Harris also owns the NJ Devils. Let me ask you a question: how long until he gets bored of paying rent for the Devils?
Philadelphia 76ers Opted Out On Building Arena In Center City
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That was never a serious option. The State of New Jersey would not have voted in favor of it. Harris is not paying for everything on his own although he said he would. Meaning the State of New Jersey would have to pay money. Hes lying. This would never have been approved the league either. Remember, relocation needs approval from the league and the other owners. That would have never been approved. Harris paid politicians to push this deal ahead. We're not talking enough about how much of a rat he really is. The mayor and the unions benefit from this deal. Not the fans. Season tickets are gonna skyrocket as a result of this.
Can you imagine going to a show at City Winery same night as the game? Where in the fuck is anyone going to park? People aren't thinking full scale about this. 
Yeah, but wells fargo is outdated, they need to tear it down and build a new arena. The phillies and eagles stadium are the only 2 that's updated.And it should have stayed this way!!!
It's not outdated. Nothing wrong with that stadium at all. Harris could care less about the fans experience. He wants a new arena to raise the value of the franchise. That's it. How many fans have complained about the arena? Haven't heard one. Harris is the devil walkin' amongst us and it needs to be amplified times 100. Sixers will get tax dollars from the city. Not sure about the State though. Parking will be at least $60 if not more!!!! Think about this in totality Jawn.
You got great points, and you're correct in your statement but there's nothing we can do about it.It's not outdated. Nothing wrong with that stadium at all. Harris could care less about the fans experience. He wants a new arena to raise the value of the franchise. That's it. How many fans have complained about the arena? Haven't heard one. Harris is the devil walkin' amongst us and it needs to be amplified times 100. Sixers will get tax dollars from the city. Not sure about the State though. Parking will be at least $60 if not more!!!! Think about this in totality Jawn.
The sixers don't want to be tenants with the flyers and I do feel the sixers should have their own arena but I will say this, they could at least moved it where there's plenty of parking and most people suggested the navy yard.
We knew that the mayor was gonna give the sixers owner what they want especially when they have billions.
Yes the parking will be $60 but the septa EL will be high as well when those new cars start to come on the scene.
By the time 2031 comes, everything will be high as shit regardless.
But like you said the owners wanted this the same way they wanted a practice facility of their own that they needed at the time.
To be honest, that area of Chinatown and the (former) Gallery was not too nice for a long time ( think since the late 80s-90s). Even with the Center City renovations over the past few years, it wasn't nice. At night, a part of it was dark with few street lights, with homeless people, prostitution, rats (big ones), porn shops, etc. The stadium would be a major upgrade. Yes, parking will be expensive, but many people would be using SEPTA anyway. The stadium would be a stimulus for other things to build there, such as shops, restaurants, etc. Maybe Chinatown could get an upgrade as well.
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Exactly, the only people who have a problem with the center city location are the ones who only know how to drive and don't use transportation.To be honest, that area of Chinatown and the (former) Gallery was not too nice for a long time ( think since the late 80s-90s). Even with the Center City renovations over the past few years, it wasn't nice. At night, in part of it was dark with few street lights, with homeless people, prostitution, rats (big ones), porn shops, etc. The stadium would be a major upgrade. Yes, parking will be expensive, but many people would be using SEPTA anyway. The stadium would be a stimulus for other things to build there, such as shops, restaurants, etc. Maybe Chinatown could get an upgrade as well.
Like I said, I'm cool with it because I want to ride the new EL when they finally come out and I know my way around philly to be able to catch transportation without a problem and it saves you money from not having to deal with parking. So, all you would need is sixers tickets and fare to got to the game and come home catching the EL.
It's definitely gonna be easy for public transportation. And I'd bet they were excited about the Center City arena because they're gonna make back a lot of the bread they lost during Covid.
If you're in North, NE, Frankford, West, you got the sub or the el.
If you're out SW, those trolleys will take you right to 13th.
All the suburbs have a regional rail line close that'll take you right to 11th Street.
Same for if you're in Wilmington, Trenton, and Chester.
If you're out in the section of the Main Line close to Norristown High Speed, that shit takes you to 69th and then you hop the El
If you're in Camden or Camden County, hop the PATCO Speed Line to 8th or 13th
If you're in Jersey toward the shore, hop the Atlantic City NJT train to 30th and then the El three stops.
exactly, I like how you broke it down and I know just about almost all those different ways to take the EL since I've taken transportation for years, I still drive when I need to do so.
