The Official... Manny Pacquiao, Freddy Roach, and Bob Arum are full of shit Thread!!!

[TJervey]

I want to apologize the the Boxing Heads on BGOL for the past two years of trumpeting these idiots?!?! Not that I've joined the Floyd Bandwagon, but these Dude's are quietly fucking up boxing, and I drank the kool-aid for a long time...

Now, with this fighting Shane Mosley shit on April 16th, they've reached an all time low in terms of bullshit! Looking at Manny's 'Legacy' if someone really takes a look at it, it should have an asterisk next two in in the same way people are bitching about Barry Bonds home run record?!?! There is the speculation of Drugs, cherry picking opponents, and out and out Ducking quality fighters, especially lately.

Marquez has looked fucking dominant lately, and Manny has NOT clearly beaten him yet. I guess after that last close call they were like 'Fuck fighting this Dude again'! Manny all but said it after that fight when he said he was finished fighting Marquez. Now, they pick Shane?!?! Coming off of two lackluster performances, clearly on his down side!!! What benefit is there in beating him now?!?!? Why not fuck around with Berto, where he would still be a favorite to win?

These Dude's are real idiots, telegraphing and exposing themselves even before the fight is officially signed. Manny's advisor is already chiming in about how Manny will dominate Mosley, and how he has no chance, etc. http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33512 , and Roach is notorious for the same stupid assed comments, so why make the fight in the first place? Why not fight someone whom you perceive is more of a challenge... Marquez maybe? Because they are bullshit artists! I could see them fighting someone who gave Floyd fits to prove a point, but Floyd beat Shane as badly as you could beat someone without knocking them out!?!?!?! What does this prove!!!

Sorry for the long post, I had to vent, Fuck all of these clowns... Where are the streams at!!! I ain't supporting their bullshit!!! Fuck Manny, Freddy and Arum!!!!

 

[Alaskanredman]

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How dare you?

Pac is the great warrior.

Who cares that he is fighting bums as long as he is fighting, right?

You're talking like any (recent) good opponent that he has had is coming off of bad loses before he fights them.

I mean its not like he has an opponent that is a challenge and he walked away from negotiations.

You are bugging.

 

[Spectrum]

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[Spectrum]

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Ive got no more faith in Shane but Shane would KO Pacman if he lands the type of shot on he landed on Floyd in that second round.... I hope Shane finds his last masterful fight somewhere in there.

 

[TJervey]

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Ive got no more faith in Shane but Shane would KO Pacman if he lands the type of shot on he landed on Floyd in that second round.... I hope Shane finds his last masterful fight somewhere in there.

No doubt... I'm hoping for a stagger around the ring knockout like Judah had a few years ago too! Some embarrassing shit so that all of these motherfuckers are exposed! I used to feel like Manny would fight anybody and he was just relying on his management team... but fuck that big headed ass joker, he knows what he's doing too...

 

[Brother Blues]

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Funny how parts of our society wants certain people to succeed.

Right now it's Pacquiao...no one will take a critical look at him.Maybe because the anti-PBF hate is so strong,they anoint Pacquiao.

As long as people keep buying this shit...they will be given shit.

I gave up a while ago...fool me once,shame on me...fool me 50x,I no longer buy PPV.

I miss the days of black boxes...

 

[Spectrum]

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I used to feel like Manny would fight anybody and he was just relying on his management team... but fuck that big headed ass joker, he knows what he's doing too...

Yeah. I was giving him the benefit out of the doubt too.... but Shane is coming off an embarrassing loss and then a draw..... crazy cherry picking considering the other options...especially considering how bad Shane looked in his last fight.... They are even admitting it in their comments that they are hoping that Shane will be gassed after 3 rounds and then he will turn into the fighter they love... that is slow and sits in front of you...the younger shane would have lit his ass up....but Shane has looked horrible in his last couple of fights

 

[TJervey]

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Yeah. I was giving him the benefit out of the doubt too.... but Shane is coming off an embarrassing loss and then a draw..... crazy cherry picking considering the other options...especially considering how bad Shane looked in his last fight.... They are even admitting it in their comments that they are hoping that Shane will be gassed after 3 rounds and then he will turn into the fighter they love... that is slow and sits in front of you...the younger shane would have lit his ass up....but Shane has looked horrible in his last couple of fights

Exactly. What they will do is, talk this shit now, then during training put out that Manny is looking sluggish, distracted, etc. Then they will talk about how concerned Freddy is for Manny's progress, in the meantime, they will start talking about how good Shane is looking, etc. Build up the hype of a bad camp, etc. then right before the fight, Freddy will give a prediction, etc. Manny will win and the boxing world will celebrate the bullshit. Thankfully commentators like Kellerman are starting to see through this shit too. Hopefully more and more will and they will be publicly exposed!!

