"WW C"- COVID-19, GLOBAL CASES SURPASS 676 MILLION...CASES 676,609,955 DEATHS 6,881,955 US CASES 103,804,263 US DEATHS 1,123,836 8:30pm 1/28/24

Mixd

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To get a does this high in a reasonable manner, you'd have to get the Vitamin C powder. Normally pills have max 1000 mg/1g.
You can take 1-2 grams an hour thru the day.
I've been doing this whenever I've gotten a cold. By the next day symptoms clear up. Been doing it for years.

But from what others were saying, to cure this, need to take the Vit C by IV at this high a dose to cure it.
 

zod16

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You can take 1-2 grams an hour thru the day.
I've been doing this whenever I've gotten a cold. By the next day symptoms clear up. Been doing it for years.

There isn't a way to prevent the common cold. The company that advertised that it could by macrodosing vitamin c got sued and lost because there isn't a way to cure the common cold. :lol:

A superior court judge preliminarily approved a $6.45 million settlement to a class-action lawsuit filed against Alacer Corp. for allegedly deceptively marketing the supplement Emergen-C. The complaint, which was originally filed earlier in the year, alleges that the company misleadingly represents that the supplement will provide health benefits – including reducing the risk of or preventing colds and flu – without scientific evidence to support such claims.
 

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The crazy story of Purell and the coronavirus



The drag of the coronavirus on the global economy is massive. While the real tragedy is lives lost, the economic effect is a hugely significant secondary consideration. Businesses around the world are feeling serious pain. A recession might be in the offing.

And yet some companies are benefiting from the crisis. Not because they necessarily sought to but because they happen to have the right product or service. Zoom Video which provides conferencing that obviates the need for in-person meetings, is one. Clorox, which of course produces bleach, 409 and other cleaners, has seen its stock rise 13% year-to-date (while the market is down over 9%), is another.

And then there’s Purell, maker of the famous hand sanitizer—which must be selling like crazy, right? That’s probably the case as it’s sold out all over the place, yet we don’t really know because Purell is owned by a private company, GOJO Industries.

So what’s up with Purell and GOJO? We did some digging around and found out.

First, while the Akron, Ohio-based company says it’s ramping up production, it declined to tell us by how much, or how much Purell it sold last year. In fact GOJO wouldn’t answer any of our questions and instead sent us a Q and A prepared for media that it said we could attribute to GOJO spokesperson Samantha Williams. It reads: “...orders of the company’s products have increased very significantly. We stepped up production in January and are continuing to bring additional capacity online to meet this heightened demand should it continue...We have added shifts and have team members working overtime.”

I bet they are.

The communiqué also notes that GOJO employs about 2,500 people and manufactures Purell products at facilities in Wooster and Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, and France. (You have to wonder if these employees would be exempt from a work-from-home order.)

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Next question, how effective is Purell against the coronavirus?

The company states that “Purell...kills 99.99% of most common germs that can make you sick.” Sounds impressive, but note the phrase, “most common germs.” Does that include COVID-19? No one really knows.

In fact, on January 17, just as the coronavirus was becoming a global news story, the FDA sent Purell a letter warning the company about statements in its FAQ sections of websites which suggested “that PURELL® Healthcare Advanced Hand Sanitizers are intended for reducing or preventing disease from the Ebola virus, norovirus, and influenza.” The FDA noted it had no evidence that Purell is effective against those diseases.

The FDA stated: “...we are not aware of evidence demonstrating that the PURELL® Healthcare Advanced Hand Sanitizer products as formulated and labeled are generally recognized by qualified experts as safe and effective for use under the conditions suggested, recommended, or prescribed in their labeling.”

Williams told FOX Business at the time the company immediately took action after receiving the letter and "have begun updating relevant website and other digital content as directed by the FDA."

So does Purell do anything to prevent COVID-19? The active ingredient of Purell is really just 70% ethanol or ethyl alcohol. Experts generally agree that a solution containing in excess of 60% alcohol can be effective in some instances, like for wiping down a tray table on an airplane, and maybe as a hand sanitizer.

Actually, that distinction—surfaces versus hands—falls under the auspices of the EPA, in terms of the former, and the FDA for the latter, as the GOJO Q and A reflects. Check this out: “...under the EPA’s Emerging Pathogen guidance, our PURELL® Surface Spray can be used to kill COVID-19 on hard, non-porous surfaces when used in accordance with the directions and a 1-minute contact time.” But it goes on to say, “The FDA, which regulates hand sanitizer, and the EPA, which regulates surface disinfectants, have different rules. The EPA permits manufacturers to answer questions about efficacy against viruses.”