But getting to game will be much easier and you don't have to worry about being in traffic nor trying to find a parking spot then have to walk to the game depending on how far you park.
Now just catching the EL, you just walk to the game with no problem.
That was never a serious option. The State of New Jersey would not have voted in favor of it. Harris is not paying for everything on his own although he said he would. Meaning the State of New Jersey would have to pay money. Hes lying. This would never have been approved the league either. Remember, relocation needs approval from the league and the other owners. That would have never been approved. Harris paid politicians to push this deal ahead. We're not talking enough about how much of a rat he really is. The mayor and the unions benefit from this deal. Not the fans. Season tickets are gonna skyrocket as a result of this.
That parking situation is gonna be a mess and so public transportation. Well all the ubers are gonna be getting does since folks gone just catch an uber from work or home to the game. I liked the old location you had everything there. All the teams and plenty of parking. It was a few yrs ago me and bm drove there, eat our food in the car, got high, and walked right in during shootaround. Leave that muthafucka had traffic but I full expect that. The bars, clubs, and restaurants around city center will be clockin doe during game nights at the new location. The day of having all or three teams in one parking lot of dying. Look at what they did in Oakland. Had the A's, Warrios, and Raiders in one lot then boom all gone.
Yup. And you can get right on the highway and go from the current location. Center City is gonna be a disaster with this. Not to mention the increase in crime there as well.
I havent been on the train in years.
You can also take the NJ Transit Light Rail from Trenton to Camden
If you're in Camden or Camden County, hop the PATCO Speed Line to 8th or 13th.
If you're in Jersey toward the shore, hop the Atlantic City NJT train to 30th and then the El three stops
If you get to 30th Street Station coming from the North (New York or Boston) via Amtrak you can take the Septa Regional Rail to Market Square East (Gallery) (Jefferson Station)
If you are coming from the airport you can also take the AIR Regional Rail
Delaware - Septa Train to 30th Street to Market Square East (Gallery) (Jefferson Station)
Its easier to take Public Transportation to get into Center City than the Stadium Complex. However after a game ir concert I like to jump in my car and head over Walt Whitman
Philly Mayor Parker unveils plans, legislative package for proposed 76ers arena complex
The mayor held her second town hall in a week to provide further details about how the city is approaching the next steps in redeveloping the swath of real estate that cuts across the Market East and Chinatown neighborhoods.
Philadelphia Mayor Cherelle Parker unveiled details of her administration’s agreement with the Philadelphia 76ers Wednesday night, one week after she announced her approval for the long-debated Center City arena.
Parker touted an economic opportunity plan that includes a $50 million community benefits agreement and the potential creation of 1,000 jobs for the proposal, which encompasses an 18,000-seat arena and entertainment complex – featuring residential, retail and other spaces – that would replace the current Fashion District.
“It is a historic agreement. It’s the best sports facility agreement in Philadelphia’s history,” Parker said beginning Wednesday’s meeting. “It keeps our hometown 76ers playing in Philadelphia at least until 2061…What else makes it historic? The Sixers are financing (the) project with no city funds – that is an approach that is unprecedented among our local sports facilities.”
The details come one week after her decision was announced in a video statement and two weeks after the town hall meeting where city officials heard from hundreds of residents and groups regarding the proposed redevelopment of what is now the Fashion District in the Market East area.
The legislative package – posted on the city website – includes nine bills and two resolutions related to land transfers, zoning shifts, and an arrangement for the Sixers to pay the city PILOTs, or payments in lieu of property taxes.
The agreement would land the 76ers in the city’s Market East neighborhood for 30 years – from 2031 to 2061 – after the team’s lease with the Wells Fargo Center expires. The team has pointed toward scheduling conflicts with the Philadelphia Flyers and the need for a state-of-the-art arena to compete nationally as the primary reasons for wanting out of the South Philadelphia sports complex.
The $1.55 billion Center City complex – the most recent development project proposed for Philadelphia’s Market Street East and Chinatown neighborhoods – has received massive pushback from nearby residents and community advocates, who argue such a project would forever change the community and culture of one of the nation’s oldest Chinatowns.
Parker touted the agreement as not only a promising development project but a revitalization opportunity for the city. She said the 76ers would pay the city an average of $6 million a year for the next 30 years through property and other taxes. Parker and her administration also stressed that there would be no public funding going toward the arena construction and agreement terms.
