So these are the dems that are going to take Trump down?
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Lets be real I'm positive democrats would vote unanimously to impeach Trump, Pelosi included. But it means nothing with out the 66% of the republicans also voting to impeach.
Democrats need to tie the republicans directly to all that ills this country. Especially after Trump's stance on infrastructure.
Democrats need to tie the republicans directly to all that ills this country. Especially after Trump's stance on infrastructure.
People absolutely don't understand the impeachment process.
Nixon was impeached with very little support from the GOP. He started at 60%+ approval rating. In 15 months, his approval right dropped to 24% and he resigned because of all the public pressure after all the crimes he committed become public through impeachment hearings. A vote never came up on the Senate. You don't need a senate conviction for an impeachment to be effective.
Trump's goal is to tie up Congress in courts so that he's clean going into 2020. At that point, impeachment won't mean anything neither will more congressional investigation. Barr and Trump will have won.
Damn man... when this shit happen?
earlier today in New York
Yeah. She's dope.
Lmao
Your right they don't understand and many appear to be clueless. If Democrats were to take an impeachment vote it would be DOA. McConnell wouldn't even bring it to the floor. People seem to keep giving him a pass when he's the main culprit behind whats ailing this country.
Dems do have new blood.
What they need is new ideas/messages.
Cacs are more simple minded then ever. You tell them you will lower taxes and you will get rid of the Mexicans, and you won their vote.
Dems should move to be the party of families/small businesses imho.
What they need is new ideas/messages.
Cacs are more simple minded then ever. You tell them you will lower taxes and you will get rid of the Mexicans, and you won their vote.
Dems should move to be the party of families/small businesses imho.
They really stupid wealthy people will bring in whomever the hell they want whenever they want....
So they need to figure out who their real enemy is first..
Dumb birds can't follow a simple money trail
Hmm... This shit is all show for the camera and playing on the peoples emotions.. All of these politicians are in cahoots, government is nothing but one big rotten body with 2 fucked up heads attached to it!! Thats how you end up with a two headed cockroach dems and reps!! There only function is to keep the american people in a deep sleep and never let them wake up and keep the people deeply divided!! Because the illusion/dream is that fragile!! But, No one wants to be honest with themselves, so were in this dream state!! Oh well!! One mind, brut force, worldwide and full of money!!!
Allen Ginsberg's poem hadda play it on the jukebox
Hadda be flashin' like the daily double
Hadda be playin' on TV
Hadda be loud-mouthed on the comedy hour
Hadda be announced over loud speakers
The CIA and the Mafia are in cahoots
It hadda be said in old ladies' language
It hadda be said in American headlines
Kennedy stretched and smiled
And got double-crossed by lowlife goons and agents
Rich bankers with criminal connections
Dope-pushers in CIA working with
Dope-pushers from Cuba working with
Big time syndicate Tampa, Florida
It hadda be said with a big mouth
It hadda be moaned over factory foghorns
It hadda be chattered on car radio news broadcasts
It hadda be screamed in the kitchen
It hadda be yelled in the basement where uncles were fighting
It hadda be howled on the streets by newsboys to bus conductors
Hadda be foghorned into New York harbor
Hadda echo under hard hats
Hadda turn up the volume in the university ballrooms
Hadda be written in library books, footnoted
Hadda be in the headlines of the Times and Le Monde
It hadda be barked over TV
Hadda be heard in side alleys through ballroom doors
It hadda be played on wire services
Hadda be bells ringing
Comedians stopped dead in the middle of a joke in Las Vegas
Hadda be FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover
And Frank Costello syndicate mouthpiece
Meeting in Central Park, New York together weekends
Reported Time magazine
Hadda be the Mafia and the CIA together starting a war on Cuba
Bay of Pigs and poison assassination headlines
Hadda be the dope cops in the Mafia
Sold all that heroin in America
Hadda be the FBI and organized crime working it together in cahoots against the commies
Hadda be ringing on multinational cash registers
World-wide laundry for organized criminal money
Hadda be the CIA and the Mafia and the FBI together
Bigger than Nixon and bigger than war
Hadda be a gorged throat full of murder
Hadda be a mounted ass, a solid mass of rage
Hadda be a red hot head, a scream in the back of the throat
Hadda be in Kissinger's brain
Hadda be in Rockefeller's mouth
Hadda be the central intelligence, the family, offing the agency Mafia
One big set of criminal gangs working together in cahoots
Hitmen, murderers everywhere
Outrage gonna make secret, drunk, brutal, dirty, and rich
On top of a slag heap of prisons
