Politics: Democrats didn't lose the battle of 2010. They won it.

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Democrats didn't lose the battle of 2010. They won it.
By William Saletan
Posted Friday, Nov. 5, 2010, at 8:19 AM ET

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Nancy PelosiDemocrats have lost the House, and health care is getting the blame. Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, a retiring Democrat, says his party "overreached by focusing on health care rather than job creation" and by spending $1 trillion on "a major entitlement expansion." Sen. John McCain's economic adviser agrees. Pundits say the health care bill killed President Obama's approval ratings, cost congressional Democrats their jobs, and snuffed out the legacy of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. "Virtually every House Democrat from a swing district who took a gamble by voting for the health law made a bad political bet," says the New York Times. The Los Angeles Times laments that "the measure of a leader in Washington isn't how much gets done, it's who holds power in the end. On that scale, Pelosi failed."

I'm not buying the autopsy or the obituary. In the national exit poll, voters were split on health care. Unemployment is at nearly 10 percent. Democrats lost a lot of seats that were never really theirs, and those who voted against the bill lost at a higher rate than did those who voted for it. But if health care did cost the party its majority, so what? The bill was more important than the election.

I realize that sounds crazy. We've become so obsessed with who wins or loses in politics that we've forgotten what the winning and losing are about. Partisans fixate on punishing their enemies in the next campaign. Reporters, in the name of objectivity, refuse to judge anything but the Election Day score card. Politicians rationalize their self-preservation by imagining themselves as dynasty builders. They think this is the big picture.

They're wrong. The big picture isn't about winning or keeping power. It's about using it. I've made this argument before, but David Frum, the former speechwriter to President Bush, has made it better. In March, when Democrats secured enough votes to pass the bill, he castigated fellow conservatives who looked forward to punishing Pelosi and President Obama "with a big win in the November 2010 elections." Frum observed:

Legislative majorities come and go. This healthcare bill is forever. A win in November is very poor compensation for this debacle now. … No illusions please: This bill will not be repealed. Even if Republicans scored a 1994 style landslide in November, how many votes could we muster to re-open the "doughnut hole" and charge seniors more for prescription drugs? How many votes to re-allow insurers to rescind policies when they discover a pre-existing condition? How many votes to banish 25 year olds from their parents' insurance coverage?

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Exactly. A party that loses a House seat can win it back two years later, as Republicans just proved. But a party that loses a legislative fight against a middle-class health care entitlement never restores the old order. Pretty soon, Republicans will be claiming the program as their own. Indeed, one of their favorite arguments against this year's health care bill was that it would cut funding for Medicare. Now they're pledging to rescind those cuts. In 30 years, they'll be accusing Democrats of defunding Obamacare.

Most bills aren't more important than elections. This one was. Take it from Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader. Yesterday, in his election victory speech at the Heritage Foundation, he declared, "Health care was the worst piece of legislation that's passed during my time in the Senate." McConnell has been in the Senate for 26 years. He understands the bill's significance: It's a huge structural change in the relationship between the public, the economy, and the government.

Politicians have tried and failed for decades to enact universal health care. This time, they succeeded. In 2008, Democrats won the presidency and both houses of Congress, and by the thinnest of margins, they rammed a bill through. They weren't going to get another opportunity for a very long time. It cost them their majority, and it was worth it.

And that's not counting financial regulation, economic stimulus, college lending reform, and all the other bills that became law under Pelosi. So spare me the tears and gloating about her so-called failure. If John Boehner is speaker of the House for the next 20 years, he'll be lucky to match her achievements.

Will Republicans revisit health care? Sure. Will they enact some changes to the program? Yes, and Democrats will help them. Every program needs revisions. Republicans will get other things, too: business tax breaks, education reform, more nuclear power, and a crackdown on earmarks. These are issues on which both parties can agree. Which is why, if you're a Democrat, you deal with them after you've lost your majority—not before.

It's funny, in a twisted way, to read all the post-election complaints that Democrats lost because they thought only of themselves. Even the chief operating officer of the party's leading think tank, the Center for American Progress, says Obama failed to convince Americans "that he knows their jobs are as important as his." That's too bad, because Obama, Pelosi, and their congressional allies proved just the opposite. They risked their jobs—and in many cases lost them—to pass the health care bill. The elections were a painful defeat, and you can argue that the bill was misguided. But Democrats didn't lose the most important battle of 2010. They won it.

http://www.slate.com/id/2273708/
 
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A lot of people don't realize that in essence Bush sr. did the same thing.

