I'm not Black i'm Dominican

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Latino & Hispanic? It’s Time to Rethink these Terms!
Michael Grande - 7/5/2005
The words Latino and Hispanic have been so carelessly thrown around, used to label individuals, taken advantage of by some of the popular media (ie: Latin Grammy’s, AOL Latino, and the Hispanic Heritage Awards), and even used by some unknowing people as a tool to define their heritage. Yet do we really know what these words mean?

There are over 25 countries where Spanish is either the official, or a commonly spoken language (including areas of the world that people don’t often associate with Spanish, like Andorra or the Philippines), and Spanish is the second most spoken language in the world. Additionally there are myriad regional dialects; some examples are the original Castilian Spanish of Spain (directly descended from the Latin language), Argentinean Spanish with its distinctive Italian flair, and Mexican Spanish with its characteristic blend of indigenous (Native American) words.

There is no “typical” skin color for Spanish speakers - they range from the lightest whites to Mediterranean breeds, from those of Indian (Native Central/South American and Caribbean) heritage to black. All of the Spanish-speaking countries have their own unique peoples and their own distinctive cultures – they cannot be broadly and irresponsibly categorized into a “Latino” grouping. It is entirely imprecise to use such broad, vague, inaccurate terminology to categorize people based upon their language (whatever dialect it may be). Oddly enough, the term “Latino(a)” is never (or rarely) used in the USA to refer to Western Europeans such as Spaniards and Italians, when in fact the original Latin cultures lie within Italy, Spain, Portugal, Romania, Andorra, and France. Furthermore, when students arrive at college or pick up a book on European history, they will find that the term Latin, when used to refer to a monolithic culture, will speak of the Ancient Roman society, which is contrary to the ambiguous terminology employed by American media.

The term Latin America first came into use in the late 1860’s and was used to describe the French presence in Mexico. This term was later shortened to refer to people from “Latin American” countries; thus solidifying the American misperception of the term. I have many Spanish-speaking friends, all of whom hail from different countries. My ex-college Professor is from Argentina and has almost nothing culturally in common with my friend from Mexico. As a matter of fact they too hate the use of the term Latino; they demand to be referred to according to their country of heritage, and rightly so!

Furthermore, the terms Latino and Hispanic have been irresponsibly used as a “minority labeling system.” I find this to be even more reckless because any and all racism boils down to that which it always has: color. Another of my friends hails from Chile and has red hair and blue eyes, but according to popular media, a job application, or a government form, she is Latina or Hispanic, two terms that she earnestly hates because they pay no credence to her unique culture. Somehow I don’t think she was the minority prototype that they were looking for, but possibly that’s because the terminology is so rampantly and incorrectly used. Racism is despicable in any form, but if these silly questions are still going to be asked on government forms and job applications then they should address that which is truly in question: race. Anyone who hails from Central/South America or the Caribbean who is dark-skinned is likely to be either in part or fully of Indian heritage. Instead of making tons of superfluous categories on forms, why not just leave two boxes: Native American (North/Central/South/Caribbean) and African American? The other day I heard someone say, “Did you know that Latinos constitute the second largest minority population in America?” I thought to myself, “This is ridiculous.” Nobody needs to be forced into an inappropriate minority mentality; how has American cultural ignorance become so pervasive? Who are the minorities? The indigenous (native) population or the mestizo (mixed) population? Who exactly does this refer to? It’s so confusing. I am 100% Italian American. I speak both Spanish and Italian fluently. Since Italy is the patriarch of the Latin Culture, am I a minority too? This has become a very perplexing issue indeed.

In Western Europe the term Latin(o)(a) is commonly used to refer the cultures of Italy, Spain, Portugal, Romania, and France. Additionally Europeans are shocked at how the term is used in America and who the term has been used to label. The term Latino(a) refers to the Latin culture, a culture that originally flourished in Italy during Roman times. It was during that time that the Romans spread the Latin language throughout Western Europe; the language then morphed into the modern Romance Languages such as Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and French. In essence, the Italians are the original Latinos, and the only people who should be termed “Latino(a)” are those whose ancestry stems from Western Europe or those who have strong cultural ties to Latin Culture. Why would someone so irresponsibly refer to an indigenous Mexican as “Latino” when he has his own ancient, Pre-Columbian Heritage, ie: Aztec, or Mayan? Why would someone use the term to refer to someone of indigenous Peruvian heritage when he has his own Incan heritage? Why would someone label an indigenous-blooded Puerto Rican as “Latino” when his bloodline lies with the Borinquen Indians? People need to wake up and get educated on this issue. How many North Americans would like to be referred to as “Norths” or “Anglos” based upon our geographical location or our mother tongue? I for one, would not! The spread of such inaccurate terminology only helps to perpetuate myths that prevail in our society. Cultural ignorance seems to be a popular phenomenon in the U.S.A. Americans do not have the right to irresponsibly use terminology that attempts to alter history. We have the resources to become culturally educated; let’s use them and begin to express our heritage by country, not vague, “media and commerce friendly” generalities.

