Zelensky address Ukraine parliament with his Victory plan….Washington heard it last week and wasn’t impressed

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He stated that the Kursk operation is linked to preparations for the second peace summit.

Ukraine has a victory plan that it will present to the United States, Zelensky said at a press conference.

According to him, the Kursk operation is one component of this plan.

The second component is "Ukraine's strategic position in global security infrastructure."

The third is a "powerful package to compel Russia to end the war through diplomatic means." The fourth is economic.

"I will present this plan first to the US President, as its success depends on him—whether we will get what’s in the plan or not, and whether we will be free to use what’s in the plan or not," Zelensky stated.

The plan is expected to be shown not only to Biden but also to Harris and Trump.

Earlier, Politico reported on a plan involving objectives for long-range strikes on Russian territory, which will be brought to Washington by Yermak and Umerov.
 

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After he caves he will be a rich man until Russia takes him out like they did Prigo.

Shit I don’t think the Russians gonna do it.
Them folks in Ukraine is getting tired of this shit. They been setting fire to the vans of the recruitment officers aka kidnappers.

Over the last few weeks it’s getting more chippy.
 

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Shit I don’t think the Russians gonna do it.
Them folks in Ukraine is getting tired of this shit. They been setting fire to the vans of the recruitment officers aka kidnappers.

Over the last few weeks it’s getting more chippy.
Over 600,000 Ukraine men have died between the ages of 18 - 35 yrs old. They started snatching up men 40 - 50 and sending them to the front line
 

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I guess 2 Mega yachts ,6 multi-million dollar homes in 4 countries , 12 luxury cars and 2 private jets just not enough ?


I think that’s the deal he made,


Y’all want my country to fight y’all war, ok I’ll do it but it’s gonna cost y’all…

If all of the reports were accurate, dude agree to peace two years ago but Boris Johnson arrives in Ukraine said no peace with evil Putin, fight for Ukraine we will support you…

fast forward today, dude probably lost nearly 800k soldiers (local & foreign)
half of his population that left, say they ain’t coming back. He asking Europeans out ties to send, military age males back, they declining his request. Those countries love seeing their economies with new workers.

In the next month Ukraine likely to lose Pokrovsk, one of the most important cities in the Donbas. They were getting whipped in that area so bad, they thought that Kursk invasion would force Russia to move troops. From the Donbas region to protect Kursk. That haven’t happened the Russians is going even harder towards Pokrovsk. Some Ukrainians are like wtf we are we doing?

The Kursk momentum have slowed up greatly and while the Pokrovsk pressure is steady turning up.
Once they capture Pokrovsk, (if they want) the next barrier is the fucking Dnieper River.
The kinda half split Ukraine’s southern region in half.


(If you look at this map… they working in the Donetsk area now. Once Pokrovsk is captured, you look to the west towards Dniper nothing but open land.
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He stated that the Kursk operation is linked to preparations for the second peace summit.

Ukraine has a victory plan that it will present to the United States, Zelensky said at a press conference.

According to him, the Kursk operation is one component of this plan.

The second component is "Ukraine's strategic position in global security infrastructure."

The third is a "powerful package to compel Russia to end the war through diplomatic means." The fourth is economic.

"I will present this plan first to the US President, as its success depends on him—whether we will get what’s in the plan or not, and whether we will be free to use what’s in the plan or not," Zelensky stated.

The plan is expected to be shown not only to Biden but also to Harris and Trump.

Earlier, Politico reported on a plan involving objectives for long-range strikes on Russian territory, which will be brought to Washington by Yermak and Umerov.
spot on.... :popcorn: :popcorn:
 

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I Just laugh when I listen to this Zelensky dude talk…


(Always not enough, more more)
 

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no zelensky dont waste your time Kamala said,

she wont do anything specifically for real Americans..

oh wait, you are a pale face foreigner..

Yea ok get to begging, the democrats will take care of you,

as long as you are not a straight american knigga

YOU GOOD, you fuckin beggin ass midget..

ukraine and isreal

GREATEST WELFARE QUEENS EVER...

BAR NONE...

FUCK THE DEMOCRATS.. NO TO REPARATIONS BUT YES TO UKRAINE, ISREAL

AND BIG PHARMA VACCINE MANDATES..

SO GO ON, JUST GIVE OUR MONEY AWAY LIKE YOU BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST FUCKIN THREE

PLUS YEARS..

hunter crack head biden already got his KICK BACK BAG from ukraine... worst presidency

fuckin EVER.. gatdam crackhead leaving cocaine baggies in the whitehouse..

and we need MORE of that..

