Barack Obama has exposed the "Black Hustle"

[sirwoodz]

Your POINTS are played out Rush Limbaugh talking points. I heard them 17 years ago after the L.A. riots, I heard them after the O.J. trial, I heard them after Dennis Byrd got drug, I heard them after those church bombings and racially motivated killings in the 90's, heard that shit after Katrina, heard that shit in Jena, etc, etc, etc. YOU AIN'T SAYING SHIT!!! Not only are you not saying shit, but the shit you AREN'T saying isn't even your own thoughts. It's recycled bullshit, I mean recycled to hell and back and if MLK and/or Malcolm X were alive today or if you had been alive then, you'd be saying the same about them, why, because you say whatever the fuck white folks program you to say.

- ask yourself something...why are you so upset and emotional? seriously. you're not even TRYING to address my points or answer any of my questions.

seems like you are more dead set on letting me know what you think about me through a got damned computer screen. cmon dude...is life that pathetic? are things that bad?

and if you think Martin and Malcolm would allow 70% of black children to be born out of wedlock on their watch without so much as even ADDRESSING it, EVER PUBLICLY - then you may wanna think about joining them where they are right now.

 

[audio syndicate]

so is that what my life should be based on? I should base my entire existence on what a WHITE person may do to me? I should let this cloud my judgment, thinking, and decision making like YOU do?

what's funny is that the mexican on black attacks are getting to be pretty normal especially out on the west coast...what great black super hero should I call if they decide to try and kill me?

your logic is flawed....you believe you need no public advocates that are not barack obama, when HE needs public advocates...nigga your messiah like worship of obama comes as a TEAM EFFORT...it's not just him...he has an entire machine behind him..you gonna praise them too?

and since when did martin and malcolm equate to vocal birth control? nigga get a grip...people speak out, but guess what? mainstream media doesn't cover blacks helping blacks. you probably think the congressional black caucus is a bunch of coon sellouts too huh? guess who the LEAST vocal on the caucus was? yep, your messiah..

delete this thread man....seriously

 

[nittie]

If Barack graduated from a HBU he would be running for Chicago city council. It's great that he's in the position he's in, maybe it will tear down some divisions among working class peeps. But lets not get it twisted, he's where he's at because the establishment wants him there, not taking anything from him he's done a great job, but he is not self-made, he's a made man.

 

[sargeant]

- no, the black hustle is profiting off of black misery and black dysfunctionality. giving a black man who kills 4 or 5 black children a pass, when you don't do so for whites.

just a little over a year ago, they had that march in philly to try to curb the black on black violence up there, all organized by community activists and the police chief i believe - and none of our "leaders" showed up for it (Bill Cosby did). now, if over 370 black people were killed by police in a year or by some white right wing hate group - we wouldn't be sitting here typing right now - we'd all be either fighting in the streets or dead...a race war would be inevitable, and those two would be the main ones calling for it from Barbados.

Jesse and Al know that they bring cameras and media attention...I guess they were too busy fighting Don Imus or the Jenna 6 to attend...no, wait my bad...that stripper down in North Carolina was going down...boy on boy, lord knows over 300 black men murdered is nowhere NEAR as important as a a beautiful black stripper.

Well, to the extent that religion is a coping mechanism, the "Black Hustle," which in my view is grounded in religion, does profit from dysfunction. So on that point we agree.

 

[Zero]

- ask yourself something...why are you so upset and emotional? seriously. you're not even TRYING to address my points or answer any of my questions.

seems like you are more dead set on letting me know what you think about me through a got damned computer screen. cmon dude...is life that pathetic? are things that bad?

and if you think Martin and Malcolm would allow 70% of black children to be born out of wedlock on their watch without so much as even ADDRESSING it, EVER PUBLICLY - then you may wanna think about joining them where they are right now.

