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Koya Graham did not vote for president in 2016 and says she has no regrets.

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When Koya Graham turned 18, the first thing she did was register to vote.

And, year after year, the Cleveland native faithfully voted for Democrats — that is, until the 2016 presidential election.

"I'm not interested anymore," Graham told NPR in the Spring of 2016. "I don't see any immediate, significant changes happening."


And Graham was not alone. It's been estimated that millions of people who voted for Barack Obama in 2012 stayed home in 2016. A recent analysis inThe New York Times puts the exact figure at 4.4 million — and approximates that an outsized number of those non-voters (36 percent) were black.

Black voter turnout fell seven percentage points in the last election, plummeting from 66.6 percent in 2012 to 59.6 percent in 2016, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau. Many analysts say a natural drop-off was expected in the post-Barack Obama era. But the 2016 voter turnout for African-Americans was not just lower than the Obama years, it was even slightly lower than the 2004 election between George W. Bush and John Kerry.


One key question this political season is whether African-Americans still feel they have a home in the Democratic Party — a party that has relied on their votes for decades.

Graham, now 38, insists she has no regrets for bypassing the election.

She said the Trump presidency has kind of turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

"I think for our people, for my people, this is probably the best thing that could have happened," she said at a coffee shop in Cleveland. "The veil has been lifted."

Graham said the country's underbelly of racism is being exposed. "We've always had our blinders on ... and even though it's unfortunate where we are now, I'm glad that it has happened because America is being seen for the country that it is."

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Latson didn't vote in 2016 and said a number of his friends didn't vote either, for similar reasons. The 26-year-old — who likes to quote Malcolm X and sports the activist's signature style of horn rimmed glasses — said he has no intention of voting in 2018. He no longer sees voting as an effective way to change the system, he said — but adds that his apathy toward voting is a personal opinion and perhaps voting works for other people.

"I'm not saying you shouldn't vote," Latson said. "You just need to be more cautious with your vote and stop being willing to just throw a ballot out there off of emotion."

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Kelton Latson, 26, didn't vote for president in 2016 and has no intention of voting in the 2018 election.

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Voting — but still frustrated

The frustration isn't limited to non-voters. Even some young African-Americans who cast a ballot in 2016 and are working within traditional party politics say Democrats seem to take black votes for granted. And they're tired of that relationship.

"They just kind of expect us to jump on board," said Ifeolu Claytor, a 23-year-old working with the Ohio Young Black Democrats. "And that's something that needs to change, clearly, cause black millennials will just stay at home. It's not 1980 where people are still kind of fresh, like, 'oh, our parents just got the right to vote.'"


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Ifeolu Claytor, 23, (right) and Gabrielle Jackson, 28, (far left) check out a social media voting video on Esosa Osa's phone. All three are members of the Northeast Ohio Young Black Democrats.

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Claytor also said the party seems too focused on courting middle class white voters.

"Focusing on WASPy [white anglo-saxon protestant], middle class issues is not going to win in 2018 or 2020," he said.

Claytor added that a lot of black people feel left behind by the Democratic Party: They want to hear more about criminal justice reform and wealth disparity from politicians.

Gabrielle Jackson, the president of the Northeast Ohio Young Black Democrats, said she understands Claytor's frustration, but that the situation is improving.

"We've had almost every gubernatorial candidate ... come talk to us about our issues," she said. "[In 2016] Democrats didn't do that. They refused to talk to us in a lot of cases... These people are recognizing that in order to win, you cannot ignore us, and if you do, you will lose."

Convincing the base

Part of voter turnout is about speaking to the issues that matter most to voters. But another key component is mobilization.

In both the Virginia gubernatorial race and the Alabama senate race in 2017, black voters were specifically courted and mobilized; and post-election analysis suggests black voters, particularly black women, were key to the Democrats' victories in both states.

"In Alabama, we knocked on about 500,000 doors," said Adrianne Shropshire, executive director of BlackPAC, a superPAC that worked with partners on the ground to mobilize voters. "We talked to people on their doors. Both in Alabama and Virginia — ran canvass programs where people from the community were out talking to their neighbors."