NOPE... we dont..

WE NEED A NON LAWYER UP THERE!!!
 

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no zelensky dont waste your time Kamala said,

she wont do anything specifically for real Americans..

oh wait, you are a pale face foreigner..

Yea ok get to begging, the democrats will take care of you,

as long as you are not a straight american knigga

YOU GOOD, you fuckin beggin ass midget..

ukraine and isreal

GREATEST WELFARE QUEENS EVER...

BAR NONE...

FUCK THE DEMOCRATS.. NO TO REPARATIONS BUT YES TO UKRAINE, ISREAL

AND BIG PHARMA VACCINE MANDATES..

SO GO ON, JUST GIVE OUR MONEY AWAY LIKE YOU BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST FUCKIN THREE

PLUS YEARS..

hunter crack head biden already got his KICK BACK BAG from ukraine... worst presidency

fuckin EVER.. gatdam crackhead leaving cocaine baggies in the whitehouse..

and we need MORE of that..

NOPE... we dont..

WE NEED A NON LAWYER UP THERE!!!


Well Israelis spend money to get money
So I’m not sure if they can be label as welfare queens
 

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The two are totally unrelated.

One is slaughtering civilians for land they claim is theirs by some convoluted reasoning.

The other is fighting to repel invaders from his home soil; his own goddamn country.

Ain't a fucking thing similar.
 

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How much money has the United States provided Ukraine?​

Since the war began, the U.S. Congress has voted through five bills that have provided Ukraine with ongoing aid, doing so most recently in April 2024. The total budget authority under these bills—the “headline” figure often cited by news media—is $175 billion. The historic sums are helping a broad set of Ukrainian people and institutions, including refugees, law enforcement, and independent radio broadcasters, though most of the aid has been military-related. Dozens of other countries, including most members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the European Union (EU), are also providing large aid packages to Ukraine.
 

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How much U.S. aid does Israel receive?​

Israel has been the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid since its founding, receiving about $310 billion (adjusted for inflation) in total economic and military assistance. The United States has also provided large foreign aid packages to other Middle Eastern countries, particularly Egypt and Iraq, but Israel stands apart.
 

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Zelensky and Umerov to arrive in US tomorrow to provide Biden administration with list of targets in Russia' - CNN
 

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How much money has the United States provided Ukraine?​

Since the war began, the U.S. Congress has voted through five bills that have provided Ukraine with ongoing aid, doing so most recently in April 2024. The total budget authority under these bills—the “headline” figure often cited by news media—is $175 billion. The historic sums are helping a broad set of Ukrainian people and institutions, including refugees, law enforcement, and independent radio broadcasters, though most of the aid has been military-related. Dozens of other countries, including most members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the European Union (EU), are also providing large aid packages to Ukraine.

How much U.S. aid does Israel receive?​

Israel has been the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign aid since its founding, receiving about $310 billion (adjusted for inflation) in total economic and military assistance. The United States has also provided large foreign aid packages to other Middle Eastern countries, particularly Egypt and Iraq, but Israel stands apart.
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Zelensky to present US with victory plan in September​



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President Volodymyr Zelensky during a press conference in Kyiv on Aug. 27, 2024. (Vitalii Nosach/Global Images Ukraine via Getty Images)




President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Aug. 27 that he would present U.S. President Joe Biden with a plan for victory during a meeting in September.

The president said that the proposal would also be presented to Vice President Kamala Harris and ex-President Donald Trump, the two candidates for the upcoming November presidential election.

Trump has claimed during his presidential campaign that he would end the war within 24 hours if elected, but has declined to provide details of the plan.

Speaking at the Ukraine 2024 Independence forum in Kyiv, Zelensky said that the ongoing Kursk incursion was one of the parts of this plan.

The other items include Ukraine's participation in the global security infrastructure, pressuring Russia to end the war through diplomatic means, and an economic aspect, Zelensky said without revealing any details.

The president said that he keeps bringing up the red lines Ukraine's Western allies have imposed on the use of weapons inside Russian territory.

"They don't want to talk about it, and I keep bringing it up," Zelensky quipped.

"The Olympics are over, but ping pong is still there."

Kyiv has long argued that restrictions on the use of long-range weapons are stifling its war effort, while Western partners believe that allowing Ukraine to hit deep into Russian territory with the weapons they provide could be a cause for escalation.

In May, the U.S. allowed Ukraine to use HIMARS multiple rocket launchers, GMLRS rockets, and artillery against Russian territory near the Ukrainian border.