Tanya Crum, an assistant professor of biology at Benedictine University in Lisle, Illinois says that soap and water is always best, but that “if you’re somewhere where soap and water is not available, having hand sanitizer is great. I wouldn’t use it first, I would use it just in case or second.” Crum also says that “There’s varying effectiveness in terms of hand sanitizer killing viruses,” but that’s because COVID-19 is a virus with a capsid protein or what’s called a coat, it may be easier to kill with a hand sanitizer. Potentially good news there for Purell.

Purell’s humble beginnings
GOJO has an all-American backstory. The company was founded in 1946 by Goldie and Jerry Lippman (and is still controlled and run in part by family members). Goldie and Jerry worked in tire and aircraft factories in Ohio during World War II. They found they had a hard time washing tar and other greasy stuff off their hands after work, and so the couple worked with a chemist at Kent State to develop a hand cleaner. (The first product was “GoGo, Goldie's nickname, but another company had already used the name, so the founders came up with GOJO, with the "G" standing for Goldie and the "J" standing for Jerry,” according to company history.)

Later Jerry came up with the first-ever portion-control dispenser, for which he was granted a patent in 1952. The company proudly reports: “Every soap dispenser on the wall today, anywhere in the world, is a descendant of that first dispenser Jerry invented!” GOJO didn’t create Purell until 1988, but it has become the company's flagship product. Pfizer distributed Purell for a time in the 2000s, a business that was bought by Johnson & Johnson, but GOJO reacquired Purell from J&J in 2010. Smart move. Along the way somebody put Purell dispensers in nearly every elevator bank in nearly every office building in America.


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People certainly are crazy for Purell now. Stores are sold out. You can’t buy it online—well you can but for ridiculous prices. This week, U.S. Senator Edward Markey (D-Mass) sent a letter to Amazon demanding it take action to stop third-party sellers from price gouging Purell. Reuters reports that “a box of small Purell bottles that usually sells for $10 was listed online for $400, he said. One third-party seller listed a bottle for $600 on Wednesday afternoon. However, the Amazon brand of hand sanitizer was listed for $8.25 for a large bottle.”

GOJO disavows the gouging, saying (twice!) in its Q and A: “...we feel strongly that there is no place for price-gouging, especially during times of elevated public health concern.” Reuters reports that “Amazon called the price-gougers ‘bad actors.’ “There is no place for price gouging on Amazon,” a spokesman said in a statement. “We continue to actively monitor our store and remove offers that violate our policies.”

For most of us the coronavirus could turn out to be a nightmare. For Purell—not that the company wants it and not that its product is any sort of panacea—COVID-19 is already a dream come true.


 

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There isn't a way to prevent the common cold. The company that advertised that it could by macrodosing vitamin c got sued and lost because there isn't a way to cure the common cold. :lol:

A superior court judge preliminarily approved a $6.45 million settlement to a class-action lawsuit filed against Alacer Corp. for allegedly deceptively marketing the supplement Emergen-C. The complaint, which was originally filed earlier in the year, alleges that the company misleadingly represents that the supplement will provide health benefits – including reducing the risk of or preventing colds and flu – without scientific evidence to support such claims.
Believe what you want.
Obviously a company selling a product can't make claims like that without exposing themselves to a suit.

I've been doing Vit C, Oregano and iron salts when anyone in my house have felt some type of cough, sore throat, sinus issues with fever. For years. We do not believe in no flu shot, never done it. That goes with my mom's house as well, who is a retired RN.

You believe cause there was a suit to one company for claims makes Vit C not effective on boosting your immune system?

I take 4 grams of Vit C daily every day. If I come down with something, I just do more. Overall I just believe in prevention.

But, hey, whatever floats your boat.
 

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Believe what you want.

You believe cause there was a suit to one company for claims makes Vit C not effective on boosting your immune system?

Yes. :smh: Let me guess, carrots improve your vision too right? (they don't). Only one company was dumb enough to market a vitamin c tablet as a cure to the common cold and flu when no physician on the planet would say that makes any damn sense. Correlation has never been causation which is why they paid out damn near 7mm for that dumb shit. :smh:We are facing a global pandemic and you are really suggesting that the thousands of physicians working to stop this around the world have not considered macrodosing vitamin c as the "silver bullet" ? What about the billions to be made by anyone who could release a "vitamin c" cure on Monday. If the "dr" in your video had this shit figured out he damn well wouldn't be on fucking YouTube revealing the "answers". :lol::smh: This is the best example of Dunning–Kruger effect I have seen yet...
 