The lesson from the Alabama mobilization strategy was that you can never have too much voter contact — organizers contacted voters early and often, they weren't merely dropping off pamphlets three weeks before election day. And a bulk of the outreach was done on a grassroots level.

According to Andra Gillespie, a political science professor at Emory University, Democrats need to critically reconsider whether their traditional mobilization efforts are sufficient.


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Part of the problem, she said, is that because black voters are considered a base voter for the Democratic party — meaning there's an assumption that an overwhelming majority of African-Americans will vote Democratic — they are often overlooked.

"There is a tendency for the Democratic Party to focus on other groups where the margin is actually going to be more narrow," Gillespie said.

And as a result, Gillespie sees, even loyal Democrats feel there's a tendency to "paper over" concerns that matter most to black voters.

"It's not just a 2016 problem. It's not just a 2018 problem," she said. "It is the type of thing that sparked the candidacy of Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988... it was the kind of thing that precipitated Maxine Waters threatening to walk out of the DNC in 2000... it was the kind of thing that spurred Al Sharpton's candidacy in 2004."

There's an assumption that black voters don't need to be persuaded to vote for Democrats. But Shropshire said they do.

"Black voters, in particular, want to understand how Democrats are gonna to address a whole range of racial justice issues, and so running away from those issues is a non-starter," she said.

Beyond traditional Democratic policies around the economy and healthcare, some of the voters NPR talked to say they want to hear candidates talking about criminal justice reform or racial tension.

"The anti-Trump sentiment is not enough, we have to tell people what to vote for, who to vote for," said Quentin James, founder of Collective PAC, an organization working to get black candidates into elected office.

In 2016, despite the dip in turnout, African-Americans still overwhelmingly voted Democrat, so there's no realistic assumption they will shift to the Republican party en masse this November.

Shropshire said the fear is that they'll just stay home.



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The people in the article contradict each other.

"I'm not interested anymore," Graham told NPR in the Spring of 2016. "I don't see any immediate, significant changes happening.

She said the Trump presidency has kind of turned out to be a blessing in disguise.
"I think for our people, for my people, this is probably the best thing that could have happened," she said at a coffee shop in Cleveland. "The veil has been lifted.



Which is it? Is the veil lifted because of Tump or no changes happening with Trump. I don’t see an all Black resistance forming like the Tea party did.

The title of the article should be ‘Black people ok with White people staying in power’.
 

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I think in the future black people will become Independents and will block vote if the Democratic politicians keep ignoring black issues.

That’s the wrong solution then.

Follow the Tea parties example. Take over a party and the Republican Party has zero chance of that.

How many moderate republicans are left. Tea partiers ran them all off
 

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That’s the wrong solution then.

Follow the Tea parties example. Take over a party and the Republican Party has zero chance of that.

How many moderate republicans are left. Tea partiers ran them all off

Well being ignored and saving the Democratic party over and over again and watching other POC's and gays move forward is not the business either.
 

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I agree that Dems have taken the black vote for granted way too long.

But unless millennials are working to either create a viable third-party that will quickly and directly impact black issues, or themselves willing to step up and run for office to make changes from within, the "not voting" strategy is poor at the current time.

FWIW, some of these millennials are actually doing some decent work on a grassroots level; a LOT more, IMO, are social media crusaders who are currently living in a world where they want it to be the way they want (hours, pay) and instead, based on their college major choices and debt-load, are in full blame mode about the state of the world, so being a "not voting" social media crusader gives them validation. JMHO.
 

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Well being ignored and saving the Democratic party over and over again and watching other POC's and gays move forward is not the business either.
That’s not a solution.

1. Form own political party 13% population
2. Take over Democratic party like the Tea party did
3. Take over Republican party like Tea party
4. Don’t vote and no one will worry about Black issues.
5. Vote independent and vote republican

Any other real solutions?
 

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The people in the article contradict each other.

"I'm not interested anymore," Graham told NPR in the Spring of 2016. "I don't see any immediate, significant changes happening.

She said the Trump presidency has kind of turned out to be a blessing in disguise.
"I think for our people, for my people, this is probably the best thing that could have happened," she said at a coffee shop in Cleveland. "The veil has been lifted.



Which is it? Is the veil lifted because of Tump or no changes happening with Trump. I don’t see an all Black resistance forming like the Tea party did.

