UPDATE: Tariq Nasheed pushed for $7Mil for Hidden History Museum; Transformer is FBA First ‘Lady’

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I have non-profit. A consultant firm advised me to focus on white first to build credibility, then pivot to black. It worked. We do not get treated like most other "black" businesses. It's sad that we had to maneuver this way.

What type of non-profit service do you provide?
 

xxxbishopxxx

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Donations???

Kevin Samuels was a content creator. He was the product which negates the need for a book.

I agree, I think the Tariq hate is unwarranted. He provides a product. People can choose to buy or not. However, it's difficult to understand why the people who do not buy his product get so upset at those who do buy his product and are happy with his or her purchase.

If I buy a hooptie from a car dealer and I love the car, why get mad at the car dealer for selling me the hooptie?
Since we are specifically talking about the museum, what product are peoole getting at this point?

Also, if he's asking for Tesla money and ends up buying a hooptie, you don't see a problem with that?
 

ghoststrike

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Regardless of Umar's good intentions, he's still sitting on money that is not being used as intended. The fact that he's stubborn is a series issue. He's been very cryptic about how much he's raised and what he's doing with the money at this point. We won't even get into the accreditation issues he's going to have, since he doesn't want to follow current academic guidelines.
Plus everyone forgets he was trying to guilt folks into providing FREE labor and supplies towards fixing up his building.

Tariq literally wrote tweets talking about how stupid the idea of black museums were and all of a sudden he's asking for 7 million to build a museum in a major city. Mr. expert how realistic is it to buy land, build a museum, staff it, maintain it, stock it with exhibits for 7 million (especially if he sticks with trying to do this in California)? Also, again you ain't getting the money from the rich, you are asking everyday folk to maintain this project for life.

Jay's Oklahoma fund was not geared towards people that could afford to loose the money in a risky investment. In fact, it seems folk with money stayed away from it. The only people that seem to loose out, where the ones that couldn't really afford to loose money in risky ventures. From my understanding, he walked away with half a mill, while everyone else walked away with pennies at this this point. You can pretend all you want about this just being just another business venture that could have gone either way. However, anyone who watched any of his videos about the fund, could see he was playing on black folks emotions when trying to get this thing funded. Yes, his was the most legit out of all of them, still doesn't mean that his legit venture wasn't a hustle that burned quite a few people.

Why do folks pretend that black folk stealing from naive, poor black folk is not much worse than than when white folks do it? People looked up to these folks and expected them to look out for them because of the color of their skin. "Family" robbing "family" is always going to sting worse than when a stranger does it. You know it and I know it too.

Finally, you complain about black folk being too judgemental when it comes to black projects. However, these three had the audience to get their projects off the ground, excessive scrutiny or not.

By the way, I bet you would be the first to tell folk they should have done their research if someone feels like they were taken advantage of.

EXACTLY

These FACTS (not "scrutiny" or "hate") were mentioned almost a year ago and here we are with the expected outcome. Cats basically provided spoilers.

Not at all. In fact, it is important to scrutinize all ventures. Unfortunately, white ventures do not receive the same skepticism as black ventures. My initial post was not to excuse their poor execution. My post was intended to shed light to the idea that a bad outcome can come from good intentions. I believe this is the case in all three situations.

Yes, they also attempted to enrich themselves in the process. I see nothing wrong with that. Every successful non-profit does this. People willingly donated, bought product, invested, etc. The heads of these ventures deserve to pay themselves. Why should they work for free.

So, you see nothing wrong with requesting donations for a product (Hidden Museum) that was never going to realistically materialize. Cool.

The mental gymnastics you do to make this link is astounding! This made NO SENSE!!! We are talking about Tariq and his museum. We'll get on Joe in another thread!!! If you think it is refreshing to have someone take a grand from you under false pretenses...I could have easily made you immortal with my Miracle Spring Water! You may have heard of it from Peter Popoff Ministries, but he got it from me and mine ACTUALLY works, which is why I have to charge you for it!

Dude truly lives up to his user name, no matter how many times his pockets are kicked with a "sounds good" scam, he'll always be there like Dorothy's (from the Wizard of Oz) pet, Totto

Ready to follow Reeq in his next project :roflmao: :lol:

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Donations???

Kevin Samuels was a content creator. He was the product which negates the need for a book.

I agree, I think the Tariq hate is unwarranted. He provides a product. People can choose to buy or not. However, it's difficult to understand why the people who do not buy his product get so upset at those who do buy his product and are happy with his or her purchase.

If I buy a hooptie from a car dealer and I love the car, why get mad at the car dealer for selling me the hooptie?

It's hilarious when cats simply point out the next predictable SPOILER based on Reeq's track record, it's "Tariq hate is unwarranted" :lol:

Tariq did NOT provide the product (Museum) that the donations were requested for. To say he provided the product for that is a lie. The $7M goal was not realistically in the ball park anyways but whatever.
 
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Tito_Jackson

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EXACTLY

These FACTS (not "scrutiny" or "hate") were mentioned almost a year ago and here we are with the expected outcome. Cats basically provided spoilers.



