Update: Vice President Kamala Harris is now the Democratic presidential nominee
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I like the real house of Washington DC politics clip…
To be fair I don't think we would have appreciated Biden as much back then so I could still have seen him losing to Trump.
I don't think some people really considered how bad a president he could be and unfortunately needed to see it before they would wake up.
Sadly there are still a lot of people who still haven't learned
2016 they didn't want Biden, either.
This is absolutely true.
Being a New Yorker who grew up privileged you know it eats away at him that his base consists of the mid-western and southern people he looked down on all his life as dumb hillbillies.
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Exactly.
Timing is everything.
Kamala didn't stand a chance in 2020 but now seems to have a buzz that I can only compare to 2008 Obama.
To be fair I don't think we would have appreciated Biden as much back then so I could still have seen him losing to Trump.
I don't think some people really considered how bad a president he could be and unfortunately needed to see it before they would wake up.
Sadly there are still a lot of people who still haven't learned
When it's all said and done, I think folks are going to look back on Biden in a similar way people look at Jimmy Carter. A president that should have been given more time.
If more time is 2016-2024 I agree.
But if we're talking about him continuing on for another 4 years after this I'd have to disagree for his sake. I wish it was under better circumstances but I'm glad he's moving on.
Another term would have literally killed him.
You can already see the difference physically and cognitively since he dropped out of the race.
Nothing wrong with Biden he’s just old. And it’s time for some new blood. It might be Kamala time. It shore does feel that way. I wasn’t a believer at all. Now I feel like she gonna kill him…
Who you talking about pimp?
I didn't believe either and thought Biden dropping out would spell doom.
I was too caught up on Kamala's 2020 performance and thought she'd never be accepted.
Truthfully I'm still not sure that she would have if it didn't play out exactly as it did.
Had that debate never occurred and Biden announced early that he wasn't running and instead would be endorsing Kamala I'm not so sure there'd be this level of excitement for her.
What’s that Ohio Michigan Arizona and Nevada?
Them Cowboys fan claiming they going to win the Super Bowl every damn year and can’t even get out of the first round in the playoffs. SMH lol
Timing! Dems got a little lucky and played it right going forward. Doesn’t hurt that this idiot trump is cannibalizing himself…
lol lol like NY knicks fans Laker fans lol lol
The article didn’t say specifically
Poll: Harris jumps to a small national lead over Trump
Domenico MontanaroAugust 6, 20244:02 PM ET
Left: U.S. Vice President Harris arrives for an NCAA championship teams celebration on the South Lawn of the White House on July 22 in Washington, D.C. Right: Republican presidential nominee and former President Donald Trump holds a rally at the Van Andel Arena on July 20 in Grand Rapids, Mich.
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Vice President Harris has upended the presidential race and has now built a 51%-48% lead over former President Trump, according to the latest NPR/PBS News/Marist poll.
That result is 4 points better than just after Harris got into the race two weeks ago when President Biden bowed out. Harris maintains a 3-point lead (48%-45%) when third-party choices are offered, too.
Fueling her rise are Black voters, white women with college degrees and women who identify as political independents. She is doing 20 to 30 points better with them than when she first got in, leading to improvement in the suburbs and with white voters overall.
On the issues, the negative views of the economy are not sticking to Harris the way they did Biden. Trump is still more trusted on the economy, but only by 3 points over Harris (51%-48%), compared to 9 points over Biden (54%-45%) in June.
Harris is also seeing improvement on how she would handle immigration, though Trump is still more trusted on that topic by 6 points (52%-46%). Harris’ best issue is handling abortion rights. She has a 15-point advantage on that.
The survey was conducted from Thursday through Sunday, before Harris picked Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as her vice-presidential running mate. Marist interviewed 1,613 adults via cellphone, landline and online research panels in English and in Spanish. The survey has a margin of error of +/- 3.3 percentage points, meaning results could be roughly 3 points higher or lower.
Women, Black voters and independents have all moved toward Harris
Because of Harris’ gains with certain groups, she’s also improved her standing in the suburbs and with white voters overall.But there’s now a 22-point gender gap, which is wider than the margin between Trump and Biden in July. Harris now leads by 13 points with women (55%-42%), but is losing men by 9 points (54%-45%). Considering the margin of error, those are close to the results of the 2020 presidential election, according to exit polls.
Harris’ biggest boost is coming with Black voters. She has gone from a 23-point lead with Black voters over Trump a couple of weeks ago, when many voters moved into the undecided camp, to a 54-point lead now. Harris is moving closer to territory where Democrats need to be with Black voters.
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Some Black voters, who appeared to be considering Trump, have moved away from him, as he’s dropped 10 points with them.
Harris is also now winning independents, something Biden was not doing. Harris is up 9 points with independents (53%-44%). She was down 14 points with them last month. And in early July, Trump was beating Biden by 4 pointswith the group.
