I can't get over the hype of this battle...one week out...
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Yea Im getting hype fo this cass vs diz shit..
but the closer it gets, I can see diz coming hard first
round but unless he comes up with some really hard hitting
personals..
I see him over barring himself and cassidy coming at him, with
hard hitting simple clean bars
but the closer it gets, I can see diz coming hard first
round but unless he comes up with some really hard hitting
personals..
I see him over barring himself and cassidy coming at him, with
hard hitting simple clean bars
Why do you guys feel these PG battle rappers are not being appreciated by fans to the same extent as these guys that are considered the top-top cats? It ain't lack of talent. Some of these guys - e.g. Showoff; Brizz Rawsteen - are talented as fuck.
SMACK is almost forced to give us the same guys, because no one gives enough of a fuck about these other guys.
For instance, John John, B Magic, Chilla, JC, and maybe a few other names I'm missing have been giving a chance...
...but fans don't care ENOUGH for Smack to make them the HEADLINERS.
URL is going to run into some major issues sooner or later if they don't get fans interested in these newer guys. They will run out of matchups.
If you put Brizz against T-Top on Summer Madness, as crazy as that matchup is, it won't come CLOSE to doing the numbers that Hollow vs Clips would. No one can tell me that there is a difference in quality between those two battles.
SMACK is almost forced to give us the same guys, because no one gives enough of a fuck about these other guys.
For instance, John John, B Magic, Chilla, JC, and maybe a few other names I'm missing have been giving a chance...
...but fans don't care ENOUGH for Smack to make them the HEADLINERS.
URL is going to run into some major issues sooner or later if they don't get fans interested in these newer guys. They will run out of matchups.
If you put Brizz against T-Top on Summer Madness, as crazy as that matchup is, it won't come CLOSE to doing the numbers that Hollow vs Clips would. No one can tell me that there is a difference in quality between those two battles.
It's the PG guys own fault.
A. We may disagree but I do think the talent pool sucks. Mostly because they're doing it based on being a battler and most of them are trying to copy styles they've grown up seeing.
B. They are rarely doing any promo for themselves. Back a few years ago, Goodz, Verb, Clips, DNA, Hollow- all those guys do blogs and ciphers. These new guys don't.
C. They rely on trying to battle the established guys instead of having classics among themselves. There's enough of them that they should've all battled more than once or twice this year. They're sitting around waiting on a shot at the big stage when the other guys MADE the big stage.
When they treat these PGs like just any old battler what do they expect the fans to do? Most fans are going to do the same thing. The URL doesn't show loyalty to or interest in truly developing these guys into the top of the game. Ill Will is a good example. He went from Smack referring to him as one of his 2 "shooters" to losing to DNA(his own fault) to being done with the URL after his SM4 opponent didn't show up. How is that his fault? That doesn't even include them not booking these guys for battles once they have a buzz for 6 months.The UFF battle between Ha Double vs Sno was dropped in March. Ha wasn't seen again in the URL until the end of September and Sno hasn't had a URL battle since and he won the tourney. And then they say that battles elsewhere don't count which too many idiot fans by into so even if a PG goes back to his home league and kills shit most fans aren't trying to pay attention or give credit to that.
A. Let's be real. At this point everybody copies everybody. Some people like John John are blatant but everybody started doing slow it downs like Conceited even established people like Surf bit that. Or resaying the bar and explaining it like Cortez.
B. This is true but outside of a few guys(mainly the guys you mentioned) most top guys don't do blogs anymore. I've seen Young Kannon, M Ciddy, Ah di Boom and Danny Myers do blogs and none of them are even close to top tier other than Myers.
C. I've seen more classics and great battles amongst non top tier guys than I have amongst top tiers and that's taking the last 3 years into account. These guys have had better battles amongst themselves that the guys 1 and 2 levels above them. And now with URL signing these guys to contracts they get less of a chance to battle. Ah di Boom was supposed to battle JC months ago. The URL nixed that and instead we got a very good battle from JC and Ah di Boom's replacement Syah Boy.
