TV WTF?!? ‘You’ Star Penn Badgley Wanted No More Intimacy Scenes On His Netflix Show, So The Creator Said Fine

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Did his wife have a problem with the sex scenes? Why'd you tag me on this bro

That is exactly the part I found interesting

Apparently it was his wife that took issue with the sex scenes. That really struck me.

As someone who has known a few actors that part inevitably comes up at every dinner party.

And I thought you'd drop some unique opinion. It's ok to sit this one out bro.
 

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Sex scenes are 99% of the time filler waste of times in shows and non porn movies
Good deal

The deal itself is nice.

But just on a debate topic level I'm really torn. That is essentially WHAT THAT GENRE OF SHOW IS.

In the words of the great... it was what it was when you got here.

If I'm the showrunner?

I'm pissed as f*ck and would make damn sure the contract is clear and don't come on board if you not comfortable with it.
 

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Did his wife have a problem with the sex scenes? Why'd you tag me on this bro
That is exactly the part I found interesting

Apparently it was his wife that took issue with the sex scenes. That really struck me.

As someone who has known a few actors that part inevitably comes up at every dinner party.

And I thought you'd drop some unique opinion. It's ok to sit this one out bro.
I was buzzed last night. I'm ready now

When I first saw this I thought he was either gay and uncomfortable with the sex scenes or married and his wife was uncomfortable with the sex scenes

Turns out it was the second one, the wife.

Tropes are bothersome for a lot of creatives because they want to think outside the box and tropes appeal to the very basic side of human intelligence

When it comes to movies and entertainment shows, most rely heavily on tropes, which is one of the reasons why Michael Bay movies were so popular....stuff stuff stuff stuff EXPLOSION!!!!! stuff stuff...repeat

Tropes are one of the main reasons why you rarely see a completely original type movie because producers are scared not to rely on tropes at all, it's why you see a love scene or a kiss in the middle of a Jurassic Park movie when it really doesn't fit and there's no time and you should be too scared out of your shit to kiss someone, but to quote Dr. Ian Malcolm, "there it is."

I may have only watched an episode or two of the show so I don't know, but for the sake of the show and the showrunner I hope the story is good enough to hold the audience.

Without the tropes, some of your basic audience might leave. It depends on how much of that basic audience is still holding on to the story and the characters and not clinging for a Michael Bay explosion, because if that's the case it's got one or two seasons left

People are stupid, well most of them are, and a lot of the things we do are in support of those stupid people, which is why I'll probably add a sex scene or a love interest to my novel when it probably doesn't fit
 

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never seen the show :dunno::dunno:



It's pretty good. When it's at its best - it's great. But it also has some cheesy stretches. The narration is great - especially how arrogant and sarcastic he is, on top of the overall obsessiveness.






 

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I guess you are tagged cause you are a good writer and it would be interesting to get your perspective.

What if you included a sex scene and the actor now doesn't want to do sex scenes?

I mean sometimes it is part of telling the story.... I dont know.

As a creative I would hate for someone to stop my intention.

Did his wife have a problem with the sex scenes? Why'd you tag me on this bro
 

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The deal itself is nice.

But just on a debate topic level I'm really torn. That is essentially WHAT THAT GENRE OF SHOW IS.

In the words of the great... it was what it was when you got here.

If I'm the showrunner?

I'm pissed as f*ck and would make damn sure the contract is clear and don't come on board if you not comfortable with it.

You've got.them already.
That's the difference between good shows and great shows

Game of thrones was nothing but ladies with 1 tit out for like 2 seasons

Then it was a show
 

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I guess you are tagged cause you are a good writer and it would be interesting to get your perspective.

What if you included a sex scene and the actor now doesn't want to do sex scenes?

I mean sometimes it is part of telling the story.... I dont know.

As a creative I would hate for someone to stop my intention.
High me was like, "why'd you tag me?" :giggle:

I'm not high so I get it now. But as a creative I would be worried about losing the part of the audience that Tunes in or rather doesn't lose interest in the talking parts because there's no sex
 

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Once you got em stop being a hoe

I think we are discussing 2 or 3 different things.

If your show is based on sex that isn't a bad thing. If it's ONLY hook is sex? We have a problem. Not SPECIFICALLY because it's sex btw. Just because you should never limit yourself

But again a hook a twist a troupe to catch attention?

Still not a bad thing just be aware of who and what you are.

I'm more on the acting thing.

