This is a devastating blow to the gay marriage movement.
Breaking: California supreme court: upholds Prop 8
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sorry for you and your life partner
Bro l am straight as an arrow.
Ban!!!
then why the fuck do you care about faggots. fuck a faggot, if you care about faggots....then......
I don't care about them. I am just reporting the news
i'll tell you why this thing didn't pass:
the gay pride parades.
i'm serious.
that shit is scary, disgusting, offensive, disturbing, and the worst thing they could do for themselves public relations wise.
they want to be accepted, but the face of the gay community to most folks is a six foot 5 drag queen with muscles looking like he'll tie you up and subvert your kids.
they need to step back and address that shit, but are so rabid to FORCE acceptance of their lifestyles.
it's not my fight one way or the other, but they need to get this before they can gain wide support.
the gay pride parades.
i'm serious.
that shit is scary, disgusting, offensive, disturbing, and the worst thing they could do for themselves public relations wise.
they want to be accepted, but the face of the gay community to most folks is a six foot 5 drag queen with muscles looking like he'll tie you up and subvert your kids.
they need to step back and address that shit, but are so rabid to FORCE acceptance of their lifestyles.
it's not my fight one way or the other, but they need to get this before they can gain wide support.
Most sensible people care about just laws (rather than bigoted ones), whether they apply to "fa**ots," women or blacks. Straight white men have nothing to worry about. Are you one of them?
dude nooone gives a fuck about faggots, I'm glad that shit didn't pass. Fuck a faggot...you responded by saying it's a blow against gay rights. You said that as if you sympathized with them....if I made a topic about this, which I wouldn't in a million years. I would have said ."The faggots get rejected!"but hey, if you say you are reporting the news.......
I don't support gay marriage. In no uncertain terms is my thread supposed to be an endorsement of gay marriage. I decided to use fair minded words in describing this "blow" to the gay rights movement.
kinda harsh...
all I know about you is what you tell me....so....
Stop behaving like a pea brained troll
QFT.................
dude let's keep this real I didn't insult you. You kept a cool head even though I came in here accusing you. So you fill me in and tell me how you stand. So I squash it and say all I know about you is what you tell me. I didn't insult you, there is no need for you to insult me.
Halo WTF are you blabbering on about?????
I insulted you for the reckless statements you made.
Post script: I will take back my statement that you behave like pea brained troll. That one is reserved for blunt
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/26/prop-8-decision-upheld-by_n_207697.html
SAN FRANCISCO — The California Supreme Court has upheld a voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, but it also decided that the estimated 18,000 gay couples who tied the knot before the law took effect will stay wed.
The decision Tuesday rejected an argument by gay rights activists that the ban revised the California constitution's equal protection clause to such a dramatic degree that it first needed the Legislature's approval.
The announcement of the decision caused outcry among a sea of demonstrators who had gathered in front of the San Francisco courthouse awaiting the ruling.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) _ The nation's most populous state stood poised to recapture the spotlight in the debate over gay marriage as California's highest court prepared to rule on the legality of a voter-approved ban on same-sex unions.
The California Supreme Court planned to hand down its decision Tuesday in a series of lawsuits seeking to overturn November's Proposition 8. Gay rights advocates maintain the ballot measure so dramatically revised the state constitution's equal protection clause that it needed the Legislature's approval before it could be put to voters.
If the seven-member court upholds the initiative as a constitutional expression of the electorate's will, it also will be deciding whether to sustain the marriages of an estimated 18,000 gay couples who wed before the measure passed with 52 percent of the vote.
Proposition 8 superseded the Supreme Court's May 2008 ruling that legalized same-sex unions by changing the state constitution to outlaw them. In that 4-3 decision, the court majority invalidated California's marriage statutes, holding that denying same-sex couples the right to wed amounted to state-sanctioned discrimination.
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But based on the skeptical questions raised during oral arguments, legal experts have doubted the same four justices would undermine California's powerful citizen initiative process by invalidating the new ban.
Since that March hearing, however, three other states _ Iowa, Maine and Vermont _ have joined Massachusetts and Connecticut in making same-sex marriage legal. The trend has offered gay rights advocates hope that the court might elect to make California the sixth state to extend marriage to gays and lesbians.
"Many of us are heading into Tuesday filled with both hope and determination," said Kate Kendell, executive director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights. "And we need to be clear that regardless of how the court rules, we will need both for whatever the next steps are."
