Re: Barack Obama, proven leadership and judgement
That statement is not even close to being true. Check your facts.
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Re: Barack Obama, proven leadership and judgement
Better still Deuterion, after you check your facts Bro, how about showing us how you arrived at that conclusion.
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Deuterion said:
That statement is not even close to being true. Check your facts.
Better still Deuterion, after you check your facts Bro, how about showing us how you arrived at that conclusion.
QueEx
Re: Barack Obama, proven leadership and judgement
Huh?
Uh... yeah, dude. What they said.
That statement is not even close to being true. Check your facts.
Huh?
Uh... yeah, dude. What they said.
Re: Barack Obama, proven leadership and judgement
Not even close to being true is that right?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/chi-0409250111sep25,1,4555304.story
We don't need to be messing with them at all and any attack such as a missle strike is gonna get us in a lot of trouble. Iran is not Iraq and they can touch us.
That statement is not even close to being true. Check your facts.
Huh?
Uh... yeah, dude. What they said.
Not even close to being true is that right?
ChicagoTribune.com said:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/chi-0409250111sep25,1,4555304.story
We don't need to be messing with them at all and any attack such as a missle strike is gonna get us in a lot of trouble. Iran is not Iraq and they can touch us.
Re: Barack Obama, proven leadership and judgement
Thats one (1) of the reasons I like Obama. As a democrat, he doesn't appear to be timid on national defense issues. I don't think the man is looking to bomb anything; but I do believe that he would act decisively to protect our vital interest, whatever they may be. Don't let the war in Iraq or the Bush administration fuck-ups in general color the fact that the Chinese, Russians and every other country on the planet act in what is perceived as their best interest. Its okay to speak softly and carry a big dick.
QueEx
Thats one (1) of the reasons I like Obama. As a democrat, he doesn't appear to be timid on national defense issues. I don't think the man is looking to bomb anything; but I do believe that he would act decisively to protect our vital interest, whatever they may be. Don't let the war in Iraq or the Bush administration fuck-ups in general color the fact that the Chinese, Russians and every other country on the planet act in what is perceived as their best interest. Its okay to speak softly and carry a big dick.
QueEx
Re: Barack Obama; Aims, & Finally Fires -can he hit the target??
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Re: Barack Obama; Aims, & Finally Fires -can he hit the target??
This dude actually scares me. He said what I have said on this board all along that Bush alone did not wage war and he is not the only one to be blamed. I hope he doesn't really intend to push his rhetoric further than the campaigning if he does become president because it seems as though he is heading into the direction where we would be alienating our allies. He and the Democrats have said that Bush has gotten the rest of the world to hate us and based on Obama's rhetoric he seems he might be alienating the allies.
What is the full plan after he has closed the base?
Where will terrorist be housed?
What methods of extracting information from terrorist will we have? Since it will be public info that our soldiers/military/CIA/FBI whatever don't have any real means of extracting information because its illegal then why should the terrorist divulge any information.
This dude actually scares me. He said what I have said on this board all along that Bush alone did not wage war and he is not the only one to be blamed. I hope he doesn't really intend to push his rhetoric further than the campaigning if he does become president because it seems as though he is heading into the direction where we would be alienating our allies. He and the Democrats have said that Bush has gotten the rest of the world to hate us and based on Obama's rhetoric he seems he might be alienating the allies.
What is the full plan after he has closed the base?
Where will terrorist be housed?
What methods of extracting information from terrorist will we have? Since it will be public info that our soldiers/military/CIA/FBI whatever don't have any real means of extracting information because its illegal then why should the terrorist divulge any information.
Re: Barack Obama; Aims, & Finally Fires -can he hit the target??
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Re: Is Obama to smart for us?
<font size="5"><center>Obama makes big gains among black voters</font size></center>
By Paul Steinhauser
CNN deputy political director
January 18, 2008
(CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton has lost a large amount of support among African-Americans, with a majority of black Democrats now supporting Sen. Barack Obama, according to a new poll out Friday.
In a national survey by CNN/Opinion Research Corp., 59 percent of black Democrats backed Obama, an Illinois Democrat, for their party's presidential nomination, with 31 percent supporting Clinton, the senator from New York.
The 28 point lead for Obama is a major reversal from October, when Clinton held a 24 point lead among black Democrats.