Harris has also improved with white voters overall. Harris has gone from 40% with white voters overall to 46% in this survey, which is closer to where Biden was, and that’s very high for a Democrat. In fact, no Democrat has scored that high with white voters in a presidential election since Jimmy Carter in 1976. Biden got 41% in 2020, Barack Obama in 2008 won 43%.
That improvement is mostly because of college-educated white women. White voters without degrees, a core Trump base group, are heavily in Trump’s favor and their margin is unchanged. Two-thirds of college-educated white women, though, are now in Harris’ camp, which would be far higher than the percentage that sided with Biden in 2020.
She’s also winning with older voters. Harris is leading Trump by 11 points with baby boomers (55%-44%), for example.
Latinos have also moved in Harris’ favor.Fifty-eight percent say they would vote for her now, compared to 51% last month. That’s still below the 65% Biden won in 2020.
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Harris is not where she needs to be with voters under 45 at this point. Biden won them in 2020 by 14 points. Harris and Trump right now are tied with the group. Where Harris does far better than Biden with the group, though, is retaining them when third parties are introduced.
Biden was seeing double-digit drop-offs with Gen Z/millennials, for example. Harris, on the other hand, maintains and slightly expands her margin when respondents have a choice of candidates other than the two major-party picks.
Harris is benefiting from a boost in enthusiasm with core Democratic voter groups
Black, Latino and younger voters are saying they’re more fired up to vote now that Harris is in the race.Black voters, Latinos and Gen Z/millennial voters have all jumped double-digits in saying they’re definitely voting.
In July, just 71% of Black voters, 68% of Latinos and 65% of Gen Z/millennials said they were definitely voting, among the lowest of any groups.
But now, that’s up to 81% with Black voters, 84% with Latinos and 80% with Gen Z/millennials, closer to being on par with white voters than in previous surveys.
Third parties seeing their lowest marks of the election
With Harris in the race, people appear to be moving away from third parties.All of the third-party candidates are seeing their worst scores since Marist started asking about them in April. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., running as an independent, is down to just 5%. Professor Cornel West, also running as an independent, Green Party candidate Jill Stein and Libertarian Chase Oliver are all polling at or below 1%.
Kennedy still does best with those who have an unfavorable opinion of both Trump and Harris, pulling in about a third of those voters.
People are split on who they think will win, but far more say Harris will than they said of Biden
Last month, respondents were 20 points more likely to say Trump would beat Biden (59%-39%). Now, they’re split (48%-48%).Sponsor Message
Notably, independents have flipped from 58% thinking Trump would win to 52% now saying they think Harris will.
People are also more satisfied with their choices, though only 47% say they are compared to 50% who say they are not. In June, there was a 10-point difference between people satisfied (42%) and those who were dissatisfied with their choices (52%).
Being honest and trustworthy is the most important quality for a president
While trustworthiness was the most important quality for Democrats and independent voters, a plurality of Republicans said a “strong leader” was most important to them.All signs continue to point to a close election — not just in the presidential but also for Congress
Forty-seven percent said they want to see Democrats in control of Congress, while 45% said Republicans. That 2-point advantage is unchanged from June.Democrats traditionally need a wider advantage in that score to make significant gains — in 2022, when they denied Republicans from winning a wave of House seats, they had a 4-point edge in the Marist poll; in 2020, it was 8, but Democrats lost House seats; they were +6 in 2018 and made significant gains, however; in 2014, when Republicans won seats, Republicans were +5 on the question.
The congressional ballot and the change in numbers of seats don’t always correlate cleanly because of where the most competitive seats are that cycle. In this cycle, for example, many are in suburban areas in New York, California and around Philadelphia, where Democrats have advantages in presidential years because of higher turnout among their core voter groups.
Biden’s approval is up
Now that Biden has dropped out of the race, his approval rating is seeing a bounce.His approval is now 46%, which is the highest since February of 2023 and up 5 points since last month.
VP Harris could not have picked a better VP Candidate. They both have CHARISMA, fired up energy from the EXPANDING voting blocs. and will be laughing their way into the WH while styling on FELONIOUS and the COUCH-FUCKER.
man lets be real - they would have attacked Biden too with the same shit that he was attacked with in 2020...
and they were attacking him with the same shit AND with being old
Dems should not be so self congratulatory- in 2016 they let themselves get burned by a stove they knew was hot - and still didnt learn this year when it looked like theyd have to touch the stove.... on purpose.
the energy people have now is the energy they should have had back in 2016 to get the whole network of asshole conservatives out of office ......Dems enabled and shit the bed by fighting about Hillary instead of making the best out of the situation...and allowed this Orange Clown to plague us and give inspiration who a whole raft of neo nazi militia christo facist assholes that we will have to deal with now in government and in our judicial system .... and by doign the same shit they did in 2016 they were about to fuck it up....
to his credit Biden stepped aside - and be aware- folk were lining up to toss Harris out too and talking about we need to have a whole new convention and vote.....
its nice that Harris is getting all this love - but Dems better follow thru - because the stats say that Trump and Harris are STILL 50/50
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