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Idk that link says it was a poorly organized study but it was peer reviewed
I'm not taking any chances
You've never felt pain till you have one
Can't remember where I've heard it before cause I've watched many documentaries in the past. Could of been in the Truth About Cancer series but saw that Vit C and stones was a misconception.

Here's another article. Not telling you chance it cause I was an EMT and dealt with many patients with stones, so I feel for you, but somehow C got linked to stones and that's never been proven.

 

Mixd

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Yes. :smh: Let me guess, carrots improve your vision too right? (they don't). Only one company was dumb enough to market a vitamin c tablet as a cure to the common cold and flu when no physician on the planet would say that makes any damn sense. Correlation is not never causation which is why they paid out damn near 7mm for that dumb shit. :smh:We are facing a global pandemic and you are really suggesting that the thousands of physicians working to stop this around the world have not considered vitamin c as the "silver bullet" ? What about the billions to be made by anyone who could release a "vitamin c" cure on Monday. If the "dr" in your video had this shit figured out he damn well wouldn't be on fucking YouTube revealing the "answers". :lol::smh: This is the best example of Dunning–Kruger effect I have seen yet...
Its all good, believe what you want, I'll continue to follow what I've been doing for my fam and what's been working for me and mine. I am just posting suggestions. So as I said, whatever floats your boat.
 

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Its all good, believe what you want, I'll continue to follow what I've been doing for my fam and what's been working for me and mine. I am just posting suggestions. So as I said, whatever floats your boat.

This isn't my "idea" but scientific fact. This has been studied to death and the reason that emergen-c was sued and had to pay out millions:


There are literally thousands of studies that reach the same conclusion. If there was a cheap and easy way to prevent the common cold or flu, we wouldn't have tamiflu or vaccinations and Roche wouldn't have a 240B market cap. :smh:
 

Mixd

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This isn't my "idea" but scientific fact. This has been studied to death and the reason that emergen-c was sued and had to pay out millions:


There are literally thousands of studies that reach the same conclusion. If there was a cheap and easy way to prevent the common cold or flu, we wouldn't have tamiflu or vaccinations and Roche wouldn't have a 240B market cap. :smh:
They were sued for making a claim.
Red Bull was sued for the saying Red Bull gives you wings.

You sound foolish to discredit something that's natural, homeopathic that I'm telling you works for mine, without trying it for yourself because a doctor doesn't prescribe it? I'm sorry, I just don't follow that religion and I don't follow everything a doc tells me as prevention when doctors are taught nothing about nutrition and everything about pushing pills for big pharm.

Their sole purpose is to make money for drug companies and keep the masses reliant on drugs. Never curing anything. When in most cases, nutrition can prevent a lot.
 

zod16

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They were sued for making a claim.
Red Bull was sued for the saying Red Bull gives you wings.

You sound foolish to discredit something that's natural, homeopathic that I'm telling you works for mine, without trying it for yourself because a doctor doesn't prescribe it? I'm sorry, I just don't follow that religion and I don't follow everything a doc tells me as prevention when doctors are taught nothing about nutrition and everything about pushing pills for big pharm.

Their sole purpose is to make money for drug companies and keep the masses reliant on drugs. Never curing anything. When in most cases, nutrition can prevent a lot.

:smh: Dunning–Kruger! You, a non-physician, has the cure to the common cold/flu/covid-19 but doctors who are "taught nothing about nutrition and everything about pushing pills for big pharm" haven't figured it out when the cure to any of the the three would be worth billions? :smh::lol:
 

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:smh: Dunning–Kruger! You, a non-physician, has the cure to the common cold/flu/covid-19 but doctors who are "taught nothing about nutrition and everything about pushing pills for big pharm" haven't figured it out when the cure to any of the the three would be worth billions? :smh::lol:
Now you're just trolling, it's all good, but someone may take away from some of this and help themselves. I never claimed to cure anything with vitamin C, but you can subside symptoms and treat what's going on at the moment. Don't twist what was stated.

So here are a few doctors who have used Vitamin C to treat ailments over decades in history:





Try to discern evidence as fact from fiction.
 

