While Texans are paying high ass Electric Bills.....

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Texas paid bitcoin miner Riot $31.7 million to shut down during heat wave in August​


  • Bitcoin miner Riot Platforms raked in $31.7 million in energy credits from Texas power grid operator ERCOT in August.
  • During a record-breaking heat wave in the state, Riot voluntarily curtailed its energy consumption to take advantage of credits available by limiting use.
  • Riot is benefiting from an alternative source of income at a time when losses are mounting.
During the crypto boom of 2021, Riot Platforms was raking in cash from bitcoin mining. Now the company is losing so much money that it's counting on energy credits from selling power back to the Texas grid to keep its costs under control.

Riot said on Wednesday that it earned $31.7 million in energy credits last month from Texas power grid operator ERCOT. The company generated the credits by voluntarily curtailing its energy consumption during a record-breaking heatwave.

The total value of the credits dwarfed the 333 bitcoin the company mined in August, worth about $8.9 million dollars as of the end of the month.

"August was a landmark month for Riot in showcasing the benefits of our unique power strategy," said Jason Les, CEO of Riot, in the company's press release. "The effects of these credits significantly lower Riot's cost to mine Bitcoin and are a key element in making Riot one of the lowest cost producers of bitcoin in the industry."

It's a dramatic strategy shift for Riot, whose revenue soared almost 8,000% in 2021 from booming demand for bitcoin. The crypto market reversed in 2022, leading to a net loss of over $500 million for the year. In the latest quarter, the company lost $27.7 million.

Bitcoin's recovery this year from 2022's lows has boosted Riot's stock, which is up about 230% so far in 2023, closing Wednesday at $11.24. But it's still way down from its 2021 peak of $77.90.

Bitcoin miners broadly have struggled amid low trading volume, according to an analyst note from JPMorgan Chase on Sept. 1. The firm found that the market cap of the 14 U.S.-listed bitcoin miners it tracked fell 21% in August to $9.7 billion. Riot was the worst-performing stock in that list, falling 39% for the month.

Ballooning energy prices have also helped to drag down profits for the sector, so companies have turned to alternative sources of income.

Paying miners to power down​

The Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, has a relatively simple and mutually beneficial relationship with bitcoin miners. The agency, through established "demand response" programs, pays miners to reduce their power so as not to overstress the grid when air conditioners need to run at full blast. In addition to summer difficulties, ERCOT also failed during the fatal winter storm of early 2021.

Riot's latest credits consist of $24.2 million from energy sold back to the ERCOT grid and $7.4 million in demand response credits.

For years, Riot has been powering down operations at its Rockdale mine, about an hour from Austin, to help ease the burden on the state's grid.

ERCOT has historically struggled with fluctuating energy prices and sporadic service, so it strikes deals with flexible energy buyers like crypto miners. The agency also counts on bitcoin miners to soak up excess power when there's too much supply, keeping prices in check.

Texas has made itself an ally to the bitcoin mining industry through credits, but the financial incentives hit a snag in early 2023. A bill to cut off the mining industry from those credits – SB 1751 – passed the Texas State Senate in April, but ultimately stalled out in a House committee.

Instead, state lawmakers passed two mining-friendly bills expanding incentives and cutting red tape for the industry. Those went into effect on Sept. 1.

The economic equation revolves around how much money the miners are losing by not being up and running. If the grid operators pay the miners a penny more than they would have made from mining in any given hour, then they'll gladly power down.

"All you have to do is pay the miners slightly more than what they would have made mining for bitcoin that hour," said bitcoin mining engineer Brandon Arvanaghi, who now runs Meow, a company that enables corporate treasury participation in crypto markets. Arvanaghi calls the setup a "a win-win."

Marathon's Fred Thiel previously told CNBC that from his experience, the companies get curtailment requests less than 3% of the time in the course of a year, which he estimates comes to about five to ten hours a month. Even bitcoin miners that haven't cut a deal with ERCOT sometimes choose to power down at times of peak consumption when prices shoot higher.