The URL needs to especially if they're going to sign these guys to contracts that limit their battles to do more stuff like they did for Summer Madness 4 where they have 2 days worth of battles. The main event card and then the card for the up and comers. And have more events as well.
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Most everybody copies for sure but these guys have to take into account that they're coming into it now that there are HUNDREDS of battle rappers. Now the new guys mostly do that same word association reach shit because not many have found a way to be DIFFERENT. If you're not gonna be different the whats the point? I'll just watch the guy you're copying. Jon Jon still gets hated on but he earned his spot in an earlier time.
The ones who have the spots have them. They have followings.
They got them when they did blogs and whatever it was they did to promote themselves. Granted it was easier then cuz not as many people were doing it.
This is why Danny Is doing well, cuz he made the decision not to sigh to url. This whole year has been an experiment to see if URLs promise of the big stage and a schedule would be worth it. I think it's shown to NOT be. These guys need to be free to hit any league and get their name up. The URL is the most respected stage right now but that could change if the talent we say exists goes somewhere else and gets it poppin. AR's league seems to be the start of that.
JC has been working but they won't put him on that big stage anymore. Danny is poppin and I think he's about to be undeniable for it. Trust, the URL will have to bend its policies once they see others advancing. It's just business.
I think they WANT to showcase the smaller names but then smaller names may have a great performance in the smaller rooms, but once they get to the main stage- usually not so good. You saw what happened to Chilla and Ill Will.
The older names got to develop because there were pen slots. Some of them have come more into their own because of it. clips, hit man, surf, Arsonal, DNa, Tay rock, etc.
Some of them should be dropped. Big T, Suge, dudes like that.
I think the URL originally intended to replace the whole top tier lineup with "bars over names" but them new guys showed that the pressure is just as bad on them. And the older guys felt that pressure and stepped up. Cortez and Clips come to mind.
It's just fun watching it all develop. I admit I'm not a big fan of any guy from This year yet. It typically seems like there's always one or two special ones and they get in the mix with the top tiers.i still think Ill will is one of them.
Every NOME and SM card has the SAME battlers.
Its clear that SMACK/URL is forced to recycle these guys or people won't show up.
You don't think SMACK/URL wouldn't prefer to promote the younger guys over the older guys who will battle any and everywhere?
They tried 'bars over names' and these fans have proven they only care about names.
SMACK is going to run into trouble coming up with matchups soon if they can't generate A LOT more interest in the newer talent.
Its clear that SMACK/URL is forced to recycle these guys or people won't show up.
You don't think SMACK/URL wouldn't prefer to promote the younger guys over the older guys who will battle any and everywhere?
They tried 'bars over names' and these fans have proven they only care about names.
SMACK is going to run into trouble coming up with matchups soon if they can't generate A LOT more interest in the newer talent.
I look at more as a cycle than a complete overhaul every year.
We should see Ill Will up there AGAIN, until he really becomes who he's gonna be up there. Bring up JC again, if that's who people wanna see. Bring Chilla back. Get rid of Big T, Suge, any of those guys. Put Danny in the game.
The top tier guys still had match ups that people wanna see and most of the slots are filled, BUT, there's a slot of two for a new comers here and there. DNA is great at being a gateway for new guys to see if they're ready to headline.
But to just make a card full of Adi Booms, Prez Mafias, xcel, and all those guys... No way. That's why they had the undercard the day before. And they release those battles during the same time as SM and NOME so those people get their names mentioned in the same breath.
This whole thing is new so of course some things are gonna not be as each of us expects.
I think Smack is kind of in a position to be a UFC even more than he intended and he may have intended.
They can snatch up the big names from other leagues and make them URL headliners. But we're still in what, year 4?
Take a look at the UFC during that time. In a few years, SMACK may not even be the premiere league. I hope he is though.
This pg class not diverse. Think about Bill Collector, Qleen Paper, B Magic, JJDD, and JC. None of them sounded alike, all wanted to kill each other, and had personality. This pg class all sound the same and wanna move up before they even run through each other.
Right. They literally NEVER mention battling EACH OTHER. They all wanna hit the main stage.
Plus, list me the classics in the PGs.