If indeed we chose to speak of “Latinos,” using such a generalist quip, a quick reference term for all those who trace their roots to Latin America., then we should include the maternal Latin countries in that group: Italy, Spain, Portugal, even France. There is a pervasive Latin cultural flow that began in those countries and spread to Latin America. Latinos wouldn’t be “Latinoamericano” without the Europeans.

Since the word “Hispanic” originally came from Spain as an adjective for linguistic purposes and is derived from the Roman name for their prized province “Hispania,” I guess we should look at England’s Roman name – “Britannia.” It appears then, according to Hispanic rhetoric that all speakers of English, regardless of culture, race, ethnicity, or geography should be called “Britannic.” So from India to America – I guess I should now present the list of BRITANNICS…. I think you’ll begin to see for yourself just how silly the modern-day, American usage of the words Hispanic and Latino has become…

Thank You!!!!
 

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and I don't mean fuck ALL, Hispanics/Latinos, just for those who feel the need to press the fact that they aren't black.

Yep.

He's RIGHT!

Hear me on this.


If he is not a direct decedent of American slaves or "Black" experience
in America through Oppression and Civil rights then he is not the type
of "Black" we celebrate on Black History Month or technically the type
of category we are asked to include as "African American" on
applications and medical/government documents.

With that said he is very delusional if he thinks claiming
his Dominican heritage and regarding his skin tone as some
sort of coincidence means he is not of African decent.
:smh:

He is a lost African who is in the West and will spend the rest
of his life self hating.

Can't save him from that.


Spanish and Portuguese slave trade influenced the ignorant
mindset of South America and the Caribbean more than folks
will ever admit too.

No, he's wrong and anybody agreeing with him is wrong. He is Black and Dominican like Lennox Lewis is Black and English. Like I am Black and American. Your nationality and ethnicity are two different things.
 

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There are Black Dominican's dumb ass. Dominican is a nationality, not a race. For example, I'm American, but also a Black man. It's a lot of dumb ass people that say so and so is mixed with Black and Dominican.
 

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Yep.



No, he's wrong and anybody agreeing with him is wrong. He is Black and Dominican like Lennox Lewis is Black and English. Like I am Black and American. Your nationality and ethnicity are two different things.

You are Black and American which is appear-ant since your reading skills
will not allow you to read between the lines of my reply.

Read it again!:hmm:
 

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For a while I would fill out other and write in west Indian on anything that asked nationality.
 

mcguyver

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For a while I would fill out other and write in west Indian on anything that asked nationality.

You Indian then?
Where abouts Dehli?



:confused:

WHAT

:hmm:



:hmm:




barbados.png
 

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i don't get it im Puerto Rican so by default im black i mean theres a big ass statue on the island that has a Spaniard(for raping our natives) a taino native(who was raped) and an African( who was brought thru Puerto Rico as a pit stop and slave re up spot after also being raped and fucked over) were all three were mixed through rape and both our natives coming together so there aint no such thing as a "pure" blooded Puerto Rican to be Puerto Rican is to be mixed and i love and embrace that and am racist to no one...except white people:hmm:














my history may be slightly off since im high as a mother fucker of some purp and some vicoden so its something like that:lol::D


i feel u dogg. Actually, that's pretty accurate.
 

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Latino & Hispanic? It’s Time to Rethink these Terms!
Michael Grande - 7/5/2005
The words Latino and Hispanic have been so carelessly thrown around, used to label individuals, taken advantage of by some of the popular media (ie: Latin Grammy’s, AOL Latino, and the Hispanic Heritage Awards), and even used by some unknowing people as a tool to define their heritage. Yet do we really know what these words mean?