Unlike the rest of the continental U.S. that belongs to one of two interconnected grids, 90% of Texas runs on ERCOT, a deregulated and independent network of energy providers that's not tethered to any other grid in the U.S.

While competition in the market often drives down the price of power as providers compete on cost to capture customers, it also means that there's less of a safety net baked into the grid. Adding a "controllable load resource" like bitcoin miners to the grid acts as a sort of life insurance policy, or a hedge against disaster.
 

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my light bill be pushin close to $500 a month.....
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Bury1

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With the solar panels (38 total) we averaged about $180-200 the last few months. I guess it's not as bad as it could be without solar. Especially considering we have 3 AC's (8 ton's) running 24/7 and almost everything in our home is electric (furnace is only gas appliance). It's still our highest utility by far when compared to the rest.
 

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Air conditioning makes you heat intolerant after awhile. When I switched up and started working in hot ass environments; I barely turn on my air conditioner now. My electric bills are almost nothing.

When I started out, I would sweat like a pig.

You have to be careful with air conditioners, it might be the reason some people die during a heat wave. I want some heat to be desensitized, but for an extreme event that last a few days, I might hit the air conditioner.
 
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meilmarc

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my light bill be pushin close to $500 a month.....

My bill average has almost tripled since the freeze. Highest bill since was $750.

Mine has been $450 the last two months.
But the crib is a crisp 68 degrees.
:thumbsup:

Damn i have nothing to complain about. My highest bill this summer was $194, my home is 2500 square feet, but I have double paned windows and a high efficiency hvac unit. Last summer my highest bill was 135, summer of 2021 it was $92. Im still under contract and paying 9.2 cents a killowatt but these energy companies playing games because everyone is complaining of high bills.
 

ugk

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With the solar panels (38 total) we averaged about $180-200 the last few months. I guess it's not as bad as it could be without solar. Especially considering we have 3 AC's (8 ton's) running 24/7 and almost everything in our home is electric (furnace is only gas appliance). It's still our highest utility by far when compared to the rest.

How much did your 38 panel setup cost?
 

Coldchi

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Damn i have nothing to complain about. My highest bill this summer was $194, my home is 2500 square feet, but I have double paned windows and a high efficiency hvac unit. Last summer my highest bill was 135, summer of 2021 it was $92. Im still under contract and paying 9.2 cents a killowatt but these energy companies playing games because everyone is complaining of high bills.
it could be substantially lower if the suburb of Dallas that I stay in was deregulated.
I live in the only city in Dallas County that is not deregulated.......so i can't use any other utility provider other than what the city provides.
 

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Serious question: One thing that always seemed strange to me is when I hear people talking about a light bill. I've lived in Md. my whole life and it's just been an electric bill. For those that have a light bill, do you have a separate bill just for light, or are you using "light" to mean an electric bill?
 

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Serious question: One thing that always seemed strange to me is when I hear people talking about a light bill. I've lived in Md. my whole life and it's just been an electric bill. For those that have a light bill, do you have a separate bill just for light, or are you using "light" to mean an electric bill?
Light bill means electric bill.
 

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I've lived in Suitland, MD. I've lived in Lafayette, Baton Rouge, Kenner and Metairie, LA. I've lived in Jackson and Madison, MS. Houston, Texas is the first place I've lived where there was like 20 electric companies to select from where I was getting my electricity from. Is this supposed to be some cost saving foolishness?
 

Hey Julian!

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my light bill be pushin close to $500 a month.....
$300 a month right now in San Antonio 2300sq ft 2-stories. I’m not tripping on too much, it been pretty consistent for last 3 years, I been in this house. Now, my auto insurance jumping up $75 a month I got problems with…
 

D24OHA

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Serious question: One thing that always seemed strange to me is when I hear people talking about a light bill. I've lived in Md. my whole life and it's just been an electric bill. For those that have a light bill, do you have a separate bill just for light, or are you using "light" to mean an electric bill?
Mfkr you already know!!

Hahaha
 

Hey Julian!

