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Your car is secretly spying on you and driving your insurance rates through the roof: report

Drivers of cars manufactured by General Motors, Ford, Honda and other popular brands say that their insurance rates went up after the companies sent data about their driving behavior to issuers without their knowledge.

Kenn Dahl, 65, is a Seattle-area businessman who told The New York Times that his car insurance costs soared by 21% in 2022 after GM’s OnStar Smart Driver computerized system installed in his Chevy Bolt collected information about the particulars of his driving habits.

Dahl said that his insurance agent told him the price increase was based on data collected by LexisNexis, which compiled a report tracking each and every time he and his wife drove their Chevy Bolt over a six-month period.

According to Dahl, the 258-page report contained information about the start and end times of his trips, distance driven and other data detailing possible instances of speeding, hard braking and sharp accelerations.

The report contained information about one particular trip in June which lasted 18 minutes and spanned 7.33 miles

During that same trip, the LexisNexis report recorded two instances of rapid acceleration and two incidents of hard braking.

The LexisNexis report indicated that the details it had cobbled together were gleaned from the OnStar Smart Driver, the GM-owned subscription service that records driver information such as total miles driven, hard braking incident and other aspects of driver behavior.

According to its web site, OnStar Smart Driver “provides driving insights on how you can become a smarter, safer driver” while enabling users to “earn badges by completing challenges, build on streaks specific to different driving habits and view all your data in an intuitive dashboard.”

“It felt like a betrayal,” Dahl said. “They’re taking information that I didn’t realize was going to be shared and screwing with our insurance.

It’s not just electric vehicle owners who are complaining.

A Cadillac driver based in Palm Beach County, Fla., told the Times that he is considering a lawsuit against GM after he was denied car insurance by seven different companies in December.

He said he is planning to sell his Cadillac and that he will never buy another GM-made car again.

The decision was based on a LexisNexis report which detailed six months of his driving behavior, including numerous instances of hard braking, hard accelerating and speeding.

“I don’t know the definition of hard brake. My passenger’s head isn’t hitting the dash,” the unnamed Cadillac driver, who like Dahl was enrolled in the OnStar Smart Driver subscription service, told the Times.

Same with acceleration. I’m not peeling out. I’m not sure how the car defines that. I don’t feel I’m driving aggressively or dangerously.”

GM, whose portfolio of brands includes Chevy, GMC, Cadillac and Buick, isn’t the only car company that is gathering data through internet connectivity and then providing it to insurance companies.

Subaru, Mitsubishi, Honda, Kia and Hyundai also offer drivers the option of turning on similar features without them being aware that the data is being sold to brokers similar to LexisNexis
 

D24OHA

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Just ordered my LexisNexis report to see what they got.

I worked for an insurance company 10+ yrs ago and remember when I got hired on they sent a copy of their background check, shit was 35 pages. Conversely when I got on at USPS, my background report copy was like 26 pages.

Before I left the insurance company I got access to LexisNexis through them to do investigations.....

Mfkrs had addresses/phone numbers on damn near all close relatives, credit history, property values of their addresses, education / employment history..... there was some other shit I know I'm forgetting...... but I was like :oops:o_O when I first got into it.

But, yeah im curious to see what information they have access to now.
 

Lexx Diamond

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I read about that yesterday. The worst part is that your information is for sale to other companies. Folks are recorded have sex and talking about their most intimate secretes. If I can't turn off the sensors like I can on my android I don't want any of that shit.
 

D24OHA

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I read about that yesterday. The worst part is that your information is for sale to other companies. Folks are recorded have sex and talking about their most intimate secretes. If I can't turn off the sensors like I can on my android I don't want any of that shit.

It wasn't stated in the article I posted, but on a podcast I listened to one customer stated he had "opted out" of that program, only to find out it still collected and sold his data anyway.
 

Lexx Diamond

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It wasn't stated in the article I posted, but on a podcast I listened to one customer stated he had "opted out" of that program, only to find out it still collected and sold his data anyway.

That's some grimy shit. Forty years ago folks were paranoid about their government spying on them. Nowadays it's private companies that spy on the people. Worst part is that your information easily gets into the hands of foreign nationals or anyone who has the money to buy the information.
 
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