Brian Flores files lawsuit against NFL

Here's the thing. NFL made that hiring/interviewing rule affective in 2019 I think. It's the same rules that apply to the corporate space., so if it's found that other teams interviewed him w/o a proper shot at the position, they would be in violation. The Bill Bellicheck text would be pretty damning.

People talking about a Kap situation are highly misled, as there were no rules/laws in place to protect players/coaches at that time. Hell, these rules are enforceable in just about ALL corporate structures, so he's going to get paid, and I'm sure someone will be throwing a coaching job his way in the near future to stay in the good graces of the public eye.
 
I can’t speak for anyone ...but my brah was Undrafted. He still has to make that paper somehow
NFL checks are the best money most of these dudes will ever get

Short sighted thinking. You know how many never was white people the college system employees. You know how much administration makes?

If you owned part of the team in a profit sharing/stock option compensation arrangement you could get residuals for life.

If Curt Flood thought like these dudes, sports would be stuck in the 50s. Fanstany Football and all the betting associated (another revenue/steam) with it would not exists like it does today if the owner had their slave ways.

The only purpose they serve is overseers of the money who take way more than they are worth.

The current owners never have anything to lose. Why don't they have to put up a yearly franchise fee lile most fantasy owners so that you know that they have skin in the game.

What Ross did was practice sports welfare. All teams who tank do this. But on the legal level it could be considered racketeering because of the betting aspects of the game. Under a regulation or yearly franchise fee system the corruption of tanking and even owners betting (shorting) against their own team thru back channels.

The average in NFL owner makes $250 million per year of the TV deal alone. The players make peanut when ownership are simply management that in the entertainment world would only get 10-25% commission.

These dudes get ripped the fuck off to play in a stank ass stadium that Taylor Swift gets a better percentage to perform iin.

Trust me, if gou get rid off the fat their is plenty cof meat to eat. The NCAA college players have gained more rights in the last 20 years than a bunch of rich guys who
just signed up for a 17th game.
 
You’re on grade A hubba rocks if you think this is anything like the Kaep situation. This is far more serious and dangerous for the league. This is about to expose what we already know and embarrass the league
The most serious issue believe it or not would be the trying to throw the game.. with sports betting on the rise and a multi billion dollar a yr biz ..betters would not like to hear that and would question if games are being fixed.. sports gambling is a huge revenue generator and the real reason why sports returned so fast during covid.. you don’t want sports better feel like they getting haggled
 
The most serious issue believe it or not would be the trying to throw the game.. with sports betting on the rise and a multi billion dollar a yr biz ..betters would not like to hear that and would question if games are being fixed.. sports gambling is a huge revenue generator and the real reason why sports returned so fast during covid.. you don’t want sports better feel like they getting haggled
If he has receipts of the 100k to throw games he’s done as owner . They will remove him. Sell the Team to Diddy
 
Brian Flores Sues N.F.L., Claiming Bias in Giants Coaching Search
The former head coach of the Miami Dolphins claimed in a class-action lawsuit filed Tuesday that the N.F.L. discriminated against him and other Black coaches in their hiring practices.


“My sincere hope is that by standing up against systemic racism in the N.F.L., others will join me to ensure that positive change is made for generations to come,” Brian Flores said.Credit...Alastair Grant/Associated Press
By Ken Belson and Jenny Vrentas
Feb. 1, 2022Updated 6:38 p.m. ET

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Brian Flores, who was fired as coach of the Miami Dolphins last month and was rejected for new jobs with other clubs, has sued the N.F.L. and its 32 teams alleging that they have discriminated against him and other Black coaches in their hiring practices.
His filing in federal court comes just days after the Giants, one of the teams he interviewed with for a position, named Brian Daboll, who is white, as their head coach.
Flores cited text messages he said were sent by his former boss, New England Patriots Coach Bill Belichick. In the messages, Belichick appears to congratulate Flores for winning the Giants’ job, which he had yet to interview for at that point. Flores responded by asking if Belichick had intended the message for Daboll, who interviewed before Flores’s scheduled meeting.

The respondent answered: “I think they are naming Daboll. I’m sorry about that. BB”
A Giants spokesman, Pat Hanlon, said in a statement the team was “confident with the process that resulted in the hiring of Brian Daboll” and that “Flores was in the conversation to be our head coach until the eleventh hour.” A Patriots spokesman said he did not anticipate that the team would be issuing a response.