“I’m extremely excited about the potential that this agreement has to offer for the City of Philadelphia,” Parker told reporters following a press conference on Sept. 24. “Market Street, from City Hall to the river, represents Philadelphia’s first commercial quarter in the entire city. This will serve, I believe, as a revival of Market Street…an economic revival.”
The $50 million community benefits agreement the city negotiated with the 76ers, half of which will go directly to impacted neighborhoods in the immediate vicinity of the project at 10th and Market Streets, includes: $3 million for a Chinatown small business lending fund, $1.6 million in grants to businesses impacted by construction, $2 million for neighborhood businesses that want to work with the arena, $4.1 million for security cameras, lighting and a substation for law enforcement, $1.25 million for a commercial corridor cleaning program, $3 million for public transit incentives and $7 million to support extended-year schooling – one of Parker’s campaign priorities.
Posters at the public presentation showed construction in two phases – beginning in 2027 and 2030, respectively. Phase I would be the arena site and south side of the 1000 block of Market, which will include 380 residential units, 28,000 square feet of retail space and 127 parking spaces. Phase 2 would include the south side of the 900 block of Market Street, more than 400,000 square feet of retail space and 114 parking spaces. There are additional hotel, retail and other business spaces along Market Street as well.
With the mayor’s go-ahead and City Council back in legislative session, the arena legislation and hearing process may begin sooner rather than later.
The major policy players in City Hall include Parker, Council President Kenyatta Johnson and Councilmember Mark Squilla, who represents the Center City area where the arena would be situated and has the councilmanic prerogative – a tradition of allowing City Council members to control land-use decisions in their own districts – to determine its future.
Squilla, who previously said the public would be able to see draft versions of the bills for 30 days before he officially introduces them, confirmed with City & State his promise would be kept. The mayor’s meeting and agreement unveiling comes just in time, with Parker stating that the legislation will be introduced on October 24.
In an interview with City & State, Squilla said a variety of issues – from affordable housing and zoning to historical preservation and small business protection – are being considered as part of the legislative package and any community-benefit agreement made with the Chinatown neighborhood.
“The cultural aspect was one of the major things (residents) want to hold onto. When you go down to the specifics (with) congestion, traffic, parking, transportation – how all that would work – there are major concerns,” Squilla said prior to Wednesday’s public meeting, noting that concerns could be addressed in the community benefit agreement or companion bills to the arena legislative package. “We've had over 20 meetings with either community members (and) stakeholders to listen to all those concerns. The proof in the pudding will be if any of those concerns are addressed once the legislation is introduced. And I think that's our job, once we get the legislation, to see what's included, what's not, and what needs to be added.”
The Philadelphia Inquirer reported that Chinatown and community group leaders chose not to attend the meeting as a protest against a project they say does not consider community input. “It’s a rushed, haphazard process,” Vivian Chang, executive director of advocacy group Asian Americans United, said. “This is the third last-minute meeting she’s called in as many weeks.”
The Sixers have said that should the related legislation passed by the end of this year, the team’s plan would be to start demolishing the western third of the Fashion District in 2026.
Philly Mayor Parker unveils plans, legislative package for proposed 76ers arena complex
The mayor held her second town hall in a week to provide further details about how the city is approaching the next steps in redeveloping the swath of real estate that cuts across the Market East and Chinatown neighborhoods.
www.cityandstatepa.com
You gotta be fucking kidding me!
Unpopular opinion time/ soap box time:
Fuck the 2nd Rounders and fuck this new arena! They're gonna to demolish Chinatown and for what? Winners build new shit! Actual contenders get shiney new buildings.
Charles Barkley was drafted a 76ers, went on to have a HOF career as both a player and commentator over 40 or so years. And in that time, the 76ers went to exactly one Finals and won exactly one game. They can't even get out of the 2nd round!
Any of you people saying Wells Fargo is outdated wanna explain how? One of the many problems with the modern NBA is that the owners are taking ideas from the NFL.
Why build an basketball arena, when you can have an basketball arena/ concert hall/ aquarium/ multiple 5 star restaurants with celebrity chefs? It's the reason ticket prices are so damn outrageous.
I don't care that's Wells Fargo can't also host a Beyonce concert, an aquarium, and a Flyers game during a sixers games. Fuck these greedy owners and their bullshit reasons for needing a tax funded new arena.
