Update: Vice President Kamala Harris is now the Democratic presidential nominee

playahaitian

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If that's the question, the answer is: yes.

I'm still not ready to say specifically, but I also can't say that it was a flawless campaign. Mistakes were made, and while the outreach game was strong, I would argue that they probably did lose touch with base voters by trying to reach too hard to Republicans who have consistently shown that they are intransigent.

That's not ignoring the voters, who consistently vote against their best interest (or specifically, the public's best interest). But that's not what you asked.

A great response.

And I agree with with everything you said.

One thing I DO thing there were voting blocks they did "ignore" both intentionally and intentionally.

And the turnout proves that
 

playahaitian

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So many in here are falling for the Okie doke.

White working class voters will never come over to the Democratic party as long as the Democratic party also appeals to Black voters. White Working Class People view Black people as rivals and they do not want Black people to have any success. They view Black success as something that's taking away from their success.

Also one more thing, a lot of these white dudes who are in unions they're about to get a huge wake up call. Because I know they voted for Trump and nobody is as anti-union As Trump and his crew of people.

Bars of truth

ESPECIALLY ABOUT UNIONS

wait till they get a load of Elon

Plus Dana and Rogan in the white house
 

playahaitian

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Ran a woman. This country, regardless of her color, IS NOT going to elect a woman for POTUS. Look at those ballots in Michigan & N.C. They voted Dem down ticket, and then voted for Trump. Again, JMO.

^^^^^

I feel like the democrats don't wanna address their own constitutes

ALL OF THEM

The ones who don't fall in neat categories.
 

DJCandle

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He's not just referring to this campaign though but to what Democrats have been doing for decades. This campaign was very "moderate" in the sense that Kamala veered far right. When Trump can criticize you for playing nice with "war criminals" like the Cheneys, then you've gone too far.

So, I guess you're right in this sense, the moderates were left behind but not for the left wing. The Democrats treat the left wing like red-headed step children. They were left by the Democrats for the right-wing.

Shit, even in her concession speech, Kamala offered to help Trump. She veered right and it hurt her. No one speaks to working class concerns better than the left. Forget the culture war bullshit, the left, not the Democrats, have been the only group to consistently fight for labor, the poor, and the working class.
And I agree… but did the correct amount of people voting FEEL that this time around?

Because that feeling is all that really matters and if they did, we’d be singing a different tune right about now.

Again, between Harris, Biden, and you could maybe say Obama, there was an overwhelming focus on inclusion and being “woke.” In one form or another. Meanwhile the important matters were forgotten about.

And you can forget about them for a bit but eventually you’re gonna have to address it and win your base back or else we run the risk of the Orange Cheetos motorcade clogging up Pennsylvania Ave. People weren’t gonna give up their basic needs and security just to be inclusive virtue signalers.
 

APOPHIS

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Ok I just need a one word response to this specific question...

DID THE DEMOCRATS DO ANYTHING WRONG THAT LEAD TO THIS RESULT?

My brother @easy_b believes Democrats dis absolutely nothing wrong and this all lays at the feet of the racist uneducated voters who supported a felon rapist neo nazi.

I disagree.

I think it's much more complicated and while it's true this voter base is very distressing choosing the worst of us to be the leader of free world, the democrats are guilty of a serious disconnect within their party. They have to fix that.

What say yall?

@Camille @woodchuck @DC_Dude @EPDC @REDLINE @Piff Henderson @blackbull1970 @Duece

@850credit has a thread where many others and I discuss this issue.
 

blackbull1970

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Ok I just need a one word response to this specific question...

DID THE DEMOCRATS DO ANYTHING WRONG THAT LEAD TO THIS RESULT?

My brother @easy_b believes Democrats dis absolutely nothing wrong and this all lays at the feet of the racist uneducated voters who supported a felon rapist neo nazi.

I disagree.

I think it's much more complicated and while it's true this voter base is very distressing choosing the worst of us to be the leader of free world, the democrats are guilty of a serious disconnect within their party. They have to fix that.

What say yall?

@Camille @woodchuck @DC_Dude @EPDC @REDLINE @Piff Henderson @blackbull1970 @Duece

I stated earlier the fault of the Democratic Party losing this election is due to them.

I stated finger pointing is going around in the party. Blame is being put on Black Men, White Women, Latino Women, LGBT and other issues.

President Obama mentioned after Trump got inaugurated back in 2017 that Trump is not the problem, he is a symptom of the problem.