Gay rights advocates have scheduled marches throughout California and in several other states for Tuesday evening. Organizers say the gatherings will be celebratory if the court rules in their favor and angry if Proposition 8 is upheld.
Activists in the San Francisco Bay area, including several clergy members, said they planned to block the street outside the courthouse and to be arrested in a mass show of civil disobedience if the justices do not invalidate the measure.
"Words are not enough right now. We believe it's time to put our bodies on the line to show that separate is not equal," said Kip Williams, an activist with One Struggle, One Fight, a group that was launched in response to Proposition 8's passage.
In tense anticipation of the news to come, about 400 same-sex marriage supporters attended an interfaith prayer service held Monday night at San Francisco's Episcopal Grace Cathedral.
The Rev. Roland Stringfellow, with the Pacific School of Religion, said the service was meant to show how many communities of faith stand with gay couples on this issue. Among those to offer prayers were a Sikh mother, a Buddhist nun, a Jewish rabbi and Episcopal Bishop Marc Andrus.
Proposition 8's supporters, meanwhile, have not planned any organized events to accompany the decision. If a court majority invalidates the measure, angry voters would funnel their energy into unseating the justices who went along with the decision, predicted Frank Schubert, who managed the successful Yes on 8 campaign.
"If the court were to go as far as throwing it out, saying the people do not have the power to amend their constitution, then they are going to have to ultimately answer to the people," Schubert said.
One couple who will be anxiously awaiting the ruling are Karen Strauss and Ruth Borenstein, the lead plaintiffs in one of the lawsuits challenging Proposition 8.
The two women, partners for 17 years, had wanted to marry in the presence of their parents, who live in Florida. But Strauss' 84-year-old mother is dying of cancer, and they now realize she won't live long enough to attend their dream wedding no matter what.
"People who don't know us, who have nothing to lose by our decisions, had the opportunity to decide for us this most private and personal decision," said Strauss, 51, who will be across the country at her mother's bedside when the decision comes down. "That is a personally painful position to be in, whichever way it goes."
maybe cali citizens aren't as liberal as they claim. maybe it's the wrong time for this law. either way its a good learning point
More importantly, and unfortunately, it's a victory for those that a) they're personal beliefs should be enforced through the state and b) those that think people's rights should be decided through referendum.
Black folks amaze me when they don't see the problem with someone else getting stepped on, like it can't/won't/hasn't happened to us.
It doesn't matter what anyone's personal opinion is on gay marriage, if two consenting adults want to do it, let them. No one says you have to have the ceremony in your church/mosque/synagogue but all Americans should have equal protection under that law and the right to enjoy equal benefits.
Black folks amaze me when they don't see the problem with someone else getting stepped on, like it can't/won't/hasn't happened to us.
It doesn't matter what anyone's personal opinion is on gay marriage, if two consenting adults want to do it, let them. No one says you have to have the ceremony in your church/mosque/synagogue but all Americans should have equal protection under that law and the right to enjoy equal benefits.
Go back 60 years and that'd be
Massa taught his lessons well
Co-sign. We'll see the end of state-recognized marriages and civil unions for anyone who wants them before you see legal gay MARRIAGE
c/s.
The ignorance and homophobia in these types of threads is astounding, and sad. Like proud little hitlers running around spouting off. "Methinks thou doth protest too much."
It doesn't make you cool, or more straight, to hate gay folks. It makes you a small minded bigot. Grow up.
Dude... if ever I've seen a "the lady doth protest too much" comment, this is it.
Truth is, if you don't care about gay people, you don't care if they get married or not. By default, Americans who don't care will support gay marriage if they have any political inclination to speak on it.
No, it's the homophobes and the artificially pious who need to fuck with gay people.
Cacs oops Cats on Huffpo are mad as hell
...so brothers are now dissing the huffington post as "cacs?"
Can't wait to see y'all dissing Keith Olbermann tonight... You people are fucking ridiculous.
Why don't you go over to FOX News since they will likely agree with your positions. You sheep would join the Klan if they'd let you. You agree with their philosophy, it's only that one detail that they won't let you join.
Damn homie you have a lot of hate in you. You must have been raped by a gay man. Its okay brah let it out. Go look at some more porn and say "I am a man" in the mirror a few times until you feel better
Co-sign. I really should have learned by now not to peak my head in these threads.