Sandman Netflix Discussion Thread

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Warner Bros. has a lot of catching up to do when it comes to superhero movies. Marvel has left them in the dust, but it doesn't mean that the WB is going to lay down and die. We know they have big plans brewing. Two of their upcoming films will most definitely include Batman v Super: Dawn of Justice and Justice League, both of which Zack Snyder is directing.

Thanks to Nikki Finke, we now have some additional information on what is coming our way. She says that she has intel on what "is coming up at this July’s Comic-Con from the studio." Does that mean the studio plans on officially announcing the titles at the geek convention? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. In the mean time, here's the list of DC films that the studio are rumored to be in development:

May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

I for one am particularly excited for the Flash and Green Lantern team-up movie. That could be cool. The report goes on to say that there had also been talk of a Metal Men and Suicide Squad movie for 2016, but the project was cut from the schedule. But that doesn't mean it won't happen eventually.


The report also gives the reason why Batman v Superman was delayed, and that reason is that the film will act as a launching pad for Justice League, which is something a lot of fans speculated anyway. The site's source then says that the superheroes in their cinematic universe will make cameos in each other's films. Here's the quote explaining that:

"Like Marvel’s The Avengers, there will be cameos of superheroes for future installments. The cameos will include the already known Cyborg and Flash. Green Lantern [not played by Ryan Reynolds, thank god] may be introduced. And Aquaman will be seen in the Justice League movie. Problem is, Warner Bros Pictures was still negotiating with the actors for those cameos and future roles, meaning major contracts for multiple JL/character films to follow. The studio didn’t want to move forward until they had more of this secure so they held off starting production for a few months. Seemingly simple reason, but the implications are pretty darn huge."

There are lots of good things happening here and DC fans should be really excited about this. Hopefully they are able to bring us great films that will entice us to come back and see more.


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May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

I like this...

they BETTER snatch up The Rock for Black Adam immediately...

I always thought that property could if done PROPERLY could surpass Superman because of the little boy turning into a superhero motif...classic.

Unfortunately all of the best choices for Captain Marvel are already too old...

They should have done the Green Arrow in prison movie though...because it would have been an excellent way to showcase lesser known characters...and the TV Green Arrow is established does a great job and has a solid built in fanbase....or they need to do a TV movie that goes DIRECTLY into the films (and then sell an unedited version on DVD and stream)
 

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May 2016 – Batman v Superman
July 2016 – Shazam
Xmas 2016 – Sandman
May 2017 – Justice League
July 2017 – Wonder Woman
Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up
May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

guess theyll be waiting to see if the Flash tv show is a hit..so they can team Grant Gustin with Ryan Reynolds :lol:
 

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marvel has way better characters. always has. dc skated too long with batman and superman. then they tried to catch up with similar characters and snappy dialog. failed on both counts. now they're trying to copy marvel's formula of cross promoting? yeah, right.
 

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I call bullshit on this. No way they follow this tight of a schedule. Or make it without delays.

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I call bullshit on this. No way they follow this tight of a schedule. Or make it without delays.

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Yeah, that schedule is very ambitious, which is why I also think it's a fake.
 

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marvel has way better characters. always has. dc skated too long with batman and superman. then they tried to catch up with similar characters and snappy dialog. failed on both counts. now they're trying to copy marvel's formula of cross promoting? yeah, right.

I call bullshit on this. No way they follow this tight of a schedule. Or make it without delays.

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Cosign.
 

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First of all, DC has problems coordinating their comic book events.

This is ambitious but it's not going to happen.

Creative is gonna fuck with the writers, the producers, the characters, everything. Watch & see. The shit that's going on with Ant-Man will be NOTHING compared to what happens before the first movie comes out.

And this is coming from a loyal DC fan.
 

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I don't give a shit about any of that stuff other than Sandman. I hope they have Neil Gaiman writing the script. Sandman is a tough one to translate. They've been trying for years.

Just read that HBO lost American Gods written by Gaiman. They couldn't get the script right.
 

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And why the hell they making a Sandman movie? If there any comic book that should be made for HBO (other than Preacher), this is it!

It will not translate well to the movies. It is way too estoric & nuanced for the 2 hour movie treatment.
 