There are over 25 countries where Spanish is either the official, or a commonly spoken language (including areas of the world that people don’t often associate with Spanish, like Andorra or the Philippines), and Spanish is the second most spoken language in the world. Additionally there are myriad regional dialects; some examples are the original Castilian Spanish of Spain (directly descended from the Latin language), Argentinean Spanish with its distinctive Italian flair, and Mexican Spanish with its characteristic blend of indigenous (Native American) words.

There is no “typical” skin color for Spanish speakers - they range from the lightest whites to Mediterranean breeds, from those of Indian (Native Central/South American and Caribbean) heritage to black. All of the Spanish-speaking countries have their own unique peoples and their own distinctive cultures – they cannot be broadly and irresponsibly categorized into a “Latino” grouping. It is entirely imprecise to use such broad, vague, inaccurate terminology to categorize people based upon their language (whatever dialect it may be). Oddly enough, the term “Latino(a)” is never (or rarely) used in the USA to refer to Western Europeans such as Spaniards and Italians, when in fact the original Latin cultures lie within Italy, Spain, Portugal, Romania, Andorra, and France. Furthermore, when students arrive at college or pick up a book on European history, they will find that the term Latin, when used to refer to a monolithic culture, will speak of the Ancient Roman society, which is contrary to the ambiguous terminology employed by American media.

The term Latin America first came into use in the late 1860’s and was used to describe the French presence in Mexico. This term was later shortened to refer to people from “Latin American” countries; thus solidifying the American misperception of the term. I have many Spanish-speaking friends, all of whom hail from different countries. My ex-college Professor is from Argentina and has almost nothing culturally in common with my friend from Mexico. As a matter of fact they too hate the use of the term Latino; they demand to be referred to according to their country of heritage, and rightly so!

Furthermore, the terms Latino and Hispanic have been irresponsibly used as a “minority labeling system.” I find this to be even more reckless because any and all racism boils down to that which it always has: color. Another of my friends hails from Chile and has red hair and blue eyes, but according to popular media, a job application, or a government form, she is Latina or Hispanic, two terms that she earnestly hates because they pay no credence to her unique culture. Somehow I don’t think she was the minority prototype that they were looking for, but possibly that’s because the terminology is so rampantly and incorrectly used. Racism is despicable in any form, but if these silly questions are still going to be asked on government forms and job applications then they should address that which is truly in question: race. Anyone who hails from Central/South America or the Caribbean who is dark-skinned is likely to be either in part or fully of Indian heritage. Instead of making tons of superfluous categories on forms, why not just leave two boxes: Native American (North/Central/South/Caribbean) and African American? The other day I heard someone say, “Did you know that Latinos constitute the second largest minority population in America?” I thought to myself, “This is ridiculous.” Nobody needs to be forced into an inappropriate minority mentality; how has American cultural ignorance become so pervasive? Who are the minorities? The indigenous (native) population or the mestizo (mixed) population? Who exactly does this refer to? It’s so confusing. I am 100% Italian American. I speak both Spanish and Italian fluently. Since Italy is the patriarch of the Latin Culture, am I a minority too? This has become a very perplexing issue indeed.

In Western Europe the term Latin(o)(a) is commonly used to refer the cultures of Italy, Spain, Portugal, Romania, and France. Additionally Europeans are shocked at how the term is used in America and who the term has been used to label. The term Latino(a) refers to the Latin culture, a culture that originally flourished in Italy during Roman times. It was during that time that the Romans spread the Latin language throughout Western Europe; the language then morphed into the modern Romance Languages such as Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and French. In essence, the Italians are the original Latinos, and the only people who should be termed “Latino(a)” are those whose ancestry stems from Western Europe or those who have strong cultural ties to Latin Culture. Why would someone so irresponsibly refer to an indigenous Mexican as “Latino” when he has his own ancient, Pre-Columbian Heritage, ie: Aztec, or Mayan? Why would someone use the term to refer to someone of indigenous Peruvian heritage when he has his own Incan heritage? Why would someone label an indigenous-blooded Puerto Rican as “Latino” when his bloodline lies with the Borinquen Indians? People need to wake up and get educated on this issue. How many North Americans would like to be referred to as “Norths” or “Anglos” based upon our geographical location or our mother tongue? I for one, would not! The spread of such inaccurate terminology only helps to perpetuate myths that prevail in our society. Cultural ignorance seems to be a popular phenomenon in the U.S.A. Americans do not have the right to irresponsibly use terminology that attempts to alter history. We have the resources to become culturally educated; let’s use them and begin to express our heritage by country, not vague, “media and commerce friendly” generalities.

