Amway or Scamway

black-n-tan said:
Its always the same thing with you cats, you preach how great your business is and when people fail, you blame them.
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Why shouldn't people be blamed for their own failure? Why do you think you should be guaranteed success in business?

That's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that people should succeed regardless of their aptitude or dedication. If you don't know how to market or how to talk to people, why should you succeed anyway? As I said before, most people who try to run a business will fail, why do you think it should be better in this particular genre?

Most people who try network marketing are lazy as fuck and don't know shit, they definitely don't "deserve" to succeed.

The FACT is most people fail because they never get good at it, but there are tons of people who succeed. But let's just pretend that this a multi-billion dollar industry with no success stories.

All that being said, 1 year from now, even if YOU are successful at this, statistically ALL of the stans cheering you on today will be quiet or gone.
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Once again, your stats are based on pure bullshit. Most people who learn how to market make MORE money over time, not less. The only people who make a little money and quit are those who only made money by marketing to friends/family.

Even if successful people do quit a particular program, it's usually only to join a newer/better program.

Amway has been around for decades and has been constantly growing, yet you conveniently try to keep referring to it like some sort of fly by night scheme.

Secondly, I'm diversifying and own in a multitude of businesses. Stop praying on niggas downfalls, hating ass nigga.
 
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jgarner484 said:
There's a book about a guy who made it to the top levels of Amway that I read about a year ago, and how it destroyed his life. True, its only one man's account, but its a good read. It's a little long, but still a good read. So do your research and make your own decision

http://archive.org/details/MerchantsOfDeception
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I'm not in Amway, but how many lawyers, dentists and doctors kill themselves? It's all biased bullshit to try to totally ignore all the people who do well and have a good life in programs like these.

To act as if everyone who joins such a program is broke or miserable is a pure lie perpetuated by those who ain't worth shit. I know TONS of people who make good money and have it easy in network marketing.

If you're not in the circle, you don't know what you're talking about.
 
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Q004 said:
I'm not in Amway, but how many lawyers, dentists and doctors kill themselves? It's all biased bullshit to try to totally ignore all the people who do well and have a good life in programs like these.

To act as if everyone who joins such a program is broke or miserable is a pure lie perpetuated by those who ain't worth shit. I know TONS of people who make good money and have it easy in network marketing.
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"Tons" :lol:
Either they're lying or you are
Statements like that is what leads me to believe
you are full of shit or I guess you live in
MLM Valley.

Bottomline NO ONE said you CAN'T Make money from it.
But if you look at the "Business Structure" it's flawed
it's set up for the company benefit Win or Lose
 
An RnB Thug said:
"Tons" :lol:
Either they're lying or you are
Statements like that is what leads me to believe
you are full of shit or I guess you live in
MLM Valley.
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So you're saying that it's a multi-billion dollar industry with no one who makes money? :hmm: :lol: That's retard level of hating.

I made a grand yesterday and I ain't do nothing but browse the net and bullshit while my girl finalized getting a phone line for my new dealership. Shut the fuck up when grown men are telling you shit youngin.

I know a lot of successful people because I'm connected.
 
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An RnB Thug said:
Bottomline NO ONE said you CAN'T Make money from it.
But if you look at the "Business Structure" it's flawed
it's set up for the company benefit Win or Lose
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Once again, this is bullshit. There are tons of people all across America who all make a good living working MLMs. As I've stated, most people don't, but that's simply because they aren't good, not because it's that difficult.
 
Q004 said:
Once again, this is bullshit. There are tons of people all across America who all make a good living working MLMs. As I've stated, most people don't, but that's simply because they aren't good, not because it's that difficult.
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Listen, 97% of the People Fail
and 99% of the Companies Fail
If you don't believe those figures
look them up. But those are accurate REAL numbers
You have TONS of successful drug dealers across the
America too, does that mean it's a good industry?
No, it's a crash and burn process
 
An RnB Thug said:
Listen, 97% of the People Fail
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Over 90% of businesses fail dumb ass, and the vast majority of people who join an MLM quit immediately.

and 99% of the Companies Fail
If you don't believe those figures
look them up. But those are accurate REAL numbers
You have TONS of successful drug dealers across teh
America too, does that mean it's a good industry?
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How many people create a website that fails? How many people try to sing, rap, open up a restaurant or any kind of business that fail?

I guess no one should aspire to do anything but work a 9 to 5 :hmm:

The FACT is that people who are good don't fail. The FACT is that the industry wouldn't generate billions upon billions of dollars if there weren't many successful people.
 