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Who's is Sandman?
From DC's Vertigo line-up.
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And why the hell they making a Sandman movie? If there any comic book that should be made for HBO (other than Preacher), this is it!

It will not translate well to the movies. It is way too estoric & nuanced for the 2 hour movie treatment.

Preacher is going to be a AMC series(courtesy of Seth Rogen)
 

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I predict NONE OF THIS WILL HAPPEN outside of the Batman/Superman film. Warner brothers are idiots and don't trust any of the DC properties outside of the big 2.
 

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That's Sand, not Sandman. He has a connection to Wesley Dodds, the 1st Sandman.

But I'm quite sure that they are talking about the Endless Sandman, not Wesley Dodds or Hector Hall.

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^This guy

The good thing is Gaiman won't let them fuck up Sandman...
 

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Joseph Gordon-Levitt just quit Sandman

Just a day after New Line Cinema announced that it was hiring Final Destination 5and The Thing (2011) screenwriter Eric Heisserer to pen the script for its adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s Sandman, long-attached star and producer Joseph Gordon-Levitt has announced that he’s dropping out of the project.

Gordon-Levitt made the announcement via Facebook, in a longer post calling out his differences with New Line, which took over the project from Warner Bros. last year.

“A few months ago, I came to realize that the folks at New Line and I just don’t see eye to eye on what makes Sandman special, and what a film adaptation could/should be. So unfortunately, I decided to remove myself from the project. I wish nothing but the best for the team moving forward.”


The actor—who’s been attached to the project since 2013, and has been an aggressive advocate for hewing close to the spirit of Neil Gaiman’s original graphic novels—didn’t get into specifics about what his creative differences with the studio were, but he did take a moment to namecheck the contributions and talents of his and co-producer David S. Goyer’s original choice of screenwriter, Jack Thorne. He reserved his highest praise, though, for Gaiman himself:

“I’ve had a blast with and learned a ton from David and Jack. Niija Kuykendall, Greg Silverman, and everyone at Warner Brothers have been fantastic, as have Geoff Johns and everyone at DC. And it’s been a particular privilege as well as a rocking good time getting to know Mr. Gaiman, whose generous insights and masterful work have certainly convinced me that the Lord of Dreams and the Prince of Stories are one and the same Endless pattern.”

It’s not clear what this means for Sandman; Gordon-Levitt’s passion for the project was one of the major forces propelling it into existence. Without him, it remains to be seen whether Goyer or Gaiman will stay heavily involved with the movie, or what it was that New Line found special about the material that an obsessive fan like Gordon-Levitt didn’t.


http://www.avclub.com/article/joseph-gordon-levitt-just-quit-sandman-233304

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/joseph-gordon-levitt-sandman-drops-out-1201723703/
 

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Neil Gaiman Turns On His Magic Beam, Brings You a Potential Netflix Sandman Show
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At your fervent behest, author Neil Gaiman has turned on his magic beam (that guy’s gotta have one at this point, right? If anyone does!) and sent you a dream: a television adaptation of his iconic DC Comics seriesThe Sandman. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Netflix has reportedly made a “massive financial commitment” to bring Gaiman’s cult favorite Vertigo comic, which follows the story of Dream, one of a group of immortal entities known as the Endless, to the streaming platform as a live-action television show.

Wonder Woman writer Allan Heinberg is reportedly onboard to write and act as showrunner on the series. THR says “a formal deal has not yet closed,” but between Fox’s Lucifer, Starz’s American Gods and Amazon’s Good Omens, it would be a nightmare to let any beloved Neil Gaiman property slip through their fingers at this late hour.
 

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This should have been the plan for "SANDMAN" years ago when it was first optioned as a film instead of a series.
With Anthologies being the TV rage now, "SANDMAN" is perfect for it.
I hope a lot of those classic stories are adapted too.
 

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Netflix officially orders Sandman TV series from Neil Gaiman

By Christian Holub
July 01, 2019 at 07:06 PM EDT
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Netflix is ready to show you fear in a handful of dust. On Monday the streaming platform announced that it has officially given a series order to The Sandman,an adaptation of the iconic 1990s comic series by Neil Gaiman and a host of the genre’s best artists.