The title of the article should be ‘Black people ok with White people staying in power’.


It isn't a contradiction....It just isn't the cheerleading you do.

The veil has been lifted and for black people, there really hasn't been any significant changes.

Notice all the school shootings? Those are white people shooting up white schools/students.

We were oppressed and brutalized before Trump so stop acting like it started with him.\

Cops were killing us before Trump and weren't held accountable so what has changed for us ?
 

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POLITICS[/paste:font]
Black Voters Need More Convincing From Democrats In 2018
March 17, 20187:01 AM ET

ASMA KHALID


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Koya Graham did not vote for president in 2016 and says she has no regrets.

Asma Khalid /NPR
When Koya Graham turned 18, the first thing she did was register to vote.

And, year after year, the Cleveland native faithfully voted for Democrats — that is, until the 2016 presidential election.

"I'm not interested anymore," Graham told NPR in the Spring of 2016. "I don't see any immediate, significant changes happening."


And Graham was not alone. It's been estimated that millions of people who voted for Barack Obama in 2012 stayed home in 2016. A recent analysis inThe New York Times puts the exact figure at 4.4 million — and approximates that an outsized number of those non-voters (36 percent) were black.

Black voter turnout fell seven percentage points in the last election, plummeting from 66.6 percent in 2012 to 59.6 percent in 2016, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau. Many analysts say a natural drop-off was expected in the post-Barack Obama era. But the 2016 voter turnout for African-Americans was not just lower than the Obama years, it was even slightly lower than the 2004 election between George W. Bush and John Kerry.


One key question this political season is whether African-Americans still feel they have a home in the Democratic Party — a party that has relied on their votes for decades.

Graham, now 38, insists she has no regrets for bypassing the election.

She said the Trump presidency has kind of turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

"I think for our people, for my people, this is probably the best thing that could have happened," she said at a coffee shop in Cleveland. "The veil has been lifted."

Graham said the country's underbelly of racism is being exposed. "We've always had our blinders on ... and even though it's unfortunate where we are now, I'm glad that it has happened because America is being seen for the country that it is."

Article continues after sponsorship

Latson didn't vote in 2016 and said a number of his friends didn't vote either, for similar reasons. The 26-year-old — who likes to quote Malcolm X and sports the activist's signature style of horn rimmed glasses — said he has no intention of voting in 2018. He no longer sees voting as an effective way to change the system, he said — but adds that his apathy toward voting is a personal opinion and perhaps voting works for other people.

"I'm not saying you shouldn't vote," Latson said. "You just need to be more cautious with your vote and stop being willing to just throw a ballot out there off of emotion."

ohio-037-e3d138f149f2e12943979cf4990cd1e843f2df24-s700-c85.jpg


Kelton Latson, 26, didn't vote for president in 2016 and has no intention of voting in the 2018 election.

Asma Khalid/NPR
Voting — but still frustrated

The frustration isn't limited to non-voters. Even some young African-Americans who cast a ballot in 2016 and are working within traditional party politics say Democrats seem to take black votes for granted. And they're tired of that relationship.

"They just kind of expect us to jump on board," said Ifeolu Claytor, a 23-year-old working with the Ohio Young Black Democrats. "And that's something that needs to change, clearly, cause black millennials will just stay at home. It's not 1980 where people are still kind of fresh, like, 'oh, our parents just got the right to vote.'"


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Ifeolu Claytor, 23, (right) and Gabrielle Jackson, 28, (far left) check out a social media voting video on Esosa Osa's phone. All three are members of the Northeast Ohio Young Black Democrats.

Asma Khalid/NPR
Claytor also said the party seems too focused on courting middle class white voters.

"Focusing on WASPy [white anglo-saxon protestant], middle class issues is not going to win in 2018 or 2020," he said.

Claytor added that a lot of black people feel left behind by the Democratic Party: They want to hear more about criminal justice reform and wealth disparity from politicians.

Gabrielle Jackson, the president of the Northeast Ohio Young Black Democrats, said she understands Claytor's frustration, but that the situation is improving.

"We've had almost every gubernatorial candidate ... come talk to us about our issues," she said. "[In 2016] Democrats didn't do that. They refused to talk to us in a lot of cases... These people are recognizing that in order to win, you cannot ignore us, and if you do, you will lose."