He famously said "Read my lips, no new taxes" but realized that Reagan's policies and tax cuts were adding SOOOOO much to the federal deficit that he had no choice but to raise taxes, knowing that it would probably cost him re-election.

Bush had the highest approval ratings a sitting President has ever seen after our relatively quick victory in the Gulf War just to see his ratings tank and lose re-election due to the economy and in large part him reneging on his promise.

Sometimes politicians do things for the greater good.
 
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easily one of the dumbest articles I've ever read. I can't believe somebody got paid to write this shit...look at how it closed:

"It's funny, in a twisted way, to read all the post-election complaints that Democrats lost because they thought only of themselves. Even the chief operating officer of the party's leading think tank, the Center for American Progress, says Obama failed to convince Americans "that he knows their jobs are as important as his." That's too bad, because Obama, Pelosi, and their congressional allies proved just the opposite. They risked their jobs—and in many cases lost them—to pass the health care bill. The elections were a painful defeat, and you can argue that the bill was misguided. But Democrats didn't lose the most important battle of 2010. They won it."

this doesn't even make sense...but if it makes people "feel" better :dunno:
 
Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, a retiring Democrat, says his party "overreached by focusing on health care rather than job creation"

Bullshit. The President RAN ON THIS PLATFORM. It wasn't overreaching. The government can only create so many jobs. Why does private industry not get the blame for exporting MOST of the jobs overseas?
The Dems are bought and paid for. They HAVE to be. There is NO REASON AT ALL that the Health Care Bill shouldn't be a single payer system - the only REAL universal health care solution. The insurance companies have to have paid them off. There's no reasonable explanation. Well, there is one:
Americans are stupid as fuck.
 
Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, a retiring Democrat, says his party "overreached by focusing on health care rather than job creation"

Bullshit. The President RAN ON THIS PLATFORM. It wasn't overreaching. The government can only create so many jobs. Why does private industry not get the blame for exporting MOST of the jobs overseas?
The Dems are bought and paid for. They HAVE to be. There is NO REASON AT ALL that the Health Care Bill shouldn't be a single payer system - the only REAL universal health care solution. The insurance companies have to have paid them off. There's no reasonable explanation. Well, there is one:
Americans are stupid as fuck.

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bruh, I think all americans were on board initially, or they were indifferent...

but then they put the economy, wars, job creation on the back burner for half a year just to focus on this!?

what thinking person doesn't see that as being strange or odd? cmon now...and that's even before we get to some of the bullshit earmarks that were "snuck" into the bill :smh:
 
easily one of the dumbest articles I've ever read. I can't believe somebody got paid to write this shit...look at how it closed:

"It's funny, in a twisted way, to read all the post-election complaints that Democrats lost because they thought only of themselves. Even the chief operating officer of the party's leading think tank, the Center for American Progress, says Obama failed to convince Americans "that he knows their jobs are as important as his." That's too bad, because Obama, Pelosi, and their congressional allies proved just the opposite. They risked their jobs—and in many cases lost them—to pass the health care bill. The elections were a painful defeat, and you can argue that the bill was misguided. But Democrats didn't lose the most important battle of 2010. They won it."

this doesn't even make sense...but if it makes people "feel" better :dunno:

Makes sense to me....What don't you understand??
 
Makes sense to me....What don't you understand??

:confused::confused:

this is like a republican saying back in 06: "the elections were a defeat, and you can argue the war in iraq was misguided! but republicans won!!"

:confused: huh!? what!? :confused:

it's a silly and childish article man.
 
:confused::confused:

bruh, I think all americans were on board initially, or they were indifferent...

but then they put the economy, wars, job creation on the back burner for half a year just to focus on this!?

what thinking person doesn't see that as being strange or odd? cmon now...and that's even before we get to some of the bullshit earmarks that were "snuck" into the bill :smh:


Get outta here with that bullshit.
You hate President Obama. You are a hardcore Repube and have been going on and on against him since long before he got elected. Everything YOU say is taken with that in mind. Its not like anybody's expecting you to give him any credit.