This is not the first time a Sandman adaptation has been floated, of course. Long-time fans surely remember back in 2013 when Joseph Gordon-Levitt was attached to star in a film version from New Line. That project fizzled out a few years later, and it felt like The Sandman might never make it to the screen. But this Netflix version already boasts a few key differences from past attempts. First of all, it’s a TV series (10 episodes total) rather than a movie, which might be a better fit for the comic’s characteristically disparate storytelling. Although Morpheus, the king of dreams, is the protagonists of The Sandman, there are dozens of other colorful characters who share the spotlight; some of the best issues of the comic series barely feature Morpheus at all.

Then there’s the direct involvement of Gaiman himself. Fresh off his experience as showrunner of Amazon Prime’s Good Omens (an adaptation of his novel with Terry Pratchett), Gaiman will be both a writer and executive producer on Netflix’s The Sandman. He will share those titles with The Dark Knight screenwriter David S. Goyer, who was also attached to the Gordon-Levitt film. Wonder Womanscreenwriter Allan Heinberg will be the official showrunner. Luckily for fans, Heinberg is intimately familiar both with comics (he co-created Marvel’s Young Avengers with artist Jim Cheung in 2005) and with TV (he was a writer on Grey’s Anatomy, The O.C., Gilmore Girls, and more).

Gaiman, Goyer, and Heinberg will co-write the first episode of the series.

“We’re thrilled to partner with the brilliant team that is Neil Gaiman, David S. Goyer and Allan Heinberg to finally bring Neil’s iconic comic book series, The Sandman, to life onscreen,” said Channing Dungey, VP of original programming at Netflix, said in a statement. “From its rich characters and storylines to its intricately built-out worlds, we’re excited to create an epic original series that dives deep into this multi-layered universe beloved by fans around the world.”

Get ready to dream a little dream, Netflix viewers. Soon you’ll be able to better understand the references to The Sandman in other Netflix shows like Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.
 

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Neil Gaiman, Michael Sheen, G. Willow Wilson discuss the past and future of The Sandman at DC FanDome

By Christian Holub
August 22, 2020 at 04:46 PM EDT


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Thirty-one years after the first issue of The Sandman hit stores, the dark fantasy series created by Neil Gaiman, Sam Kieth, and Mike Dringenberg almost feels more popular than ever. In addition to ongoing Sandman Universe sequel comics, Gaiman recently narrated an audiobook adaptation from Audible. Plus, there's a Netflix TV adaptation still in development. All of these were touched on at The Sandman virtual panel at DC FanDome on Saturday, hosted by Yvette Nicole Brown and featuring appearances from Gaiman, The Dreaming: Waking Hours author G. Willow Wilson, audiobook director Dirk Maggs, and actor Michael Sheen.
Gaiman kicked things off by discussing his pleasant surprise "that a 30-year-old comic still has relevance." It certainly wasn't common back in the late '80s and early '90s for a non-superhero comic to accumulate the kind of passionate audience that The Sandman did. Most comics barely even made it a year, while The Sandman ended up running for 75 issues over seven years.

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"Issue 8 is usually when they would call you and tell you they were canceling you," Gaiman recalled. "You had a year total, so you had four more issues to wrap it up. My whole plan was for an eight-issue storyline and then four short stories, and then we'd get canceled. Except, we weren't canceled!"
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Not only did The Sandman survive past issue #8, but the eighth issue is particularly beloved for introducing the character of Death, the older sister of series protagonist Morpheus, a.k.a. Dream. Although The Sandman introduced a host of fascinating characters over the course of its run, Death is one of its most iconic twists on a classic mythic archetype. This incarnation of Death was not a scythe-wielding Grim Reaper but rather a cute goth girl with a spunky attitude and a pretty ankh symbol. Death made an immediate impact on pop culture, especially for a young G. Willow Wilson.
"I first read The Sandman in the late '90s as a teenage goth," Wilson said. "For me, what's interesting looking back now is that by the time I read that series, it was already part of the culture. And so I was already wearing the Death outfit without knowing what it was. So to pick up the series and be like, 'Oh, this is where this comes from,' was really interesting for me. It had a huge impact on my sense of how you tell stories in the graphic medium, of the scope of the kinds of stories you can tell, and the way that you can put a twist on legacy characters to make them relevant and fresh again for a new audience. All of those tools that I was sort of unconsciously picking up, reading that series at that age, I think have been tremendously to me in my own creative life."

