I don't know that studios have to listen. They likely will, but that doesn't speak to the independent movie/tv creators. AI in general would need to be addressed by law makers who seem to be more focused on issues that should be left to the individual citizen. The politicians seem to be more concerned about how elections will be impacted from AI rather than other aspects of society. I don't recall hearing much from them until America's favorite white girl Taylor Swift was negatively impacted.

Some politicians are. Here's a story about a bill introduced in Tennessee.


Entertainment is big money so states want to make sure that their workers and industries are protected.

Even if AI did have the ability to replace actors wholesale there's a lot more to consider than just the ability to do so.

Going back to my fast food example, the technology to replace human burger flippers has been available for well over a decade. The reason that it hasn't been adopted is that a single unit cost as much as a house. The renovations you would have to make to accommodate these units cost even more. If a human worker gets sick the others work harder or cover the shift. If your machine breaks down your whole operation stops until it can be fixed.

To make matters worse, the technology is advancing so fast that your competitors could buy a cheaper, more capable unit 2 years down the road. That's why most of the automation is limited to kiosks and it will probably be that way for a while.

I could see large scale AI facing similar bottlenecks.

As for Taylor, people wouldn't have cared so much if there wasn't black men in those pictures. I also think it's interesting that she hasn't commented on any of this.
 
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guyver

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Some politicians are. Here's a story about a bill introduced in Tennessee.


Entertainment is big money so states want to make sure that their workers and industries are protected.

Even if AI did have the ability to replace actors wholesale there's a lot more to consider than just the ability to do so.

Going back to my fast food example, the technology to replace human burger flippers has been available for well over a decade. The reason that it hasn't been adopted is that a single unit cost as much as a house. The renovations you would have to make to accommodate these units cost even more. If a human worker gets sick the others work harder or cover the shift. If your machine breaks down your whole operation stops until it can be fixed.

To make matters worse, the technology is advancing so fast that your competitors could buy a cheaper, more capable unit 2 years down the road. That's why most of the automation is limited to kiosks and it will probably be that way for a while.

I could see large scale AI facing similar bottlenecks.

As for Taylor, people wouldn't have cared so much if there wasn't black men in those pictures. I also think it's interesting that she hasn't commented on any of this.
I'm not talking about people caring. I'm saying from a media perspective politicians haven't been as focused on AI until the Taylor Swift incident. I'm saying it should be more of a focus; not that there aren't already eyes on it. For example, had Andrew Yang been president, he would be more focused on the technology than Joe Biden and by proxy other politicians. This is something that should be the focus at the federal level; not the state. Not saying the first time the White House spoke on AI, but why did they sound the alarm when a pop artists get targeted. This isn't the first time fake sexual explicit pictures of entertainers have hit the net. I'm saying the government shouldn't be reactive. Is congress going to have multiple bullshit talks with AI companies like they do with the social media companies. Congress spoke with OpenAI already. Not saying they aren't but the focus should be creating regulations before trouble occurs; not making a circus of the potential issue.

Part of the reason automation has taken over is that it isn't 100% reliable. In production environments, you end up hiring people you fired to help with the machine or waste the machine creates that the machine was supposed to replace. If the technology worked better, they wouldn't care about the cost long-term. Now you have an expensive machine that doesn't perform like the manufacturer claimed and the additional staff. In manufacturing, the workers are doing less manual labor and are more so watching the machines. It's not just something like hourly rate for each person that would be reduced but their full compensation/benefits. That's before factoring in the waste created by human error. For large companies, the cost would be justified. McDonald's already forces it's franchises to take on certain store changes at the franchises expense, so McDonald's isn't incurring the full charge to my understanding. There is also the customer service component for store fronts. People don't want to deal with machines when there is an issue.

From a movie point of view, I don't know that you have the same type of concerns to address as manufacturers or storefronts like McDonald's. In my mind, your employees would go from actors, cameraman etc.. to people who know how to use end user version of AI software. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be much different than changes in manufacturing. The tools of the trade change and people aquire new skills for the work.

From a artist standpoint, this may not be the worse thing. Their art has more value because it's being created and or performed by humans. Kind of like the value of clothing or other products being labeled as premium because they are handcrafted.
 

Gemini

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A.I must be stopped lol
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COINTELPRO

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She appeared in movies that utilized my NIL where she made millions. It happens to her and it is lawyer time.

I would have declined because I want no involvement or just the bare minimum with them.

Quit putting some black piece of shit actor to cover for you.
 

COINTELPRO

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I work for Open AI making millions, using her voice without permission. Than I get robbed by another company stealing my NIL. Would that be hypocritical demanding payment?

I laughed at the actor strike, crying about pay which is hypocritical.

Stop taking my shit, I don't want any involvement with you.
 
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