But the U.S. and U.K. still prohibit Ukraine from using U.S.-made ATACMS missiles and British-made Storm Shadow missiles for strikes deeper inside Russia.

Ukraine has dismissed these arguments and has ramped up pressure to lift the ban in recent weeks following the Kursk incursionon Aug. 6.
 

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Zelenskyy Presses US Military Leaders to Let Ukraine Strike Deeper in Russia​

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RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany — Ukraine needs the ability to strike deep within Russia now, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy told U.S. and allied military leaders Friday as Kyiv more fervently pressed the West to loosen weapons use restrictions and allow it to target Russian air bases and launch sites far from the border.

Zelenskyy made the case during an in-person meeting of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group at Ramstein Air Base in Germany. He appeared to make inroads with some of the defense leaders from the 50-plus partner nations who regularly gather to coordinate weapons aid for the war.

But he did not appear to sway the ally he needs most. After the talks, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin pushed back on the idea that long-range strikes would be a game-changer.

“I don’t believe one capability is going to be decisive and I stand by that comment,” Austin said. The Ukrainians have other means to strike long-range targets, he said.



Recent Russian Attacks Fuel Ukraine’s Request​

Zelenskyy’s request comes after a series of recent deadly Russian airstrikes, including against a Ukrainian military training center that killed more than 50 and wounded hundreds this week. On Friday, the Kremlin fired five ballistic missiles at the city of Pavlohrad in the eastern Dnipropetrovsk region, injuring at least 50 people, regional Gov. Serhii Lysak said.

“We need to have this long-range capability, not only on the divided territory of Ukraine, but also on the Russian territory, so that Russia is motivated to seek peace,” Zelenskyy said. “We need to make Russian cities and even Russian soldiers think about what they need: peace or Putin.”

The question remained whether Zelenskyy could convince President Joe Biden that the U.S. should ease its restrictions as well. While Biden has allowed Ukraine to fire U.S.-provided missiles into Russia in self-defense, the distance has been largely limited to cross-border targets deemed a direct threat, out of concerns about further escalating the conflict.


International Support for Ukraine’s Request​

At the meeting Friday, multiple countries seemed to be persuaded that Ukraine should get the green light, which could add pressure on the Biden administration.

“Many countries (are) in favor,” said Laurynas Kasčiūnas, Lithuania’s defense minister. “Many, many. But the question is not the number of countries, but countries who give (those) missiles.”

By announcing Lithuania’s support, Kasčiūnas said, “I hope it will help to convince other countries.”

Canada’s defense minister, Bill Blair, said he hopes other Western allies also get behind the push. Canada does not have long-range munitions it could provide on its own, Blair said.

“One of the things President Zelenskyy and his ministers have made very clear to us is that they are suffering significant attacks from air bases and military installations located within Russia,” Blair said. “We support their request for permission, but it’s still a decision of our allies.”



Ukraine’s Offensive and Russia’s Focus​

Ukraine is now in the midst of its first offensive operations of the war while facing a significant threat from Russian forces near a key hub in the Donbas, and Kyiv is seeing that its time is running short to shore up ongoing military support before the U.S. presidential election in November.

Zelenskyy said Ukraine’s surprise assault inside Russia’s Kursk region has led to the capture of about 1,300 square kilometers (500 square miles) of Russian territory and killed or injured about 6,000 Russian soldiers. But it has not drawn away President Vladimir Putin’s focus from taking the Ukrainian city of Pokrovsk, which provides critical rail and supply links for the Ukrainian army. Losing Pokrovsk could put additional Ukrainian cities at risk.

While Kursk has put Russia on the defensive, “we know Putin’s malice runs deep,” and Moscow is pressing on, especially around Pokrovsk, Austin said.

The Pentagon chief said the U.S. will provide $250 million more in weapons to Ukraine, including air defense munitions and artillery.

Zelenskyy, however, said promised weapons systems have been too slow to arrive.

“The number of air defense systems that have not yet been delivered is significant,” he said.

German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said those systems, particularly Patriot air defense systems, need to be in Ukraine’s hands so it can defend its electrical grid and infrastructure during winter fighting.

Focus on Ukraine’s Defense Industrial Base​

As well as resources for air defense and artillery, the meeting aimed to focus on shoring up gains in expanding Ukraine’s own defense industrial base so it could be on more solid footing as Biden’s term winds down.

Western partner nations are working with Ukraine to source a substitute missile for its Soviet-era S-300 air defense systems, Austin said.

The U.S. is also focused on resourcing a variety of air-to-ground missiles that the newly delivered F-16 fighter jets can carry, including the Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile, which could give Ukraine a longer-range cruise missile option, said Bill LaPlante, the Pentagon’s top weapons buyer, who spoke to reporters traveling with Austin.