 

[Alaskanredman]

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How dare you guys?

Pac is the great warrior

Manny is too big for Marquez.... He so big that he has been meeting most of his opponent at catch weights to give them more speed.

Marquez is slipping anyways, you didn't see it when he stopped his last opponent after beating him to the punch all night.

I mean Pac already beat Marquez and its not like trilogies are a long recognized staple of boxing.

Shane on the other hand, had a tougher opponent and put on the performance of his life to get a draw. He is looking great... no sign of aging. Just imagine if that Shane had fought Berto, he would have crush Berto cause Berto is nowhere on the level of Mora.

Which is the reason why Berto isn't even in the debate. Plus, Berto would be an option if people knew him like they know Clottey.

You guys are bugging.

 

[doggish_098]

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bullshit fan support like this is the exact reason why Floyd is and has avoided getting in the ring with Pac.

 

[merce77]

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How dare you guys?

Pac is the great warrior

Manny is too big for Marquez.... He so big that he has been meeting most of his opponent at catch weights to give them more speed.

Marquez is slipping anyways, you didn't see it when he stopped his last opponent after beating him to the punch all night.

I mean Pac already beat Marquez and its not like trilogies are a long recognized staple of boxing.

Shane on the other hand, had a tougher opponent and put on the performance of his life to get a draw. He is looking great... no sign of aging. Just imagine if that Shane had fought Berto, he would have crush Berto cause Berto is nowhere on the level of Mora.

Which is the reason why Berto isn't even in the debate. Plus, Berto would be an option if people knew him like they know Clottey.

You guys are bugging.

 

[Alaskanredman]

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How dare you guys?

Pac is a warrior

Marquez should just settle down in one weight class and if Marquez beat one of those champs at 140 then Pac might grace him with a rematch cause Marquez hasn't proven himself in his career.

Beating Katsidis up only means that Marquez is without a question the best at 135, but that doesn't mean anything cause he's slipping.

Mosley is the best option because Pac will keep fighting and it doesn't matter who he fights as long as our P4P best keeps fighting.

Plus, Mosley is the best option because Pac will beat him into retirement. Who wants good fights when you can have a washed up legend that can be taught a lesson

You guys are bugging.

 

[TJervey]

Re: The Official... Manny Pacquiao, Freddy Roach, and Bob Arum are full of shit Threa

How dare you guys?

Pac is a warrior

Marquez should just settle down in one weight class and if Marquez beat one of those champs at 140 then Pac might grace him with a rematch cause Marquez hasn't proven himself in his career.

Beating Katsidis up only means that Marquez is without a question the best at 135, but that doesn't mean anything cause he's slipping.

Mosley is the best option because Pac will keep fighting and it doesn't matter who he fights as long as our P4P best keeps fighting.

Plus, Mosley is the best option because Pac will beat him into retirement. Who wants good fights when you can have a washed up legend that can be taught a lesson

You guys are bugging.

I stand corrected........

 

[merce77]

Re: The Official... Manny Pacquiao, Freddy Roach, and Bob Arum are full of shit Threa

How dare you guys?

Pac is a warrior

Marquez should just settle down in one weight class and if Marquez beat one of those champs at 140 then Pac might grace him with a rematch cause Marquez hasn't proven himself in his career.

Beating Katsidis up only means that Marquez is without a question the best at 135, but that doesn't mean anything cause he's slipping.

Mosley is the best option because Pac will keep fighting and it doesn't matter who he fights as long as our P4P best keeps fighting.

Plus, Mosley is the best option because Pac will beat him into retirement. Who wants good fights when you can have a washed up legend that can be taught a lesson

You guys are bugging.

Damm sun you making these cats look foolish.

 

[Alaskanredman]

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Damm sun you making these cats look foolish.

Look these are our opinions.... it doesn't matter that these opinions aren't in the realm of "common" sense, because this is how we see it..... the co-sign crew doesn't have to agree.