Capo

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The common cold

In the 1970s Linus Pauling suggested that vitamin C could successfully treat and/or prevent the common cold [81]. Results of subsequent controlled studies have been inconsistent, resulting in confusion and controversy, although public interest in the subject remains high [82,83].

A 2007 Cochrane review examined placebo-controlled trials involving the use of at least 200 mg/day vitamin C taken either continuously as a prophylactic treatment or after the onset of cold symptoms [83]. Prophylactic use of vitamin C did not significantly reduce the risk of developing a cold in the general population. However, in trials involving marathon runners, skiers, and soldiers exposed to extreme physical exercise and/or cold environments, prophylactic use of vitamin C in doses ranging from 250 mg/day to 1 g/day reduced cold incidence by 50%. In the general population, use of prophylactic vitamin C modestly reduced cold duration by 8% in adults and 14% in children. When taken after the onset of cold symptoms, vitamin C did not affect cold duration or symptom severity.

Overall, the evidence to date suggests that regular intakes of vitamin C at doses of at least 200 mg/day do not reduce the incidence of the common cold in the general population, but such intakes might be helpful in people exposed to extreme physical exercise or cold environments and those with marginal vitamin C status, such as the elderly and chronic smokers [83-85]. The use of vitamin C supplements might shorten the duration of the common cold and ameliorate symptom severity in the general population [82,85], possibly due to the anti-histamine effect of high-dose vitamin C [86]. However, taking vitamin C after the onset of cold symptoms does not appear to be beneficial [83].

 

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The common cold

In the 1970s Linus Pauling suggested that vitamin C could successfully treat and/or prevent the common cold [81]. Results of subsequent controlled studies have been inconsistent, resulting in confusion and controversy, although public interest in the subject remains high [82,83].

A 2007 Cochrane review examined placebo-controlled trials involving the use of at least 200 mg/day vitamin C taken either continuously as a prophylactic treatment or after the onset of cold symptoms [83]. Prophylactic use of vitamin C did not significantly reduce the risk of developing a cold in the general population. However, in trials involving marathon runners, skiers, and soldiers exposed to extreme physical exercise and/or cold environments, prophylactic use of vitamin C in doses ranging from 250 mg/day to 1 g/day reduced cold incidence by 50%. In the general population, use of prophylactic vitamin C modestly reduced cold duration by 8% in adults and 14% in children. When taken after the onset of cold symptoms, vitamin C did not affect cold duration or symptom severity.

Overall, the evidence to date suggests that regular intakes of vitamin C at doses of at least 200 mg/day do not reduce the incidence of the common cold in the general population, but such intakes might be helpful in people exposed to extreme physical exercise or cold environments and those with marginal vitamin C status, such as the elderly and chronic smokers [83-85]. The use of vitamin C supplements might shorten the duration of the common cold and ameliorate symptom severity in the general population [82,85], possibly due to the anti-histamine effect of high-dose vitamin C [86]. However, taking vitamin C after the onset of cold symptoms does not appear to be beneficial [83].

200mg?
We discussing 20,000 - 30,000mg intravenously.
200mg of course won't do anything.
 

zod16

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I never claimed to cure anything with vitamin C

You actually did say macrodosing vitamin c prevented the common cold/flu and covid-19 for your family... :smh: Just publish the paper, release your macrodose vitamin c pill and collect your billions...I'm sure there are many waiting for the unique insight you have that none of the physicians and multi-billion dollar pharmcos all around the world have considered. :lol: This is up there with Zuma's "showering" after unprotected sex to prevent the spread of hiv....
 

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You are giving vitamin c IV in your house? I thought y'all were talking about stuff we can do to protect ourselves?

He/She is making up nonsense since they got called out for bullshit. A megadose of vitamin c would be 2,000 mg and they are talking about 30,000mg :smh: no physician would do this dumb shit.
 

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From the same study:
Oral vitamin C produces tissue and plasma concentrations that the body tightly controls. Approximately 70%–90% of vitamin C is absorbed at moderate intakes of 30–180 mg/day. However, at doses above 1 g/day, absorption falls to less than 50% and absorbed, unmetabolized ascorbic acid is excreted in the urine [4]. Results from pharmacokinetic studies indicate that oral doses of 1.25 g/day ascorbic acid produce mean peak plasma vitamin C concentrations of 135 micromol/L, which are about two times higher than those produced by consuming 200–300 mg/day ascorbic acid from vitamin C-rich foods [10]. Pharmacokinetic modeling predicts that even doses as high as 3 g ascorbic acid taken every 4 hours would produce peak plasma concentrations of only 220 micromol/L [10].
 

