( POLL) HARRIS LOST! WHAT WAS THE REASON?
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2016 2.0 Bernie knows what happened and if people are honest with themselves they know why it was a landslide.
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Not sure how old you are but food for thought— LGBTQ people could easily outnumber black people by the end of the century.
FOH you delusional faggot loving moron.
I really don't understand your intense hatred of gays... I'm just trying to reason with you man to man. We have different perspectives with regard to gay people but we're both straight black men and it's a fact that the LGBT population is on pace to outnumber the black population by the end of the century. That's just a fact, nothing moronic about it.
You make a good point. But, do they vote as a measurable demographic as LGBTQ? Meaning, is there a “gay vote”? Or do they mostly align with existing groups based on their ethnicity, income/class, and other usual factors?
I remember when 3% of the population was gay. Now that number is up to 7.1 with the whole LGBTQ conglomerate of faggots. I'm so sick and tired of you faggots. Seems like damn near every show has to have some faggotry in it for the last decade or so. Meanwhile that slackness is not going on in my immediate circle. I'm so sick and tired of the faggotry I've been watching the Magnolia channel & MeTV to not see you weirdos.
The phrase "chickens come home to roost" means that the consequences of one's actions, especially negative ones, eventually return to affect them. It suggests that if someone has done something harmful, dishonest, or unwise, they will likely experience repercussions or "pay the price" for it later. This expression is often used to convey the idea of "getting what you deserve" or experiencing the outcomes of past actions, whether positive or negative.
So based on that definition you did the math and determined Harris deserved to lose more than Trump?
thats more of a media thing thatn a governmant thing ( not saying that dems dont kow tow to gays ) but its like high school - all the gays and shit do drama and art so youre gong to see them in drama and art and since they were always in there in massive numbers and now its not really cool to try to make hem feel bad about being gay - they are more willing to put their shit in the stuff they work on ...its a whole feedback loop .I remember when 3% of the population was gay. Now that number is up to 7.1 with the whole LGBTQ conglomerate of faggots. I'm so sick and tired of you faggots. Seems like damn near every show has to have some faggotry in it for the last decade or so. Meanwhile that slackness is not going on in my immediate circle. I'm so sick and tired of the faggotry I've been watching the Magnolia channel & MeTV to not see you weirdos.
that said - the reason Dems lost this election isnt because of fags or trans or because they didnt pick Bernie ( who didnt want to run even when he was offered to run )
its for one reason and one reason ONLY - people are lazy
and a lot of Dem people thought because is was all over their feed and media about all the big rallies - that if they didnt vote then someone else would and it would be her than wins....like on TV
and it didnt because the other Dem person relied on some other Dem person to vote and that Dem person likewise relied on that other Dem was voting ...
and of course - a LOT of republicans are motivated to vote simply because the candidate is republican - if it means fucking up and running afoul or just being a pain in the ass - if a Dem doesnt like it they LOVE it and so they vote for Trump since its sticking it to the Libs....
and the last part is the lectorate in this country is fucking dumb and doesnt know how elections are decided-
there could very well be 30 million votes where a majority are Dem - but it depends on wher those votes are - and if they are in a state or location that she already won .....
the issue is - in places and states where she didnt win - Dems didnt show up - young people , women ( many who lied or just didnt give a fuck especially white women ) and all the other issues around economics - people just sat at home and said whaever happens.... happens.
and Donald trump Happened.
just like the last time.
Multiple black men on here are telling you the reason we didn’t vote for Harris. Instead of accepting it and attaching an insulting reason for people voting different than you, why not just accept the reasons we are telling you. We aren’t lazy, coons, or ignorant. Many of us strongly disagree with stuff like this:
man first you arent even black you re a white troll - so the shit youre saying is just horseshit - and i didnt say ANYTHING about black people or black men in my post
so you kind of reveal who you are and what your agenda is in just one post
That's what I think y'all are unless you can convince me why electing a white nationalist was a better alternative than a black woman.
They’re in denial man! What was the number again? 15 million more Dem votes that Biden received in 2020 that Kamala didn’t?! But they’re in such denial and are living in such an information vacuum that they can’t comprehend her loss even when we’re telling them what happened! They’ve “ignored” and “blocked” themselves into a delusional Democratic matrix.
I see Maga making posts like these like they think they are making fun or laughing at people who voted for Kamala.
You sure showed us, Trump won and us Democrat sheep lost ha ha ha
You sure gave it to us
I voted for Kamala Harris, though reluctantly, because I thought it was the better choice given the options. However, I don’t fault those who made a different decision. My issues with Kamala run deep. As a prosecutor, she positioned herself as a 'top cop' and made decisions that harmed Black communities, particularly Black men. She oversaw cases where evidence that could have exonerated hundreds of wrongly incarcerated Black men was suppressed, and she did nothing. Her political career has been more about breaking barriers for optics rather than meaningful change—first Indian woman, then Black woman, then Asian. It’s hard to see a true commitment to any particular community or ethnic group in her record.
Similarly, her alignment with Biden brings more concerns. His record, too, has been detrimental to Black America, especially when we look at his role in the 1994 Crime Bill. Together, they represent a brand of politics that often exploits Black votes without delivering real solutions. I’m just not convinced that either of them genuinely serves the interests of Black Americans. So yes, I voted for her, but I won’t pretend she's the answer to our community’s needs, nor do I blame those who looked at her record and opted to go another way
I see Maga making posts like these like they think they are making fun or laughing at people who voted for Kamala.