Industrial cancer
Plutonium smog
Garbage cities, grandma's bedsores
Father's resentments
Hadda be the rulers
Wanting law and order
And they got rich on wanting protection for the status quo
Wanted junkies
Wanted Attica
Wanted Kent State
Wanted war in Indochina
Yeah
It hadda be the CIA and the Mafia and the FBI
Multinational capitalists
Strong armed squads
Private detective agencies for the oh so very rich
And their armies, their navies and Air Force bombing planes
Hadda be capitalism
The vortex of this rage
This competition man to man
The horses head in a capitalist's bed
The Cubans' turf in competitions
Hitmen in gang wars across oceans
Bombing Cambodia settled the score
With White House pots and pans
A warning to Mediterranean governments
The secret police have braced for decades
The NKPD and CIA keep each other's secrets
The OGBU and DIA never hit their own
The KGB and the FBI, one mind
Brute force and full of money
One mind, brute force, and full of money
One mind, brute force, and full of money
One mind, brute force, and full of money
One mind, brute force, and full of money
And full of money
And full of money
And full of money
It hadda be rich and they hadda be powerful
They hadda murder in Indonesia five hundred thousand
Hadda murder in Indochina two million
Hadda murder in Czechoslovakia
Hadda murder in Chile
Hadda murder in Russia
And hadda murder in America
Allen Ginsberg's poem hadda play it on the jukebox
Hadda be flashin' like the daily double
Hadda be playin' on TV
Hadda be loud-mouthed on the comedy hour
Hadda be announced over loud speakers
The CIA and the Mafia are in cahoots
It hadda be said in old ladies' language
It hadda be said in American headlines
Kennedy stretched and smiled
And got double-crossed by lowlife goons and agents
Rich bankers with criminal connections
Dope-pushers in CIA working with
Dope-pushers from Cuba working with
Big time syndicate Tampa, Florida
It hadda be said with a big mouth
It hadda be moaned over factory foghorns
It hadda be chattered on car radio news broadcasts
It hadda be screamed in the kitchen
It hadda be yelled in the basement where uncles were fighting
It hadda be howled on the streets by newsboys to bus conductors
Hadda be foghorned into New York harbor
Hadda echo under hard hats
Hadda turn up the volume in the university ballrooms
Hadda be written in library books, footnoted
Hadda be in the headlines of the Times and Le Monde
It hadda be barked over TV
Hadda be heard in side alleys through ballroom doors
It hadda be played on wire services
Hadda be bells ringing
Comedians stopped dead in the middle of a joke in Las Vegas
Hadda be FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover
And Frank Costello syndicate mouthpiece
Meeting in Central Park, New York together weekends
Reported Time magazine
Hadda be the Mafia and the CIA together starting a war on Cuba
Bay of Pigs and poison assassination headlines
Hadda be the dope cops in the Mafia
Sold all that heroin in America
Hadda be the FBI and organized crime working it together in cahoots against the commies
Hadda be ringing on multinational cash registers
World-wide laundry for organized criminal money
Hadda be the CIA and the Mafia and the FBI together
Bigger than Nixon and bigger than war
Hadda be a gorged throat full of murder
Hadda be a mounted ass, a solid mass of rage
Hadda be a red hot head, a scream in the back of the throat
Hadda be in Kissinger's brain
Hadda be in Rockefeller's mouth
Hadda be the central intelligence, the family, offing the agency Mafia
One big set of criminal gangs working together in cahoots
Hitmen, murderers everywhere
Outrage gonna make secret, drunk, brutal, dirty, and rich
On top of a slag heap of prisons
Industrial cancer
Plutonium smog
Garbage cities, grandma's bedsores
Father's resentments
Hadda be the rulers
Wanting law and order
And they got rich on wanting protection for the status quo
Wanted junkies
Wanted Attica
Wanted Kent State
Wanted war in Indochina
Yeah
It hadda be the CIA and the Mafia and the FBI
Multinational capitalists
Strong armed squads
Private detective agencies for the oh so very rich
And their armies, their navies and Air Force bombing planes
Hadda be capitalism
The vortex of this rage
This competition man to man
The horses head in a capitalist's bed
The Cubans' turf in competitions
Hitmen in gang wars across oceans
Bombing Cambodia settled the score
With White House pots and pans
A warning to Mediterranean governments
The secret police have braced for decades
The NKPD and CIA keep each other's secrets
The OGBU and DIA never hit their own
The KGB and the FBI, one mind
Brute force and full of money
One mind, brute force, and full of money
One mind, brute force, and full of money
One mind, brute force, and full of money
One mind, brute force, and full of money
And full of money
And full of money
And full of money
It hadda be rich and they hadda be powerful
They hadda murder in Indonesia five hundred thousand
Hadda murder in Indochina two million
Hadda murder in Czechoslovakia
Hadda murder in Chile
Hadda murder in Russia
And hadda murder in America
Thank you sir.... Wait it out and let him get voted out of office.
