John Mellencamp’s ‘Jack & Diane’ Was Originally Written About An Interracial Couple

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Little ditty about “Jack & Diane”: those two American kids growing up in the heartland were originally an interracial couple.

John Mellencamp’s 1982 hit — which he released under the name John Cougar — has since become iconic, along with its two characters, the football star and the debutante who spend their time “suckin’ on chili dogs outside the Tastee Freez.” But Jack was originally supposed to be a much different character, Mellencamp told HuffPost Live on Monday.

“Originally the line was Jack was not a football star, Jack was an African American,” Mellencamp said. “In 1982, when I turned the song in to the record company, they went, ‘Whoa, can’t you make him something other than that?’”

The singer-songwriter tried to stick with his original vision at first, but he was eventually persuaded otherwise, he told host Marc Lamont Hill.

“I said, ‘Well, I don’t really want to [change it]. I mean, that’s the whole point. This is really a song about race relationships and a white girl being with a black guy, and that’s what the song’s about.’ And they said, ‘No, no, no, no,’” Mellencamp said of the conversation with his record label. “So, anyway, through much debate and me being young, I said, ‘Okay, we’ll make him a football star.’”

A 2012 Vulture piece quoted a hardcore Mellencamp fan as saying the singer “abandoned that idea because he thought it was a little much for the early eighties.” Whether changing Jack’s race was ultimately Mellencamp’s decision or his record label’s, he told HuffPost Live that he doesn’t regret it because of how long the song has remained relevant.

“I think Jack and Diane became, as near as I could tell, the most popular couple in music, in that genre of music,” he said.

Listen to the lyrics and they take a different meaning.
Then you realize why the record company panicked

Lyrics
Little ditty about Jack and Diane
Two American kids growin' up in the heartland
Jackie gonna be a football star
Diane debutante backseat of Jackie's car

Suckin' on chili dogs outside the tastee freeze
Diane's sittin' on Jackie's lap
He's got his hand between her knees
Jackie say, hey, Diane
Let's run off behind a shady trees
Dribble off those Bobby Brooks
Let me do what I please
Say a

Oh yeah, life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin' is gone
Say a
Oh yeah, life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin' is gone
They walk on

Jackie sits back
Reflects his thoughts for the moment
Scratches his head
And does his best James Dean
Well you know, Diane
We oughta run off to the city
Diane says, baby
You ain't missin' nuth-in
Jackie, say-a

Oh yeah, life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin' is gone
Oh yeah, I say, life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin' is gone

Gonna let it rock
Let it roll
Let the Bible Belt come
And save my soul
Hold on to sixteen as long as you can
Changes come around real soon
Make us women and men

Oh yeah, life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin' is gone
Oh yeah, I say, life goes on
Long after the thrill of livin' is gone

Little ditty about Jack and Diane
Two American kids done the best they can



:dunno::dunno::dunno::dunno:
 
I love revisionist cacs. Their stories of cowardice for monetary game warms my little negro soul. John really cared about me. Boy, that feels so good to know.
I was thinking the same thing cuz there was nothing about that song that even remotely suggests that could have been the case...but I was thinking why would he say that if it weren't true..like whats the point hence the :dunno:
 
I love revisionist cacs. Their stories of cowardice for monetary game warms my little negro soul. John really cared about me. Boy, that feels so good to know.
What about the fact that he originally made the song about a interatial couple and the studio made him change it, you think dude could have fought his label back then?
 
What about the fact that he originally made the song about a interatial couple and the studio made him change it, you think dude could have fought his label back then?
I've always been against stupid shit. I've always been the little guy. I remember a Haitian kid being picked on and I couldn't live with myself knowing he was being harassed. Although right and wrong are subjective, I know I know what's right and what's wrong. That's the difference in the history books. History is full of far too many people who are passive to bullshit.
 
This is the same dude who regretted abandoning his family name, Mellencamp, for 'Cougar' to be more mainstream. Apparently, his youthful convictions didn't run as deep as his pockets.
 
Suckin' on chili dogs outside the tastee freeze
Diane's sittin' on Jackie's lap
He's got his hand between her knees
Jackie say, hey, Diane
Let's run off behind a shady trees
Dribble off those Bobby Brooks
Let me do what I please
Say a

I played that song during a morning weather segment at a tv station and an older white christian conservative dude freaked out when he heard that line.

I was like he said "hands between her knees" and not "hands between his legs." Either way the song was old and this cac had never heard of it. He would have really freaked out over the other version.
 