No decisions on the munition have been made, LaPlante said, noting that policymakers would still have to decide whether to give Ukraine the longer-range capability.

“I would just put JASSM in that category, it’s something that is always being looked at,” LaPlante said. “Anything that’s an air-to-ground weapon is always being looked at.”

For the past two years, members of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group have met to resource Ukraine’s artillery and air defense needs, ranging from hundreds of millions of rounds of small arms ammunition to some of the West’s most sophisticated air defense systems, and now fighter jets. The request this month was more of the same, but it came in person from Zelenskyy.

Since 2022, the member nations together have provided about $106 billion in security assistance to Ukraine. The U.S. has provided more than $56 billion of that total.

The German government said Chancellor Olaf Scholz planned to meet Zelenskyy in Frankfurt later Friday.
 

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Buddy don’t care what comes out his mouth…
It seems like

1.You don’t want peace…
2.You can’t push Russia out
3.You don’t know how to keep your soldiers and equipment safe
4. You just want more money.


If you do 1-3 you won’t get 4

 

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The United States has announced a new military aid package for Ukraine worth $250 million.

The following will be transferred from the available U.S. Army stockpiles:

▪️RIM-7 anti-aircraft missiles;
▪️Stinger MANPADS;
▪️HIMARS MLRS ammunition;
▪️155mm and 105mm artillery shells;
▪️TOW ATGM;
▪️Javelin ATGM and AT-4 anti-tank grenade launchers;
▪️Bradley IFV
▪️M113 APC;
▪️MRAP armored vehicles
▪️Small arms ammunition and grenades;
▪️Patrol boats;
▪️Naval training equipment;
▪️Demolition ammunition for clearing obstacles;
▪️Spare parts and other auxiliary equipment.
 

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Just $250 million this time?

Those pockets are getting light.

:lol: insane how many resources have been wasted on that fake war but the banking cartels had to get their money back with predatory loan interest from COVID.
 

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Blinken hints US will lift restrictions on Ukraine using long-range arms in Russia​

Decision understood to have already been made in private as secretary of state says in Kyiv that US will continue to adapt policy​

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Antony Blinken, Volodymyr Zelenskiy and David Lammy in Kyiv.

The US secretary of state, Antony Blinken, gave his strongest hint yet that the White House is about to lift its restrictions on Ukraine using long-range weapons supplied by the west on key military targets inside Russia, with a decision understood to have already been made in private.

Speaking in Kyiv alongside the UK foreign secretary, David Lammy, Blinken said the US had “from day one” been willing to adapt its policy as the situation on the battlefield in Ukraine changed. “We will continue to do this,” he emphasised.



Blinken said he and Lammy would report back to their “bosses” – Joe Biden and Keir Starmer – after their talks on Wednesday with the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

The foreign secretary suggested Iran’s dispatch of ballistic missiles to Moscow – revealed this week – had changed strategic thinking in London and Washington. It was a “significant and dangerous escalation”, he said.

He added: “The escalator here is Putin. Putin has escalated with the shipment of missiles from Iran. We see a new axis of Russia, Iran and North Korea.” Lammy urged China “not to throw in its lot” with what he called “a group of renegades”.

British government sources indicated that a decision had already been made to allow Ukraine to use Storm Shadow cruise missiles on targets inside Russia, although it is not expected to be publicly announced on Friday when Starmer meets Biden in Washington DC.

The two leaders are planning to discuss the war in Ukraine, and how it could be ended, as part of a wide-ranging foreign policy discussion, though they will avoid an intense focus on any individual weapons system, as the aim of the conversation is strategic.

No press conference is scheduled during what is expected to be a short visit, Starmer’s second to the US as prime minister, after which there may be further conversations over the weekend to update key European allies on the discussions.

Wednesday’s joint visit to Kyiv by Blinken and Lammy to meet Zelenskiy would not be taking place had there been no positive decision regarding Storm Shadow, the sources added.

But it would be considered unnecessarily provocative to make a public announcement about long-range missiles in Kyiv. It is also likely there will still be restrictions around Ukraine’s use of the missiles, which have a range of at least 190 miles, to avoid reckless or unnecessary attacks.

Speaking in Kyiv, Lammy said he would not reveal details of private discussions that might hand Putin an advantage. He denounced the Russian leader’s “sinister” invasion of Ukraine and accused him personally of “arrogance and greed”.

“This is imperialism. This is fascism,” he said.