Q004 said:
So you're saying that it's a multi-billion dollar industry with no one who makes money? :hmm: :lol: That's retard level of hating.

I made a grand yesterday and I ain't do nothing but browse the net and bullshit while my girl finalized getting a phone line for my new dealership. Shut the fuck up when grown men are telling you shit youngin.

I know a lot of successful people because I'm connected.
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Just read this dumb shit you just wrote. You have no idea who you talking to homeboy. I know I make more money than you
on the net. Shit, I even hooked up a few cats from here.
So and your Adsense, Amway or what ever bullshit you doing.
MLM...GTFOHWTBS
You connected to a fantasy
 
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An RnB Thug said:
Just read this dumb shit you just wrote. You have no idea who you talking to homeboy. I know I make more money than you
on the net. Shit, I even hooked up a few cats from here.
So so your Adsense, Amway or what ever bullshit you doing.
MLM...GTFOHWTBS
You connected to a fantasy
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Shut your dumb ass up nigga.... you obviously don't make money on the net or you wouldn't be saying the dumb ass shit you're saying. I'm living lovely and I know plenty of niggas who make cake, you don't, so you're obviously not connected to shit.

You're reciting stats with no frame of reference, I'm talking about MONEY I'VE MADE AND MONEY I'VE SEEN MY FRIENDS MAKE. I'm giving first hand experience, you're talking out of your ass.
 
Did you know that over 99% of websites FAIL and never make money?

Building a website is a SCAM you guys. :rolleyes:
 
Q004 said:
Did you know that over 99% of websites FAIL and never make money?

Building a website is a SCAM you guys. :rolleyes:
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No one is promising anyone the moon and the stars for starting a web site. No one is arguing like their livelihood depends on it for creating a web site like you are for Amway. I think Amway has been around long enough to know who can and who cannot cut it in the MLM world so why drag those people who can't cut it in? Why aren't these people being taught? Honestly, I think there is a way into the Amway business where you can step in at a high level instead of starting from the bottom, but that hasn't been presented to anyone I know.
 
Deuterion said:
Now you're just trolling.
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I'm not trolling. 99% of people who try to make a website that makes money fail. According to the logic in this thread, telling a person to build a website is a scam solely based on the failure rate.
 
black-n-tan said:
No one is promising anyone the moon and the stars for starting a web site. No one is arguing like their livelihood depends on it for creating a web site like you are for Amway. I think Amway has been around long enough to know who can and who cannot cut it in the MLM world so why drag those people who can't cut it in? Why aren't these people being taught? Honestly, I think there is a way into the Amway business where you can step in at a high level instead of starting from the bottom, but that hasn't been presented to anyone I know.
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Well I can agree that MLM's exceedingly high failure rate is mostly attributed to having no filter. If you have enough money to pay to enter a program, then you're in.

However, I can tell from a mile away that the vast majority of people who sign up to such programs aren't qualified and will never make money. Has little to do with whether the program itself works or not.
 
Q004 said:
Shut your dumb ass up nigga.... you obviously don't make money on the net or you wouldn't be saying the dumb ass shit you're saying. I'm living lovely and I know plenty of niggas who make cake, you don't, so you're obviously not connected to shit.

You're reciting stats with no frame of reference, I'm talking about MONEY I'VE MADE AND MONEY I'VE SEEN MY FRIENDS MAKE. I'm giving first hand experience, you're talking out of your ass.
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I don't make money on the Net?
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Thanks you just made my year!!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I make money the REAL way
not begging bums to sign up to
bullshit and having them find more bums
 
Q004 said:
Well I can agree that MLM's exceedingly high failure rate is mostly attributed to having no filter. If you have enough money to pay to enter a program, then you're in.

However, I can tell from a mile away that the vast majority of people who sign up to such programs aren't gonna BUY in to the Bullshit and will never make money. Has little to do with whether the program itself works or not.
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Q004 said:
Well I can agree that MLM's exceedingly high failure rate is mostly attributed to having no filter. If you have enough money to pay to enter a program, then you're in.

However, I can tell from a mile away that the vast majority of people who sign up to such programs aren't qualified and will never make money. Has little to do with whether the program itself works or not.
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I am sure you CAN tell! So why drag these poor slobs along? So how much money do you have to pay to enter a program.
 
Q004 said:
Did you know that over 99% of websites FAIL and never make money?