One Death-focused issue of The Sandman finds her helping a character named Element Girl process the end of her life. The series' focus on marginalized characters like that is one of the things that has helped it endure for so many decades.
"What was really astonishing to me about The Sandman, especially the first time that I read it through as a teenager, was that unexpected people were at the center of the story," Wilson said. "We're kind of taught to look to the most obvious figures to be heroes: The politicians, the famous people, all of this. Whereas in Sandman, the guy sitting next to you on the bus could be Lucifer or the King of Dreams. And as such, you get stories about characters who were kind of pushed to the margins, especially at the time, in other types of stories. Here they were at the center and that makes you look twice at the world around you."
Wilson continued, "It makes you sort of question who is telling the story, and what point of views are we missing, and who is unmourned? I mean, that also really struck me — this came out in the middle of the AIDS epidemic when a lot of people were trying to push these deaths and this terrible thing that was happening under the rug. And Sandman said, 'No, pay attention. This is important. These people are important.' I think that's part of the reason that it still feels so relevant because it kind of reminds you, there are still stories we haven't heard, and there are still things we're afraid to talk about, and it's the people around you who could be the true spinners of tales."

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In addition to Death, another of The Sandman's signature takes on a mythic figure is its depiction of the devil Lucifer. Rather than sporting horns or red skin, this Lucifer looked a lot like David Bowie, which was one of the reasons Sheen was so eager to voice the character in the recent Audible adaptation.
"The Sandman both reinforced what I was already interested and introduced me to all kinds of stuff. It just blew my mind," Sheen shared. "Certain things really stayed with me. One of those things was the character Lucifer, because when you first meet him early on in the story with that kind of young Bowie look, that image really stayed with me. I love the idea of someone like that who looks very angelic. I mean, he is an angel, a fallen angel, and that young Bowie with the curly blond hair is very angelic and sort of chirpy. It takes you by surprise. You're expecting Lucifer to be a certain way, but Neil is so brilliant at surprising the audience and pulling the rug out from under their feet."
As the panel wrapped up, Brown begged Gaiman for anything he could tell fans about the Netflix adaptation. He teased that the show will be set in the modern day rather than the late '80s/early '90s of the original comic.
"Due to COVID, with every other piece of television being made around the world right now, somebody pushed a giant pause button and we've taken advantage of our pause button just to try and get the scripts as close to perfect as we possibly could, which has been really fun," Gaiman said. "Right now, as the universal pause button is starting to come off, we're starting to cast again. I'm getting these inspiring and wonderful emails with production designs of places that I've only ever seen in the comics before, now being rendered in 3D, and I'm being asked to comment on it. That's amazing."
Gaiman continued, "There's not a lot that I can say, but something that I will say is part of the joy of doing the audio adaptation was going, 'This is going to be the nearest thing we can do to an audiobook over those first three graphic novels, and hopefully all of the graphic novels.' We're going to start it in 1988, and it's going to end in 1991 or 1992. The Sandman is a very compressed story; even though it takes place all through time and space, that's where that story takes place. So now what we're doing with Netflix is saying, 'Okay, the time this story starts is not 1988, it's now.' And how does that change the story? What does that give us? What does that mean? What's that gonna do to the story? That is very liberating."
Stay tuned for more coverage of DC FanDome at EW.com this weekend.
 

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Netflix unveils its Sandman adaptation cast: Tom Sturridge, Gwendoline Christie, and more

We now know who will play Dream, Lucifer, and other major characters in the long-awaited live-action comic book adaptation.
By Christian Holub
January 28, 2021 at 10:00 AM EST




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Are you ready to enter the Dreaming? Netflix is, and on Thursday morning the streaming service finally unveiled the cast of its upcoming live-action adaptation of beloved comic The Sandman.

Originally created by Neil Gaiman, Sam Kieth, and Mike Dringenberg, The Sandman is about Dream, the anthropomorphic embodiment of storytelling, and what he decides to do with his immortal life after escaping a decades-long captivity at the hands of human sorcerers and returning to his realm in The Dreaming. Netflix has announced that Tony-nominated actor Tom Sturridge (Orphans, Sea Wall/A Life) will play Dream (also called Morpheus in the comics) in the new series.