Ukraine has been lobbying for months for permission to hit airfields, missile launchers and command and control centres deep inside Russian territory. Speaking to the Guardian in May, Zelenskiy said Biden’s equivocation and incremental approach had cost lives. It allowed the Kremlin to “hunt” Ukrainians, he complained.

Zelenskiy urged the president to overcome his perennial worries about nuclear escalation. The US should “believe in us more”, he stressed, saying of Russia: “We have to respond. They don’t understand anything but force.”

Blinken and Lammy arrived in Kyiv on an overnight train from Poland. They had come to reiterate “ironclad support for Ukraine”, Lammy posted on X. “We must stand up to Vladimir Putin’s imperialism. Our collective security depends on it.” Russia’s attacks on civilians were “horrific, barbaric, unbelievable”, he commented.

The trip came 24 hours after Blinken confirmed in London that Tehran had shipped new deadly ballistic missiles to Russia. In Kyiv, Blinken said he was delivering a strong message that Britain and the US were committed to Ukraine’s “success” and “victory”.

Speaking at a joint press conference, Lammy described the UK’s backing for Ukraine as an enduring “hundred-year partnership”. He said the government was providing a new package of military assistance including Brimstone missiles and AS-90 self-propelled guns.

“We recognise what is at stake: not just the liberty of Ukraine but the security of Europe and the west,” Lammy declared.

There was growing anticipation in Kyiv that the US and UK would finally lift their objections to long-range strikes. “Hoping to hear a long-awaited decision to allow us to hit Russia with Atacms,” the MP Kira Rudik said. “Fingers crossed,” Andriy Zagorodnyuk, Ukraine’s former defence minister, remarked.

Asked if long-range weapons would make a difference, at a time when Russian troops were gaining towns and villages in the eastern Donbas region, he replied simply: “It is a big deal.”

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Ukrainian officials had previously expressed frustration that the new Labour government in the UK had not been more robust on the issue, and had waited for the White House to amend its red lines. The US state department has reportedly been open to Kyiv’s request, with the Pentagon and some in the US intelligence community sceptical.

In May the US allowed weapons such as Himars artillery to be used within Russia’s border regions for the first time. This followed a Kremlin offensive into the Kharkiv region and the Ukrainian city of Vovchansk.

This week senior Democrats and Republicans in Washington urged the White House to go further. In a letter, a group of senators called on Biden “to immediately end” his administration’s “limitations” on the use of long-range missiles provided by the US and its Nato allies.

I am joining my Caucus co-chairs in calling on President Biden to lift restrictions on Ukraine's use of long-range weapons. We need to remove the handcuffs and give Ukraine every advantage. pic.twitter.com/9EJ0GQ6TSt
— Senator Roger Wicker (@SenatorWicker) September 10, 2024
Without this, Kyiv would “struggle to achieve victory” and suffer “death, loss and hardship” as Russia capitalised on the policy and continued to pound Ukraine, it said. “We need to remove the handcuffs and give Ukraine every advantage,” the Republican senator Roger Wicker said.

The senators argued “sophisticated” western weapons would make a difference and force Russia to defend its “rear”. They said delays by the White House in the provision of Abrams tanks, F-16s and other US weapons were “regrettable”.

Speaking in Germany last week, the US defence secretary, Lloyd Austin, said long-range strikes would not turn the tide of the war in Ukraine’s favour. He said that Russia had already moved its glide bombs back beyond the range of the US Atacms long-range systems.

Austin said Kyiv had developed capabilities to hit targets beyond the reach of Anglo-French Storm Shadow missiles. Ukraine has used domestically produced long-range drones to strike Moscow and beyond.

Its operations have been increasingly successful. On Monday a drone attack shut three of Moscow’s airports. Another strike earlier this month damaged an oil refinery on the outskirts of the capital. There were reports on Wednesday that drones had targeted an airbase in Murmansk, in Russia’s Arctic circle, 1,100 miles (1,800km) from Ukrainian lines.

Matthew Savill, the director of military sciences at the defence thinktank Rusi in London, said Ukraine had not briefed allies in advance about its surprise incursion in August into Russia’s Kursk region. “It changed the debate about escalation and the use inside Russia of long-range weapons,” he said.

He cautioned that it would be “very, very hard to knock out” Russian airbases, which were “mostly lots of concrete” and “hundreds of kilometres” beyond the frontline. Atacms missiles with cluster bomblets would be more effective than non-cluster-armed Storm Shadows, he suggested.

In Moscow, the deputy foreign minister Sergey Ryabkov said Russia would destroy any new Atacms deliveries, the state news agency Tass reported.
 
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