Flores and Belichick shook hands after a game in 2019 in Miami Gardens, Fla.Credit...Mark Brown/Getty Images
The N.F.L. said it is “deeply committed to ensuring equitable employment practices” and “we will defend against these claims, which are without merit.”
The screenshots of a conversation purportedly initiated by Belichick, the notoriously tight-lipped coach, and as well as other anecdotes that paint an unflattering portrait of Stephen Ross, the Dolphins’ owner, provide a rare insight into the league’s business in a class-action suit that contends there is widespread discrimination in the N.F.L.
Flores is the son of Honduran immigrants to the Brownsville neighborhood of Brooklyn. He led the Dolphins for three years, including two winning seasons, and in the suit said he was “humiliated in the process as the New York Giants subjected him to a sham interview in an attempt to appear to provide a Black candidate with a legitimate chance at obtaining the job.”
In a statement, Flores said that he understood that “I may be risking coaching the game that I love and that has done so much for my family and me. My sincere hope is that by standing up against systemic racism in the N.F.L., others will join me to ensure that positive change is made for generations to come.”


In his suit, Flores stated that there were more than 40 other coaches who could join the class action, though he did not name any of them. Still, the case faces high legal hurdles, most prominently because Flores needs to prove that race was specifically a factor in his being turned down for jobs, even as he continues to interview for open coaching positions.
“I view this lawsuit as next to impossible to succeed and I’m extremely surprised he would put his career in jeopardy,” said Brad Sohn, a lawyer who has represented numerous N.F.L. players.
The N.F.L. has acknowledged repeatedly that there are not enough coaches and team executives of color even as about 70 percent of players are Black. Nearly 20 years ago, the league introduced the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview a diverse list of candidates for coaching and general manager positions.

The league has expanded and strengthen those guidelines since the rule’s introduction as the number of Black coaches has failed to grow appreciably, and fallen in some years. Yet the league still has only a handful of nonwhite men in head coaching jobs. With Flores’s ouster, Mike Tomlin of the Pittsburgh Steelers is the lone Black head coach in the league, while Ron Rivera of the Washington Football Team is the N.F.L.’s only Hispanic head coach. The Jets’ Robert Saleh is believed to be the league’s first Muslim Arab American head coach.
Black coaches have long complained that they are often called for interviews simply so teams can comply with the Rooney Rule, and that they were not considered serious candidates. Flores named other Black coaches he said have been discriminated against, including the former Colts and Lions head coach Jim Caldwell; the former Cardinals head coach Steve Wilks; and the former Texans head coach David Culley, who was fired last month after one season.
In his filing, Flores asserts that his experiences interviewing with league executives shows their callous approach to abiding by the Rooney Rule.


In texts exchanged on Jan. 24, three days before Flores was set to meet Giants executives, Belichick wrote: “I hear from Buffalo & NYG that you are their guy.”
Apparently aware that Daboll, who coached with the Bills this season, was also interviewing for the Giants’ opening, Flores asked Belichick whether he was referring to Daboll or him.
Belichick then apologized. “I double checked and misread the text.”
One of Flores’s lawyers, Douglas Wigdor, said that Flores reached out to their firm the same day he received the texts from Belichick. Wigdor’s employment litigation firm has represented numerous women who accused the film producer Harvey Weinstein of sexual misconduct, as well as former Fox News employees in harassment and discrimination cases. The complaint was filed as a putative class action, requiring certification from the court to proceed. Wigdor said his firm was currently investigating other claims from other coaches who could be part of the potential class.
Flores is still a candidate in the open head coach searches for the Houston Texans and New Orleans Saints. Wigdor said they wanted to move forward regardless of the outcome of those interviews. “We weren’t going to wait and be coy and see if he got a job,” he said.
Flores spent 15 years as an assistant under Belichick before getting his first head coaching job, but was interviewed as a candidate for other openings before being hired in 2019 by the Dolphins, where he had a 24-25 record in three seasons.