"We was gonna have to move to New Jersey
"
Fuck you! Give us tax dollars or we'll have to move to another state is the oldest trick in the book. Nobody was every going to Jersey. The Nets, Mets, nor Jets want anything to do with the place. You build an arena in Jersey and you get a huge tax break and a 2hr wait in the turnpike to get in or out of that bitch. Fuck Jersey and Fuck the Sixers.
I hope an old Asian grandma down Chinatown puts a hex on the damn organization, Steven King 'Thinner' style.
Y'all wanted knock down historical Chinatown, well here you go.
Enjoy the next 50 years, asshole!
Unpopular opinion time/ soap box time:
Fuck the 2nd Rounders and fuck this new arena! They're gonna to demolish Chinatown and for what? Winners build new shit! Actual contenders get shiney new buildings.
Charles Barkley was drafted a 76ers, went on to have a HOF career as both a player and commentator over 40 or so years. And in that time, the 76ers went to exactly one Finals and won exactly one game. They can't even get out of the 2nd round!
Any of you people saying Wells Fargo is outdated wanna explain how? One of the many problems with the modern NBA is that the owners are taking ideas from the NFL.
Why build an basketball arena, when you can have an basketball arena/ concert hall/ aquarium/ multiple 5 star restaurants with celebrity chefs? It's the reason ticket prices are so damn outrageous.
I don't care that's Wells Fargo can't also host a Beyonce concert, an aquarium, and a Flyers game during a sixers games. Fuck these greedy owners and their bullshit reasons for needing a tax funded new arena.
"We was gonna have to move to New Jersey
"Fuck you! Give us tax dollars or we'll have to move to another state is the oldest trick in the book. Nobody was every going to Jersey. The Nets, Mets, nor Jets want anything to do with the place. You build an arena in Jersey and you get a huge tax break and a 2hr wait in the turnpike to get in or out of that bitch. Fuck Jersey and Fuck the Sixers.
I hope an old Asian grandma down Chinatown puts a hex on the damn organization, Steven King 'Thinner' style.
Y'all wanted knock down historical Chinatown, well here you go.
Enjoy the next 50 years, asshole!
Sorry for the rant ya'll, but cotdamn. I'm at my wit's end the Process, Joel, and the whole lot of them. Now this shit.
I seriously want bad things to happen to this organization right now.
I seriously want bad things to happen to this organization right now.
You gotta be fucking kidding me!
Unpopular opinion time/ soap box time:
Fuck the 2nd Rounders and fuck this new arena! They're gonna to demolish Chinatown and for what? Winners build new shit! Actual contenders get shiney new buildings.
Charles Barkley was drafted a 76ers, went on to have a HOF career as both a player and commentator over 40 or so years. And in that time, the 76ers went to exactly one Finals and won exactly one game. They can't even get out of the 2nd round!
Any of you people saying Wells Fargo is outdated wanna explain how? One of the many problems with the modern NBA is that the owners are taking ideas from the NFL.
Why build an basketball arena, when you can have an basketball arena/ concert hall/ aquarium/ multiple 5 star restaurants with celebrity chefs? It's the reason ticket prices are so damn outrageous.
I don't care that's Wells Fargo can't also host a Beyonce concert, an aquarium, and a Flyers game during a sixers games. Fuck these greedy owners and their bullshit reasons for needing a tax funded new arena.
"We was gonna have to move to New Jersey
Fuck you! Give us tax dollars or we'll have to move to another state is the oldest trick in the book. Nobody was every going to Jersey. The Nets, Mets, nor Jets want anything to do with the place. You build an arena in Jersey and you get a huge tax break and a 2hr wait in the turnpike to get in or out of that bitch. Fuck Jersey and Fuck the Sixers.
I hope an old Asian grandma down Chinatown puts a hex on the damn organization, Steven King 'Thinner' style.
Y'all wanted knock down historical Chinatown, well here you go.
Enjoy the next 50 years, asshole!
You gotta be fucking kidding me!
Unpopular opinion time/ soap box time:
Fuck the 2nd Rounders and fuck this new arena! They're gonna to demolish Chinatown and for what? Winners build new shit! Actual contenders get shiney new buildings.
Charles Barkley was drafted a 76ers, went on to have a HOF career as both a player and commentator over 40 or so years. And in that time, the 76ers went to exactly one Finals and won exactly one game. They can't even get out of the 2nd round!
Any of you people saying Wells Fargo is outdated wanna explain how? One of the many problems with the modern NBA is that the owners are taking ideas from the NFL.