Building a website is a SCAM you guys. :rolleyes:
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Deuterion said:
Now you're just trolling.
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He's a brain washed fool who has apparently bought
in to the MLM Pyramid.
I remember I went to a Herbalife meeting back in 95'
they were some brain washed dummies there...Hahaha
Lawyers talking about how they left the firm to
sell Herbalife Full time. But sadly that's what is needed to
make "tons" of money....for the company that is
 
An RnB Thug said:
I don't make money on the Net?
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Thanks you just made my year!!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
I make money the REAL way
not begging bums to sign up to
bullshit and having them find more bums
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Faggot, I guarantee you that I make more money than you and I don't beg anyone for shit.
 
black-n-tan said:
I am sure you CAN tell! So why drag these poor slobs along? So how much money do you have to pay to enter a program.
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The stuff I push is free to enter... but the biggest reason why there's no filter is people don't want to turn anyone away and a person can make money if they truly apply themselves but most won't.

There's about 3-4 guys on bgol that I signed up last year that are still making good money to this day. I wasn't certain when I signed them up that they would be good, but you usually can't fully tell what type of grinder a person will be until AFTER you sign them up.
 
An RnB Thug said:
He's a brain washed fool who has apparently bought
in to the MLM Pyramid.
I remember I went to a Herbalife meeting back in 95'
they were some brain washed dummies there...Hahaha
Lawyers talking about how they left the firm to
sell Herbalife Full time. But sadly that's what is needed to
make "tons" of money....for the company that is
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It's called system jumping dumb ass. A lot of MLM companies die not because they stop working, but because the top marketers either create their own system or go to a newer/better opportunity.
 
Q004 said:
It's called system jumping dumb ass. A lot of MLM companies die not because they stop working, but because the top marketers either create their own system or go to a newer/better opportunity.
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Q004 said:
Let me guess, you don't know about this phenomena because you have absolutely no experience with what you're talking about.
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I KNOW ABOUT it cause I have a:
B.A. in Marketing from Long Island University – C.W. Post Campus With a concentration in International Marketing
Worked For an Advertising Firm and a Reputable Marketing Firm For a combined 15 years.
Any Other Stupid Questions?
 
An RnB Thug said:
I KNOW ABOUT it cause I have a:
B.A. in Marketing from Long Island University – C.W. Post Campus With a concentration in International Marketing
Worked For an Advertising Firm and a Reputable Marketing Firm For a combined 15 years.
Any Other Stupid Questions?
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None of that is related to network marketing. So you have ZERO experience in it. The very fact that you suggested that I have to BEG people to make money let's me know that you are totally ignorant to the fact that many of the top earners don't even talk to most of the people they make money off. The fact that you don't know that marketers frequently jump to different programs so they can hit up their mailing list further lets me know that you are completely ignorant.

I make a six figure income sitting on my fucking bed, sipping mixed drinks and entertaining guests. I'm far from a bum, you dumb ass nigga.
 
Q004 said:
None of that is related to network marketing. So you have ZERO experience in it. The very fact that you suggested that I have to BEG people to make money let's me know that you are totally ignorant to the fact that many of the top earners don't even talk to most of the people they make money off. The fact that you don't know that marketers frequently jump to different programs so they can hit up their pass mailing list further lets me know that you are completely ignorant.

I make a six figure income sitting on my fucking bed, sipping mixed drinks and entertaining guests. I'm far from a bum, you dumb ass nigga.
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Yawnnnn, You think I don't know about MLM's? Stop calling it
network marketing cause that's a word that was created in the last
decade to hide the fact that it's a MLM company.
I know every trick, scheme and hustle...trust me
 
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An RnB Thug said:
Yawnnnn, You think I don't know about MLM's? Stop calling it
network marketing cause that's a word that was created in the last
decade to hide tha fact that it's a MLM company.
I know every trick, scheme and hustle...trust me
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I know Amway is an MLM, I'm not in an MLM, but I do network marketing and MLMs do operate of the network marketing principle and I know plenty of people in them. I know plenty of people who make better than average incomes.

You're not industry, don't know successful people in the industry and are totally unqualified for this conversation.

That you'd sit up and pretend that billions of dollars are generated without there being a lot of successful people proves that you're a buffoon.
 
Q004 said:
I know Amway is an MLM, I'm not in an MLM, but I do network marketing and MLMs do operate of the network marketing principle and I know plenty of people in them. I know plenty of people who make better than average incomes.

You're not industry, not stupid enough to be in the industry and are totally unqualified for this conversation.
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