"There's been a huge shift among African-American Democrats from Clinton to Obama. African-American Democrats used to be reluctant to support Obama because they didn't think a black man could be elected. Then Obama won Iowa and nearly won New Hampshire. Now they believe," said Bill Schneider, CNN senior political analyst.
"Obama's lead over Clinton among black men is more than 50 points, and among black women, once a Clinton stronghold, Obama has an 11 point advantage," said CNN polling director Keating Holland.
It also appears the recent bickering between Clinton and Obama and their campaigns over race has hurt both candidates. Clinton has the support of 42 percent of all registered Democrats in the new survey, down seven points from last week's CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll. Obama has the backing of 33 percent of those questioned, down three percentage points in a week.
The beneficiary appears to be former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who jumped 5 points, to 17 percent.
"Why have Clinton and Obama both lost support over the past week? One word: squabbling. If two candidates get into a fight, the third candidate usually gains. Sure enough, John Edwards gained," Schneider said.
Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio is at 3 percent in the new poll, with former Sen. Mike Gravel of Alaska with support of less than 0.5 percent.
When all voters nationwide are asked to evaluate the major candidates in both parties, only one Republican candidate, McCain, fares well on issues and personal qualities. Most registered voters say Clinton and Obama -- as well as McCain -- have the necessary leadership skills and vision to be president. But most voters don't feel that way about Romney, Giuliani and Huckabee.
The same is true on issues. A majority of registered voters nationwide say McCain, Obama and Clinton agree with them on issues that matter, but a majority of voters disagree with Romney, Giuliani and Huckabee on important issues.
The economy continues to top the list of the public's biggest concerns, with Iraq, terrorism and health care not far behind. Four in 10 Americans now say the economy is in good shape, down 6 points since December and 14 points since the fall. Nearly six in 10, 59 percent, say the economy is in poor shape.
Regarding Iraq, the number of Americans who say things are going well for the U.S. has jumped 12 points since November, to 46 percent. Support for the war has grown 3 points in the same time.
The poll involved interviews with 1,393 adult Americans, including 448 registered voters who describe themselves as Democrats and 377 registered voters who describe themselves as Republicans. They were interviewed from January 14-17.
The poll's sampling error is plus-or-minus 5 percentage points for the Republican respondents, 4.5 percentage points for the Democratic respondents, and 8 percentage points for the African-American Democrat respondents.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/18/poll.2008/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
<font size="5"><center>Obama makes big gains among black voters</font size></center>
By Paul Steinhauser
CNN deputy political director
January 18, 2008
(CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton has lost a large amount of support among African-Americans, with a majority of black Democrats now supporting Sen. Barack Obama, according to a new poll out Friday.
In a national survey by CNN/Opinion Research Corp., 59 percent of black Democrats backed Obama, an Illinois Democrat, for their party's presidential nomination, with 31 percent supporting Clinton, the senator from New York.
The 28 point lead for Obama is a major reversal from October, when Clinton held a 24 point lead among black Democrats.
"There's been a huge shift among African-American Democrats from Clinton to Obama. African-American Democrats used to be reluctant to support Obama because they didn't think a black man could be elected. Then Obama won Iowa and nearly won New Hampshire. Now they believe," said Bill Schneider, CNN senior political analyst.
"Obama's lead over Clinton among black men is more than 50 points, and among black women, once a Clinton stronghold, Obama has an 11 point advantage," said CNN polling director Keating Holland.
It also appears the recent bickering between Clinton and Obama and their campaigns over race has hurt both candidates. Clinton has the support of 42 percent of all registered Democrats in the new survey, down seven points from last week's CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll. Obama has the backing of 33 percent of those questioned, down three percentage points in a week.
The beneficiary appears to be former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who jumped 5 points, to 17 percent.
"Why have Clinton and Obama both lost support over the past week? One word: squabbling. If two candidates get into a fight, the third candidate usually gains. Sure enough, John Edwards gained," Schneider said.
Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio is at 3 percent in the new poll, with former Sen. Mike Gravel of Alaska with support of less than 0.5 percent.
When all voters nationwide are asked to evaluate the major candidates in both parties, only one Republican candidate, McCain, fares well on issues and personal qualities. Most registered voters say Clinton and Obama -- as well as McCain -- have the necessary leadership skills and vision to be president. But most voters don't feel that way about Romney, Giuliani and Huckabee.