Why build an basketball arena, when you can have an basketball arena/ concert hall/ aquarium/ multiple 5 star restaurants with celebrity chefs? It's the reason ticket prices are so damn outrageous.
I don't care that's Wells Fargo can't also host a Beyonce concert, an aquarium, and a Flyers game during a sixers games. Fuck these greedy owners and their bullshit reasons for needing a tax funded new arena.
"We was gonna have to move to New Jersey
Fuck you! Give us tax dollars or we'll have to move to another state is the oldest trick in the book. Nobody was every going to Jersey. The Nets, Mets, nor Jets want anything to do with the place. You build an arena in Jersey and you get a huge tax break and a 2hr wait in the turnpike to get in or out of that bitch. Fuck Jersey and Fuck the Sixers.
I hope an old Asian grandma down Chinatown puts a hex on the damn organization, Steven King 'Thinner' style.
Y'all wanted knock down historical Chinatown, well here you go.
Enjoy the next 50 years, asshole!
None of that shit is my problem tho...Sorry for the rant ya'll, but cotdamn. I'm at my wit's end the Process, Joel, and the whole lot of them. Now this shit.
I seriously want bad things to happen to this organization right now.
Mayor Cherelle Parker said to chinatown......
i mean it's not like those billionaires care since they have plenty of money.
It was a black mayor that dropped a bomb on a black family in west Philly. Black mayors serve a purpose, ie, Eric adams.That was never a serious option. The State of New Jersey would not have voted in favor of it. Harris is not paying for everything on his own although he said he would. Meaning the State of New Jersey would have to pay money. Hes lying. This would never have been approved the league either. Remember, relocation needs approval from the league and the other owners. That would have never been approved. Harris paid politicians to push this deal ahead. We're not talking enough about how much of a rat he really is. The mayor and the unions benefit from this deal. Not the fans. Season tickets are gonna skyrocket as a result of this.
You gotta be fucking kidding me!
Unpopular opinion time/ soap box time:
Fuck the 2nd Rounders and fuck this new arena! They're gonna to demolish Chinatown and for what? Winners build new shit! Actual contenders get shiney new buildings.
Charles Barkley was drafted a 76ers, went on to have a HOF career as both a player and commentator over 40 or so years. And in that time, the 76ers went to exactly one Finals and won exactly one game. They can't even get out of the 2nd round!
Any of you people saying Wells Fargo is outdated wanna explain how? One of the many problems with the modern NBA is that the owners are taking ideas from the NFL.
Why build an basketball arena, when you can have an basketball arena/ concert hall/ aquarium/ multiple 5 star restaurants with celebrity chefs? It's the reason ticket prices are so damn outrageous.
I don't care that's Wells Fargo can't also host a Beyonce concert, an aquarium, and a Flyers game during a sixers games. Fuck these greedy owners and their bullshit reasons for needing a tax funded new arena.
"We was gonna have to move to New Jersey
Fuck you! Give us tax dollars or we'll have to move to another state is the oldest trick in the book. Nobody was every going to Jersey. The Nets, Mets, nor Jets want anything to do with the place. You build an arena in Jersey and you get a huge tax break and a 2hr wait in the turnpike to get in or out of that bitch. Fuck Jersey and Fuck the Sixers.
I hope an old Asian grandma down Chinatown puts a hex on the damn organization, Steven King 'Thinner' style.
Y'all wanted knock down historical Chinatown, well here you go.
Enjoy the next 50 years, asshole!
I'll kindly be jacking those soap box gifs. Thank you, my good man.
One last fuck you to the 2nd Rounders!
Ya'll remember the price jump when they went from the Spectrum to Wells Fargo? And Wells Fargo prices been creeping up for years.
The prices in the new place are going to be bananas. Expect the makeup of Sixers games crowd to look like GS going from Oracle to SF.
Seeing heartbroken Sixers fans is half the fun of watching Sixers playoff games and they're about to take that away too.
Ya'll remember the price jump when they went from the Spectrum to Wells Fargo? And Wells Fargo prices been creeping up for years.
The prices in the new place are going to be bananas. Expect the makeup of Sixers games crowd to look like GS going from Oracle to SF.
Seeing heartbroken Sixers fans is half the fun of watching Sixers playoff games and they're about to take that away too.
Embiid should pay yall for his lack of heart
I agree, he's a pussy that be on his period.