You know something bruh, do you. You are definitely not wrapped too tight and I've reached the conclusion this shit right here is 100% about attention (seems like I already peeped that about you in another post, but I can't recall). Shit isn't about emotion dog, it's about you wanting someone to debate you heads up on your dumb fucking premise and you being upset because nobody will bite. Why would a logical person debate you within the confines of your illogical arguments?

I clearly explained why myself and most likely others are not arguing your "points", but you have convinced yourself it is because that old tired routine of yours is so rock solid, nobody can challenge it. That being the case, I'd have to assume you are mentally ill because that level of delusion can't be maintained by a healthy mind.

 

[sargeant]

If Barack graduated from a HBU he would be running for Chicago city council. It's great that he's in the position he's in, maybe it will tear down some divisions among working class peeps. But lets not get it twisted, he's where he's at because the establishment wants him there, not taking anything from him he's done a great job, but he is not self-made, he's a made man.

Stop with conspiracy BS. Here's the painful truth: If Obama were only good enough to graduate from an HBU then he wouldn't be good enough to become president.

Instead, he chose to compete at the highest level academically and now he's doing the same politically. This has nothing to do with what the "establishment" wants and everything to do with a man fulfilling his potential by having unusually high expectations, i.e., by having the "audacity of hope."

 

[sirwoodz]

your logic is flawed....you believe you need no public advocates that are not barack obama, when HE needs public advocates...nigga your messiah like worship of obama comes as a TEAM EFFORT...it's not just him...he has an entire machine behind him..you gonna praise them too?

and since when did martin and malcolm equate to vocal birth control? nigga get a grip...people speak out, but guess what? mainstream media doesn't cover blacks helping blacks. you probably think the congressional black caucus is a bunch of coon sellouts too huh? guess who the LEAST vocal on the caucus was? yep, your messiah..

delete this thread man....seriously

- it's obvious you are one of these dudes that just picked up on what's been going on around him for only about 6 or 7 months, so you get a slight pass....

Barack Obama doesn't have support from the CBC, Jesse, Al, NAACP or any of them...they are playing the background because most of them were in clintons camp, and a lot of them are jealous because one of "their own" didn't get there. Dr King went through this as well with the SCLC when he was crowned their leader...

and since you are simpleton i will break it down for you: I used the 70% out of wedlock birth rate to illustrate my point - I'm saying that if those two were alive today, they wouldn't be pimping black people out and ignoring BLATANT problems we face in return for a fat pay check . I doubt you would've seen either of them on Saturday Night Live, or doing TV shows either.

 

[nittie]

Stop with conspiracy BS. Here's the painful truth: If Obama were only good enough to graduate from an HBU then he wouldn't be good enough to become president. Instead, he chose to compete at the highest level academically and now he's doing the same politically. This has nothing to do with what the "establishment" wants and everything to do with a man fulfilling his potential by having unusually high expectations, i.e., by having the "audacity of hope."

Doesn't 1+1=2 if you graduated from a HBU? Why is a harvard degree more valuable than one from Albany State? If this was about a black man winning because of his audacity nothing could stop him but we know that's not the case. Obama is the right Black man, Jesse Jackson Jr has just as much audacity he just got the wrong name.

 

[sirwoodz]

You know something bruh, do you. You are definitely not wrapped too tight and I've reached the conclusion this shit right here is 100% about attention (seems like I already peeped that about you in another post, but I can't recall). Shit isn't about emotion dog, it's about you wanting someone to debate you heads up on your dumb fucking premise and you being upset because nobody will bite. Why would a logical person debate you within the confines of your illogical arguments?.

- bruh, you're angry, so angry that you won't even answer some of the most basic and elementary questions like why weren't jesse or al at that march in Philly? why don't they bring national media attention to issues like HIV/AIDS and fatherless homes in the black community?

its obvious that these questions and my stance is uncomfortable for you to deal with, which is why you keep responding by saying "im not responding to that!" and you keep focusing on ME, not the questions/points but the PERSON WHO ASKED THE QUESTION AND RAISED THE POINTS...this makes absolutely no logical sense whatsoever.

and u know the answers in YOUR OWN mind expose them for what they are...and instead of letting that pour out from your fingers, you'd rather just hurl insults like we are fighting over a girl on the playground.