Convincing the base

Part of voter turnout is about speaking to the issues that matter most to voters. But another key component is mobilization.

In both the Virginia gubernatorial race and the Alabama senate race in 2017, black voters were specifically courted and mobilized; and post-election analysis suggests black voters, particularly black women, were key to the Democrats' victories in both states.

"In Alabama, we knocked on about 500,000 doors," said Adrianne Shropshire, executive director of BlackPAC, a superPAC that worked with partners on the ground to mobilize voters. "We talked to people on their doors. Both in Alabama and Virginia — ran canvass programs where people from the community were out talking to their neighbors."

The lesson from the Alabama mobilization strategy was that you can never have too much voter contact — organizers contacted voters early and often, they weren't merely dropping off pamphlets three weeks before election day. And a bulk of the outreach was done on a grassroots level.

According to Andra Gillespie, a political science professor at Emory University, Democrats need to critically reconsider whether their traditional mobilization efforts are sufficient.


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Part of the problem, she said, is that because black voters are considered a base voter for the Democratic party — meaning there's an assumption that an overwhelming majority of African-Americans will vote Democratic — they are often overlooked.

"There is a tendency for the Democratic Party to focus on other groups where the margin is actually going to be more narrow," Gillespie said.

And as a result, Gillespie sees, even loyal Democrats feel there's a tendency to "paper over" concerns that matter most to black voters.

"It's not just a 2016 problem. It's not just a 2018 problem," she said. "It is the type of thing that sparked the candidacy of Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988... it was the kind of thing that precipitated Maxine Waters threatening to walk out of the DNC in 2000... it was the kind of thing that spurred Al Sharpton's candidacy in 2004."

There's an assumption that black voters don't need to be persuaded to vote for Democrats. But Shropshire said they do.

"Black voters, in particular, want to understand how Democrats are gonna to address a whole range of racial justice issues, and so running away from those issues is a non-starter," she said.

Beyond traditional Democratic policies around the economy and healthcare, some of the voters NPR talked to say they want to hear candidates talking about criminal justice reform or racial tension.

"The anti-Trump sentiment is not enough, we have to tell people what to vote for, who to vote for," said Quentin James, founder of Collective PAC, an organization working to get black candidates into elected office.

In 2016, despite the dip in turnout, African-Americans still overwhelmingly voted Democrat, so there's no realistic assumption they will shift to the Republican party en masse this November.

Shropshire said the fear is that they'll just stay home.



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This is all I have been saying consistently.

Stop allowing the GOP to set the narrative and then spending time trying to refute it.

Stop letting Pelosi and Schumer get infront of the cameras and speak, get some younger more aggressive and exciting people to be the face and voice of the party.

Work and getting a message and getting it out.

And stop taking black votes for granted
 

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It isn't a contradiction....It just isn't the cheerleading you do.

The veil has been lifted and for black people, there really hasn't been any significant changes.

Notice all the school shootings? Those are white people shooting up white schools/students.

We were oppressed and brutalized before Trump so stop acting like it started with him.\

Cops were killing us before Trump and weren't held accountable so what has changed for us ?
Stop using we were blah blah before Trump. Everything is worse under Trump so stop being dishonest.

Come out of fantasy world and debate the real world. Unless a virus targets white people only and wipes them off the face of the earth there will always be injustice towards Black people.

Offer real solutions or be quiet
 

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Sheer ignorance. Voting isn't going to magically change anything. But tell me, what else ya got? In order to have any kind of voice in politics (ie.: where the money goes) you'd better have someone YOU voted for in congress.

Voting isn't the problem. Not holding politicians accountable is. It doesn't end with casting a ballot. We should be in constant touch with our local, state and federal politicians. In this day and age it's so simple to send an email anyone who doesn't should be ashamed of themselves.
 

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Stop using we were blah blah before Trump. Everything is worse under Trump so stop being dishonest.

Come out of fantasy world and debate the real world. Unless a virus targets white people only and wipes them off the face of the earth there will always be injustice towards Black people.

Offer real solutions or be quiet

What's worse ?

Are more of use getting killed and more of them getting away with it ?

