"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"- Henry Kissinger
BREAKING: U.S. pausing all military aid to Ukraine
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Over the past 500 years, Western Europe built a world that it looted, occupied, ruled and shaped to its will.
They took black people in Africa, enslaved them and refused to pay reparations. Now they're fighting each other why should anyone feel sorry for them? France still colonises those French-speaking countries in West Africa.
Let them eat cake.
It should be obvious to anyone that the meeting with Zelenskyy where Trump and his little bitch Vance bum rushed the Ukrainian leader was just a setup to pave the way for Trump to cease all military aid to Ukraine. That alone should convince anyone who is not a MAGA mindless asshole that Putin has Trump in his pocket. Whatever it is that Vlad has on Donald must be really damning. What else could account for Trump constantly running down America while praising Putin and Russia at every opportunity?
REMINDS one of the KOREAN WAR in 1950. South Korea’s President also refused to negotiate a Peace Settlement with China until President Eisenhower told him if he didn’t he was going to END all aid and military support for South Korea. He suddenly decided to Negotiate.
trump keep throwing around the word deal but zelensky and the ukranians ain't dumb. he tried to shake zelensky and ukraine down before and this time it's worse. we getting the rare earth minerals and ukraine getting what out of this ....deal? all zelensky/ukraine want is american troops on the ground to deter Russia. trump keep glossing over that part and really just can't be trusted to either go through it or uphold that ....deal.
Do you know how aid works or......
If by this you're intimating that Trump cutting off all military aid to Ukraine is his way of getting Zelenskyy to negotiate, seems the goal is to force him to capitulate rather than negotiate. Big difference...
So you rather the US continue to support an unelected dictator with Nazi troops lol got ya
As long as the democrats tell them too, they will.
Putin had a democratic election?
Ukrainians are straight up snatching people off the streets for this war.
Shit is crazy.
There is a time to surrender and a time to keep fighting....raise the white flag
I love when people bring up the nazi thing like this country isn't full of nazis
You spelled Russia wrong.
Dude there are actual armed Nazis in Ukraine
Canada made a fool out itself for giving a former Ukrainian Nazi a standing ovation in Parliament.
He actually did..but zelensky was installed after a coup backed by the United States. He's actively killing Christians. So again you're supporting a dictator because the Democrats tell you to.
Exactly
What? You don't find it strange that anyone who runs against Putin ends up in prison or dead? I guess we are dumb sheep.
So let's say Putin is bad..ok...is zelensky good? No so your choosing one dictator over another just because the Democrats installed him and gave him billions lol
Lets say we are the ones who installed him isn't that a good thing? I thought Russia was a adversary of ours. We let Russia spend billions and lose lives with no US troops.
You wish lol
Ukraine war: Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding
Public transport, cafes and supermarkets are now off limits to men trying to avoid being enlisted.
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Conscription squads send Ukrainian men into hiding
Dark storm clouds threatened to upend Serhiy and Tania’s beach wedding. But as the couple walked down the long white staircase to greet their guests, the empty chairs signalled there was a bigger problem. In total, half of their guests were missing.
Their family and friends sent their apologies but explained that the risk of attending had been too great. What if they had been caught by one of the conscription squads, which now roam Ukraine’s streets?
With many of its soldiers dead, injured or exhausted, the Ukrainian government has stepped up its efforts to mobilise more men.
A new law, introduced in May, requires every man aged between 25 and 60 to log their details on an electronic database so they can be called up. Conscription officers are on the hunt for those avoiding the register, pushing more men who do not want to serve into hiding.
Family handout Tania sits with her sister, mother and father in a restaurant by the seaFamily handout
Tania pictured here in Odesa with her father, who was killed on the front line in eastern Ukraine in October
Overlooking the Black Sea in the southern city of Odesa, Tania quietly murmured that she understood why her friends and family did not want to fight.
Her father was killed on the front line in October, during the attritional battle for Avdiivka, and the 24-year-old is now terrified of her new husband being conscripted. “I don’t want this to happen to my family twice,” she said.