 

[sargeant]

Doesn't 1+1=2 if you graduated from a HBU? Why is a harvard degree more valuable than one from Albany State? If this was about a black man winning because of his audacity nothing could stop him but we know that's not the case. Obama is the right Black man, Jesse Jackson Jr has just as much audacity he just got the wrong name.

A Harvard degree is more valuable because the marketplace more highly values Harvard grads; compare their starting salaries for proof. Why does the market favor the Harvard grad? Smarter students performing superior scholarship; compare the stats on their incoming students, moreover, compare the level and quantity of academic product for proof.

You're right, though you misunderstood my point; audacity alone isn't enough. Obama has audacity, but he also has a superior intellect resulting from his own innate gifts and his elite education.

Education is critically important because education is not only what separates Obama from Jackson and Sharpton, academic performance is principally what separates blacks from fellow Americans.

Obama's path to success, indeed, the principal path to success, is in the classroom. To the extent that Jackson, Sharpton, and others haven't made that point they've failed as leaders.

If black kids keep losing in the classroom they'll keep losing outside of it as adults. In an abstract way, maybe Obama should inspire black kids to dream; more to the point, he should inspire them to do their fucking homework.

 

[sirwoodz]

Obama's path to success, indeed, the principal path to success, is in the classroom. To the extent that Jackson, Sharpton, and others haven't made that point they've failed as leaders.

If black kids keep losing in the classroom they'll keep losing outside of it as adults. In an abstract way, maybe Obama should inspire black kids to dream; more to the point, he should inspire them to do their fucking homework.

 

[audio syndicate]

- it's obvious you are one of these dudes that just picked up on what's been going on around him for only about 6 or 7 months, so you get a slight pass....

Barack Obama doesn't have support from the CBC, Jesse, Al, NAACP or any of them...they are playing the background because most of them were in clintons camp, and a lot of them are jealous because one of "their own" didn't get there. Dr King went through this as well with the SCLC when he was crowned their leader...

and since you are simpleton i will break it down for you: I used the 70% out of wedlock birth rate to illustrate my point - I'm saying that if those two were alive today, they wouldn't be pimping black people out and ignoring BLATANT problems we face in return for a fat pay check . I doubt you would've seen either of them on Saturday Night Live, or doing TV shows either.

seriously...stop

 

[roster]

Have some faith in our children.

Hell, even one kid went against the grain in the Clark Kids and sides with Mccain He may be the future Barack Obama for the Republicans

 

[KingTaharqa]

I will always believe that this kat, along with Van Allen, Blunt and a few others are here to spread an agenda. I don't take anything these idiots post seriously.

Sirwoodz white ass is here to live vicariously as a black man and gawk at black ass. Thats his agenda. You ever met someone who swore they were smarter than everyone else but is slow as a tortoise and dumb as rocks? Well thats Sirwoodz. Yall need to throw this white man on the ignore list.

 

[Blaq]

it's about you wanting someone to debate you heads up on your dumb fucking premise and you being upset because nobody will bite. Why would a logical person debate you within the confines of your illogical arguments?

Bingo

 

[Blaq]

Sirwoodz white ass is here to live vicariously as a black man and gawk at black ass. Thats his agenda. You ever met someone who swore they were smarter than everyone else but is slow as a tortoise and dumb as rocks? Well thats Sirwoodz. Yall need to throw this white man on the ignore list.

Judging by those who are taking him seriously one can tell they're not familiar with his m.o. Dude is a plant here plain and simple. I'd noticed awhile ago. It's fairly obvious.