He ran on the platform of Universal health care. He put it first because it was the biggest goal that would require the most work on legislation. That is a huge accomplishment even in its present form. Nobody could foresee all of the shit that happened with the banks but he handled that shit and the bailouts are finally working.
The wars are the big elephant in the room. We could fix the economy faster if we ended them both officially. He already pullled most of the troops out of Afghanastan.
This fake ass "war on terror" LIE bushshit is part of whats killing our economy but most Americans are so stupid they actually believe that there is a such thing as safety and that killing a bunch of brown people will make them safe. The war is a big ass money sucker and it needs to end. It would restore BILLIONS, maybe a trillion or two to our economy but Barack is too scared to make that bold move and earn his peace prize. The economy has NEVER been on the back burner. He had a crisis to deal with.
Job creation is not the government's primary function. The Dems are fucking up by not trying to kick the shit out of private industry with legislation that shits on them extensively for exporting jobs. Its time these corporate overlords felt the crunch for their treason.
 
Get outta here with that bullshit.
You hate President Obama. You are a hardcore Repube and have been going on and on against him since long before he got elected. Everything YOU say is taken with that in mind. Its not like anybody's expecting you to give him any credit.

He ran on the platform of Universal health care. He put it first because it was the biggest goal that would require the most work on legislation. That is a huge accomplishment even in its present form. Nobody could foresee all of the shit that happened with the banks but he handled that shit and the bailouts are finally working.
The wars are the big elephant in the room. We could fix the economy faster if we ended them both officially. He already pullled most of the troops out of Afghanastan.
This fake ass "war on terror" LIE bushshit is part of whats killing our economy but most Americans are so stupid they actually believe that there is a such thing as safety and that killing a bunch of brown people will make them safe. The war is a big ass money sucker and it needs to end. It would restore BILLIONS, maybe a trillion or two to our economy but Barack is too scared to make that bold move and earn his peace prize. The economy has NEVER been on the back burner. He had a crisis to deal with.
Job creation is not the government's primary function. The Dems are fucking up by not trying to kick the shit out of private industry with legislation that shits on them extensively for exporting jobs. Its time these corporate overlords felt the crunch for their treason.

excellent point but see here is real problem

ya'll are passionate and informed citizens who obviously are well informed and active...

unlike 90% of the nation who could care less

what do we do about them
 
He ran on the platform of Universal health care. He put it first because it was the biggest goal that would require the most work on legislation. That is a huge accomplishment even in its present form.

- see, your problem is that you are a buck-dancing alabama coon-jigger for the democrats.

niggas like you are killing the democratic party for black people, b/c you will NEVER question what they are doing b/c they are perfect in your eyes. you need to kill yourself but since you won't, read this:

that quote I pulled doesn't negate my point, it simply re-iterates it. the people were on board; but don't put jobs, two wars, and the economy on the back burner to talk about health care for half a damn year.

even democratic strategists agree that that was a dumbass move....but wait, they are racists too huh. :smh:
 
2012 will be here soon the GOP and TeaBaggers will do so much damage they'll be back, but will they go all the way for the people who vote them in or continue to play political games with the GOP
 
excellent point but see here is real problem

ya'll are passionate and informed citizens who obviously are well informed and active...

unlike 90% of the nation who could care less

what do we do about them

I have the answer but they won't do it. Obama is too middle-of-the-road to do it. If Dennis Kucinich were President, it might happen but not with Barack.
The answer is to do what the Bush administration did but in reverse.
Simply declare that "we won". Its been almost 10 tears since the September 11th 2001 mayhem during a REPUBLICAN presidency.
We have had no attacks since. WE WON. Start a campaign that basically pushes the idea forward that we have "moved on" and people will do it. The republicans have had Americans licking their wounds AND STILL ARE. Somebody could compile videos showing what has changed in 10 years (for the better) and get these simpletons out of "panic mode" and focused on progression. People are scared for no reason. Of course nobody wants another Sept. 11 2001, but we need to focus on fixing the country. If we just pull a Bush and say "mission accomplished", we could possibly convince the general public that we did. :dunno:
It worked for Bush. We went to war on a country that did nothing to us.
 