The same is true on issues. A majority of registered voters nationwide say McCain, Obama and Clinton agree with them on issues that matter, but a majority of voters disagree with Romney, Giuliani and Huckabee on important issues.
The economy continues to top the list of the public's biggest concerns, with Iraq, terrorism and health care not far behind. Four in 10 Americans now say the economy is in good shape, down 6 points since December and 14 points since the fall. Nearly six in 10, 59 percent, say the economy is in poor shape.
Regarding Iraq, the number of Americans who say things are going well for the U.S. has jumped 12 points since November, to 46 percent. Support for the war has grown 3 points in the same time.
The poll involved interviews with 1,393 adult Americans, including 448 registered voters who describe themselves as Democrats and 377 registered voters who describe themselves as Republicans. They were interviewed from January 14-17.
The poll's sampling error is plus-or-minus 5 percentage points for the Republican respondents, 4.5 percentage points for the Democratic respondents, and 8 percentage points for the African-American Democrat respondents.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/18/poll.2008/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Obama: The "yes We Can" Song
Hi everyone,
I just want to share with ya'll this powerful and uplifting song done by many celebrities and recording artists in support of Obama's campaign.
ENjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY&eurl=http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hqblog
Hi everyone,
I just want to share with ya'll this powerful and uplifting song done by many celebrities and recording artists in support of Obama's campaign.
ENjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY&eurl=http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hqblog
Re: Obama: The "yes We Can" Song
Good post.
Peace.
Good post.
Peace.
Re: Obama: The "yes We Can" Song
This question will probably be more well-received on this board...
Do you think stuff like this actually helps Obama?
His talk of hope and change, especially when everyone else first latched onto it, was derided as cliche and mere sloganism. Less informed support is easily portrayed as a result of "messianic appeal" or trendy or a fad. Marketing him like a pop drink or the newest pop star only feeds into that.
In a way, I feel like I'm using a higher standard because all campaigns have their uninformed supporters. But this is the campaign I support and also the campaign where it's most likely to be made an issue-- hell, on a level, Bill Clinton made it an issue in South Carolina-- and I think its fair to at least ask those who know better if we shouldn't push for something more substantive.
This question will probably be more well-received on this board...
Do you think stuff like this actually helps Obama?
His talk of hope and change, especially when everyone else first latched onto it, was derided as cliche and mere sloganism. Less informed support is easily portrayed as a result of "messianic appeal" or trendy or a fad. Marketing him like a pop drink or the newest pop star only feeds into that.
In a way, I feel like I'm using a higher standard because all campaigns have their uninformed supporters. But this is the campaign I support and also the campaign where it's most likely to be made an issue-- hell, on a level, Bill Clinton made it an issue in South Carolina-- and I think its fair to at least ask those who know better if we shouldn't push for something more substantive.
Yes We Can..
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Re: Is Obama to smart for us?
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"Wake Up Everybody" Obama Obama Obama
If you like Obama, I think you will love this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ma4ve_mjy0
If you like Obama, I think you will love this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ma4ve_mjy0
Barack Obama fans fill arenas with an eye on 'history'
BY DAVID SALTONSTALL
DAILY NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT
Thursday, February 14th 2008, 4:00 AM
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama addresses autoworkers at a plant in Janesville, Wis., Wednesday. The Illinois senator is ahead in delegates as Wisconsin gets ready to vote next Tuesday. Bowmer/AP
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama addresses autoworkers at a plant in Janesville, Wis., Wednesday. The Illinois senator is ahead in delegates as Wisconsin gets ready to vote next Tuesday.
MADISON, Wis. - Barack Obama was still an hour away, but the 17,900 fans who packed the Kohl Center arena here - many of whom waited hours in the freezing cold to get in - didn't seem to mind.
They did the wave, they watched Obama ads on the Jumbotron, and when the candidate finally bounded on stage to the strains of U2's "City of Blinding Lights," they shook the stadium.
"Wow, so this is how you guys do it in Madison?" said the candidate as he looked out at the cheering throng, which filled every seat. "What a crowd!"
With Obama now the Democratic Party's delegate leader, those looking to understand his ascendance should look at his crowds - they are routinely and undeniably huge, in a way not matched by any other candidate.