You signed up for a role and knew what the character was before you signed up. It is a romantic lead. Your contractually obligated for that.

It's acting it's pretend.

That is a YOU problem (pun intended) that you and/or your mate are unable or unwilling to seperate fantasy from reality.

I feel the same about nude scenes dialogue etc.

Of course discussions should be and must be had. Comfort, bad chemistry etc etc but overall?

Do the work.
 

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I think we are discussing 2 or 3 different things.

If your show is based on sex that isn't a bad thing. If it's ONLY hook is sex? We have a problem. Not SPECIFICALLY because it's sex btw. Just because you should never limit yourself

But again a hook a twist a troupe to catch attention?

Still not a bad thing just be aware of who and what you are.

I'm more on the acting thing.

You signed up for a role and knew what the character was before you signed up. It is a romantic lead. Your contractually obligated for that.

It's acting it's pretend.

That is a YOU problem (pun intended) that you and/or your mate are unable or unwilling to seperate fantasy from reality.

I feel the same about nude scenes dialogue etc.

Of course discussions should be and must be had. Comfort, bad chemistry etc etc but overall?

Do the work.

But my thing is the show has to evolve it's not about doing the work, he did the work that's why they're on season 4

Are you going to stay the same or push toward something new?
 

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But my thing is the show has to evolve it's not about doing the work, he did the work that's why they're on season 4

Are you going to stay the same or push toward something new?

I agree with you TOTALLY

but he did NOT make this decision to IMPROVE the show.

This was personal

We can't just act like that's the same thing

It ain't.

And again not having sex scenes doesn’t evolve or elevate the show somehow

I don't agree with that part
 

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I agree with you TOTALLY

but he did NOT make this decision to IMPROVE the show.

This was personal

We can't just act like that's the same thing

It ain't.

And again not having sex scenes doesn’t evolve or elevate the show somehow

I don't agree with that part

Why do we respect it when women choose to do the same thing then?


It absolutely evolves the show
No more cheap filler with random sex
It's a cat and mouse game about a stalker
The detective work and the insight to the mind of the hunter and hunted is what is interesting about the show
Not the sex
 

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Why do we respect it when women choose to do the same thing then?


It absolutely evolves the show
No more cheap filler with random sex
It's a cat and mouse game about a stalker
The detective work and the insight to the mind of the hunter and hunted is what is interesting about the show
Not the sex

Who you calling we Kemosabe?

I don't respect that either.
 

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Why do we respect it when women choose to do the same thing then?


It absolutely evolves the show
No more cheap filler with random sex
It's a cat and mouse game about a stalker
The detective work and the insight to the mind of the hunter and hunted is what is interesting about the show
Not the sex

We a little off track with each other

I wasn't talking SPECIFIC to THIS show

I was talking sex and intimacy scenes in GENERAL.

But I DO think THAT core audience ALSO appreciates the sex.
 

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Why do we respect it when women choose to do the same thing then?


It absolutely evolves the show
No more cheap filler with random sex

It's a cat and mouse game about a stalker
The detective work and the insight to the mind of the hunter and hunted is what is interesting about the show
Not the sex
So many shows do this and it's just flying under the radar for the most part but they do it as unnecessary filler. That/those sex scene(s) turns a 39 minute show into a 42 minute show

Step up your game writers and directors. The question is is the content strong enough to warrant losing the sex scenes and will eliminating the sex scenes affect the draw?
 

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We a little off track with each other

I wasn't talking SPECIFIC to THIS show

I was talking sex and intimacy scenes in GENERAL.

But I DO think THAT core audience ALSO appreciates the sex.

The issue isn't the scenes
It's what do they demonstrate?
If they don't move the story forward then why have it?
 

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The issue isn't the scenes
It's what do they demonstrate?
If they don't move the story forward then why have it?

Hold on hold on

Yall creatives gotta understand

It's a business

This is for the PEOPLE

tits and ass ain't never gonna go outta style

And a good sex scene can make an entire episode or movie POP

Now if it actually increases character depth complexity agency story arc

Well of course

And DO NOT act like a good sex scene cannot do that.
 

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Hold on hold on

Yall creatives gotta understand

It's a business

This is for the PEOPLE

tits and ass ain't never gonna go outta style

And a good sex scene can make an entire episode or movie POP

Now if it actually increases character depth complexity agency story arc

Well of course

And DO NOT act like a good sex scene cannot do that.

It always can

It rarely does
 
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