 

[sirwoodz]

^^^ yes. I am a white man who works for a secret right wing shadow government.

I was sent here to advocate that black people stop having children out of wedlock, stop celebrating violence, and reject leaders who turn a blind eye to poor black suffering.

man oh man. we sure can't get anything by your guys. just too bright and intelligent.

 

[nittie]

A Harvard degree is more valuable because the marketplace more highly values Harvard grads; compare their starting salaries for proof. Why does the market favor the Harvard grad? Smarter students performing superior scholarship; compare the stats on their incoming students, moreover, compare the level and quantity of academic product for proof.

You're right, though you misunderstood my point; audacity alone isn't enough. Obama has audacity, but he also has a superior intellect resulting from his own innate gifts and his elite education.

Education is critically important because education is not only what separates Obama from Jackson and Sharpton, academic performance is principally what separates blacks from fellow Americans.

Obama's path to success, indeed, the principal path to success, is in the classroom. To the extent that Jackson, Sharpton, and others haven't made that point they've failed as leaders.

If black kids keep losing in the classroom they'll keep losing outside of it as adults. In an abstract way, maybe Obama should inspire black kids to dream; more to the point, he should inspire them to do their fucking homework.

I understand and you're right on several points, the problem I have is with the education system. I think it's more of a indocrination system, that's why a kid from a HBU or state college will never be president, because he didn't meet the indocrination standards. Obama is a product of the system, the reason he's in the position he's in is because he passed the test, jumped when 'they' said jump.

 

[Mo Pizorn]

Sorry, playa. Jesse Jackson's PUSH for excellence program helped a lot of children back in the day when nobody else gave a shit about the inner city students of color. Al is always on the frontline and while you may not agree with him, there is no question where his allegiance lies. As a matter of fact, I think its safe to say that and, read this specifically - WHERE BLACK FOLK ARE CONCERNED, Al and Jesse are more reliable advocates than Barack Obama. A lot of black folk are riding Obama on hope - hope he don't forget our black asses when he's President. In truth, we need BOTH kinds of black folk - Barack to show that there is a such thing as black excellence and Jesse and Al to show that there are black people looking out specifically for black people and that we have a voice when we are the victims of injustice. Whites love Obama because he allows them to forget their superior social status and offers them a position of "equality" therefore alleviating "white guilt". Al and Jesse remind them of their history and what they have allowed to happen to attain their current social status and whites hate being reminded of that. They call racism what it is and whites hate being reminded that some of their own aren't being politically correct and keeping the hate inside.
Some aspects of integration have fucked up the black community. Barack represents a strength through uniting together for a goal. Al & Jesse represent BLACK PEOPLE unifying and that scares the shit out of everybody else. We need BOTH kinds of people.
Its funny how only black people are told to choose. Whites, Asians and hispanics are allowed to unite within their own as well as among others. Only we are told you must choose between having love for your own people and love for all people.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Judging by those who are taking him seriously one can tell they're not familiar with his m.o. Dude is a plant here plain and simple. I'd noticed awhile ago. It's fairly obvious.

The funny thing is, I post on another message board thats probably 90% white and Sirwoodz stereotypical rhetoric is totally identical to theirs. He always plays the white man's devils advocate in every thread and manages to turn any positive about blacks into a negative. He also seems to steer clear of threads like the hannity.com thread below that showcases white paranoia and fear of black upward mobility. He claims he's a "conservative democrat" but manages to trash Al & Jesse regularly, both of whom are 2 respected democratic leaders another dead giveaway he's a disgruntled white man. I mean what black democrat do you know would tell you "BET is more destructive than Fox News" when its BET who's used virtually all of their programming to promote Barack Obama and encourage young blacks to vote, while Foxnews has dedicated most of its programming to destroying Obama? He's a not too bright white man ashamed of his heritage, period.