To hear those in the nosebleed sections explain it, playing hooky from work or school to see Obama has become less about politics, and more about bearing witness to history - the phenomenon that is Obama.
"If you had the opportunity to see John F. Kennedy before he was President, you'd definitely do it, right?" said Humberto Castillo, 21, a college senior who waited four hours to hear Obama Monday. "He will be someone who you can tell your kids - 'I went to one of his rallies.'"
On Sunday night, Obama filled the Virginia Beach Convention Center with 18,000 people. He drew 17,500 on Monday in College Park, Md., and the 17,900 on Tuesday in Madison did not include 1,500 in an overflow room, according to fire marshals at each location.
Hillary Clinton - although she drew an impressive 12,000 fans to an event in El Paso, Tex., on Tuesday night - more typically faces crowds in the few thousands, and often much less. McCain doesn't even come close.
Certainly Clinton, as the first woman with a chance at the nomination, has an aura of history around her. But Obama's reputation for soaring oratory - combined with his man-on-the-move, rock star-like vibe - seems to have made him the must-see candidate in a way Clinton simply isn't.
"He just seems to epitomize success," said Lisa Hughes, 51, of Mitchellville, Md., who got up at 4 a.m. to reach the College Park rally. "I tell my nieces and nephews - and I have 30 of them - 'This is what you should grow up to be.'"
In many cases, those in attendance - whites and blacks - are voters who faithfully pulled the lever for Bill Clinton, like LaTonya Groome, an African-American who until recently figured she'd be doing the same for his wife.
But there was Groome on Monday, sitting in the front row of an Obama rally at the University of Maryland.
"I am 43 years old, and this is the first time I have ever been a part of a political rally," said Groome, her young son, Ian, at her side. "But I also have an 8-year-old boy, and I wanted him to witness history."
-VG
BY DAVID SALTONSTALL
DAILY NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT
Thursday, February 14th 2008, 4:00 AM
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama addresses autoworkers at a plant in Janesville, Wis., Wednesday. The Illinois senator is ahead in delegates as Wisconsin gets ready to vote next Tuesday. Bowmer/AP
Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama addresses autoworkers at a plant in Janesville, Wis., Wednesday. The Illinois senator is ahead in delegates as Wisconsin gets ready to vote next Tuesday.
MADISON, Wis. - Barack Obama was still an hour away, but the 17,900 fans who packed the Kohl Center arena here - many of whom waited hours in the freezing cold to get in - didn't seem to mind.
They did the wave, they watched Obama ads on the Jumbotron, and when the candidate finally bounded on stage to the strains of U2's "City of Blinding Lights," they shook the stadium.
"Wow, so this is how you guys do it in Madison?" said the candidate as he looked out at the cheering throng, which filled every seat. "What a crowd!"
With Obama now the Democratic Party's delegate leader, those looking to understand his ascendance should look at his crowds - they are routinely and undeniably huge, in a way not matched by any other candidate.
To hear those in the nosebleed sections explain it, playing hooky from work or school to see Obama has become less about politics, and more about bearing witness to history - the phenomenon that is Obama.
"If you had the opportunity to see John F. Kennedy before he was President, you'd definitely do it, right?" said Humberto Castillo, 21, a college senior who waited four hours to hear Obama Monday. "He will be someone who you can tell your kids - 'I went to one of his rallies.'"
On Sunday night, Obama filled the Virginia Beach Convention Center with 18,000 people. He drew 17,500 on Monday in College Park, Md., and the 17,900 on Tuesday in Madison did not include 1,500 in an overflow room, according to fire marshals at each location.
Hillary Clinton - although she drew an impressive 12,000 fans to an event in El Paso, Tex., on Tuesday night - more typically faces crowds in the few thousands, and often much less. McCain doesn't even come close.
Certainly Clinton, as the first woman with a chance at the nomination, has an aura of history around her. But Obama's reputation for soaring oratory - combined with his man-on-the-move, rock star-like vibe - seems to have made him the must-see candidate in a way Clinton simply isn't.
"He just seems to epitomize success," said Lisa Hughes, 51, of Mitchellville, Md., who got up at 4 a.m. to reach the College Park rally. "I tell my nieces and nephews - and I have 30 of them - 'This is what you should grow up to be.'"