It’s been pointed out by a number of people in this thread that Misogyny/Racism played a part. That is correct.

But the main issue goes back to the 1980s when President Reagan (R) was in office and he kicked in “Reaganomics”.

The Democratic Party reluctantly went along with Reagan’s Neoliberalism creating the “Blue Dog Democrats”. These were Democrats who were Moderate with some Conservative views.

Massive cuts to Education and the Social Safety Net (Anybody remember “The Black Teenage Welfare Queen”?).

NAFTA was created during the Reagan/Bush administrations and signed into law by President Clinton (D). This trade deal immediately kicked in the exportation of American Factory jobs, destroying the unions and diminishing the Middle Class. Over the decades we started seeing more adults working in the service sector (Fast Food and Retail) doing jobs traditionally held by high school/college kids.

The Drug War was applified by Reagan and kicked into full gear by Clinton with the Crime Bill, creating the Private Prison Industrial Complex and turning police into a paramilitary style organization with surplus military gear.

Democrats (including Biden who was a Senator during all that and supported it) went along with them sucking up to the GOP.

The GOP has been playing the long game since the 1970s. They realized with all the social change of the 1960s (Civil Rights Bill, Voting Rights Act and later Roe V. Wade and creation of the Birth Control Pill), they were a dying a party and sat down and played the long game.

The GOP knew back in the 1970s the White Population was diminishing and would be a minority at some point in the 21st Century. President Nixon (R) kicked in the “Southern Strategy” by playing on White peoples fear of race and that non-whites are rising up and will get revenge/retribution on the White Population (sound familiar?)

Someone posted earlier about Lee Atwater. He is the mofo who was part of the Southern Strategy.

Another mofo was Paul Weyrich, co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, the below video explains itself…



Trump didn’t follow this and just came right out and said it starting with him coming down in Trump Tower to announce his candidacy and talking shit about Mexicans.

Lots of Democrats went along with Weyrich, we have seen it over the decades with the Democratic Party doing a piss poor job of “Get Out To Vote” to its electorate. Clinton, Obama and Biden really didn’t run good campaigns, they won cuz folks got fed up with the GOP.

And as we see with Harris, they ain’t fed up with the GOP and put them back in power.

Long story short, there are other things over the decades that helped Trump win. In the past four years the Democrats did nothing to shut him down with the Justice Department and allowed him to run circles around them cuz they didn’t want to make Republicans mad.

In the end, like some have pointed out, folks are gonna learn the hard way starting next year.

We will watch and see…
 

DJCandle

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Bernie's not right and he never will be.

The problem with Bernie Sanders is that he acts like racism doesn't exist and everything is based off of class. The reason white working class people, and when Bernie Sanders talks working class he specifically means white working class people, left the Democratic party is because the Democratic party is the party of civil rights. You can't have a Democratic party whose base is black voters while at the same time appealing to White Working Class People because they dislike the idea of black people having civil rights and being seen as equal to them.

That's why I get so tired of Bernie Sanders because he has such a simplistic View and to be honest his ass is just as racist as a lot of other white people just no one thinks he is.
We were referring to the Hispanic’s who just bit their nose to spite their face. And for them, it was 10000% about class, not race.

They do not view the world through an American racial lens nor suffer the micro aggressions we do, particularly the Mestizos. Not viewing the world through racially tinted glasses is a DIFFICULT stance for Americans to understand. It’s now how we’re built.
 

easy_b

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@easy_b

This is what I'm talking about

Democrats did not address this part.

When something happens for the first time in a 100 years?

It is time for self reflection and analysis

There is nothing the Democrats to do to make them people vote. Texas people are full of shit for the most part. When something happens, they always get done dirty and yet they still fall back on the Republicans, even though that state has been controlled by Republicans ever since the 90s.
 

playahaitian

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I stated earlier the fault of the Democratic Party losing this election is due to them.

I stated finger pointing is going around in the party. Blame is being put on Black Men, White Women, Latino Women, LGBT and other issues.

President Obama mentioned after Trump got inaugurated back in 2017 that Trump is not the problem, he is a symptom of the problem.

It’s been pointed out by a number of people in this thread that Misogyny/Racism played a part. That is correct.

But the main issue goes back to the 1980s when President Reagan (R) was in office and he kicked in “Reaganomics”.

The Democratic Party reluctantly went along with Reagan’s Neoliberalism creating the “Blue Dog Democrats”. These were Democrats who were Moderate with some Conservative views.