- see, your problem is that you are a buck-dancing alabama coon-jigger for the democrats.

niggas like you are killing the democratic party for black people, b/c you will NEVER question what they are doing b/c they are perfect in your eyes. you need to kill yourself but since you won't, read this:

that quote I pulled doesn't negate my point, it simply re-iterates it. the people were on board; but don't put jobs, two wars, and the economy on the back burner to talk about health care for half a damn year.

even democratic strategists agree that that was a dumbass move....but wait, they are racists too huh. :smh:
Okay bitchbmade faggot assed Elaphant dick sucker, (since you want to get personal)
YES, they are WRONG and that's NOT what happened. Nobody "stopped", that's another faux news LIE. Has he made some mis-steps? Yes. Starting the beginning steps for Universal Health care was not one of them. I don't give a fuck what you conservative yessir-my-big-business-master cOOns say. Its THE MOST PATRIOTIC thing the government has done in ages. Your bullshit argument is nothing but that lame ass "now's not a good time to talk about health care" bullshit the insurance industry sponsered republicans have been pushing since the conversation started about universal health care.
Here's the fact:
The health care insurance industry is going to DIE.
The fat cats in health insurance are just like the fat cats in the record business - trying to save their archaic hustle from extinction.
That shit's DONE, son. The nails are in the coffin. There's no going back. They may as well buck up and get new jobs if they can find them.
Again, you keep trying to defer the responsibility of job creation from private industry. They are at fault for about 80% of the unemployment. Before bitching at the government, bitch at every Panama-office holding multi-national corporation that ships jobs overseas while exploiting Americans.
 
- see, your problem is that you are a buck-dancing alabama coon-jigger for the democrats.

niggas like you are killing the democratic party for black people, b/c you will NEVER question what they are doing b/c they are perfect in your eyes. you need to kill yourself but since you won't, read this:

that quote I pulled doesn't negate my point, it simply re-iterates it. the people were on board; but don't put jobs, two wars, and the economy on the back burner to talk about health care for half a damn year.

even democratic strategists agree that that was a dumbass move....but wait, they are racists too huh. :smh:


You missed the whole point of the article...

it's not about politics, or what party won...


WE, AS AMERICANS, WON!!


No matter what happens to the balance of power, we will be better in the long term. That's the biggest issue, Americans want immediate solutions to long term issues.
 
Okay bitchbmade faggot assed Elaphant dick sucker,


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look @ you, so emotional over there that you can't even type straight...

1) for the third time to your dumbass: they spent too much time with health care as the #1 issue. has nothing to do with it being "the right time" or whatever

and truthfully this article exposes how aloof obama really is since you have his shit crumbs in your mustache:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013622-503544.html

2) nigga nobody asked your little stupid ass about what you think of the health care industry. you spent most of your reply on that stupid shit...the fuck is wrong with you? :confused:

again....you dudes stay running around here talking about republicans, and coons blah blah blah...it's brain dead jolly little slave niggas like this that are KILLING the democratic party :smh:...
 
:smh::smh:

look @ you, so emotional over there that you can't even type straight...

1) for the third time to your dumbass: they spent too much time with health care as the #1 issue. has nothing to do with it being "the right time" or whatever

and truthfully this article exposes how aloof obama really is since you have his shit crumbs in your mustache:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20013622-503544.html

2) nigga nobody asked your little stupid ass about what you think of the health care industry. you spent most of your reply on that stupid shit...the fuck is wrong with you? :confused:

again....you dudes stay running around here talking about republicans, and coons blah blah blah...it's brain dead jolly little slave niggas like this that are KILLING the democratic party :smh:...


You are wrong. Your whole position is based on a LIE. You Repube fags are reaching. In truth, they didn't spend enough time on the bill.
Its not some simple shit that can be worked out in a day. That whole stance is that of someone who wants a Morton's steak made at McDonalds speed. We (the U.S.) are going to spend much more time on it. Its going to change America. Its the U.S. finally trying to catch up to every other civilized nation in the world. We had a financial crisis that had to be handled FIRST and it got done while SIMULTANEOUSLY working on other shit. You one-track-minded mofos can't focus on more than on thing at a time. That's why republican policies are almost always ineffective. The only thing you fucks are good at is getting elected and doing corporations' biddings


Your argument works on simple-minded, single-focused dumbasses. Since you are one of them, its easy to see why you take the position you do.
We're done here, boy.
If you can't keep up, sit the fuck down. Things are happening simultaneously, not one at at time. :smh:
Fuckin' retards. :rolleyes:
 
You missed the whole point of the article...

it's not about politics, or what party won...


WE, AS AMERICANS, WON!!


