TV News: Family Matters star JoMarie Payton says Jaleel White once wanted to 'physically fight' her on set

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Family Matters star JoMarie Payton says Jaleel White once wanted to 'physically fight' her on set
"There was a scene where I said we can't do that, standards and practices will not let that pass, it's not gonna happen. He wanted to do it anyway."
By Andrea Towers
May 05, 2022 at 11:28 AM EDT

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Behind every cheery tight-knit family is a little bit of drama — and the Winslow clan on Family Matters was no exception.

JoMarie Payton, who starred as Winslow matriarch Harriette during the popular sitcom's nine-season run, recently opened up about some of her on-set memories — including stories about the show's breakout star, Jaleel White, who played Steve Urkel.

"There was one time he actually wanted to physically fight me," Payton said in a new interview with ET, alleging the incident took place when they were shooting "Original Gangsta Dawg," an episode in season 9. "There was a scene where I said we can't do that, standards and practices will not let that pass, it's not gonna happen. He wanted to do it anyway."

Payton recalled that White "was so mad, he started kicking and screaming and stuff" and insisted she wanted to "melee," which meant she wanted to fight, Payton soon discovered.

"I turned around — if he wanna fight, I would," she said, adding that costar Darius McCrary, who played her son Eddie, grabbed her before she could "whip his behind."

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JoMarie Payton and Jaleel White in 'Family Matters' | CREDIT: ABC PHOTO ARCHIVES/DISNEY GENERAL ENTERTAINMENT CONTENT VIA GETTY IMAGES
Last year, White got candid about his experience filming the sitcom, admitting that his castmates didn't always welcome him when he joined the show. "I didn't see how I was stepping on anybody's toes… taking anybody's shine. It's very important that I say this: I was not very well welcomed to the cast at all, okay?" White told TVOne's Uncensored. "And I don't need to rehash that with the adults over and over again. They know what it is."

However, the star added that, over time, he made amends with his costars. "It was what it was," he said. "They knew more than I did about the business... at that age. They understood how the dynamic was changing. But I do think they do deserve credit at times for having helped foster a more harmonious environment by season 3, by season 4, by season 5. And we did become very much a family."

With enough time having passed since the days of their sitcom, Payton told ET she has reached a point where she's much more understanding of White's behavior, noting that he was "just a kid" and that he wasn't the only one at fault.

"I give some of those adults credit too," she said. "Letting him run wild and do whatever he wanted to do, thinking he can say what he wants to say, you know, and hurt people's feelings and all that."

Representatives for White and Payton did not immediately respond to EW's request for comment.
 

Darrkman

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Yeah I remember in another interview the writers focused on Urkle cause they wrote him as a white nerd so they could relate to him vs the rest of the Black characters. I can see the rest of the cast being salty about that and anything White did could set them off.
 

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He was the show tho ...show should have been called Urkle ...:rolleyes:

they ate for years cuz of him ..teh rest of the cast were window dressing ...


This is very true, without Urkle that show would have certainly been canceled after season 1.

With Urkle that show lasted 9 seasons. It debuted before Fresh Prince and Martin and was still running after those shows concluded.
 

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He was the show tho ...show should have been called Urkle ...:rolleyes:

they ate for years cuz of him ..teh rest of the cast were window dressing ...
That isnt the show they were sold or signed up for tho. They were promised a family centric sitcom focusing on a black nuclear family. What they got was a show that used the family as a backdrop, turned the husband into near buffoon status and hyperfocused on the annoying kid next door.
 

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He was the show tho ...show should have been called Urkle ...:rolleyes:

they ate for years cuz of him ..teh rest of the cast were window dressing ...
True but urkle wouldn't have been shit without Carl and the rest of the cast to play off of him Eddie and waldo also. Don't for get the girl also Laura her friend max ,myra and all of those fine female extras Eddie dated. I wouldn't say urkle was the show but there's no doubt he saved the show.
 

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I really don't like them airing all this out NOW.

ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW.

good lawd we can't show unity over anything.

it's never the right time but damn

Ain't no reboot happening

Why sully the reputation of another classic black sit com?

Public opinion was never going to go AGAINST Urkel... trust that.

So what is the endgame?

Yeah the title is a little click bait ish but still...

Why do this?

You were still ADULTS no matter what happened we gonna HOLD YOU ALL TO A HIGHER STANDARD TO A CHILD THRUST IN THE SPOTLIGHT AND THRIVED AND WHO HELPED YOU ALL EAT.

Urkel still getting steady work and endorsements.

What the rest doing?
 

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I really don't like them airing all this out NOW.

ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW.

good lawd we can't show unity over anything.

it's never the right time but damn

Ain't no reboot happening

Why sully the reputation of another classic black sit com?

Public opinion was never going to go AGAINST Urkel... trust that.

So what is the endgame?

Yeah the title is a little click bait ish but still...