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Basically they're saying "is he going to make us pay more money for essential things like mowing and cleaning?" ALL RIGHT! I'LL VOTE FOR HIM. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
I just paid 3 Mexicans $300 to clean my new 10,000 s/ft warehouse yesterday. White bitch and her daughters wanted $800+
They are fucking stupid dude. I hate using the saying "cut off your nose to spite you face" but these idiots are happy to destroy themselves just to practice racism.
I would be focusing on exposing the Republicans on the shit they do now versus to what they've blocked in the past.
What they didn't allow others to do, but Trump. All the shit they have done that has fucked up America.
Impeachment does nothing, now it will bring out information, but in the end, they would lose.
What they didn't allow others to do, but Trump. All the shit they have done that has fucked up America.
Impeachment does nothing, now it will bring out information, but in the end, they would lose.
Oman >>>>>>>>>>>
Fixed
not in meaningful leadership positions.
You just read my reply and you still don't understand the process. An actual vote would come over a year later. It wouldn't even matter. McConnell is irrelevant. I just told you what happened to Nixon
Nixon's impeachment never made it to a Senate vote.
You don't understand the process either. You don't need a conviction in the Senate.
What Trump is counting on is running out the clock until the 2020 election. Barr is running interference through the JD and he's running out the clock with congressional oversight by abusing his executive powers.
Impeachment is the only guarantee that the public will ever know what he, his campaign, and administration have done. The minute he's impeachment, his pardon powers, executive privileges, etc are neutered. He can no longer control the process from the executive branch. People can't ignore congressional subpoenas during impeachment. You'd go straight to prison. Yall don't understand the impeachment process.
All this interference is over. There is no "negotiation" with the Justice Department to get Mueller to publicly testify during and impeachment. He comes when he's given a date.
Etc Etc.
Trump isn't worried about getting convicted. He's worried about the truth coming out. His approval numbers would never survive and he's 20+ points BELOW where Nixon started before impeachment.
You want Trump out in 2020. You fucking impeach him. Anything else is just rolling the dice and eliminating your best weapon.. to inform the nation of all the crimes he's committed. People don't read reports. Only 4% of the population has even looked at the Mueller Report and that's already heavily redacted.
It was just like Nixon...no one read about his crimes... but everyone watched the public hearing and it sank him.
Trump would have no choice but to testify publicly.
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The images of a Muslim is more frightening to all white people than a black man in a hoodie, A dictator with his hands on Nuclear weapons.
The real reason they want to block those from South of the Border is there fear that Muslim "Terrorists" can infiltrate our borders from the South. If they learned to speak fluent Spanish they would be able to blend in and to use brown people with black hair look the same
The real reason they want to block those from South of the Border is there fear that Muslim "Terrorists" can infiltrate our borders from the South. If they learned to speak fluent Spanish they would be able to blend in and to use brown people with black hair look the same
Yeah. I mean running the meaningful committees. All the meaningful committees are understandably run by the experienced Dems in Congress, but they're old school and getting played. Some of these people have been in Congress for 40 years and their experience is actually blinding them to the moment. I don't think they all need to get replaced. I thought Pelosi was necessary for the moment and she started off strong... but they're stuck in old ideologies and these old guys like Nadler barely have the energy, fighting attitude to deal with Trump. They're stuck in "process" while Trump is burning it all down.