More than two years into the war, almost everyone knows someone who has been killed. Grim news has poured out from the front, of Ukraine being vastly outnumbered and outgunned.
Over the phone, the couple’s friend of 15 years, Maksym, relayed such tales. Among the dead are around a dozen of his friends and acquaintances. “There are more than a million police officers in Ukraine, why should I fight when they are not?" he said.
Maksym, who has a young daughter and wife who is seven months pregnant, said he was sorry to miss the wedding but was afraid of being “grabbed” by conscription officers who he likened to “bandits”.
Thanyarat Doksone/BBC Conscription officers Anatoliy (in sunglasses) and Oleksiy stop a man on the streets of Odesa Thanyarat Doksone/BBC
Conscription officers Anatoliy (right) and Oleksiy are stopping men on the streets of Odesa to check if they have submitted their military details, according to the new law
The mobilisation squads have a fearsome reputation, especially in Odesa, for pulling people off buses and from train stations and ferrying them straight to enlistment centres.
For those avoiding the draft, public transport is now off limits. So too are restaurants, supermarkets, and weekend trips to the park to play football.
“I feel like I am in a prison,” Maksym said.
On a Tuesday morning, a dozen conscription officers descended on Odesa’s main train station, led by a seasoned veteran sailor, Anatoliy, and his younger, more muscular counterpart Oleksiy. They paced the forecourt, stopping men of serving age, to check they were registered on the database.
But the well-mannered pair had a tough time finding eligible men. Most were either too young or had received some sort of exemption. After a couple of hours Anatoliy conceded that it was highly possible men were hiding from them.
“Some people run away from us. This happens quite often,” he said. “Others react quite aggressively. I don’t think these people have been brought up well."
Thanyarat Doksone/BBC Military poster shows two soldiers standing with guns in armsThanyarat Doksone/BBC
The new law requires all men aged 25 to 60 to log their details on the database so they can be called up
At the enlistment centre around the corner, an optimistic note taped to the door notified would-be-recruits that those who had come voluntarily could skip the queues. But there were no queues. A lone man sat waiting to be seen.
When I asked whether he was there out of choice, he told me he had been “kidnapped” that morning and brought against his will.
“The officers encircled me so I couldn’t run,” he stuttered in shock. “I’m devastated."
One of the officers at the centre, Vlad, conceded that there were barely any willing volunteers these days. Under the call sign Hora, Vlad fought in some of the fiercest battles along the eastern front line in the Donbas before being struck in the head, chest, and legs by artillery shrapnel.
They need to surrender.
Nothing wrong with that...........
Nothing wrong with that...........
No it's not a good thing to meddle in other countries and install Nazi dictators that the people didn't vote for because we want to protect our own interests. Also not a good thing to threaten a nuclear superpower with NATO on there borders and expect Putin not to act on Ukraine because of it
Oh yeah I forgot the US is no longer a Global power that interferes in other countries politics for our best interests. Who gives a shit if Russia has nukes, they will never use them because it is their only card on the table.
Cool as long as we understand that you will support a dictator as long as the Democrats say it's ok...we are on the same page.
I disagree
Explain how Zelensky is a dictator again? Funny how I never heard anyone calling him a dictator until Trump said it.
lol
Those are disgruntled "whites" with guns that are in Hate groups.
Ukraine has legitimate Nazis that served under Hitler along with the history that goes with it.
US Nazis wouldn't even be accepted into Ukraine Nazi ranks because of impurities.
Thank god, we have the good Nazi's
You mean the fake Nazis
Was he democratically elected? No
Is he ruling by force and killing large groups of people based on their religion? Yes
He's banned an entire religious denomination.
He banned a language group.
If we were talking about any other leader who did this everybody would call said person a dictator.
Served under Hitler?
How old are they? Are they the 120 year olds collecting social security Elon was talking about
They're all "disgruntled whites"
Some just speak a different language
Bgol mad that the nazis ain't getting my tax dollas no mo.
Churchill and FDR turning in they Graves right now
Churchill and FDR turning in they Graves right now