In many cases, those in attendance - whites and blacks - are voters who faithfully pulled the lever for Bill Clinton, like LaTonya Groome, an African-American who until recently figured she'd be doing the same for his wife.
But there was Groome on Monday, sitting in the front row of an Obama rally at the University of Maryland.
"I am 43 years old, and this is the first time I have ever been a part of a political rally," said Groome, her young son, Ian, at her side. "But I also have an 8-year-old boy, and I wanted him to witness history."
-VG
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Re: Is Obama to smart for us?
Craig Robinson, brother of Michelle Obama, wife of Democratic
presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., introduces his
younger sister at an Obama campaign rally in Warwick, R.I., in
this Feb. 20, 2008, file photo. Robinson is basketball coach at
Brown University and is Obama's most prominent salesman,
cheerleader and fundraiser in the upcoming presidential primary
state of Rhode Island. (AP Photo/Stephan Savoia, File)
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Craig Robinson, brother of Michelle Obama, wife of Democratic
presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., introduces his
younger sister at an Obama campaign rally in Warwick, R.I., in
this Feb. 20, 2008, file photo. Robinson is basketball coach at
Brown University and is Obama's most prominent salesman,
cheerleader and fundraiser in the upcoming presidential primary
state of Rhode Island. (AP Photo/Stephan Savoia, File)
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The REALEST Shit You'll Ever Hear about OBAMA-MANIA...
I don't usually do this, but today is a new day, new week, so before work, i figure what the hell, start with something different.
All of the emotion, all of the political arguments, all of the speculating on social impact/import...it all boils down to one simple truth.
OBAMA 2008 is KENNEDY 1960--
Kennedy was White & Catholic; Obama is White & Black.
This is clearly a relevant, potent moment we are living through. But, beyond the fact that Obama, like Kennedy, is in the process of helping to inspire a nation, also like Kennedy, Obama is attempting to re-instill HOPE into our socio-political vocabulary, and finally, AND MOST SIGNIFICANTLY, LIKE KENNEDY 1960, OBAMA IS ONLY AS STRONG A LEADER AS HIS CAPACITY TO AFFECT OTHERS(like you, like me, etc.) TO AFFECT CHANGE.
GHANDI, Dr. KING both lived and died by two simple, divine truths--
The Kingdom of God is Within You & BE the change you wish to see in the world.
Kennedy was one vitally important contributor to the 1960s Zeitgeist. In one speech, famously synthesizing the spiritually rooted reform movements with the politically rooted reform movements with the social rooted reform movements-- ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU; ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY.
NOW--Anyone who believes/DEFENDS that Kennedy was somehow a COMMANDER IN "CHRIST", an unimpeachably sacrificing for the greater good of the world President (a "do-no-harm")...is uniformed or/and willfully ignorant.
All leaders, like all people do both harm and good. Furthermore, some of the harm each of us do is irreparable.
Obama can/will AT BEST achieve a similar legacy in the Historical-Political Annuls; this is true REGARDLESS of whether or not he is elected President.
but, as i say, the situation is simple -
Kennedy was White & Catholic---Obama is White & Black.
Their potential was/IS like All of ours BOUNDLESS in theory, yet in REALITY limited by our ability to process our experiences in the world.
****I, myself, will not be checking this thread. It's all here. It is not my job, nor my interest to fail after failed attempt at forcing those willfully blind to see the points so clearly, so plainly articulated herein.
Those interested in real talk, try a PM, but if this invitation is disrespected by one, the only response will be a copied and pasted public displayed for all.
I don't usually do this, but today is a new day, new week, so before work, i figure what the hell, start with something different.
All of the emotion, all of the political arguments, all of the speculating on social impact/import...it all boils down to one simple truth.
OBAMA 2008 is KENNEDY 1960--
Kennedy was White & Catholic; Obama is White & Black.
This is clearly a relevant, potent moment we are living through. But, beyond the fact that Obama, like Kennedy, is in the process of helping to inspire a nation, also like Kennedy, Obama is attempting to re-instill HOPE into our socio-political vocabulary, and finally, AND MOST SIGNIFICANTLY, LIKE KENNEDY 1960, OBAMA IS ONLY AS STRONG A LEADER AS HIS CAPACITY TO AFFECT OTHERS(like you, like me, etc.) TO AFFECT CHANGE.