So, you see nothing wrong with requesting donations for a product (Hidden Museum) that was never going to realistically materialize. Cool.



Dude truly lives up to his user name, no matter how many times his pockets are kicked with a "sounds good" scam, he'll always be there like Dorothy's (from the Wizard of Oz) pet, Totto

Ready to follow Reeq in his next project :roflmao: :lol:

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It's hilarious when cats simply point out the next predictable SPOILER based on Reeq's track record, it's "Tariq hate is unwarranted" :lol:

Tariq did NOT provide the product (Museum) that the donations were requested for. To say he provided the product for that is a lie.
Isn't it still in progress though??
 

CptMARVEL

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EXACTLY

These FACTS (not "scrutiny" or "hate") were mentioned almost a year ago and here we are with the expected outcome. Cats basically provided spoilers.



So, you see nothing wrong with requesting donations for a product (Hidden Museum) that was never going to realistically materialize. Cool.



Dude truly lives up to his user name, no matter how many times his pockets are kicked with a "sounds good" scam, he'll always be there like Dorothy's (from the Wizard of Oz) pet, Totto

Ready to follow Reeq in his next project :roflmao: :lol:

6d3b09a57e560ad49900551e4a768e1e.gif




It's hilarious when cats simply point out the next predictable SPOILER based on Reeq's track record, it's "Tariq hate is unwarranted" :lol:

Tariq did NOT provide the product (Museum) that the donations were requested for. To say he provided the product for that is a lie.
Careful, bro.
You're about to be accused of being an "agent" or having a crab in the barrel mentality.
It's your fault and people like you who make it difficult for Black people to come together and be unified.
Now:
- Shut up.
- Stop thinking critically.
- Stop asking silly questions.
- Stop holding con men, grifters, hotep hustlers people accountable for their actions.

And just give Tariq your hard earned money and start believing he's got Black people's best intentions in hand... :rolleyes:
 

Megatron X

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Tariq is asking for money for his new movie. I think that’s wrong cause you have to get that museum first. You can’t ask for money for a new project and you haven’t finished your first one yet. People will begin to look at you sideways.
 

Tito_Jackson

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What type of non-profit service do you provide?
My non-profit is rooted in erraticating health inequity. This includes, but is not limited to Healthcare education, Healthcare navigation, and social determinants of health. A few of our largest activities revolve around facilitating a space and forums for black and Hispanic Healthcare providers to network and discuss issues that pertain to our community. You would be surprised how little they see of each other. These events are coupled with mentoring. We invite local medical residents and med students to the annual event to meet potential mentors. Another component of the organization is scholarships. We provide scholarships to undergraduate students interested in practicing primary care in undeserved communities. My favorite aspect of the organization is the summer program. Every Saturday for eight weeks we teach elementary and middle school students about science and anatomy. Our goal is to demystify math and science so that black kids won't run away from those subjects and majors in college and in high school. Every student learns basic calculus before the program is over.
 

babygwirl18

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Tariq makes movies for Black people, and tells our history. Why shouldn’t he ask for our help to do it.

What is he supposed to do, take a vow of poverty?

Also, he seems to come through with everything he raises money for. If he produces a museum, or an art gallery, or whatever, it’s better than having nothing.

Now Dr Umar is a scam artist. All the donations go to paying his rent
 

Tito_Jackson

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Tariq is asking for money for his new movie. I think that’s wrong cause you have to get that museum first. You can’t ask for money for a new project and you haven’t finished your first one yet. People will begin to look at you sideways.
Why can't he do more than one thing at a time. It is quite possible that the some of the profits from his other ventures is partly being used to fund the museum.
 

ghoststrike

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Isn't it still in progress though??

His initial pitch was for a Museum at a specific location with a large foot print. The latest update is vague with possible locations on a different street that include a house and a much smaller building that shares space with a liquor store for a possible "art gallery".

Interestingly, this "venture" was after he said numerous times said Museums are stupid.

But hey, keep hope alive, fam
 
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ghoststrike

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Careful, bro.
You're about to be accused of being an "agent" or having a crab in the barrel mentality.
It's your fault and people like you who make it difficult for Black people to come together and be unified.
Now:
- Shut up.
- Stop thinking critically.
- Stop asking silly questions.
- Stop holding con men, grifters, hotep hustlers people accountable for their actions.

And just give Tariq your hard earned money and start believing he's got Black people's best intentions in hand... :rolleyes:

Like i said previously, fam, Umar showed him the blueprint.
 

Tito_Jackson

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His initial pitch was museum at a specific location with a large foot print. The latest update is vague with possible locations on a different street that include a house and a much smaller building that shares space with a liquor store for a possible "art gallery".

This "venture" was after he said numerous times said Museums are stupid.