I always liked this song.
This just helps better illustrate what the song is all about.
I'll enjoy it a bit more from now on...:yes:

Too bad he was given so much shit for the original content back in the day...
 
Here was I thinking it was about two trailerpark teens who weren't going anywhere.
Now I learn that it was supposed to be about my homeboy Jack (Jaquez).
Oh wel...suppose his nose were a door post.:rolleyes:
 
I always liked this song.
This just helps better illustrate what the song is all about.
I'll enjoy it a bit more from now on...:yes:

Too bad he was given so much shit for the original content back in the day...

I'm slow...

can you please explain how with this supposed knowledge that the song takes on a whole new meaning?

I can't find any Black specific lyrics or anything on race.
 
I'm slow...

can you please explain how with this supposed knowledge that the song takes on a whole new meaning?

I can't find any Black specific lyrics or anything on race.
here's the thing....I don't see why there were need to be black specific lyrics...unless JM wanted to make some point about society and perceptions this song would stay the same and the video's visual would have shown an interracial couple..

interracial-couple.jpg


Little ditty about Jack and Diane
Two American kids growin' up in the heartland
Jackie gonna be a football star
Diane debutante backseat of Jackie's car

he's a varsity football player and she comes from a well to do family...

why the need to have race specific lyrics for this?? thats what doesn't make sense to me..
 
I guess Jamarcus and Diane didn't sound good to the Label heads

If he is so upset about it why don't he just do a new version and make the people interracial.
 
liked that beat in the middle of the song where its just the drum beat and hi-hat

This is the same dude who regretted abandoning his family name, Mellencamp, for 'Cougar' to be more mainstream. Apparently, his youthful convictions didn't run as deep as his pockets.

also had a keyboardist in his original band who went on to be a known pedo :smh:
 
here's the thing....I don't see why there were need to be black specific lyrics...unless JM wanted to make some point about society and perceptions this song would stay the same and the video's visual would have shown an interracial couple..

interracial-couple.jpg


Little ditty about Jack and Diane
Two American kids growin' up in the heartland
Jackie gonna be a football star
Diane debutante backseat of Jackie's car

he's a varsity football player and she comes from a well to do family...

why the need to have race specific lyrics for this?? thats what doesn't make sense to me..

That's my point

The listener based on the existing lyrics wouldn't know. ..

And honestly no one cared.

If his story is true?

Tell us what the original lyrics were...as is its a good song nothing more nothing less.

Now HE trying to make it deeper than it really is.
 
I'm slow...

can you please explain how with this supposed knowledge that the song takes on a whole new meaning?

I can't find any Black specific lyrics or anything on race.

Speaking for myself, this revelation helps me to understand what the original intent/content of the song is.
I look at it as sort of being "the directors cut" version of a songwriters' previously released song.
I think many artists original works are changed, altered or tampered with in favor of corporate or "puritanical" interests.

I guess you could simply view this as John Mellencamp performing "Jack & Diane" on "Unplugged" and giving the audience a glimpse as to what the song is really about....:dunno:
 
Billy Ocean's song Caribbean Queen was first African Queen. Michael McDonalds Ya Mo be there was really Jah will be there. Most songs had an explicit and radio cut.

Mellencamp's music was anti establishment. Pink House features blacks in the lyrics and video.

Dude tried to dance like James Brown.

Blacks were using African American is the 80s. I was born Black and Afro American then became an African American in high school. I remember clearly cause my mama didn't like the African label.
 
Speaking for myself, this revelation helps me to understand what the original intent/content of the song is.
I look at it as sort of being "the directors cut" version of a songwriters' previously released song.
I think many artists original works are changed, altered or tampered with in favor of corporate or "puritanical" interests.

I guess you could simply view this as John Mellencamp performing "Jack & Diane" on "Unplugged" and giving the audience a glimpse as to what the song is really about....:dunno:

Billy Ocean's song Caribbean Queen was first African Queen. Michael McDonalds Ya Mo be there was really Jah will be there. Most songs had an explicit and radio cut.

Mellencamp's music was anti establishment. Pink House features blacks in the lyrics and video.

Dude tried to dance like James Brown.

Blacks were using African American is the 80s. I was born Black and Afro American then became an African American in high school. I remember clearly cause my mama didn't like the African label.
what are you guys talking about? J&D as it stands is a song completely devoid of any kind of reference to anything that challenges society perceptions. IF there was something in the original lyrics all of that was scrubbed clean and the song remade in a way that until he actually mentioned it NO ONE thought that song had anything to do with race at all.

And the term african american was around in the early 80s but it didn't get wide use until the late 80s. In 1982 when that song came out we were BLACK.
 
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