 

[sirwoodz]

The funny thing is, I post on another message board thats probably 90% white and Sirwoodz stereotypical rhetoric is totally identical to theirs. He always plays the white man's devils advocate in every thread and manages to turn any positive about blacks into a negative. He also seems to steer clear of threads like the hannity.com thread below that showcases white paranoia and fear of black upward mobility. He claims he's a "conservative democrat" but manages to trash Al & Jesse regularly, both of whom are 2 respected democratic leaders another dead giveaway he's a disgruntled white man. I mean what black democrat do you know would tell you "BET is more destructive than Fox News" when its BET who's used virtually all of their programming to promote Barack Obama and encourage young blacks to vote, while Foxnews has dedicated most of its programming to destroying Obama? He's a not too bright white man ashamed of his heritage, period.

- bruh, you typed out all of that, when you could use that same energy to address my points.

and why not just put me on ignore or ignore the thread altogether? obviously something was said to get you all riled up.

 

[KingTaharqa]

- bruh, you typed out all of that, when you could use that same energy to address my points.

We're not brothers son, and you put out negative energy you draw negative energy. You didnt learn that in your home schooling slowpoke?

and why not just put me on ignore or ignore the thread altogether? obviously something was said to get you all riled up.

Nothings got me riled up, Im just on to your lame act. You offer no solutions to the questions or rants you pose, just the same bullshit rhetoric over and over. You're here to troll the blacks, Im here to troll sirwoodz posts. Its all fair game.

 

[niggaplz]

- bruh, you typed out all of that, when you could use that same energy to address my points.

and why not just put me on ignore or ignore the thread altogether? obviously something was said to get YOU ALL riled up.

Hold up a second folk...what you MEAN by you all??

 

[BoyJupiter]

A Barack Obama presidency does not eliminate instituted racism or discrimination of any factor. It certainly reflects the progressive state of America, but it (in no way) diminishes the effect of deeply embedded corporate discrimination.

 

[concepts25]

Your POINTS are played out Rush Limbaugh talking points. I heard them 17 years ago after the L.A. riots, I heard them after the O.J. trial, I heard them after Dennis Byrd got drug, I heard them after those church bombings and racially motivated killings in the 90's, heard that shit after Katrina, heard that shit in Jena, etc, etc, etc. YOU AIN'T SAYING SHIT!!! Not only are you not saying shit, but the shit you AREN'T saying isn't even your own thoughts. It's recycled bullshit, I mean recycled to hell and back and if MLK and/or Malcolm X were alive today or if you had been alive then, you'd be saying the same about them, why, because you say whatever the fuck white folks program you to say.

co-sign to the fullest. so many niggas on here just repeat white peoples opinions on things it makes me sick. Not enough black folks on here it seems have the ability to look at the world objectively and form their own opinion.

 

[sargeant]

I understand and you're right on several points, the problem I have is with the education system. I think it's more of a indocrination system, that's why a kid from a HBU or state college will never be president, because he didn't meet the indocrination standards. Obama is a product of the system, the reason he's in the position he's in is because he passed the test, jumped when 'they' said jump.

No, he didn't fucking jump when they said jump. He did his homework so when they asked him if and why a court had jurisdiction over a claim he got the fucking right answer. The same way when they asked an MD to explain the difference between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system he got the right fucking answer.

Pay attention because this shit is important. The classroom is a competitive arena. You've given the loser's excuse -- it's not my fault; it's the game that's the problem, i.e., it's not education, it's "indoctrination."

Math, science, engineering, law and medicine are not fucking forms of indoctrination. They are critical bases of knowledge, chiefly responsible for improvements in human living conditions.

Now I understand why a person or group would deride education in order to excuse their educational failures, it's easier than admitting defeat; but that doesn't make it okay; the stakes are just too damn high.

Education is not a path to success, it's the fucking path. Don't like it, too bad.

Don't attack Obama or the educators. Look in the mirror, and attack stupid motherfuckers who tolerate, or worse, praise, getting the wrong fucking answers on tests.