 

[merce77]

Re: The Official... Manny Pacquiao, Freddy Roach, and Bob Arum are full of shit Threa

Maybe after they beat Mosley up who knows....maybe then a fight with Sugar Ray Leonard, assuming he'd sign to Top Rank and meet at a catchweight of 141 and 3/4's. Ray's been looking in good shape lately he'd probably only have to drop 40 or 50 pounds, he's not slurring his words, it would be a classic fight. Or Bob can have Vernon Forrest or Arturo Gatti exhumed, maybe even fly in the corpse of Alexis Arguello assuming they can get it a visa and it agrees to a catchweight. Now those are fights people would pay to see - not Marquez or Mayweather.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Re: The Official... Manny Pacquiao, Freddy Roach, and Bob Arum are full of shit Threa

Maybe after they beat Mosley up who knows....maybe then a fight with Sugar Ray Leonard, assuming he'd sign to Top Rank and meet at a catchweight of 141 and 3/4's. Ray's been looking in good shape lately he'd probably only have to drop 40 or 50 pounds, he's not slurring his words, it would be a classic fight. Or Bob can have Vernon Forrest or Arturo Gatti exhumed, maybe even fly in the corpse of Alexis Arguello assuming they can get it a visa and it agrees to a catchweight. Now those are fights people would pay to see - not Marquez or Mayweather.

exactly... except I was thinking more Apollo Creed or Clubber Lang.

 

[mumra]

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that bullshit talk bout pac fighting the winner of cotto-margarito is 2 much smh

 

[merce77]

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exactly... except I was thinking more Apollo Creed or Clubber Lang.

Nah sun, THUNDERLIPS

 

[TJervey]

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Maybe after they beat Mosley up who knows....maybe then a fight with Sugar Ray Leonard, assuming he'd sign to Top Rank and meet at a catchweight of 141 and 3/4's. Ray's been looking in good shape lately he'd probably only have to drop 40 or 50 pounds, he's not slurring his words, it would be a classic fight. Or Bob can have Vernon Forrest or Arturo Gatti exhumed, maybe even fly in the corpse of Alexis Arguello assuming they can get it a visa and it agrees to a catchweight. Now those are fights people would pay to see - not Marquez or Mayweather.

Nah, I'll be posting a link soon, word is, they are looking at Kostya Tszyu or Sharmba Mitchell at 147. Both are in pretty good shape, actually, Tszyu approached Roach about the fight. Mitchell is the front runner, but he needs a tune up fight first...

 

[merce77]

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Nah, I'll be posting a link soon, word is, they are looking at Kostya Tszyu or Sharmba Mitchell at 147. Both are in pretty good shape, actually, Tszyu approached Roach about the fight. Mitchell is the front runner, but he needs a tune up fight first...

Man I could just see Manny knocking the piss out of Kostya ALL NIGHT - and then Kostya landing that ONE shot(Manny's defense is poor) and we'd see Pacman's version of the Judah shuffle. Sharmba was just too much of a boxer for Manny, they would have kept Manny away from Mitchell.

 

[gc2diaz]

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that bullshit talk bout pac fighting the winner of cotto-margarito is 2 much smh

this is never gonna happen arum and roach are protecting their investment. cotto has steward training him now and steward has stated before that he knows how to beat pac and that he could do it with cotto, plus he ain't gonna go for that catch weight bullshit that the pac camp put in as stipulation.

 

[$Money_XXL]

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Wow, Mosley? Pac is a good fighter but he has been matched so well in his career too, they're catching his opponents at the decline of their careers, except for maybe Clottey who did nothing but hugged, majority of Pac's opponents were past their primes.

JMM is the best fight outside of PBF but I don't expect them to take it now, they'll take it one day maybe early 2012 when he's obviously past his prime. Age wise he has but his skills are so great that he can still hang around longer for 2 more years.

He'll fight twice in 2011...Shane and then someone else then he'd go for JMM in 2012.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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How dare you?

Pac is the great warrior.

Who cares that he is fighting bums as long as he is fighting, right?

You're talking like any (recent) good opponent that he has had is coming off of bad loses before he fights them.

I mean its not like he has an opponent that is a challenge and he walked away from negotiations.

You are bugging.

How dare you guys?

Pac is the great warrior

Manny is too big for Marquez.... He so big that he has been meeting most of his opponent at catch weights to give them more speed.

Marquez is slipping anyways, you didn't see it when he stopped his last opponent after beating him to the punch all night.

I mean Pac already beat Marquez and its not like trilogies are a long recognized staple of boxing.

Shane on the other hand, had a tougher opponent and put on the performance of his life to get a draw. He is looking great... no sign of aging. Just imagine if that Shane had fought Berto, he would have crush Berto cause Berto is nowhere on the level of Mora.

Which is the reason why Berto isn't even in the debate. Plus, Berto would be an option if people knew him like they know Clottey.

You guys are bugging.

They don't hear you, Alaska.

I stand corrected........

Well, this guy does. Welcome to the Co-Sign Crew.

Look these are our opinions.... it doesn't matter that these opinions aren't in the realm of "common" sense, because this is how we see it..... the co-sign crew doesn't have to agree.