The Sandman is far from a solo story, though; a major reason the comic is so beloved is its colorful cast of supporting characters, and some of those roles have been cast as well. Gwendoline Christie (Game of Thrones) will play Lucifer, the ruler of Hell whom Dream must visit shortly after his escape, while Vivienne Acheampong (The Witches) will play Lucienne, chief librarian of The Dreaming and Dream's most trusted lieutenant. Interestingly, these casting choices represent gender flips from the comic, where both characters are depicted as male.

Christie isn't even the only Game of Thrones veteran on board for The Sandman. Charles Dance will play Roderick Burgess, human magician and leader of the cult that captures Dream. Rounding out the initial cast, Boyd Holbrook (Logan) will play the Corinthian, a living nightmare whose eyes are made of teeth, while Sanjeev Bhaskar and Asim Chaudhry will play Cain and Abel. Millennia after becoming the first murderer and the first victim, Cain and Abel now live as storytellers in neighboring houses in The Dreaming, though their sibling rivalry still manifests in the form of deadly violence (if you've seen Netflix's The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, then you get their dynamic).

At least one big name is missing from this list: Death, Dream's sister and goth girl icon for the ages. It's hard to imagine any version of The Sandman that doesn't include her, so it's probably safe to assume these will not be the last castings announced before the show premieres. But now fans have some faces to match to names ahead of the long-awaited debut of a comic adaptation that, not unlike Dream returning to power after decades in captivity, is finally coming into the light after years in development hell.
 

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Man I love this dude as an Actor but to me there is only One John Constantine and that's Matt Ryan

Taron Egerton Reportedly Cast As John Constantine In Netflix’s The Sandman Series (EXCLUSIVE)

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It’s been revealed to us by sources reportedly close to Netflix that Taron Egerton has been cast in The Sandman as John Constantine. This comes after it was reported by Deadline that Egerton was cast in the upcoming Netflix project.

Not much is known about The Sandman series which is coming to Netflix. Filming supposedly started on October 15th, 2020, and it’s been limited to the United Kingdom due to the COVID-19 restrictions. However, it sounds like the production might have been paused yet again.


We also know that Dream (aka Morpheus, aka The Sandman) will be played by Tom Sturridge. Apart from Tom, there’s been no news on who will star in the series – until now that is.

We’ve been told by a source who claims to be close to Netflix and the project in question that Taron Egerton will be playing John Constantine in the series.

This sounds very interesting to me, and I actually think that Egerton would make an excellent John Constantine. Interestingly enough, both Egerton and Constantine are from Merseyside in the United Kingdom. It would be the first time the DC Comics character’s been portrayed by someone who’s actually from the proper place, so we should be getting a pretty much comic book-accurate version of John Constantine.



I mean I get it.... Cause Matt is under contract with a different studio. But Man.....
 

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Man I love this dude as an Actor but to me there is only One John Constantine and that's Matt Ryan

Taron Egerton Reportedly Cast As John Constantine In Netflix’s The Sandman Series (EXCLUSIVE)

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It’s been revealed to us by sources reportedly close to Netflix that Taron Egerton has been cast in The Sandman as John Constantine. This comes after it was reported by Deadline that Egerton was cast in the upcoming Netflix project.

Not much is known about The Sandman series which is coming to Netflix. Filming supposedly started on October 15th, 2020, and it’s been limited to the United Kingdom due to the COVID-19 restrictions. However, it sounds like the production might have been paused yet again.


We also know that Dream (aka Morpheus, aka The Sandman) will be played by Tom Sturridge. Apart from Tom, there’s been no news on who will star in the series – until now that is.

We’ve been told by a source who claims to be close to Netflix and the project in question that Taron Egerton will be playing John Constantine in the series.

This sounds very interesting to me, and I actually think that Egerton would make an excellent John Constantine. Interestingly enough, both Egerton and Constantine are from Merseyside in the United Kingdom. It would be the first time the DC Comics character’s been portrayed by someone who’s actually from the proper place, so we should be getting a pretty much comic book-accurate version of John Constantine.



I mean I get it.... Cause Matt is under contract with a different studio. But Man.....

AGREED.

yeah I do NOT know how I feel about this one.

but I think if he PULLS THIS ONE OFF?



He could do it.
 
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