Mixd

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You are giving vitamin c IV in your house? I thought y'all were talking about stuff we can do to protect ourselves?
I take pills orally. The doctor in youtube vid stated the elderly woman was taking high doses at home and some symptoms sudsided but wasn't til they treated her in the hosp with IV that she was cured.

I'll do what I can at home to prevent symptoms worsening until it reaches a point that I'll seek a hospital/doctor for myself or fam. But I'm not gonna sit and blame others for my own health. I prefer to do things proactively.
 

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He/She is making up nonsense since they got called out for bullshit. A megadose of vitamin c would be 2,000 mg and they are talking about 30,000mg :smh: no physician would do this dumb shit.
Clown all you want but you even took the time to read anything of the articles I posted as proof by doctors who treated things as scurvy, pneumonia and the other host of diseases. Or you want to continue to joke about something serious?
 

zod16

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Clown all you want but you even took the time to read anything of the articles I posted as proof by doctors who treated things as scurvy, pneumonia and the other host of diseases. Or you want to continue to joke about something serious?

Scurvy is literally caused by vitamin c deficiency so of course vitamin c will cure it. You said macrodosing vitamin c would prevent the common cold, flu and covid-19 which is complete bullshit. Now that I know how you think, what are your feelings on the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide?
 

Mixd

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Scurvy is literally caused by vitamin c deficiency so of course vitamin c will cure it. You said macrodosing vitamin c would prevent the common cold, flu and covid-19 which is complete bullshit. Now that I know how you think, what are your feelings on the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide?
I don't log on here to debate my beliefs or clown others for theirs. I just don't have the mental energy for it.

Hope you fare well through all this.
Peace...
 

zod16

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I don't log on here to debate my beliefs or clown others for theirs. I just don't have the mental energy for it.

Hope you fare well through all this.
Peace...

This is science. It doesn't give a fuck about your mental energy or beliefs. Too many of Us suffer and die unnecessarily because of quakery like the shit you are posting and it has to stop. :smh: There is no way to prevent the common cold. You can significantly reduce the impact of the flu with a flu shot and there is no way to prevent covid-19 other than hand washing and common fucking sense.:smh: Many of the people on this board have parents/grandparents/relatives who are high risk for covid-19 and you are helping to spread bullshit pseudo-science and half-truths that will lead to complacency in at risk demographics. It is ok to say to say "I don't know" sometimes...damn:smh:
 

Mixd

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This is science. It doesn't give a fuck about your mental energy or beliefs. Too many of Us suffer and die unnecessarily because of quakery like the shit you are posting and it has to stop. :smh: There is no way to prevent the common cold. You can significantly reduce the impact of the flu with a flu shot and there is no way to prevent covid-19 other than hand washing and common fucking sense.:smh: Many of the people on this board have parents/grandparents/relatives who are high risk for covid-19 and you are helping to spread bullshit pseudo-science and half-truths that will lead to complacency in at risk demographics. It is ok to say to say "I don't know" sometimes...damn:smh:
Quote where I have stated any of this in my posts.
I said I treat my symptoms at the onset. Never stated I cured anything. You are the one skewing words.

You wanted to read something different? I never stated I cured anything. I've said prevention is better than cure. If I feel a symptom coming on, I OD on Vit C. Symptoms are gone in 1-2 days typically. I've done that with with myself, wife and kids for years. You think it's quackery, cool. You do what works for you.
 

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Macrodosing of vitamin c is going to give you very expensive piss and that is it. I think if the solution was to give everyone a vitamin c IV, Italy and China would be doing that instead of mass quarantines and hospitalizations. :smh:
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China Treating Coronavirus COVID-19 with Intravenous Vitamin C
Report from China: Three Intravenous Vitamin C Research Studies Approved for Treating COVID-19

3 March 2020

Intravenous vitamin C is already being employed in China against COVID-19 coronavirus. I am receiving regular updates because I am part of the Medical and Scientific Advisory Board to the International Intravenous Vitamin C China Epidemic Medical Support Team. Its director is Richard Z. Cheng, MD, PhD; associate director is Hong Zhang, PhD.

Among other team members are Qi Chen, PhD (Associate Professor, Kansas University Medical School); Jeanne Drisko, MD (Professor, University of Kansas Medical School);

Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD; and Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD. (Professor, Kyorin University, Tokyo). To read the treatment protocol information in English: click this

 
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