You sure showed us, Trump won and us Democrat sheep lost ha ha ha
You sure gave it to us
Assuming you both are Black men, you are way too emotional about this election. Neither candidate has identified himself/herself as a candidate that will prioritize issues that directly address us. If you are LBGTQ, then I could understand the disappoint because Harris has communicated support for you.
Kamala Harris stances that directly benefits LGBTQ:
-Title 9 update for school "right to use bathrooms according to gender identity".
-Hiring a "book ban czar" to make sure LGBTQ friendly books are not banned at any public schools.
-increasing mental health funding specifically for LGBTQ students
Kamala Harris stance that directly benefits Jews:
- Continuing to support "Isreals right to defend themselves"
Kamala Harris stance that directly benefits Black folks:
The bottom line is that some brothers are most concerned with Black folks. We want tangibles for our vote. I've seen hundreds of Billions spent on Ukraine support, Isreali support, and Covid funds. When it came to reparations, we were told that "studies" needed to be conducted. The studies have been completed. Unlike yall, I believe we need to demand what we are due. A candidate needs to directly support some issues that will directly benefit us like they do for other groups. Wearing Chuck Taylors, Timberlands, and being a Black woman is not good enough for me. If you don't feel the same, I'm ok with agreeing to disagree. But get out of our way. Yall let these CACs encourage you to call Ice Cube and Jim Brown coons for simply meeting Trump and asking him directly what he will do for us. Then you ignored the past 4 years where Biden declared LBGTQ his "priority" and did nothing that was engineered to primarily benefit us. Voting for the "least evil" hasn't given us much throughout the 80's, 90's,2000s,2010's or the 2020's. Its time to change.
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You made your point about Kamala now lets see what you have about Trump and why you are gloating that she loss.
Welp….we called it. BGOL is undefeated.
Alright man I no longer think you are a coon. No one said Kamala was perfect but she was better than the alternative.
I did not vote for Trump. The majority of Black folks didn't either. The Tread Topic is exploring reasons why Harris lost. Unfortunately, the discussion devolved to finger pointing and attacks on the brothers that didn't vote for Harris. I provided some reasons why Harris did not garner as much support as she would have liked from Black men. As far as her losing, she lost because she severely overestimated the support she would get from white men and women. These demographics are what costed her the election. I believe they did not vote for her because of the following reasons:
- She is a Black woman.
-She was overestimated the support she would get from white folks. Especially white women.
- She held very unpopular stances.
- She entered the race late and unexpectedly.
- She did not hold firm positions.
- The democratic party did not push Biden to step down so that she could run as an incumbent.
- She supported Isreal's genocidal attacks that have been denounced by much of the world.
-It is widely viewed that Biden's Presidency was a disappointing and she was a part of it.
Keep in mind that Kamala Harris would have made history being the first Female President. Many of the influential Democratic leaders are women. With Biden's mental state questioned, why didn't the Democratic party ask Biden to step down as President? Why don't they do it now before his term is up? Trump could not have stopped this historic achievement. The Democratic party is.
When it comes to Black folks, she isn't a clear better alternative. Arguments could be made either way. IMO the economy will be better under Trump. Immigration will be policed better which IMO works to our benefit. As the father of a Black son in California, the gay agenda is a legitimate threat. Our schools expose our kids to LGBTQ stuff starting at Kindergarten. If our children identify as LGBTQ or Trans, our schools are mandated not to tell the parents or talk about it with us. The video I posted above is crazy to me because plenty of high achieving or famous black children would love to meet with Michelle Obama. Why did Wade's son receive that benefit simply because he changed his gender? What message does this send to our Black boys? Yes Trump has BS quotes and IMO was not a good President, so I didn't vote for him. Where we seem to disagree is that voting for the "least evil" has not been and is not beneficial for us as black folks.
He might want to go into hiding for a while...
George Clooney taking step back from politics after backlash
Clooney, 63, is 'disheartened' by the backlash, with insiders claiming he did not immediately endorse Harris because he felt the Democrats should have deliberated for longer.www.dailymail.co.uk
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Appreciate the thoughtful replies, especially those backed up with sources.
The lazy replies are telling. Disagreement on the best course of action for our political group doesn't mean those in the minority are agents, spies, whites, Russians, etc.
There were times in our history when segments wanted us to go to Africa (Garvey), learn trades (Booker), or let a talented tenth lead us (Du Bois). Some wanted to work within the system and focus on economics rather than race (King), some wanted to maintain our own economy and identity (Malcolm).
We should be able to present different ideas to move us forward without every other response questioning your "Blackness" or other ad hominem attacks.
The lazy replies are telling. Disagreement on the best course of action for our political group doesn't mean those in the minority are agents, spies, whites, Russians, etc.
There were times in our history when segments wanted us to go to Africa (Garvey), learn trades (Booker), or let a talented tenth lead us (Du Bois). Some wanted to work within the system and focus on economics rather than race (King), some wanted to maintain our own economy and identity (Malcolm).
We should be able to present different ideas to move us forward without every other response questioning your "Blackness" or other ad hominem attacks.
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I respect your position. I wish others on this board were just as honest.