If indeed we chose to speak of “Latinos,” using such a generalist quip, a quick reference term for all those who trace their roots to Latin America., then we should include the maternal Latin countries in that group: Italy, Spain, Portugal, even France. There is a pervasive Latin cultural flow that began in those countries and spread to Latin America. Latinos wouldn’t be “Latinoamericano” without the Europeans.

Since the word “Hispanic” originally came from Spain as an adjective for linguistic purposes and is derived from the Roman name for their prized province “Hispania,” I guess we should look at England’s Roman name – “Britannia.” It appears then, according to Hispanic rhetoric that all speakers of English, regardless of culture, race, ethnicity, or geography should be called “Britannic.” So from India to America – I guess I should now present the list of BRITANNICS…. I think you’ll begin to see for yourself just how silly the modern-day, American usage of the words Hispanic and Latino has become…

Unfortunately...it is a labeling system by those that are in power/ruling. Yes the labeling is inaccurate but that has been going on for centuries. The Natives were falsely labeled as Indians. Slaves and their descent...have been label a number of times...all of which has been inaccurate but close if referred to as color related to skin tone. As for the monitory labeling...that dates back to the constitution. The Whites that were in power are the Majority...everyone else with exception of the Natives...are the Minority. Majority and Minority are define by tax groups and are referred to as how much of a human-being they consider you as. Slaves (from Africa) were considered not even 3/5ths of a whole human...so they're only allowed to tax them 3/5ths worth. The Whites that are in power are suppose to be taxed the full amount which they've created loop-holes to get around that and make everyone else pay their share also.

Once you understand the meanings of words and you actually read...you will find an alarming rate/amount of legal crimes forced upon humanity that's suppose to be considered civilization (civilized humans = citizens). You will also learn that Americans is under a hidden dictatorship that the ones ruling put upon everyone who is not in their Inner Circle.

BASICALLY, WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW WILL HURT YOU. But as the movie Matrix so welly put it..."Ignorance is bliss"


But on a lighter note: Where do I get the video that your sig came from?
 

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You are Black and American which is appear-ant since your reading skills
will not allow you to read between the lines of my reply.

Read it again!:hmm:

I did and your post is strangely contradictory so either we agree or disagree. Going by your post, it's both. The difference is I'm very clear in what I'm saying.
 

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Try telling these Dominican folks here in Harlem/Washington Heights that they are BLACK and see what happens.
 

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Try telling these Dominican folks here in Harlem/Washington Heights that they are BLACK and see what happens.

They will have a fit,rant & rave but its ok because deep down inside I know,they know and we all know the truth.Its like a secret they dont want to let out,so I used as a secret that Ill throw up in their face when they decide to get out of character with soul brother #1.
 

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I did and your post is strangely contradictory so either we agree or disagree. Going by your post, it's both. The difference is I'm very clear in what I'm saying.


Cool I stated that for those with there 3rd eye open but I can understand how some might mis-interpreted.

Hell isn't that the moral of this thread anyway.

One big mess:smh:

Trust me I understood the simple clarity in your reply but just letting you know you preaching
to the choir, but at least others get to read what we both had to say maybe it will do some e-good.;)
 

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i don't get it im Puerto Rican so by default im black i mean theres a big ass statue on the island that has a Spaniard(for raping our natives) a taino native(who was raped) and an African( who was brought thru Puerto Rico as a pit stop and slave re up spot after also being raped and fucked over) were all three were mixed through rape and both our natives coming together so there aint no such thing as a "pure" blooded Puerto Rican to be Puerto Rican is to be mixed and i love and embrace that and am racist to no one...except white people:hmm:














my history may be slightly off since im high as a mother fucker of some purp and some vicoden so its something like that:lol::D


i got some vicoden can you spare some purp??:lol::lol:
 

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I don't see a nation called India there or even West India.....



Hey Mr. Uneducated jack-off. It has nothing to do with the people there being Indian. Trinidad has a large amount of Indians as well as Jamaica however, that is not why they call themselves West Indians.


The British West Indies are a diversified group of Caribbean islands, all are dependent areas of the United Kingdom. They are a subset of the Caribbean Islands, which are also called the West Indies.

The name goes back to Columbus, who tried to find India by sailing west. He found islands he thought belonged to India. As it was clear it was not India he found, they were renamed West Indies to distinguish them from the eastern India.