GHANDI, Dr. KING both lived and died by two simple, divine truths--
The Kingdom of God is Within You & BE the change you wish to see in the world.
Kennedy was one vitally important contributor to the 1960s Zeitgeist. In one speech, famously synthesizing the spiritually rooted reform movements with the politically rooted reform movements with the social rooted reform movements-- ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU; ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY.
NOW--Anyone who believes/DEFENDS that Kennedy was somehow a COMMANDER IN "CHRIST", an unimpeachably sacrificing for the greater good of the world President (a "do-no-harm")...is uniformed or/and willfully ignorant.
All leaders, like all people do both harm and good. Furthermore, some of the harm each of us do is irreparable.
Obama can/will AT BEST achieve a similar legacy in the Historical-Political Annuls; this is true REGARDLESS of whether or not he is elected President.
but, as i say, the situation is simple -
Kennedy was White & Catholic---Obama is White & Black.
Their potential was/IS like All of ours BOUNDLESS in theory, yet in REALITY limited by our ability to process our experiences in the world.
****I, myself, will not be checking this thread. It's all here. It is not my job, nor my interest to fail after failed attempt at forcing those willfully blind to see the points so clearly, so plainly articulated herein.
Those interested in real talk, try a PM, but if this invitation is disrespected by one, the only response will be a copied and pasted public displayed for all.
Obama Shatters Dream Ticket...
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I used to like Hillary as 1st lady. Now that I've had the chance to see her in action, I'm beginning to hate her.
I used to like Hillary as 1st lady. Now that I've had the chance to see her in action, I'm beginning to hate her
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Barack Obama -A NEW HOPE - Rolling Stone Endorsement
A New Hope
JANN S. WENNER
Mar 20, 2008
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/19106551/a_new_hope
The tides of history are rising higher and faster these days. Read them right and ride them, or be crushed. And then along comes Barack Obama, with the kinds of gifts that appear in politics but once every few generations. There is a sense of dignity, even majesty, about him, and underneath that ease lies a resolute discipline. It's not just that he is eloquent — with that ability to speak both to you and to speak for you — it's that he has a quality of thinking and intellectual and emotional honesty that is extraordinary.
I first learned of Barack Obama from a man who was at the highest level of George W. Bush's political organization through two presidential campaigns. He described the first-term senator from Illinois as "a walking hope machine" and told me that he would not work for any Republican candidate in 2008 if Obama was nominated. He challenged me to read Obama's autobiography, Dreams From My Father.
The book was a revelation. Here was a man whose honesty about himself and understanding of the human condition are both deep and compassionate. Born to a white mother and an African father, he was raised in multiracial Hawaii and for several years in Indonesia. He drifted through some druggy teenage years — no apologies! — before emerging as a star at Harvard Law School. He chose to work as a community organizer in the projects of Chicago rather than join the wealthy insider world of corporate law. And as a young adult, he searched, in the distant villages of Kenya, for the father and family he never knew.
As I read all this, so elegantly written, my mind kept rolling over: Might it be possible? Is there some fate by which we could have this man as president of the United States?
Throughout the primaries, and during a visit he paid to our offices, we have come to know Barack Obama, his toughness and his grace. He would not be intimidated, and he declined to back down, when Senator Clinton called him "frankly, naive" for his willingness to meet leaders of hostile nations. When one of her top campaign officials tried to smear him for his earlier drug use, he did not equivocate or backtrack. On the matter of experience and capability, he has run an impressive, nearly flawless campaign — one that whupped America's most hard-boiled political infighters. Indeed, Obama was far more prepared to run a presidential campaign — from Day One — than Senator Clinton. And at no point did he go negative with personal attacks or character assassination; as much as they might have been justified, they didn't even seem tempting to him.
Obama has emerged by displaying precisely the kind of character and judgment we need in a president: renouncing the politics of fear, speaking frankly on the most pressing issues facing the country and sticking to his principles. He recognizes that running for president is an opportunity to inspire an entire nation.