Why do this?

You were still ADULTS no matter what happened we gonna HOLD YOU ALL TO A HIGHER STANDARD TO A CHILD THRUST IN THE SPOTLIGHT AND THRIVED AND WHO HELPED YOU ALL EAT.

Urkel still getting steady work and endorsements.

What the rest doing?

There’s probably some bombshells that happened behind the scenes on the show that most likely is gearing up to be exposed.

Everybody is going into CYA (Cover Your Ass) mode right now.

Nobody is profiting from talking, but there is something motivating them to talk.
 

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There’s probably some bombshells that happened behind the scenes on the show that most likely is gearing up to be exposed.

Everybody is going into CYA (Cover Your Ass) mode right now.

Nobody is profiting from talking, but there is something motivating them to talk.

Damn...

Bookmarked
 

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That isnt the show they were sold or signed up for tho. They were promised a family centric sitcom focusing on a black nuclear family. What they got was a show that used the family as a backdrop, turned the husband into near buffoon status and hyperfocused on the annoying kid next door.
That's true, but that shit would have been fucking cancelled. Period. It wasn't hitting.

Urkel saved that show. Problem I bet the cast had was Jaleel knew it and those running the show knew it, so naturally that cat got special treatment.
 

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I really don't like them airing all this out NOW.

ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW.

good lawd we can't show unity over anything.

it's never the right time but damn

Ain't no reboot happening

Why sully the reputation of another classic black sit com?

Public opinion was never going to go AGAINST Urkel... trust that.

So what is the endgame?

Yeah the title is a little click bait ish but still...

Why do this?

You were still ADULTS no matter what happened we gonna HOLD YOU ALL TO A HIGHER STANDARD TO A CHILD THRUST IN THE SPOTLIGHT AND THRIVED AND WHO HELPED YOU ALL EAT.

Urkel still getting steady work and endorsements.

What the rest doing?
C'mon stop it

If this mfer got big headed they should be able to state their feelings toward it

Don't forget so the negative shit he w talking yrs ago about the black community if he was white he would never be forgiven
 

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C'mon stop it

If this mfer got big headed they should be able to state their feelings toward it

Don't forget so the negative shit he w talking yrs ago about the black community if he was white he would never be forgiven

Of course they have a right to say it

But what that gonna get them?

They really feel better?

They think folk gonna hate on him especially when he was a kid?

And you making my point he was a CHILD who had the burden of that whole show on his back...

How is that HIS FAULT?

complain about the network and decisions makers

Name names since you telling "your truth"

Again what's the endgame?

You giving the money back?

Now I actually did forget anything bad he was saying about black people - please post it cause I really forgot.

Cause even with that?

Say all this criticism of Urkel THEN.

Cause apparently ain't none of that stick.
 

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Of course they have a right to say it

But what that gonna get them?

They really feel better?

They think folk gonna hate on him especially when he was a kid?

And you making my point he was a CHILD who had the burden of that whole show on his back...

How is that HIS FAULT?

complain about the network and decisions makers

Name names since you telling "your truth"

Again what's the endgame?

You giving the money back?

Now I actually did forget anything bad he was saying about black people - please post it cause I really forgot.

Cause even with that?

Say all this criticism of Urkel THEN.

Cause apparently ain't none of that stick.
They can express their truth
 

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That's true, but that shit would have been fucking cancelled. Period. It wasn't hitting.

Urkel saved that show. Problem I bet the cast had was Jaleel knew it and those running the show knew it, so naturally that cat got special treatment.

Pretty much close to the same scenario with “Good Times” with Jimmy Walker dominating the show over the other actors and being the major star.

It played a part in John Amos leaving.

 

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Pretty much close to the same scenario with “Good Times” with Jimmy Walker dominating the show over the other actors and being the major star.

It played a part in John Amos leaving.

It's fucked up. These characters taking over are basically yesteryear's 'going viral'. When that happens, damn right writers and staff going to play to it and ride it til the wheels fall off. It is what it is.

Shit, Seinfeld basically became the 3rd star on his own show with his fucking name as the title. Wonder how he felt about Kramer or Costanza or did he just ride that shit to the fucking bank.
 

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I just said that.

I just hope this makes them feel better

Post that bullsh*t Urkel said when you get a minute fam

It will probably adjust my stance.
Imma look it in the morning it was a big thread in here a few yrs back around the Ferguson riots time
 

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I genereally agree with the overall feeling in this thread, i.e. the show wouldn't lasted pass season 2 w/o Urkel.

That being said though, in a straight hand-to-hand situation between Harriet vs. Urkel, I'm putting my money on Harriet. The article says that scene was from season 9, so I'd assume everybody already had their money and syndication rights in hand.

Nine years in, I think Harriet would've rag-dolled his little ass up and down the set and not felt bad in the slightest if they didn't ask her back for season 10 :lol:
 
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