 

[water]

The funny thing is, I post on another message board thats probably 90% white and Sirwoodz stereotypical rhetoric is totally identical to theirs.

He always plays the white man's devils advocate in every thread and manages to turn any positive about blacks into a negative. He also seems to steer clear of threads like the hannity.com thread below that showcases white paranoia and fear of black upward mobility.

He claims he's a "conservative democrat" but manages to trash Al & Jesse regularly, both of whom are 2 respected democratic leaders another dead giveaway he's a disgruntled white man. I mean what black democrat do you know would tell you "BET is more destructive than Fox News" when its BET who's used virtually all of their programming to promote Barack Obama and encourage young blacks to vote, while Foxnews has dedicated most of its programming to destroying Obama? He's a not too bright white man ashamed of his heritage, period.

 

[water]

Hold up a second folk...what you MEAN by you all??

 

[water]

Hold up a second folk...what you MEAN by you all??

 

[water]

Hold up a second folk...what you MEAN by you all??

 

[water]

Hold up a second folk...what you MEAN by you all??

 

[DeSiRe]

Now you need to reread the original post, because if you do, this response sounds fucked up (considering dude included the NAACP and to ask what legislation has the NAACP helped push or what Supreme court decisions has the NAACP helped win shows a fucking DISGRACEFUL lack of understanding of ones own history).

As far as Jesse and Al go, they are not holding political office, so they aren't going to have much influence on courts and legislation, plus the issues they champion are NOT popular issues that would be taken up by mainstream politicians (remember, ANYTHING they do that benefits black folks is "poverty pimping", what politician in his right mind would support an issue like that? Right?)

trust me...as a previous member of naacp i am not questioning what they have done for the community

i am talking specifically about jackson and sharpton

i understand they arent in public office so they cannot directly pass bills themselves...but they can definitely work with senators and house members to get legislation passed

however....i mainly see press conferences...rallys...and interviews from those two

 

[moblack]

I'm confused....why do you need someone to tell you to read a book? seek knowledge for yourself.

 

[Les W]

I swear, I'm getting to old for these boards. I read idiotic shit like this and I realize that a some of y'all are just young idiots. Never gone to college. Never studied black history. I can't even begin to address this stupid shit.

c/s

even now these simps cant stfu and be united - they fighting over 'who held who back more'

that is exactly why stupid ass entertainers make millions of dollars and still end up locked up for dumb shit imo

live bishes

 

[linequoter]

trust me...as a previous member of naacp i am not questioning what they have done for the community

i am talking specifically about jackson and sharpton

i understand they arent in public office so they cannot directly pass bills themselves...but they can definitely work with senators and house members to get legislation passed

however....i mainly see press conferences...rallys...and interviews from those two

Politically speaking, Jesse has done plenty. I don't need to speak on it because his resume speaks for itself and it's available online for you.

And Al has never really been about that legislation and all that. Legislation never seemed to be his main focus. With that said, he has worked with Congressmen and other political figures. It never really got any air time, but I guess that's a good thing, because if it did get air time he would've been accused of "attention whoring." The man can't win no matter what he does.

Honestly, Black people need to realize how dynamic things are regarding our community and our progress. There's not only ONE way. Politics isn't the ONLY way. Progress is something that is achieved through many avenues. And to undercut what someone does because it's not the avenue you prefer is wrong. Tavis can do his journalism and still be for black progress. Chris Rock and other comedians can tell some jokes an still be for Black progress. Nas can keep making thought provoking music and contribute to Black progress through that. Cornell West and Michael Eric Dyson can keep writing books and lecturing as professors. It's so broad, and in the end these people want the same thing.

"It's often easier to give advice/
Then it is for a person to run one's own life"
-Guru of Gangstarr

We always want to be like..."they need to do it this way." Or "They're not really helping black people, because there not doing this or that."

This shit gets us nowhere.