All this was made clearer by the contrast with Hillary Clinton, a capable and personable senator who has run the kind of campaign that reminds us of what makes us so discouraged about our politics. Her campaign certainly proved her experience didn't count for much: She was a bad manager and a bad strategist who naturally and easily engaged in the politics of distraction, trivialization and personal attack. She never convinced us that her vote for the war in Iraq was anything other than a strategic political calculation that placed her presidential ambitions above the horrifying consequences of a war. Her calibrated course corrections over the past three years were painful. Like John Kerry — who also voted for the war while planning a presidential run — it helped cost her that goal.
Although Obama declined to attack her personally for her vote for the war in Iraq, he did call it, devastatingly enough, a clear demonstration of her so-called experience and "judgment." He has also spoken forcefully about the need to break the grip of lobbyists — at a time when Clinton is the largest recipient of drug-company donations of anyone in Congress. Clinton could not address this issue at all, and neither will John McCain, who is equally a player in Washington's lobbyist culture.
Obama also denounced the Republican campaign of fear. Early in the campaign, John Edwards took the lead, calling the War on Terror a campaign slogan, not a policy. Obama rejected the subtle imagery of false patriotism by not wearing a flag pin in his lapel, and he dismissed the broader notion that the Democratic Party had to find a way to buy into this entire load of fear-mongering War on Terror bullshit — to out-Republican the Republicans — and thus become, in his description of Hillary Clinton's macho posturing on foreign policy, little more than "Bush-Cheney lite."
The similarities between John Kennedy and Barack Obama come to mind easily: the youth, the magnetism, the natural grace, the eloquence, the wit, the intelligence, the hope of a new generation.
But it might be more to the point to view Obama as Lincolnesque in his own origins, his sobriety and what history now demands.
We have a deeply divided nation, driven apart by economic policies that have deliberately created the largest income disparities in our history, with stunning tax breaks for the wealthiest and subsidies for giant industries. The income of the average citizen is stagnant, and his quality of life continues to slowly erode from inflation.
We are embittered and hobbled by the unnecessary and failed war in Iraq. We have been worn down by long years of fear- and hate-filled political strategies, assaults on constitutional freedoms, and levels of greed and cynicism, that — once seen for what they are — no people of moral values or ethics can tolerate.
A new president must heal these divides, must at long last face the hypocrisy and inequity of unprecedented government handouts to oil giants, hedge-fund barons, agriculture combines and drug companies. At the same time, the new president must transform our lethal energy economy — replacing oil and coal and the ethanol fraud with green alternatives and strict rain-forest preservation and tough international standards — before the planet becomes inhospitable for most human life. Although Obama has been slow to address global warming, I feel confident that his intelligence and morality will lead him clearly on this issue.
We need to recover the spiritual and moral direction that should describe our country and ourselves. We see this in Obama, and we see the promise he represents to bring factions together, to achieve again the unity that drives great change and faces difficult, and inconvenient, truths and peril.
We need to send a message to ourselves and to the world that we truly do stand for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And in electing an African-American, we also profoundly renounce an ugliness and violence in our national character that have been further stoked by our president in these last eight years.
Like Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama challenges America to rise up, to do what so many of us long to do: to summon "the better angels of our nature."
A New Hope
JANN S. WENNER
Mar 20, 2008
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/19106551/a_new_hope
The tides of history are rising higher and faster these days. Read them right and ride them, or be crushed. And then along comes Barack Obama, with the kinds of gifts that appear in politics but once every few generations. There is a sense of dignity, even majesty, about him, and underneath that ease lies a resolute discipline. It's not just that he is eloquent — with that ability to speak both to you and to speak for you — it's that he has a quality of thinking and intellectual and emotional honesty that is extraordinary.
I first learned of Barack Obama from a man who was at the highest level of George W. Bush's political organization through two presidential campaigns. He described the first-term senator from Illinois as "a walking hope machine" and told me that he would not work for any Republican candidate in 2008 if Obama was nominated. He challenged me to read Obama's autobiography, Dreams From My Father.
The book was a revelation. Here was a man whose honesty about himself and understanding of the human condition are both deep and compassionate. Born to a white mother and an African father, he was raised in multiracial Hawaii and for several years in Indonesia. He drifted through some druggy teenage years — no apologies! — before emerging as a star at Harvard Law School. He chose to work as a community organizer in the projects of Chicago rather than join the wealthy insider world of corporate law. And as a young adult, he searched, in the distant villages of Kenya, for the father and family he never knew.