You just read my reply and you still don't understand the process. An actual vote would come over a year later. It wouldn't even matter. McConnell is irrelevant. I just told you what happened to Nixon
Nixon's impeachment never made it to a Senate vote.
You don't understand the process either. You don't need a conviction in the Senate.
What Trump is counting on is running out the clock until the 2020 election. Barr is running interference through the JD and he's running out the clock with congressional oversight by abusing his executive powers.
Impeachment is the only guarantee that the public will ever know what he, his campaign, and administration have done. The minute he's impeachment, his pardon powers, executive privileges, etc are neutered. He can no longer control the process from the executive branch. People can't ignore congressional subpoenas during impeachment. You'd go straight to prison. Yall don't understand the impeachment process.
All this interference is over. There is no "negotiation" with the Justice Department to get Mueller to publicly testify during and impeachment. He comes when he's given a date.
Etc Etc.
Trump isn't worried about getting convicted. He's worried about the truth coming out. His approval numbers would never survive and he's 20+ points BELOW where Nixon started before impeachment.
You want Trump out in 2020. You fucking impeach him. Anything else is just rolling the dice and eliminating your best weapon.. to inform the nation of all the crimes he's committed. People don't read reports. Only 4% of the population has even looked at the Mueller Report and that's already heavily redacted.
It was just like Nixon...no one read about his crimes... but everyone watched the public hearing and it sank him.
Trump would have no choice but to testify publicly.
As much as I want this scumbag out of office as I stated dozens of times before, impeachment will never happen as long as McConnell is in control of the republican senate. A successful 2/3 rds vote to impeach will fail in the senate leaving the impeachment process DOA. This is why Nancy Pelosi keeps trying to steer The House in a different direction. The truth is you're dreaming if you think impeachment will ever come to be.
As for Trump testifying, what a laugh. Do you really believe if you can even get Trump to the stand he's going to tell the truth? Trump will go down with his last dying breath lying. Just remember this, even with Trump having no choice but to testify publicly he doesn't have to tell the truth. People go to court all the time and lie.
The only thing that will remove Trump is "the people" public opinion aka election day. Trump failed to win the popular vote in the last election. With his numbers dropping and now having an established track record, he will fail. Provided people treat this next election with the same level of interest as they did with Obama.
No chance of happening because the people that Obama delivered for most are already taken care of (Khazar Jews, LGBTQ, white women) so what incentive do they have to go out? What candidate are the democrats running that will inspire enough hope and change in a voting block that got fleeced when it was time for the hope and change to deliver?
Trump won’t go home until he serves two terms unless he is forcibly removed or resigns and if the democrats don’t beat him in 2019, it is over for their party for good.
This president election will have unprecedented historical ramifications but because of the let down that is fresh on the minds of black people and the increase in voter suppression, it is a shame that more won’t be able to participate.
Hillary ran a poor campaign and still won the popular vote. Biden has this already on lock barring some shenanigans. Now factor in Trump's numbers this s/b no problem, as long as the people get out and vote Trump is finished.
As for those black folk I don't see a letdown, I see people who are angry.
It's so infuriating to watch this shit. Swalwell recently said that one reason not to impeach is that "we're winning in the courts". It's like there's a Superbowl game going on with only one team in the game scoring downs... the other team doesn't even have a starting QB yet and definitely has no coherent strategy. It's just incredibly embarrassing.
Giuliani for all his fuckery demonstrated that Republicans understand one thing very well... the real action is in the court of public opinion. Dems are way way behind and need to get in the fucking game. Fundraising, TV ads, unified messaging, hiring analytics firms like the GOP does to establish more targeted attacks. And yes, tie this motherfucker up in the impeachment process... it needs to be a multipronged approach and it's a battle most of these tired ass dinosaurs aren't up for.
Pressley is super dope, love her. Most of the Justice Dems are rockstars... I can't wrap my head around why some of y'all dislike AOC and Omar so much tbh they are great.
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