No matter what happens to the balance of power, we will be better in the long term. That's the biggest issue, Americans want immediate solutions to long term issues.


He has no comprehension skills. Don't bother.
 
You are wrong. Your whole position is based on a LIE. You Repube fags are reaching. In truth, they didn't spend enough time on the bill.

:lol::lol::lol:

riiiiiiight....as it stands, repubs went from having 0 power for two whole years to having the most they've had in ages...but hey, you're right and the experts are wrong :rolleyes:

He has no comprehension skills. Don't bother.

- nigga, your emotional ass hasn't made one valid point this entire thread. go back to work and keep those mcribs warm tobey.
 
easily one of the dumbest articles I've ever read. I can't believe somebody got paid to write this shit...look at how it closed:

"It's funny, in a twisted way, to read all the post-election complaints that Democrats lost because they thought only of themselves. Even the chief operating officer of the party's leading think tank, the Center for American Progress, says Obama failed to convince Americans "that he knows their jobs are as important as his." That's too bad, because Obama, Pelosi, and their congressional allies proved just the opposite. They risked their jobs—and in many cases lost them—to pass the health care bill. The elections were a painful defeat, and you can argue that the bill was misguided. But Democrats didn't lose the most important battle of 2010. They won it."

this doesn't even make sense...but if it makes people "feel" better :dunno:

Makes perfect sense, no different than falling on a grenade to save those around you in a political sense.

As pointed out, it is much tougher to pass the initial legislation than to repeal what it contains, no need to look any further than the Patriot Act to understand that!


Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana, a retiring Democrat, says his party "overreached by focusing on health care rather than job creation"

Bullshit. The President RAN ON THIS PLATFORM. It wasn't overreaching. The government can only create so many jobs. Why does private industry not get the blame for exporting MOST of the jobs overseas?
The Dems are bought and paid for. They HAVE to be. There is NO REASON AT ALL that the Health Care Bill shouldn't be a single payer system - the only REAL universal health care solution. The insurance companies have to have paid them off. There's no reasonable explanation. Well, there is one:
Americans are stupid as fuck.

:confused::confused:

bruh, I think all americans were on board initially, or they were indifferent...

but then they put the economy, wars, job creation on the back burner for half a year just to focus on this!?

what thinking person doesn't see that as being strange or odd? cmon now...and that's even before we get to some of the bullshit earmarks that were "snuck" into the bill :smh:

To not be out front tooting your horn about everything apparently now is being treated as a detriment, the only reason why it seems that everything else was on the back burner is simply due to the fact that Republicans and Tea Party'ers raised such a fuss about "Obamacare".

In the end, how was the economy put on the back burner?

What part of Obama's Stimulus Package didn't you understand?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/30/AR2010093007382.html

What part of the US Government creating the MOST JOBS SINCE THE .com crash did you not understand?
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/06/03/census-hiring-to-spike-job-figures-in-may/

I fully understand that the majority of the 570,000 jobs added are temporary but they put money in people's pockets.

Strange how the Republican agenda wants less government involvement but @ the same time blames government for not doing more?!?

There are still THOUSANDS of jobs available @ the TSA!

And as pointed out by Mo Pizorn, if private companies send jobs overseas what does the President do about it???
 
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this is like a republican saying back in 06: "the elections were a defeat, and you can argue the war in iraq was misguided! but republicans won!!"

:confused: huh!? what!? :confused:

it's a silly and childish article man.

As I read it, they 'won', because the healthcare bill is more important and will have a longer lasting legacy than any midterm elections.
Essentially it's about the benefits to the American people and not the politicians per se...
This democracy thing is not about who wins what election as some would have you believe, it's about the lives the electorate manage to secure for themselves and their children....The Healthcare bill will have a long term effect on that....!!
 
they got smashed in the 2010 elections last i checked. guess nothing wrong with tryna look at the bright side of things lol
 
this doesn't even make sense...but if it makes people "feel" better :dunno:

u don't have the intellect to dissect what he meant. no harm done. nothing wrong with you being a dumb fuk on a porn board. the repubs held up other bills that would've leant themselves to job creation, economic issues, etc.

least now the dems in the senate can push that sheit forward before the end of the year
 
they got smashed in the 2010 elections last i checked. guess nothing wrong with tryna look at the bright side of things lol