Are less of us being allowed to join private sector unions ?

Are more of us being overcharged and over sentenced ?

Are more of our schools under resourced ?

What's worse for us ?

Damn shame you are uninterested in the Democrats ditching their poor strategies and doing better in creating and owning their message.

You just are an apologist for them.
 

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Sheer ignorance. Voting isn't going to magically change anything. But tell me, what else ya got? In order to have any kind of voice in politics (ie.: where the money goes) you'd better have someone YOU voted for in congress.

Voting isn't the problem. Not holding politicians accountable is. It doesn't end with casting a ballot. We should be in constant touch with our local, state and federal politicians. In this day and age it's so simple to send an email anyone who doesn't should be ashamed of themselves.

I agree with this....In fact there should be demands and concerns made before you give your vote and then as you say hold them to those promises
 

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FOH with that BULLSHIT.

All ANYONE with sense -regardless of color, \ is doing who is voting Democrat for senators and representatives is trying to get this madman/petulant child/public white supremacist/potential dictator the fuck out of office, since the Republicans seem committed to going along with whatever fuckery he proposes - no matter how insane or evil.
 

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This is all I have been saying consistently.

Stop allowing the GOP to set the narrative and then spending time trying to refute it.

Stop letting Pelosi and Schumer get infront of the cameras and speak, get some younger more aggressive and exciting people to be the face and voice of the party.

Work and getting a message and getting it out.

And stop taking black votes for granted
The GOP set the narrative because voters allow them to. Everything Trump does there are no consaquences because people like you allow the GOP to run the country.

Your only solution is repeating russian propaganda blah blah blah Democrats taking Black vote for granted. Ignoring they are the only party talking about Black issues.

Stop using talking points and present a real solution.
 
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What's worse ?

Are more of use getting killed and more of them getting away with it ?

Are less of us being allowed to join private sector unions ?

Are more of us being overcharged and over sentenced ?

Are more of our schools under resourced ?

What's worse for us ?

Damn shame you are uninterested in the Democrats ditching their poor strategies and doing better in creating and owning their message.

You just are an apologist for them.
everything you posted is worse under republicans. FACT

I started talking about voting out a republican light Democrat and you go off the rails.

What are you arguing? Are you happy Lipinski won? Newman ran on clear cut issues and still lost.

Solution? What should she ran on since you have a problem with her campaign and not Lipinski.
 

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The GOP set the narrative because voters allow them to. Everything Trump does there are no consaquenced because people like you allow the GOP to run the country.

Your only solution is repeating russian propaganda blah blah blah Democrats taking Black vote for granted. Ignoring they are the only party talking about Black issues.

Stop using talking points and present a real solution.

You are a Stepford voter who has no clue wtf you are talking about...

The GOP sets the narrative because the Democrats are poor at messaging.
 

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everything you posted is worse under republicans. FACT

I started talking about voting out a republican light Democrat and you go off the rails.

What are you arguing? Are you happy Lipinski won? Newman ran on clear cut issues and still lost.

Solution? What should she ran on since you have a problem with her campaign and not Lipinski.

R U fukkn retarded ?

Where did I say I had a problem with her campaign...I have a problem with the democratic establishment playing kingmaker and supporting certain candidates over others.


And you are a fukkn liar , you have never talked about getting rid of blue dogs and in fact, you are the one who says democrats have to move further right.
 

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It’s not convincing that black voters need from the Democrats...

It’s just that shit needs to be addressed and solved by the Democrats.
 

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R U fukkn retarded ?

Where did I say I had a problem with her campaign...I have a problem with the democratic establishment playing kingmaker and supporting certain candidates over others.


And you are a fukkn liar , you have never talked about getting rid of blue dogs and in fact, you are the one who says democrats have to move further right.
What the fuck are you arguing about. Just because you post something doesn’t make everything else untrue. That’s some ego you have.

Yes some establishment democrats back Lipinski. Some republicans took Democrat ballet and voted for him also. What are you argueing about....

If you vote Democrat it’s ok but anyone else is giving their vote away huh.
 

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You are a Stepford voter who has no clue wtf you are talking about...

The GOP sets the narrative because the Democrats are poor at messaging.
Bullshit and I already proved you wrong with Obamacare.