As I read all this, so elegantly written, my mind kept rolling over: Might it be possible? Is there some fate by which we could have this man as president of the United States?
Throughout the primaries, and during a visit he paid to our offices, we have come to know Barack Obama, his toughness and his grace. He would not be intimidated, and he declined to back down, when Senator Clinton called him "frankly, naive" for his willingness to meet leaders of hostile nations. When one of her top campaign officials tried to smear him for his earlier drug use, he did not equivocate or backtrack. On the matter of experience and capability, he has run an impressive, nearly flawless campaign — one that whupped America's most hard-boiled political infighters. Indeed, Obama was far more prepared to run a presidential campaign — from Day One — than Senator Clinton. And at no point did he go negative with personal attacks or character assassination; as much as they might have been justified, they didn't even seem tempting to him.
Obama has emerged by displaying precisely the kind of character and judgment we need in a president: renouncing the politics of fear, speaking frankly on the most pressing issues facing the country and sticking to his principles. He recognizes that running for president is an opportunity to inspire an entire nation.
All this was made clearer by the contrast with Hillary Clinton, a capable and personable senator who has run the kind of campaign that reminds us of what makes us so discouraged about our politics. Her campaign certainly proved her experience didn't count for much: She was a bad manager and a bad strategist who naturally and easily engaged in the politics of distraction, trivialization and personal attack. She never convinced us that her vote for the war in Iraq was anything other than a strategic political calculation that placed her presidential ambitions above the horrifying consequences of a war. Her calibrated course corrections over the past three years were painful. Like John Kerry — who also voted for the war while planning a presidential run — it helped cost her that goal.
Although Obama declined to attack her personally for her vote for the war in Iraq, he did call it, devastatingly enough, a clear demonstration of her so-called experience and "judgment." He has also spoken forcefully about the need to break the grip of lobbyists — at a time when Clinton is the largest recipient of drug-company donations of anyone in Congress. Clinton could not address this issue at all, and neither will John McCain, who is equally a player in Washington's lobbyist culture.
Obama also denounced the Republican campaign of fear. Early in the campaign, John Edwards took the lead, calling the War on Terror a campaign slogan, not a policy. Obama rejected the subtle imagery of false patriotism by not wearing a flag pin in his lapel, and he dismissed the broader notion that the Democratic Party had to find a way to buy into this entire load of fear-mongering War on Terror bullshit — to out-Republican the Republicans — and thus become, in his description of Hillary Clinton's macho posturing on foreign policy, little more than "Bush-Cheney lite."
The similarities between John Kennedy and Barack Obama come to mind easily: the youth, the magnetism, the natural grace, the eloquence, the wit, the intelligence, the hope of a new generation.
But it might be more to the point to view Obama as Lincolnesque in his own origins, his sobriety and what history now demands.
We have a deeply divided nation, driven apart by economic policies that have deliberately created the largest income disparities in our history, with stunning tax breaks for the wealthiest and subsidies for giant industries. The income of the average citizen is stagnant, and his quality of life continues to slowly erode from inflation.
We are embittered and hobbled by the unnecessary and failed war in Iraq. We have been worn down by long years of fear- and hate-filled political strategies, assaults on constitutional freedoms, and levels of greed and cynicism, that — once seen for what they are — no people of moral values or ethics can tolerate.
A new president must heal these divides, must at long last face the hypocrisy and inequity of unprecedented government handouts to oil giants, hedge-fund barons, agriculture combines and drug companies. At the same time, the new president must transform our lethal energy economy — replacing oil and coal and the ethanol fraud with green alternatives and strict rain-forest preservation and tough international standards — before the planet becomes inhospitable for most human life. Although Obama has been slow to address global warming, I feel confident that his intelligence and morality will lead him clearly on this issue.
We need to recover the spiritual and moral direction that should describe our country and ourselves. We see this in Obama, and we see the promise he represents to bring factions together, to achieve again the unity that drives great change and faces difficult, and inconvenient, truths and peril.
We need to send a message to ourselves and to the world that we truly do stand for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And in electing an African-American, we also profoundly renounce an ugliness and violence in our national character that have been further stoked by our president in these last eight years.
Like Abraham Lincoln, Barack Obama challenges America to rise up, to do what so many of us long to do: to summon "the better angels of our nature."
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