Maybe after they beat Mosley up who knows....maybe then a fight with Sugar Ray Leonard, assuming he'd sign to Top Rank and meet at a catchweight of 141 and 3/4's. Ray's been looking in good shape lately he'd probably only have to drop 40 or 50 pounds, he's not slurring his words, it would be a classic fight. Or Bob can have Vernon Forrest or Arturo Gatti exhumed, maybe even fly in the corpse of Alexis Arguello assuming they can get it a visa and it agrees to a catchweight. Now those are fights people would pay to see - not Marquez or Mayweather.

STFU!!!!

 

[merce77]

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STFU!!!!

Why are you laughing at me Dave? This is real talk here.
It's not like Marquez has done anything to earn another shot at Pac, let him come up and dominate another division and then maybe they'll talk to him if he cleans out 140 and beats some REAL fighters, it's not even like Manny can make 140 anymore. I mean he already weighed a whopping 4 pounds over 140 the night of the Margarito fight and he couldn't even go in the ring on a full stomach to do that. It would be too much of a drain. And Mayweather is clearly afraid of Pacquiao, frontin like he came out of retirement just to get the Manny fight and all those millions and then whup Marquez ass just to prove a point. All Manny did was ask for his gloves, catchweight, 20 mil for every pound over the limit, ring size etc.. and then Floyd has the NERVE, the AUDACITY, the GALL to ask for a drug test.He's clearly afraid, and Pac clearly has nothing to hide, jumping 3 divisions in a couple of years is normal.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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Why are you laughing at me Dave? This is real talk here.
It's not like Marquez has done anything to earn another shot at Pac, let him come up and dominate another division and then maybe they'll talk to him if he cleans out 140 and beats some REAL fighters, it's not even like Manny can make 140 anymore. I mean he already weighed a whopping 4 pounds over 140 the night of the Margarito fight and he couldn't even go in the ring on a full stomach to do that. It would be too much of a drain. And Mayweather is clearly afraid of Pacquiao, frontin like he came out of retirement just to get the Manny fight and all those millions and then whup Marquez ass just to prove a point. All Manny did was ask for his gloves, catchweight, 20 mil for every pound over the limit, ring size etc.. and then Floyd has the NERVE, the AUDACITY, the GALL to ask for a drug test.He's clearly afraid, and Pac clearly has nothing to hide, jumping 3 divisions in a couple of years is normal.

I apologize for my dismissiveness. I'm working on that.

So I'll change that from STFU!!!

to

STFU!!
see the difference.

 

[merce77]

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I apologize for my dismissiveness. I'm working on that.

So I'll change that from STFU!!!

to

STFU!!
see the difference.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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[Rick Ronson]

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at Manny Steward trying to steer Pac away from Shane for whatever reason.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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at Manny Steward trying to steer Pac away from Shane for whatever reason.

No mystery. It's a shitty fight with better alternatives available for Pacquiao.

 

[Firefox]

Maybe after they beat Mosley up who knows....maybe then a fight with Sugar Ray Leonard, assuming he'd sign to Top Rank and meet at a catchweight of 141 and 3/4's. Ray's been looking in good shape lately he'd probably only have to drop 40 or 50 pounds, he's not slurring his words, it would be a classic fight. Or Bob can have Vernon Forrest or Arturo Gatti exhumed, maybe even fly in the corpse of Alexis Arguello assuming they can get it a visa and it agrees to a catchweight. Now those are fights people would pay to see - not Marquez or Mayweather.

Lmao!

 

[Alaskanredman]

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Look I want to see Pac move up and fight heavyweight Otis Tisdale. If they can do that there will be no question that he's is our P4P and GOAT. Floyd will be an after thought...

 

[merce77]

Re: The Official... Manny Pacquiao, Freddy Roach, and Bob Arum are full of shit Threa

Look I want to see Pac move up and fight heavyweight Otis Tisdale. If they can do that there will be no question that he's is our P4P and GOAT. Floyd will be an after thought...

I'd rather a tag team match with the Klitschkos, then he has to win the UFC heavyweight championship as well, or maybe a fight with Anderson Silva.

 

[Alaskanredman]

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I'd rather a tag team match with the Klitschkos, then he has to win the UFC heavyweight championship as well, or maybe a fight with Anderson Silva.

I wish they would come back with more dumb opinions that I can make fun of... I was actual starting to get interested in what they had to say for comedy

 

[merce77]

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I wish they would come back with more dumb opinions that I can make fun of... I was actual starting to get interested in what they had to say for comedy

The fact that they didn't even enter the thread says it all.