Giants General Manager Joe Schoen posed with Brian Daboll, the team’s new head coach, on Monday.Credit...John Minchillo/Associated Press
Before being hired by the Dolphins, Flores said he sat for what he called a “sham” interview with executives from the Denver Broncos. In that meeting, Flores said that John Elway, then the team’s general manager, and Joe Ellis, the team’s president, and others showed up an hour late.


“It was clear from the substance of the interview that Mr. Flores was interviewed only because of the Rooney Rule, and that the Broncos never had any intention to consider him as a legitimate candidate for the job,” the lawsuit states.
Not long after, the Broncos hired Vic Fangio, who is white, as their new head coach.
He was fired on Jan. 9 after three seasons in Denver.

The Broncos said in a statement that Flores’s claims were “blatantly false” and described their hiring process as “thorough and fair.” They added that the team planned to “vigorously defend” against his suit, citing detailed notes and records from his interview.
In the filing, Flores also singled out Ross, the Dolphins owner who hired him in 2019, claiming that Ross pressured him to “tank” the season, or lose all its games so the team would be in a better position to obtain the first pick in the upcoming draft.
Flores claimed that Ross said he would pay him $100,000 for each game the team lost in 2019, his first year with the Dolphins. Flores refused and when the Dolphins started winning games, Flores said he was told by the team’s general manager, Chris Grier, that Ross was “mad” that the team’s victories were hurting the team’s position in the draft position.
The Dolphins finished the season 5-11 and had the fifth overall draft pick, which they used to take quarterback Tua Tagovailoa. The Dolphins had two winning seasons after drafting Tagovailoa.
In a statement, the Dolphins said they “vehemently deny any allegations of racial discrimination” and that “the implication that we acted in a manner inconsistent with the integrity of the game is incorrect."


The lawsuit goes on to state that at the end of the 2019 season, Ross pressured Flores to recruit a well known quarterback in violation of the N.F.L.’s tampering rules and that Flores repeatedly refused to comply. But in the winter of 2020, Ross invited Flores onto a yacht for lunch, then told Flores that the prominent quarterback was also arriving at the marina.
Flores said he immediately left the yacht and afterward was “treated with disdain and held out as someone who was noncompliant and difficult to work with.”

 
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This is the type of thing black coaches should have done for a while. Sue them and hit these crackas in their wallets, where it counts.
Everyone knows these "Rooney Rule" interviews are a sham. I wanna see all the dirt come out.
Cosign!!! Additionally, this is exactly what I've been talking about, relative to black coaches seeking out HBCU's!!! You want to really make a dent in the NFL, disrupt their farm system at the collegiate level!!! It would be great for BF to take his passion, talents, and star power to an HBCU, yes I know he'd suffer a dramatic pay cut but that would only be temporary.
 
We need moments like this now. NFL brothers really dropped the ball with Kaepernick.


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bro you be the the seer...

but respect mine too.

Yeah he mad cause he had high hopes of being on the team but the reality the team had their eye on someone else..he’s calling it a sham but the truth is if a team wants someone you can’t say im mad at you for giving me an interview where you have no intentions of hiring me..the rule is they have to let others interview..if that rule dosent exist they probably not even calling him.. the rule that exist is good and bad..it’s good cause it gives black coaches the opportunity to get interviews but it’s bad cause some coaches will go to interviews that’s really just a waste of time cause the team already got someone else in mind
 
NFL owners are for the most part a bunch of rich bigoted entitled Neanderthals who couldn't care less about the racial disparity among coaches. This will not change until players, 70% of whom are black, step up and refuse to play until this blatant discrimination is sincerely addressed and not just given lip service.

Unfortunately that won't happen because way too many of them are selfish and not willing to step up for fear of losing their healthy paychecks. I know this to be true because if they wouldn't kneel with Kaepernick in support of a just cause they won't do so now. :mad:
 
You’re on grade A hubba rocks if you think this is anything like the Kaep situation. This is far more serious and dangerous for the league. This is about to expose what we already know and embarrass the league
No it won't lmao...this league has always been racist and will remain so. There is no embarrassing the league and nothing tangible will be done..it's like when you guys vote for Biden thinking it will fundamentally change what America is...racist as fuck
 
So just turned on sports radio in my car and they said Flores is one of three finalist for the Texans job.

He's gonna get the job.

They putting in that call right now to save face and lessen damages and penalties for the bullshit that just happened.
Yeah I thought they were going to hire him to try to entice Watson to stay after his issues clear up.
 