The West Indies is a mixture of Blacks, Chinks and some CACs. That's why you find all kind of different race of people down there.
 

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my girl is dominican and dark skinned. long story short.
Racial Profiling!! In the US your black no matter how much she tried to justify she was not. She eventually did her research and came to terms with her blackness. Dominicans are black :hmm::lol::lol:
 

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They will have a fit,rant & rave but its ok because deep down inside I know,they know and we all know the truth.Its like a secret they dont want to let out,so I used as a secret that Ill throw up in their face when they decide to get out of character with soul brother #1.

My man try telling a Dominican you aren't dominincan and the catch a fit.I happen to be a dark puerto rican. There is this misconception that all Puerto Ricans look like Marc Anthony and J-LO. Look man just ask your self this you think J-Lo got that butt from her Spanish ancestors? Look at most of that latinas with the nice booties. Puerto ricans, Dominicans,Jamaicans they are have the same lineage and same beautiful sexy hot-ass bodies. YOu can even count in the Panamanians, the Hondurans,and those from Belize. African, Spaniard, Portuguese and yes we got some British blood in there somewhere. Man the white man has lusted over women of color for years. Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings look at that little piece of history that isn't really a topic of discussion when it comes to race relations. If Latinos don't open their eyes we will keep on falling for the divide and conquer tactics.
 

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my girl is dominican and dark skinned. long story short.
Racial Profiling!! In the US your black no matter how much she tried to justify she was not. She eventually did her research and came to terms with her blackness. Dominicans are black :hmm::lol::lol:



Not all. You have some CAC Dominicans but, this kid was a black Dominican in the video and the kid in the confrence. There is no such thing as an American race. You have Black,Chink,CAC,etc... Americans no one say no i'm not black i'm an American.
 

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My man try telling a Dominican you aren't dominincan and the catch a fit.I happen to be a dark puerto rican. There is this misconception that all Puerto Ricans look like Marc Anthony and J-LO. Look man just ask your self this you think J-Lo got that butt from her Spanish ancestors? Look at most of that latinas with the nice booties. Puerto ricans, Dominicans,Jamaicans they are have the same lineage and same beautiful sexy hot-ass bodies. YOu can even count in the Panamanians, the Hondurans,and those from Belize. African, Spaniard, Portuguese and yes we got some British blood in there somewhere. Man the white man has lusted over women of color for years. Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings look at that little piece of history that isn't really a topic of discussion when it comes to race relations. If Latinos don't open their eyes we will keep on falling for the divide and conquer tactics.



Yeah CACs did go around and literally fucked this entire planet up. Now you got black mafuckas saying they ain't black to separate themselves from the "black" disease. Thanks CACs thanks. :smh::smh::smh::smh:
 

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my girl is dominican and dark skinned. long story short.
Racial Profiling!! In the US your black no matter how much she tried to justify she was not. She eventually did her research and came to terms with her blackness. Dominicans are black :hmm::lol::lol:



What did she consider herself? I use to think (in my teens and early 20s) it referred to african americans born in america.
 

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Not all. You have some CAC Dominicans but, this kid was a black Dominican in the video and the kid in the confrence. There is no such thing as an American race. You have Black,Chink,CAC,etc... Americans no one say no i'm not black i'm an American.

all i was saying is she was racial profiled. CAC see dark skin, they think black. its always been like that.
 

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I don't see a nation called India there or even West India.....



There is no West India. It's West Indies and East Indies.



West Indies is made up of black and other people.


East Indies is strickly Indians(because that's where the real Indians are)



Columbus dumb ass thought that the Carribean Islands belong to the Indians that's why he said ok this section is the West Indies and this section is called the East Indies not East Indians.



If his dumb ass was alive today he would have to correct himself and just say Caribbean people or the people down below North America and make up some weird European name like Them Dancehallers and Carnivalers. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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all i was saying is she was racial profiled. CAC see dark skin, they think black. its always been like that.



Yeah poor girl, sorry to hear. CACs literally fucked up the mind of the people of the world and she had to learn the hard way when she got here. Same with Filipinos. They get looked down on by other Asians because they are darker. :smh::smh::smh::smh:
 

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What did she consider herself? I use to think (in my teens and early 20s) it referred to african americans born in america.

she was born in the DR. moved to the US in '02. She referred herself as just a Dominican. I thought she was black until she told me she is from the DR.
 
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