But hey, keep hope alive.
I think we can all agree that with any venture, there has to be some flexibility and ability to pivot due to unforseen circumstances. Mortgage payments are 95% higher than they were 1 year ago. Property values have increased dramatically. His initial projections are no longer valid. I think it is reasonable to expect so delays or changes due to the current climate.
 

ghoststrike

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I think we can all agree that with any venture, there has to be some flexibility and ability to pivot due to unforseen circumstances. Mortgage payments are 95% higher than they were 1 year ago. Property values have increased dramatically. His initial projections are no longer valid. I think it is reasonable to expect so delays or changes due to the current climate.

Tariq needs to give Umar dapz

Yea, its still ongoing. 2065 is the projected opening date but subject to change:lol: :roflmao:
 
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Megatron X

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Why can't he do more than one thing at a time. It is quite possible that the some of the profits from his other ventures is partly being used to fund the museum.

He got all the funds needed for the museum. If you paid somebody for a product or service and they didn’t show yet are you gonna pay for a newer product or service?
 

xxxbishopxxx

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Why can't he do more than one thing at a time. It is quite possible that the some of the profits from his other ventures is partly being used to fund the museum.
He is more than welcome to show some financials that shows how much of his personal wealth is going towards the museum. At this point, he is selling it as a 100 percent crowd source project.
 

Tito_Jackson

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He got all the funds needed for the museum. If you paid somebody for a product or service and they didn’t show yet are you gonna pay for a newer product or service?
According to him, he does not have all the funds. Also, when you donate, you are not "paying" for a service. You are simply giving your money to an organization that is aligned with your beliefs in hopes that they will use the money to further the cause that you and the organization agree on.
Raising the money wasn't the issue and it's not progress. Progress is signing some paperwork and putting down deposits. He said he needed the mil to get things started. So what's the hold up?
What do you expect to be signed?? What are you expecting to see?? A million can be used up rather quickly with just consulting fees and planning. Additionally, no organization would raise a million and then immediately spend the entire million. That's idiotic.
He is more than welcome to show some financials that shows how much of his personal wealth is going towards the museum. At this point, he is selling it as a 100 percent crowd source project.
I also run a non-profit and I have never posted my financials to the internet. Because I am a 501c3, I file a 990 annually and my financials can be viewed there. Non-profits do not have to have open books or meetings for the public nor are we obligated to share detailed expense reports other than TF990.

I have taught competitive strategy for non-profits at a university for a number of years. What Tariq and Umar are doing is no where near egregious compared to how many white "non-profits" operate. The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. operates very similar to how many white NPs operate and thats why people don't like that ish.

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APOPHIS

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My non-profit is rooted in erraticating health inequity. This includes, but is not limited to Healthcare education, Healthcare navigation, and social determinants of health. A few of our largest activities revolve around facilitating a space and forums for black and Hispanic Healthcare providers to network and discuss issues that pertain to our community. You would be surprised how little they see of each other. These events are coupled with mentoring. We invite local medical residents and med students to the annual event to meet potential mentors. Another component of the organization is scholarships. We provide scholarships to undergraduate students interested in practicing primary care in undeserved communities. My favorite aspect of the organization is the summer program. Every Saturday for eight weeks we teach elementary and middle school students about science and anatomy. Our goal is to demystify math and science so that black kids won't run away from those subjects and majors in college and in high school. Every student learns basic calculus before the program is over.


Quite impressive. In the later part of 2020, my consultancy worked alongside a consortium of health inequity-based firms to help determine the social and economic impact of COVID-19 on Black and "minority" :hmm: communities. We assessed the conditions of COVID and proposed working solutions for the Mayor's health inequity cabinet. My firm's involvement was to determine financial losses incurred on small businesses of color and provide both long and immediate action steps to alleviate and remedy these conditions. I generally provide consulting services to SMEs and founders, but being a part of a group comprised of 15+ black (and other) consultants directly advising the Mayor's office was a great opportunity for visibility.

We work in different consulting fields, but I often find my path intersecting and merging with many of the program examples you highlighted.
 
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xxxbishopxxx

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According to him, he does not have all the funds. Also, when you donate, you are not "paying" for a service. You are simply giving your money to an organization that is aligned with your beliefs in hopes that they will use the money to further the cause that you and the organization agree on.

What do you expect to be signed?? What are you expecting to see?? A million can be used up rather quickly with just consulting fees and planning. Additionally, no organization would raise a million and then immediately spend the entire million. That's idiotic.

I also run a non-profit and I have never posted my financials to the internet. Because I am a 501c3, I file a 990 annually and my financials can be viewed there. Non-profits do not have to have open books or meetings for the public nor are we obligated to share detailed expense reports other than TF990.

I have taught competitive strategy for non-profits at a university for a number of years. What Tariq and Umar are doing is no where near egregious compared to how many white "non-profits" operate. The Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, Inc. operates very similar to how many white NPs operate and thats why people don't like that ish.

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Where in my statement did I say or imply he had spend the entire mil?

Even if you don't have to show anything to the public, you still have to file some paperwork that is accessible for someone to see.

If Tariq is on the up and up, he should have no issues with showing where some of the money is going.

You keep writing all this other bullshit, when we are discussing him specifically raising money for his museum. If he just said I need money to produce content or just to float his organization, we wouldn't be having this debate.
 
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