:lol::lol::lol:

u don't have the intellect to dissect what he meant. no harm done. nothing wrong with you being a dumb fuk on a porn board. the repubs held up other bills that would've leant themselves to job creation, economic issues, etc.

least now the dems in the senate can push that sheit forward before the end of the year

:confused::confused:

how about I let this nationally published article from August remind you of how poor a job your mother did in raising you:

"Obama now blames poor job numbers on congressional inaction. Wait! His party runs Congress"

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/08/obama-mosque-jobs-economy.html
 
So Mr. Sirwoodz what do you propose they do to create jobs immediately? Dude this problem was more than 2 years in the making, and it's gonna take more than 2 years to fix. The economy has been on an uptrend for the past 8 months, that's all you can ask for.

As far as the health care issue goes, he did it the right way. If you weren't so blind you would remember that for half the year REPUBS were holding up the bill and using fear mongering tactics to get citizens rilled up to fight it. Haven't you ever heard of filibuster?

Obama always stated that one way to permanently fix the economy is to get a handle on rising health care costs.

Every thread that I enter you are the only person that can't seem to understand the general premise of a particular argument. Health care getting passed was more important than losing seats that will be gained again in 2 years.
 
GOP blocks Democrats’ jobs outsourcing bill

Senate blocks bill to punish firms that export jobs overseas

The Senate on Tuesday blocked tax legislation that would have punished U.S. firms that export jobs. But the political symbolism of trying to save American jobs, not passing a bill, was the Democrats' closing argument on the economy in the waning weeks of the congressional elections.

Republicans complained that the vote used a serious subject — economic recovery — to score points with voters five weeks before the balloting in which all 435 House seats, 37 Senate seats and the Democratic majority are on the line. The bill in question, Republicans said, would make U.S. companies less competitive.

"The liberal Senate leadership has brought forward a politically motivated bill that will never become law," said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah.

But majority Democrats, now without their original plan to close the campaign with a middle class tax cut, sought to convince voters that the bill showed off their commitment to supporting the nation's economic recovery.

"This is part of the continuing focus on jobs," Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., told reporters.

The bill failed, 53-45, to attract the 60 votes required to advance. Four Democrats and one Independent joined Republicans to block its progress.

But debating it and forcing senators on the record was the Democrats' point.

"We're just a few weeks away from an election," said Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill. "I wish this election would be a simple referendum on the debate we're having on the floor of the Senate right now."

The bill at issue in the Senate would exempt companies that import jobs from paying the 6.2 percent Social Security payroll tax for new U.S. employees who replace overseas workers who had been doing similar work.

The two-year exemption would be available for workers hired over the next three years. The tax cut — estimated to cost about $1 billion — would be partially offset by tax increases on companies that move jobs overseas.

The bill would prohibit firms from taking deductions for business expenses associated with expanding operations in other countries. It would increase taxes on U.S. companies that close domestic operations and expand foreign ones to import products to the U.S.

Republicans argued the tax cuts would be difficult to administer and the tax increases would hurt international corporations that employ U.S. workers.

"Let's have votes on real job creation incentives and let's get out of this gamesmanship," said Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, the top Republican on the tax-writing Senate Finance Committee.

The tax increases total $369 million over the next decade, according to a preliminary estimate by the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation. Combined with the tax cut, the bill would add an estimated $721 million to the budget deficit over the next decade.

The Democrats voting to block the bill were Sens. Max Baucus of Montana, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Jon Tester of Montana and Mark Warner of Virginia. Also voting no was Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.

Source: AP News







http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/gop-blocks-democrats-jobs-outsourcing-bill/
 
- see, your problem is that you are a buck-dancing alabama coon-jigger for the democrats.

niggas like you are killing the democratic party for black people, b/c you will NEVER question what they are doing b/c they are perfect in your eyes. you need to kill yourself but since you won't, read this:

that quote I pulled doesn't negate my point, it simply re-iterates it. the people were on board; but don't put jobs, two wars, and the economy on the back burner to talk about health care for half a damn year.

even democratic strategists agree that that was a dumbass move....but wait, they are racists too huh. :smh:


You say he put it on the back burner, but what proof do you have of this? Besides, a president is suppose to be able to do more than one thing at at time. This president has been doing just that. In fact, the complaint was that he's doing too much, and the republicans wanted to stop him (plus Pelosi). It was the do nothing republicans that put everything on the back burner to stop Obama's chances of reelection.
 
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