I got chilla vs JC
THATS IT.
I'm sure there are others but they aren't coming to mind. Help me out.
I know y'all are familiar with T-Dubb-O from the Lou. If you check out his battles, you probably would've never guessed he was on this. The brotha is actually pretty sharp when he drop his rap persona.
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Smack wanted these battle emcees to sign 'exclusive contracts' with URL that prevents them from battling in other leagues. Some did. Like TayRock. But alot of them (who had some 'name recognition' already) did not. Like Danny Myers.
That's why Smack is recycling. Because emcees who want to battle on Total Slaughter or KOTD also do not get 'priority' anymore.
Combine that with the guys that Smack signed who don't want to battle certain emcees and you have a much smaller pool of talent to create matchups with.
That's why Smack is recycling. Because emcees who want to battle on Total Slaughter or KOTD also do not get 'priority' anymore.
Combine that with the guys that Smack signed who don't want to battle certain emcees and you have a much smaller pool of talent to create matchups with.
Qleen and B Magic and the one you mentioned are the only ones i remember far as pg classics
QP vs B Magic
B Magic vs JJDD
Ha Double vs Anubis
Nuborn vs Superwriter
Syah Boy vs Lotta Zay
They may not be classics but they're really good battles that are better than most top tier battles. And allegedly Gutta vs Gjonaj is supposed to be really good.
Plus how is it that KOTD got Clips vs Conceited but URL didn't or that KOTD has B Magic about to battle Pass? URL couldn't come up with a fresh matchup like that?
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Yeah those are ok, but no better than the big stage battles. I would only rewatch one of those.
Nuborn is finally getting his due. I didn't fuck with him til recently. Still not sure he can be on the big stage.
And look, 2 of those people you named have been in the big stage for the last 2 years at least. b Magic is a staple now and so is Jon Jon. I think JJDD kinda peaked out this year though.
Thanks for that Lotta Zay/Syah Boy joint. I had not seen that one. Lotta is one of my other favorites.
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Lmao now they got BIZZY BONE on the ETHER card.
No announcement on who he's gonna battle.
No announcement on who he's gonna battle.
I thought it was supposed to be Cali Boy Smoove?
I thought that Cali Boy Smoove is supposed to be battling Caustic on that card.
Don't know how I forgot to post this! Joint I produced for Head Ice called "Colors"
https://soundcloud.com/head-i-c-e/colors-head-ice
https://soundcloud.com/head-i-c-e/colors-head-ice
UFF battle that BET put up early(possibly accidentally)
Brizz Rawstein vs Anubis
http://www.bet.com/video/106andpark...iday/2014/season-3/battle-4-round-1-3548.html
Replace the 1 with 2 and 3 to see the other rounds.
Brizz Rawstein vs Anubis
http://www.bet.com/video/106andpark...iday/2014/season-3/battle-4-round-1-3548.html
Replace the 1 with 2 and 3 to see the other rounds.
Tic...tock
Who you got?
Who you got?
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Yooooo, that nigga t-top is a motherfucking problem!!!!
Gooooooooooooooooooooood daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!!!!
Gooooooooooooooooooooood daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!!!!
T Top vs little Chess is going to be a good one.
Damn TTop didnt have to do that to him..
Philly....we need this win bad
reed ness
Lmao naw bruh. You'll be waiting longer.
Btw BIZZY Bone tweeted and let the cat out of the bag. Math is in the hotel w Casssidy.
I think it was supposed to be a surprise but Bizzy wanted to tweet to tell everyone how good the bars he just heard from Cassidy were. Dummy mentioned that Math was there too.
He didn't. Dude was totally outclassed.
That Christian shit in an aggressive sport ain't gonna get you no where. You can be Christian but that ant got nothing to do with takin a niggas head off lyrically. There's simply no reason to even bring up what religion you are in a battle lol. For every holy bar he spit, T Top took a hot steaming dump on it with witty gangsta shit.
He played it perfectly. Might be the best i seen T Top in a while. It was the first time i ever saw the other cat. He wasn't that bad but i was like Damn he getting battered right now.