Every detail of Obamacare was presented to the public over and over again yet the general population doesn’t know it’s the same as the ACA.

The GOP flat out lie and people like you repeat it when you are supposedly not a republican.

If you are the ideal Democrat and act like this what’s that say for Democrats.
 

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Bullshit and I already proved you wrong with Obamacare.

Every detail of Obamacare was presented to the public over and over again yet the general population doesn’t know it’s the same as the ACA.

The GOP flat out lie and people like you repeat it when you are supposedly not a republican.

If you are
the ideal Democrat and act like this what’s that say for Democrats.


Just shut up......you are fukkn retarded
 

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In order for us to see changes. Black People should remain independent until Democrats or Republicans offer solutions. Until then do not vote.

To me trump presidency is the best thing to happen. Everybody that is NonWhite or a women, is being put under the bus, not just blacks. Even those spanish wanna be white fuckers that voted for trump are getting there N1gga wake up call and are about to be deported. Shit look at Puerto Rico?

Open White Supremecy is the best thing because that will wake n1ggas up. You can tell Black Folks are more awake and more on code today, then say 10-20 Years ago.

If Hilary had won, we would have gotten more of the same shit, and Groups like Gays, Tranny's and immigrants would have there agenda process, and we do all this voting and get nothing in return.

Fuck that Don't vote until they offer tangibles.
 

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I hear ya,, I flipped over to Independent before the last pres election!!
Are you voting republican then?

Electing Trump was suppose to be the wake up call to show Democrats not to take the Black vote for granted. Not working.
 

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In order for us to see changes. Black People should remain independent until Democrats or Republicans offer solutions. Until then do not vote.

To me trump presidency is the best thing to happen. Everybody that is NonWhite or a women, is being put under the bus, not just blacks. Even those spanish wanna be white fuckers that voted for trump are getting there N1gga wake up call and are about to be deported. Shit look at Puerto Rico?

Open White Supremecy is the best thing because that will wake n1ggas up. You can tell Black Folks are more awake and more on code today, then say 10-20 Years ago.

If Hilary had won, we would have gotten more of the same shit, and Groups like Gays, Tranny's and immigrants would have there agenda process, and we do all this voting and get nothing in return.

Fuck that Don't vote until they offer tangibles.
This only works if white people cared what Trump and republicans do. They don’t

Republicans didn’t give a shit about the Black vote and run the entire country.
 

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One the Democratic Party is being run by 70 and 80 year old people.You cannot grow as an progressive organizaition when your leaders were teenagers in the 1960's.
 

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One the Democratic Party is being run by 70 and 80 year old people.You cannot grow as an progressive organizaition when your leaders were teenagers in the 1960's.


I have said this ad nauseam but it gets ignored by the excuse makers.

I also said stop allowing those old leaders to be the face and voice of the party because they are too professorial and have a hard time with messaging that reaches the masses.

You could let the senior people like Schumer and Pelosi remain as leaders but not speakers,

Use Harris, Ellison, Kennedy, Patrick.........and others who can excite young voters, black voters, women voters ,new voters, old voters
 

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Well being ignored and saving the Democratic party over and over again and watching other POC's and gays move forward is not the business either.
But but "we have to save the country from it's self"
"A rising tide lifts all boats"

You can't reason with people sick like this fam
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Soul On Ice

Democrat 1st!
Certified Pussy Poster

Soul On Ice

Democrat 1st!
Certified Pussy Poster
Are you voting republican then?

Electing Trump was suppose to be the wake up call to show Democrats not to take the Black vote for granted. Not working.
You just admitted that they don't give a Fuck about us.
Thanks for that.

The first step is admitting you have a problem
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Big Tex

Earth is round..gravity is real
BGOL Investor
I have said this ad nauseam but it gets ignored by the excuse makers.

I also said stop allowing those old leaders to be the face and voice of the party because they are too professorial and have a hard time with messaging that reaches the masses.

You could let the senior people like Schumer and Pelosi remain as leaders but not speakers,

Use Harris, Ellison, Kennedy, Patrick.........and others who can excite young voters, black voters, women voters ,new voters, old voters

No one over 55 should be considered. Time for a change.
 
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