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I've lived in Suitland, MD. I've lived in Lafayette, Baton Rouge, Kenner and Metairie, LA. I've lived in Jackson and Madison, MS. Houston, Texas is the first place I've lived where there was like 20 electric companies to select from where I was getting my electricity from. Is this supposed to be some cost saving foolishness?
That shit just be having you chase a deal every couples month to a year. We don’t have to deal with that in San Antonio because its city run and they do well to keep the costs consistent. When I was living up in Wichita Falls for a few years, I used a few different companies the first year until I realize the prices were pretty much the same so I just found the best long term deal and stick with the same company for the last two years.
 

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Yes those are some crazy bills but I understand you run the air like us people up north run the heat in the winter but $500 is high,mines get no more than 400 and if it does I'm going down there to talk to someone.
 

Coldchi

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Yes those are some crazy bills but I understand you run the air like us people up north run the heat in the winter but $500 is high,mines get no more than 400 and if it does I'm going down there to talk to someone.
my light bill is lower during the winter...........i guess because i dont use the central heat that much and use the fireplace and space heaters more.
its normally around $200+ in the winter....
 

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Air conditioning makes you heat intolerant after awhile. When I switched up and started working in hot ass environments; I barely turn on my air conditioner now. My electric bills are almost nothing.

When I started out, I would sweat like a pig.

You have to be careful with air conditioners, it might be the reason some people die during a heat wave. I want some heat to be desensitized, but for an extreme event that last a few days, I might hit the air conditioner.
The only thing you've said that makes sense in years.
 

meilmarc

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my light bill is lower during the winter...........i guess because i dont use the central heat that much and use the fireplace and space heaters more.
its normally around $200+ in the winter....
My light bills in the winter and spring range from 50 to 70. My gas bill goes up since my heat runs through the gas furnace but it rarely runs because it doesn't get cold enough in Houston to run the heat consistently. Normal gas bill is 15 to 20. Winter is 40 to 60.
 

Darth Furious

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With the solar panels (38 total) we averaged about $180-200 the last few months. I guess it's not as bad as it could be without solar. Especially considering we have 3 AC's (8 ton's) running 24/7 and almost everything in our home is electric (furnace is only gas appliance). It's still our highest utility by far when compared to the rest.

How much did your 38 panel setup cost?

This.

$40k for 350 watt panels in 2018 after incentives. With current government programs there might better deals out there today.


Thank you.
Mine was -$17.00 last month. Thanks to solar


Quick question: Does getting solar panels have anything to do with your insurance for the house?

We had a two car garage addition added on to the house but have no power in that bitch. Opening and closing garage doors by hand is a bitch. Lol. For now I got extension cords running from an old outlet for the lights BUT I want to get power in there and put the panels on the new garage.

This thread makes me think the move to solar is worth it BUT will our insurance drop us.


oNE
 

godofwine

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This.




Thank you.



Quick question: Does getting solar panels have anything to do with your insurance for the house?

We had a two car garage addition added on to the house but have no power in that bitch. Opening and closing garage doors by hand is a bitch. Lol. For now I got extension cords running from an old outlet for the lights BUT I want to get power in there and put the panels on the new garage.

This thread makes me think the move to solar is worth it BUT will our insurance drop us.


oNE
I don't think it affects my insurance. I opened and closed my door by hand until I realized all I needed to do was add some fucking lubrication spray during the winter, and that was a pain in the ass

I would have to see about getting at least minor electricity put in that bitch for at least opening and closing up the door, God damn.

I've told this story before on how I got the solar panels. I asked for eight, they charged me for eight but they sent me 16 panels, so I paid less than I should have
 

COINTELPRO

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fuck yo solar panels as an energy saver, a record label, and as a muthafuckin crew....

The return on investment is like five years on them joints. If solar power use increases at the home, the amount of high voltage distribution decreases from centralized power stations. Power companies should be cutting a check like they are doing bitcoin miners.

Especially after these nuclear accidents, I would be putting one up in a second if one was near by.
 

Retarded_1

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After reading some of the bills listed here, I should feel lucky..
My bill went from 160 to 385 in one month..But..
Me and wife are never home..except after 7pm Monday-Friday and the Weekend..
A/C stays at 76 during the day and switches to 73 at 6pm
 
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