NFL owners are for the most part a bunch of rich bigoted entitled Neanderthals who couldn't care less about the racial disparity among coaches. This will not change until players, 70% of whom are black, step up and refuse to play until this blatant discrimination is sincerely addressed and not just given lip service.

Unfortunately that won't happen because way too many of them are selfish and not willing to step up for fear of losing their healthy paychecks. I know this to be true because if they wouldn't kneel with Kaepernick in support of a just cause they won't do so now. :mad:
You're hoping the fruit of the coon tree grows militant?
 
ronmch20 said:
NFL owners are for the most part a bunch of rich bigoted entitled Neanderthals who couldn't care less about the racial disparity among coaches. This will not change until players, 70% of whom are black, step up and refuse to play until this blatant discrimination is sincerely addressed and not just given lip service.

Unfortunately that won't happen because way too many of them are selfish and not willing to step up for fear of losing their healthy paychecks. I know this to be true because if they wouldn't kneel with Kaepernick in support of a just cause they won't do so now. :mad:

You're hoping the fruit of the coon tree grows militant?

Does that sound like I'm hopeful?
 
So just turned on sports radio in my car and they said Flores is one of three finalist for the Texans job.

He's gonna get the job.

They putting in that call right now to save face and lessen damages and penalties for the bullshit that just happened.
He ain't getting the Texans job, my man.
That "interview" was just another sham interview that he's complaining of in the lawsuit.
If you were listening to 610 that station is just basically part of the Texans PR department.
 
Is hate too strong a word for this always grinnin', buck eyed house nigga? No? Okay I hate this always grinnin' buck eyed house nigga. :angry:

It’s sad because Tim is actually a very smart dude, but for whatever reason choose the cooning lifestyle. Hearing though this maybe his last term which should be interesting.
 
It’s sad because Tim is actually a very smart dude, but for whatever reason choose the cooning lifestyle. Hearing though this maybe his last term which should be interesting.

I wouldn't care if he's a fuckin' genius. He's worse than a coon, he's a Judas. As for him not being re-elected get real. White folks love his coon ass and he'll win in a walk. :mad:
 
I wouldn't care if he's a fuckin' genius. He's worse than a coon, he's a Judas. As for him not being re-elected get real. White folks love his coon ass and he'll win in a walk. :mad:
No doubt his constituents love him but I don’t think he wants to do politics anymore atleast from what my folks in SC have told me.
 
He ain't getting the Texans job, my man.
That "interview" was just another sham interview that he's complaining of in the lawsuit.
If you were listening to 610 that station is just basically part of the Texans PR department.
Oh I know it is fam... that shit just background noise... but for whatever reason it was on louder than normal and that's what they were talking about...

From what they say it's McCown's job to lose. I just feel like the NFL gonna pull the fuckery and pressure the Texans behind the scenes to hire Flores just to be like SEE LOOK WE DO HIRE NEGRO COACHES!!!
 
No doubt his constituents love him but I don’t think he wants to do politics anymore atleast from what my folks in SC have told me.

You really think he would be cooning as much as he is if he was planning on retiring from the Senate? I think the only reason he might leave would be to get big bucks from some right wing think tank as a reward for his years of selling out black people. And not all his constituents love him, just he white ones. :rolleyes:
 
Oh I know it is fam... that shit just background noise... but for whatever reason it was on louder than normal and that's what they were talking about...

From what they say it's McCown's job to lose. I just feel like the NFL gonna pull the fuckery and pressure the Texans behind the scenes to hire Flores just to be like SEE LOOK WE DO HIRE NEGRO COACHES!!!
Cal McNair is probably the dumbest owner in the league and doesn't know how to read a room. They're going to hire McCown (who has no business being a head coach) regardless of any pressure from the league.
 
If he has receipts of the 100k to throw games he’s done as owner . They will remove him. Sell the Team to Diddy

Ive said until the NFL allows a negro owner in.... Its still the same ole song.

BTW they sell this team to Diddy, Dre, Oprah, etc the teams revenue is DOUBLE any other team. Everybody on this board gonna be buying jerseys, the theme song by Future, the branding.

I wont hold my breath, I havent watched a full game before Kap, I watch if its on and I have an interest in a player or the story line.
 
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