Massive cuts to Education and the Social Safety Net (Anybody remember “The Black Teenage Welfare Queen”?).

NAFTA was created during the Reagan/Bush administrations and signed into law by President Clinton (D). This trade deal immediately kicked in the exportation of American Factory jobs, destroying the unions and diminishing the Middle Class. Over the decades we started seeing more adults working in the service sector (Fast Food and Retail) doing jobs traditionally held by high school/college kids.

The Drug War was applified by Reagan and kicked into full gear by Clinton with the Crime Bill, creating the Private Prison Industrial Complex and turning police into a paramilitary style organization with surplus military gear.

Democrats (including Biden who was a Senator during all that and supported it) went along with them sucking up to the GOP.

The GOP has been playing the long game since the 1970s. They realized with all the social change of the 1960s (Civil Rights Bill, Voting Rights Act and later Roe V. Wade and creation of the Birth Control Pill), they were a dying a party and sat down and played the long game.

The GOP knew back in the 1970s the White Population was diminishing and would be a minority at some point in the 21st Century. President Nixon (R) kicked in the “Southern Strategy” by playing on White peoples fear of race and that non-whites are rising up and will get revenge/retribution on the White Population (sound familiar?)

Someone posted earlier about Lee Atwater. He is the mofo who was part of the Southern Strategy.

Another mofo was Paul Weyrich, co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, the below video explains itself…



Trump didn’t follow this and just came right out and said it starting with him coming down in Trump Tower to announce his candidacy and talking shit about Mexicans.

Lots of Democrats went along with Weyrich, we have seen it over the decades with the Democratic Party doing a piss poor job of “Get Out To Vote” to its electorate. Clinton, Obama and Biden really didn’t run good campaigns, they won cuz folks got fed up with the GOP.

And as we see with Harris, they ain’t fed up with the GOP and put them back in power.

Long story short, there are other things over the decades that helped Trump win. In the past four years the Democrats did nothing to shut him down with the Justice Department and allowed him to run circles around them cuz they didn’t want to make Republicans mad.

In the end, like some have pointed out, folks are gonna learn the hard way starting next year.

We will watch and see…


DNC needs to give you a 2 year guaranteed consultant position starting at 500k
 

T_Holmes

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So many in here are falling for the Okie doke.

White working class voters will never come over to the Democratic party as long as the Democratic party also appeals to Black voters. White Working Class People view Black people as rivals and they do not want Black people to have any success. They view Black success as something that's taking away from their success.

Also one more thing, a lot of these white dudes who are in unions they're about to get a huge wake up call. Because I know they voted for Trump and nobody is as anti-union As Trump and his crew of people.
Okay, real talk, that's a real problem. Has been for a long time. That's why every time we find our own success, they try to take it from us. Even though they are the ones that forced us to do it.
 

playahaitian

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There is nothing the Democrats to do to make them people vote. Texas people are full of shit for the most part. When something happens, they always get done dirty and yet they still fall back on the Republicans, even though that state has been controlled by Republicans ever since the 90s.

Bro I just told you they haven't voted Republican there in a HUNDRED YEARS.

TILL NOW!

you don't find that a little odd?
 

easy_b

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Do you know what these motherfuckers are going to get destroyed because they are so stupid….a part of this is racism too

 

easy_b

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Latinos walking around shook.

Like they got exposed and all their secrets are out

This was never a secret.

but having your recipes shown to world is type different
Some Latinos understand what just happened what trouble they in those the ones that you are talking about. Black people, especially black women near the assignment. Everybody else did not know it.
 

Soul On Ice

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And Trump ain't fixing any of that shit. Motherfuckers voting on the price of some eggs. WTF people think they will cost when all the cheap labor is deported?
If the regular American wants a higher wage, don't they expect the price of goods to also increase?

Obese ass Mid-westerners can't walk around the block worrying about the one transgender per city in sports. Their fat ass kids ain't hooping anyway :lol:

I don't like dicks in women's locker rooms either, but I sure as hell don't want a man who has had raped multiple women, beat his wives, making that decision.
Cry harder champ

:itsawrap:
 

kidmegaii

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Dems need to be the new "Republican" (Classic) party.

Today's Republican party is the MAGA Party.

Dems need to shed their own MAGA counterparts, known as the Progressives/Ultra Left.

If you weren't so concerned about trannies and bussy you would've noticed that's exactly what they've been doing.
 
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